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Yes, people... the NEXUS 4!
This is the first time since Qtek 2020 was released that i feel that i no longer need to use a custom rom to fully appreciate a smartphone operating system.
The nexus 4 and Android 4.2.1 is a perfect match:
- everything is speedy
- the functionality is logical
- there is finally encryption included in the operating system from the get-go.
- Updates are instant!
- No apparent bugs with radio and hardware!
I'm in love with this thingy! :victory:
How do you feel about the Nexus 4 and it's operating system, will you put in a custom ROM?
Custom kernel, yes. Custom ROM, not yet.
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already running a custom ROM, you created the thread in the wrong section bro
Not really
Do I need it? no, it does everything I need it to do perfectly. Haven't even rooted yet, but I imagine I'll break down soon and start playing.
A custom kernel may help battery life.
munchy_cool said:
already running a custom ROM, you created the thread in the wrong section bro
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Ah.. should have been in the Q/A?
Felt like general was more... general.. while Q/A is like it says.. Questions and Answers.
There's no answers here, just a question.
Yes, I like the extra features of custom roms, easy as that.
Thats why its a Nexus, freedom of choice.
its a must, I haven't rooted yet to check any issues before I rely on it, you need custom roms due to the display and dpi, some of the text is too big in apps and don't provide an option so its not using the space effectively, talking about paranoid android rom
Custom kernel is necessary, the stock kernel on this phone sucks.
Custom ROM, not so much but it's nice to have all the extra features.
Transmission sent from my badass Nexus 4.
Kernel, for the moment.
the stock experience is too plain. not enough options. even worse for those coming off of a samsung device. people can talk about the stock experience all they want... but its better on the custom rom side.
As I said in the other thread I tried all the custom ROMs and none were as good as stock. No issues with the stock kernel either. The ease of trying different ROMs and the option to do what we want is awesome though.
phermey said:
the stock experience is too plain. not enough options. even worse for those coming off of a samsung device. people can talk about the stock experience all they want... but its better on the custom rom side.
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Agreed. Don't get me wrong, stock is great. I've been spoiled rotten by all the great devs on XDA. I can't live without options.
Stock kernel does blow, though.
I did miss T9 in the dialer, but it's not a deal breaker. It's also understandable that T9 isn't in AOSP.
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Custom launcher not enough then?
Damn, should have added that to the question.
What stock kernel would you recommend?
I have only used the stock kernels on all my phones unfortunately, so don't have any experience with that.
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Custom launcher not enough then?
Damn, should have added that to the question.
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nope. you need a custom rom to edit the navbar and put the menu button back in that so many of us are used to. you also need it to toggle the navbar if you so choose. and many more things.
fetto666 said:
What stock kernel would you recommend?
I have only used the stock kernels on all my phones unfortunately, so don't have any experience with that.
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right now... franco is the best. its smooth, responsive, and is huge for the battery. but his r16 is having random reboot issues. he is fixing right now, once fixed you can add completely stable to the list of things. but i am on r15 and its great. best thing is get franco and do as i do... when there is an update to it... give it a bit and look at the last page of thread to see if its stable.
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nope. you need a custom rom to edit the navbar and put the menu button back in that so many of us are used to. you also need it to toggle the navbar if you so choose. and many more things.
right now... franco is the best. its smooth, responsive, and is huge for the battery. but his r16 is having random reboot issues. he is fixing right now, once fixed you can add completely stable to the list of things. but i am on r15 and its great. best thing is get franco and do as i do... when there is an update to it... give it a bit and look at the last page of thread to see if its stable.
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Thanks a lot for the answers!
Don't understand what you changed in the navbar, do you have link to such a mod?
Thanks, i'll check into the franco kernel, but does changing the kernel affect security??
fetto666 said:
Thanks a lot for the answers!
Don't understand what you changed in the navbar, do you have link to such a mod?
Thanks, i'll check into the franco kernel, but does changing the kernel affect security??
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it can. but i have never had any issues. unless you are in a position to worry about security... with your job, there is nothing to worry about.
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and if you are in that sort of position to worry about security... the last phone you need is a nexus.
So far, still on stock ROM. If it weren't for ad-blockers requiring it, I wouldn't even have rooted it at this point. I do use Nova Launcher instead of the stock launcher, though. The only reason I might do a custom ROM is because I don't like not having 1% battery in notifications.
I feel like I need to run a custom ROM since custom ROMs have much more tweaks and features that stock does not have. CyanogenMod for example.
Sent from my Nexus 4, powered by CyanogenMod via XDA Developers app.
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it can. but i have never had any issues. unless you are in a position to worry about security... with your job, there is nothing to worry about.
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and if you are in that sort of position to worry about security... the last phone you need is a nexus.
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Thanks for the pic, it sure is special.. looks great!
I do have to worry about security though, but why would you say the last phone needed is a nexus?
Should i go for an iPhone? Because the alternatives are not that great.
i am searching for a link for pie controls with the expanded desktop option.ive been googling and found nothing too useful.paranoid android has a nice one but i dont want the rom i just want a flashable zip for my stock set up.
You can get pie from the market. It is called LMT Launcher. As far as expanded desktop. I am not sure...
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If you can't find it in the market, search it here on XDA.
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I've tried pie from the market and didn't really like it and I have lmt but I can't figure out how to remove the navbar.I will try lmt again
I added this in /system/buildprop. qemu.hw.mainkeys=1
Did a reboot and navbar was gone.
podagee said:
I've tried pie from the market and didn't really like it and I have lmt but I can't figure out how to remove the navbar.I will try lmt again
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GMD gesture control (play store) can remove your navbar.
Also disables your wallpaper though.
Conclusion: Man up, and install a custom ROM.
Maybe because I don't like custom roms I like to keep it stock
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Maybe because I don't like custom roms I like to keep it stock
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If you like stock then you wouldn't like PIE controls. If you want custom stuff then you use a custom rom.
It really kills me when people say they want to stay stock but with customizations. These are nexus devices. All custom ROMs are just stock with built in options. Where do you think the source code comes from... *hint* it's stock source from Google.
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I love how people intrude with their sarcasm.....no sh%$ its built off source code its also built off a persons own customizations on how they want things right? I want my nexus to be the way I want it to be not the way everyone else is getting it.if you are a recognized developer you would know such things,correct?you do what you want with your tab and I do what I want with mine.any questions,please pursue me at 807 kolani drive wailuku,hi 96793
I love how people post their address on an open forum saying "come fight me bro! #swag #YOLO #blahblahblahnoonereallycares."
You were given options. Take them or leave them. But for the love of the flying spaghetti monster in the sky, don't whine, complain or try to act like an Internet bada$$ when you get butt hurt from someone's response. It is childish and moronic. Either take the advice you ask for or not. But you can gtfo and do it yourself if you got a problem with people's responses.
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Ugh... this is getting ugly.
podagee... you can't have it both ways... either pure stock or custom... take your pick.
My own ROM of choice has PIE/Expanded desktop options, but is reasonably close to stock in all other regards.
If you want these features, then custom is the way to go.
Rgrds,
Ged.
There is absolutely no need to install a custom rom to enjoy pie and expanded desktop.
-> First install the most recent version of LMT Launcher http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330150 . Set it up any way you like and set it to autostart on boot. (Tip: make sure there is a menu button in your pie.)
-> Second edit your build prop. You can use a build prop editor, or droid edit, or es file explorer or any other text editor that can handle root files. You can find your build prop in /system/build.prop . At the end of the file insert the line qemu.hw.mainkeys=1 .
-> Reboot and it's done. This is how I used pie when I was on stock.
Now I switched to cyanogenmod, which has build in expanded desktop, so editing the build prop isn't necessary anymore. I still prefere LMT over cyanogenmod's pie though.
Nobody said anything about fighting.and BTW I asked about pie controls not Roms get it?a simple question and you guys give a stupid answer **** it close this thread,cause what I wanted was help and instead some know it all asshole jumps in with idiotic remarks.
Gedblake and westervoort thanks.simple like that is how its supposed to be not nitpick at bs.I however managed to add pie controls almost exactly like paranoid android,almost.it turned out really nice so it is possible.I don't like custom cause I've been running into issues with battery and freezes. So I am just going to remain stock,but,remember it is possible to do whatever you want,even if stock.thanks guys.
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Gedblake and westervoort thanks.simple like that is how its supposed to be not nitpick at bs.I however managed to add pie controls almost exactly like paranoid android,almost.it turned out really nice so it is possible.I don't like custom cause I've been running into issues with battery and freezes. So I am just going to remain stock,but,remember it is possible to do whatever you want,even if stock.thanks guys.
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Hi, podagee...
Yeah... sorry for for the slightly irascible post. Guess it's all about relative perspective's - from my point of view, the easiest way of accomplishing your desired goal was to flash a ROM... but Westervoort knew of a way that obviated that need, which I didn't know about.
As I have said elsewhere, 'not everybody can know everything'.
Anyway, glad you found a solution (whatever that might be) that you're happy with.
Good luck...
Rgrds,
Ged.
If everyone who started posted remarks before reading everything,please be sure to read all posts before adding in your 2 pennies.as I've stated in the beginning of this thread I've already found a way for pie and a way to hide the navbar.thanks
there isnt much development being done for this device lately. ive only ever built a few roms for myself, but if there is enough demand and i can get some features that people want, i could get in the game. i might need a little help and it might be a little slow for releases though, as im still in school. anyone interested?
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there isnt much development being done for this device lately. ive only ever built a few roms for myself, but if there is enough demand and i can get some features that people want, i could get in the game. i might need a little help and it might be a little slow for releases though, as im still in school. anyone interested?
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Count me in, I'm interested.
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any features that you are looking for? right now im thinking i could do a big aroma installer thing with all of the stock apps and whatnot, but idk what else
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any features that you are looking for? right now im thinking i could do a big aroma installer thing with all of the stock apps and whatnot, but idk what else
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I don't have any requests, yet. I usually modify roms, to my liking anyway, but I'm definitely interested in your rom, and I'll help anyway I can.
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Im interested, too
What I would like to see are some features I know from cyanogenmod:
Close apps with long press back key
Customizable pull down menu
Screenshots via on/off menu
Maybe a better music player
I have lots of ideas
Very interested! How about a dark theme? All black backgrounds instead of the ugly touchwiz white???????????
Its realy not that easy to change from wihte to black BG. Also tekst switch needed.and the fun part comes now...basicly for best result needed for ALL systemapps.
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As i said guys, im new to this, but il, try my best. It might be a while before i get all of your features in, but it will happene eventually. Ill start it soon :fingers-crossed:
SM-P601 If you interested
i only have a p600, sorry
A good minimal rom debloated and with just a few tweaks sounds perfect!
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What about active display, could it be implemented "natively" like some aosp roms (Omni's is superb) ?
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A fully debloated kk-Rom was great with a good tweaked Kernel with OC/UV-features. Than the ability to chance the screen-resolution to fullHD for better gaming-performance like in SDBAGS Cromi-X Rom for Asus tf701t. ES File-Explorer, Xposed Framework as system apps. Than the old webkit-android-browser(aosp) with bookmark-sync, like in Scroslers Clean-Rom.
And I think there is a lot more to make KK better.
sorry guys, project is cancelled. hanspampel made a 4.4 kat rom which is almost exactly what i would have done. i highly recommend checking it out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2725121
i might take up the cause again if i have time, but im not sure when that will be
Hi,
I am new here and I have some doubts on wether to root my 3 months old LG G2 d802. Can someone orient me what are the pros and cons, how to root and what are the things that I can do once rooted?
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It depends on what are you trying to achieve with rooting.
Cons:
- you lose warranty
- if you don't know what you're doing with a rooted phone, you can cause more damage than good
- if you install malware and accidentaly grant it superuser (administrative) privileges, you can lose sensitive data or someone can mess up your phone
Pros:
- you can block ads on a system level
- you can remove unnecessary apps (bloatware, preinstalled carrier apps etc)
- you can visually modify your phone or add useful modules with Xposed framework
- you can save battery by hibernating apps you do not need to have in the background with Greenify
- you can flash a custom recovery which will allow you to make nandroid images (exact snapshots of your system which you can restore in case of problems)
- you can backup and restore apps and their data with Titanium Backup
- you can install custom kernels which allow overclock to make your phone's CPU even faster, or install custom ROMs which bring new looks and stuff (Cloudyfa's ROMs look nice) or revert to a pure Android experience with AOSP ROMs (like CyanogenMod)
Bottomline: if you don't need any of these things, you don't need to root your phone.
fernievidal said:
Hi,
I am new here and I have some doubts on wether to root my 3 months old LG G2 d802. Can someone orient me what are the pros and cons, how to root and what are the things that I can do once rooted?
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i always root my new android devices, too many pros in rooting
Im curious about this ROM thingy I thought I'd try to root for customization. But I'm still worried about the warranty. Anyway, I'll think about it. It does have a lot of pros but the cons can't be desregarded. Thanks man.
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fernievidal said:
Im curious about this ROM thingy I thought I'd try to root for customization. But I'm still worried about the warranty. Anyway, I'll think about it. It does have a lot of pros but the cons can't be desregarded. Thanks man.
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You can always go back to stock, remove root, remove custom recovery and re-lock boatloader!
I used to root all my phones but with these new phones I'm finding I don't need too.
The most I need is a God set of replacement launchers and those are everywhere.
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fernievidal said:
Im curious about this ROM thingy I thought I'd try to root for customization. But I'm still worried about the warranty. Anyway, I'll think about it. It does have a lot of pros but the cons can't be desregarded. Thanks man.
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It isn't worth it. There are no quality ROMs for this phone that work as well as the stock ROM. They make it look different and maybe that is cool to show off to your friends, but at the end of the day not a single ROM works as well as stock.
This phone is amazing, but was an absolute failure for the ROM market. Most of them are cobbled together, buggy, lacking features and not really any faster or better.
A ROM should make the phone better, and on many phones they can and do. But on this phone, none of them make it better.
Stick with stock, IMHO, especially if you are worried about your warranty.
If you want to customize how the phone looks and feels, there are a dozen really nice aftermarket launchers that you can install and completely transform how it looks and feels, without jacking anything up or risking a warranty issue...
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kolembo said:
I used to root all my phones but with these new phones I'm finding I don't need too.
The most I need is a God set of replacement launchers and those are everywhere.
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Exactly. You can disable 90% of the bloat without root, right from the App Manager, and not have to worry about it hosing a future OTA.
SquireSCA said:
It isn't worth it. There are no quality ROMs for this phone that work as well as the stock ROM. They make it look different and maybe that is cool to show off to your friends, but at the end of the day not a single ROM works as well as stock.
This phone is amazing, but was an absolute failure for the ROM market. Most of them are cobbled together, buggy, lacking features and not really any faster or better.
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Must be a d802 issue d800 is fine..
khaytsus said:
Must be a d802 issue d800 is fine..
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I don't have that, I am on VZW.
I have tried about every ROM out there. I think that CM dropped the phone, there is no dev work really going on there. They all are buggy, none of them truly work as well as stock, etc...
I like ROMs when they actually make something better. Doing ROMs just for the sake of using a ROM, to me seems silly if they take away features, cause the phone to hang or reboot, don't give a performance improvement, cause volume or BT issues, etc...
When you can debloat a stock unrooted phone in less than 2 minutes, and install a launcher that radically changes how the phone looks and feels and lets you tailor it to your idea of how it should look, while keeping your warranty and not having to worry about not getting OTA's, it just makes sense to keep it stock...
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I don't have that, I am on VZW.
I have tried about every ROM out there. I think that CM dropped the phone, there is no dev work really going on there. They all are buggy, none of them truly work as well as stock, etc...
I like ROMs when they actually make something better. Doing ROMs just for the sake of using a ROM, to me seems silly if they take away features, cause the phone to hang or reboot, don't give a performance improvement, cause volume or BT issues, etc...
When you can debloat a stock unrooted phone in less than 2 minutes, and install a launcher that radically changes how the phone looks and feels and lets you tailor it to your idea of how it should look, while keeping your warranty and not having to worry about not getting OTA's, it just makes sense to keep it stock...
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I just bought a Verizon G2 on Swappa, so I did the towelroot thing (can't post links yet but I followed a guide posted on wonderhowto . com on how to root with towelroot).
I am basically fine with stock, just wanted to be able to mod it a little bit. For example, I've already changed the softkeys to my liking.
What I don't understand is the recovery/backup apps that I need to run, and in what order. For example, do I need to run AutoRec and/or TWRP if I am NOT going to install any custom roms? I'm not sure I completely understand this step of the process, or the order.
Basically, I'd like to install some mods, the camera mod, sound mods, ect, and would like a way to "restore" my phone (go back to its current state). Warranty is not an issue for me since I bought the phone used.
fernievidal said:
Hi,
I am new here and I have some doubts on wether to root my 3 months old LG G2 d802. Can someone orient me what are the pros and cons, how to root and what are the things that I can do once rooted?
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There are tons of things that you can do with a rooted phone.
When i first got my G2 5 months ago the first thing i did was root.
Here is a list of what i have now.
Rooted with TowelRoot (One click rooting APP)
Installed custom recovery(TWRP) with AutoRec
Stock Rom (AOSP Theme) found HERE
ROOT NEEDED:
Xposed Framework
G2 Xposed mods:
transparent nav bar and notif panel (no shadows)
4th nav bar icon (recent apps)
removed carrier lable on lock screen
removed some notification icons to clean t up
long press menu button to lock phone
bleed immersive mode
long press volume up button for flashlight (while locked)
OTHER Xposed Mods
Instagram downloader(ads download option to instagram app)
wifi password viewer(show password of saved wifi connections)
extended power menu(allows to reboot in recovery and other neet features)
google play music(will open play music to the specific tab you desire)
Other things
Native Hotspot Hack (free wifi tether)
Screen cast screen recorder
This is all i have for now because i am trying to keep it simple.
There are many other things i did not mention that can be done with a rooted phone
Not to mention all the awesome roms you can install.
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Im curious about this ROM thingy I thought I'd try to root for customization. But I'm still worried about the warranty. Anyway, I'll think about it. It does have a lot of pros but the cons can't be desregarded. Thanks man.
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You can always factory reset to show like never been rooted.
The title pretty much says it all. I'm on Sprint and I like this phone but I'm not going to get it if the bootloader is locked and/or it can't be rooted. Having ad blocking and Xposed on my phone are basic requirements for me to get one.
Would any kind soul please let me know?
I don't know, but if not anything with the bootloader would love a way to at least get a systemless root, does this sound like something that could even be possible?
It is locked as of now. Root may or may not come.
Get yourself Adguard and live happy. What do you want Xposed for?
I like root just to debloat.
I also like Titanium Backup as well
Yes. Adblocking and titbackup. Xposed would be nice though this phone needs less xposed modules for sure. I think. Lg got a lot of things right ootb.
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Get yourself Adguard and live happy. What do you want Xposed for?
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Is this a serious question? Have you used xposed be before? The YouTube ad blocking alone is worth it. Not to mention being able to tweak literally everything on the phone and basically have a custom ROM like experience without having to flash a new ROM over the stock one. Lets say i want to change the height of my navbar and make it pink instead of black. I can do all that with xposed. If you're asking why xposed is desirable you may as well be asking why customization is needed.
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Is this a serious question? Have you used xposed be before? The YouTube ad blocking alone is worth it. Not to mention being able to tweak literally everything on the phone and basically have a custom ROM like experience without having to flash a new ROM over the stock one. Lets say i want to change the height of my navbar and make it pink instead of black. I can do all that with xposed. If you're asking why xposed is desirable you may as well be asking why customization is needed.
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Yes...and I quickly tired of broken functionality and instability and lack if support from devs on all sides
Solution...use SkyTube or other non crappy YouTube app
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Yes...and I quickly tired of broken functionality and instability and lack if support from devs on all sides
Solution...use SkyTube or other non crappy YouTube app
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Everyone has their own preferences and ways they live their life. I made this thread to inquire about a specific property of the software (thanks for your input on that), but not any advice on whether or not I should use it. Your advice is unsolicited and unwanted. Thanks.
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It is locked as of now. Root may or may not come.
Get yourself Adguard and live happy. What do you want Xposed for?
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Skripka said:
Yes...and I quickly tired of broken functionality and instability and lack if support from devs on all sides
Solution...use SkyTube or other non crappy YouTube app
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I've never had stability issues with any xposed modules. My previous device was the LG G4 and I used xposed to tweak the crap out of it and it was awesome. There is a reason why xposed is so popular go look at the xposed threads. Just cause you don't feel its necessary doesn't mean it has no value to other users. This is XDA developer's for godsakes i dont think encouraging people to be content with a stock device should even be allowed on this site. But thats my humble opinion.