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Samsung Galaxy S III vs Apple iPhone 4S (Video comparison)

Always a difficult decision, choosing between the latest and greatest Android phone or the latest and greatest iPhone is a problem that every smartphone user faces at one point or another. Thankfully, the key to solving that problem isn't that far away when you know what to look for. Having both the Samsung Galaxy S III and Apple iPhone 4S here with us, we thought that we absolutely have to ...
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Always a difficult decision, choosing between the latest and greatest Android phone or the latest and greatest iPhone is a problem that every smartphone user faces at one point or another. Thankfully, the key to solving that problem isn't that far away when you know what to look for. Having both the Samsung Galaxy S III and Apple iPhone 4S here with us, we thought that we absolutely have to ...
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This should be fun because the phone arena dude is a massive iPhone fanboy...
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LOL THE FIRST THING ... "The iphone has the benefit of comfort"
Actually, even after using my 4.0" Atrix, the 3.5" devices seem way too cramped for my hand
this video is terrible. hes claiming the iPhone has the better photo quality and hes not showing any photos.

Oh god I couldn't even finish watching that. Somebody please knock some sense into this man, or hire the "wake up" team

Just sold my iPhone4s and waiting for SIII. IPhone is a nice "phone", nothing else. But for other things is too small. Before I have had GNex, SII, Sensation... 4.3 inches is really good size for my hands, but SIII isn't much bigger I think
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meeeh, to each his own. how the phone feels in one's hand is completely subjective to the individual.

I do agree with him that the body of the iPhone looks and feels like a luxury product. But for actual daily use, theres no getting around that the SIII is just better in every aspects other than SMS'ing or typing in phone numbers. Also the icon grid of the iphone is a pain in the a**. The ability to setup home screens is much more useful. And thats just the top of the software iceberg.
I have also come to love the light plastic phones by Samsung. It's hard to break and the warmer feel is just great.

The reviewer does come off as a sort of fanboi. His "final verdict" didn't seem to take into account any specifics of the S3 at all, only a rehash of the usual android vs iphone stereotype.
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Wond3r said:
LOL THE FIRST THING ... "The iphone has the benefit of comfort"
Actually, even after using my 4.0" Atrix, the 3.5" devices seem way too cramped for my hand
this video is terrible. hes claiming the iPhone has the better photo quality and hes not showing any photos.
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Check the website..... don't think its bias at all he makes some good points but at the end its obvious the gs3 is stronger in calls and multimedia, the only place the iPhone wins is design and camera stills not video.
So if he does love iPhone he isn't showing it in this review , let's not witch hunt.
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The iphone. A great product in its day. The iphone4 was a leading handset in its day. Sadly for the coolaid drinkers that day is long past. The iphone is surpassed in every meaningful way now. Unlike most here though I hope they up their game huge for iphone5 because the iphone is what made all of the many better handsets that can be had now happen. A **** hot iphone 5 means that everyone gets better. If they don't it means I get an iphone five. I love competition.

We are at a point were you can not make the phone any better in terms of screen resolution speed and battery life so I think phones after this will be pretty similar. I don't expect anything death shattering from the iPhone 5 . Maybe a bigger screen.
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We are at a point were you can not make the phone any better in terms of screen resolution speed and battery life so I think phones after this will be pretty similar.
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Er, while I don't claim to be an expert on Moore's law, I doubt you have good grounds for that claim either. Both screen technology and processor power have improved significantly each year, and indeed the iPhone still has to play catch-up in terms on specs. There is definitely room for improvement of the iPhone at the very least (and probably everything else as well).

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We are at a point were you can not make the phone any better in terms of screen resolution speed and battery life so I think phones after this will be pretty similar. I don't expect anything death shattering from the iPhone 5 . Maybe a bigger screen.
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I agree. The coming phone might do better in benchmarks, but in real life, that difference will be barely noticeable.
Just look at some of the Note vs. HOX on youtube. The difference is much less than the specs would suggest.
Edit: In battery life there is much to improve!
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Just look at some of the Note vs. HOX on youtube. The difference is much less than the specs would suggest.
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1) Last year not being much different from this year does not imply that development has been capped.
2) One cannot expect a notable difference anyway, since everything in the current ecosystem is designed not to take advantage of so many resources. As the resources grow, however, so will demand tend to grow with it. Eventually, for example, with enough cores, enough RAM, and an efficient enough battery, it will become feasible for the OS to simply leave all background tasks running, just like on our computer. That would be a notable change, but clearly it could not happen overnight.

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1) Last year not being much different from this year does not imply that development has been capped.
2) One cannot expect a notable difference anyway, since everything in the current ecosystem is designed not to take advantage of so many resources. As the resources grow, however, so will demand tend to grow with it. Eventually, for example, with enough cores, enough RAM, and an efficient enough battery, it will become feasible for the OS to simply leave all background tasks running, just like on our computer. That would be a notable change, but clearly it could not happen overnight.
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I was just talking about the next iPhone not about the general development of phones. Given how phones are used this year and probably next year, doubling up the hardware specs, will not result in a twice as good user experience.

When you shoot a video from an iPhone 4S its look like you have already zoom a little bit and apart from that its video quality is smooth, colours look so bright and vivid. On the other hand video quality of S3 we will came to know after it get launch.

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Without knowing what that comment was this post is meaningless.

You cant compare those two phones. You already know that s3 is better.
After all quadcore is much faster than dual.

[Q] Nexus 4 - Am I making a mistake?

I am an avid fan of the Samsung S series of phones. I've had a few and to date think the S3 is the best they've done so far (S4 notwithstanding). But, I love the Google Nexus series of phones and have owned one, the Samsung Galaxy Nexus. I purchased the Nexus 4 on Saturday from Google and I cannot wait to get it. I love the bareness of the Nexus line. I love Android in its stock form. Thing is, I'm going from one of the best selling phones to a midlevel device. Am I making a mistake doing this? What am I loosing? Currently, we do have LTE in our area but it's sucking the heck out of my battery on the S3 so I'm not concerned if the N4 has no LTE. Am I gaining anything from going to the N4? Is the camera good enough? What about the sound on it - it sucked moose butt on the SGN!
I'm hoping for some comments and opinions that will help me in evaluating this latest purchase and what to expect. Thanks guys:good:

Mid-level? You do realize a quad core chip and 2gb of ram make this a high-level device as for lte I personally don't use it and camera is better then the galaxy nexus but isn't the best obviously for the price speakers do fine as well
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Wait until the 15th this month, there is a revised Nexus 4 to be released that should support full LTE, 32 GB of storage and maybe other upgrades. For the current one i`am very happy with it, the camera is a bit less than in the S3, but the cpu and gpu are much better. The screen is fantastic, bright, crisp and a good vieuwing angles. For me it is an upgrade compared to the S3 or even the S4 (wich i`am gona skip for sure). The N4 has no bloatware and great development. And for a very good price.
BTW the N4 is not mid level

Crap...I shoulda waited. I forgot about the LTE version coming out! Oh wells...it's already paid for. Has LG stepped it up on the Nexus line? I've never been a fan of them but in my opinion, Google wouldn't brand their phone if it wasn't any good. As good as the S3 is, it feels slow opening stuff sometimes even with a fresh factory refresh. It's got some good internals so it makes no sense why it does this...this always bugged me. It wasn't a deal breaker as the camera on this phone is sick! Great picture quality on it.

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Crap...I shoulda waited. I forgot about the LTE version coming out! Oh wells...it's already paid for. Has LG stepped it up on the Nexus line? I've never been a fan of them but in my opinion, Google wouldn't brand their phone if it wasn't any good. As good as the S3 is, it feels slow opening stuff sometimes even with a fresh factory refresh. It's got some good internals so it makes no sense why it does this...this always bugged me. It wasn't a deal breaker as the camera on this phone is sick! Great picture quality on it.
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The internal storage of the Galaxy S4 is 16GB and 7GB is for the OS and lots and lots of gimmicks/bloatware/crap. 9GB available for the user We on the N4 have about 13GB left.

I don't think branding the N4 as a mid level device is correct or at least in my opinion. Perhaps it's the price tag that makes it "mid level" or whatever the reason is, the Nexus 4 is more of a high end device for cheap.
I bought a brand new GS3 from a friend a few weeks ago and I don't like it anymore. It was a good idea I didn't get it last year when it came out. I'm gonna sell it...
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Yeah, the N4 is a high-end phone for a mid-range price. Absolute bargain.
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Its odd the “mid range" stigma that's put on the N4 by average consumer, even here at xda. I've seen hundreds of post from various forums or sites in the comments with people calling it that and ironically they are Galaxy users who usually say things like this poster also did about the UI being sluggish while confidently calling the S a high end device lol. OP glad you got the N4, you'll be more than satisfied I believe, you'll read a bunch of complaints on here, but like absolutely any other phone available if you read enough threads on here people will have funky devices or just nit picky problems. UI is awesome, storage is pretty sufficient, OS barely uses any space, I have probably 1000 pics, 30 albums and maybe 50 apps including CSR Racing which is large and have about 4.5gigs free. Lacking LTE maybe an issue for some, but honestly I think it becomes a feature option issue for most, the inability to claim LTE rights amongst other phone users lol, I'm on T-Mobile and live in Philadelphia, my data is always fast, in most real world scenarios as fast as my boys DNA, and as fast as my brother in laws S3 on AT&T. Camera is another issue for some, not for others, look on the pic from n4 thread, when you work at it, the phone is capable of taking some amazing shots, on the fly pull your phone out and snap can be hit or miss but why some people expect or even need their phone to be art gallery worthy pics I don't know lol. Speaker, is well a speaker, I can hear when I need to, but all this talk of the HTC having "boom" sound and dual speakers for what? If I wanna host a mini rave with my phone? Lol I just don't see the real world use for it. Summing it up, everyone that has touched my N4 since I got it, users of iPhone, S phones and even my cousin who still won't let BlackBerry die has loved this phone after spending as little as 10 minutes with it. Feels great in the hand, UI is always snappy, screen is crisp.
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Great replies everyone...thank you. I've read a lot of reviews and such and most of them calls the N4 a midrange phone. In my opinion, they do it based on the price and public (uninformed) preception. I used the same phrase here based on these although loving stock android like I do, I'd be calling it high end. The Camera for me is a nice addition because working as a tech for UPS, I travel around some and get to see the sights along the way. In doing so, it's nice to have a quality camera onhand to take some pictures of where I've been. I don't always take a "camera" as I travel light so having a quality one with me is very handy, which is why I ask what the quality is on the N4. I've read a lot on XDA and seen some pics and it is hit and miss from what I see but a definate upgrage from the SGN.
I've read a lot about the back breaking/cracking. I'm thinking it's a good idea to get a sheild for the back at least. I've never been a fan of putting one on the front as I like the smooth feeling while sliding/swyping.

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Great replies everyone...thank you. I've read a lot of reviews and such and most of them calls the N4 a midrange phone. In my opinion, they do it based on the price and public (uninformed) preception. I used the same phrase here based on these although loving stock android like I do, I'd be calling it high end. The Camera for me is a nice addition because working as a tech for UPS, I travel around some and get to see the sights along the way. In doing so, it's nice to have a quality camera onhand to take some pictures of where I've been. I don't always take a "camera" as I travel light so having a quality one with me is very handy, which is why I ask what the quality is on the N4. I've read a lot on XDA and seen some pics and it is hit and miss from what I see but a definate upgrage from the SGN.
I've read a lot about the back breaking/cracking. I'm thinking it's a good idea to get a sheild for the back at least. I've never been a fan of putting one on the front as I like the smooth feeling while sliding/swyping.
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I'd agree with putting on a back glass protector. If anything the Nexus is a more high-end phone than the S3 tbh, the S4 Pro trumps the Exynos; 2GB RAM > 1, the screen is at a higher resolution and the build feels more premium than the S3. The only reason it's sometimes called a mid range phone is because of the price. There also seems to be a lot of hate for it on the internet though, which is odd because everyone I know who has one likes it. I think that it's only because loads of people wanted one but had huge delays when ordering it.

A case will provide more protection than a back protector.
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Slim but tough is what I'd want in a case. Know which is best?

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A case will provide more protection than a back protector.
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True, but I want the back exposed for a little bit.

can6rxw said:
True, but I want the back exposed for a little bit.
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Then take the Rearth Ringke Fusion Case. Have it myself and i think its great. Not bulky, good grip and protection and clear back.

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Then take the Rearth Ringke Fusion Case. Have it myself and i think its great. Not bulky, good grip and protection and clear back.
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I have that case. As a matter of fact I have so many cases for this phone that I only use my diztronic case. Lol.

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I have that case. As a matter of fact I have so many cases for this phone that I only use my diztronic case. Lol.
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There`s not much choice in cases for the N4 in the Netherlands and ordered it in the UK. Do you have the XDA case also?

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There`s not much choice in cases for the N4 in the Netherlands and ordered it in the UK. Do you have the XDA case also?
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I don't have the XDA case. I don't like the color and design.
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If you want the rearth ringke fusion case I can give it to you for free if you live in the U.S. I don't need it. It's just sitting in my desk drawer not being used.
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Just because a gs3/4 is over $500 doesn't make it a high end device, calling the nexus 4 a mid range device is ignorance, and yes the nexus 4 beats both
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Just because a gs3/4 is over $500 doesn't make it a high end device, calling the nexus 4 a mid range device is ignorance, and yes the nexus 4 beats both
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The S4 is 850-900 USD in the Netherlands off contract

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Just because a gs3/4 is over $500 doesn't make it a high end device, calling the nexus 4 a mid range device is ignorance, and yes the nexus 4 beats both
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Well either way the S3/S4 are high-end devices. I doubt the Nexus 4 beats the both devices. The S4 has a newer CPU and it's software features are awesome in my opinion.
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To the People attacking the note 5 buyers cos of the Z5 premium

Since the z5 premium was announced, I've seen a lot of hate on the note 5 owners.
Seems the general consensus that people only but the Samsung flagships, in particular the note phones because they're popular. I've seen vast comments along the lines of, bet note 5 owners regret their purchase now.
They're forgetting the note phones use great amoled screens and have the spen.
As far as I'm aware the note series is the only android phone to nativaly muliscreen also
Anybody care to explain why all the note 5 hate?

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There are 2 possible explanations for this thread:
1- You're looking for trouble
2- You're immature enough to even think about creating such pointless, wasted space on XDA servers.
Please work on your social skills. In case you didn't know, everybody is entitled to their opinion, the way you vacate that opinion shows the degree of sophistication you have. Responding to those that have no sophistication puts you right at their level.

Why this sh!tty thread?
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polish_pat said:
There are 2 possible explanations for this thread:
1- You're looking for trouble
2- You're immature enough to even think about creating such pointless, wasted space on XDA servers.
Please work on your social skills. In case you didn't know, everybody is entitled to their opinion, the way you vacate that opinion shows the degree of sophistication you have. Responding to those that have no sophistication puts you right at their level.
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Yes I get that they're entitled, I'm just trying to figure out of all the phones why the Samsung phones get the most negative comments on. I've owned Sony Z phones and own an iPhone 6. They're all nice phones, in particular I like the amoled screen, spen, and Samsung exclusive features.
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In before the lock
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Oh why the lock?

GreeleyXda said:
No trouble, just voicing my opinion after seeing all the comments on z5 videos and post that say, "bet the note 5 owners regret their purchase"
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This is not the way to voice your opinion. This is just fishing for hostile responses, which you're already getting

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This is not the way to voice your opinion. This is just fishing for hostile responses, which you're already getting
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My bad, I've attempted to re-write it but it's probably to late.
Anyways what's your opinion on why Samsung gets picked on the most?
The z5 has other OEMs to compete with like HTC and Apple (I believe those are the 2 compared most to sony's build quality)

GreeleyXda said:
My bad, I've attempted to re-write it but it's probably to late.
Anyways what's your opinion on why Samsung gets picked on the most?
The z5 has other OEMs to compete with like HTC and Apple (I believe those are the 2 compared most to sony's build quality)
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The bigger you are, the easier it is to pick on you. I am happy with my choices, but out of all OEMs, i think Samsung offers consistently good products even if they each have their flaws. No matter what they do, they cannot make everybody happy, thankfully on the Android ecosystem, there will never be a lack of choice. To each their own

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The bigger you are, the easier it is to pick on you. I am happy with my choices, but out of all OEMs, i think Samsung offers consistently good products even if they each have their flaws. No matter what they do, they cannot make everybody happy, thankfully on the Android ecosystem, there will never be a lack of choice. To each their own
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True guess they are one of the bigger companies. Im super happy with the new build quality of the note 5/s6.
Was shocked about how many people were displeased with the no sd card, coming from an s6 edge. I also own a iPhone 6 so memory card there either. I was pretty happy with just big internal storage. No idea why they cut the note off at 64gb.
what's your opinion on 4k phones?
With the Z phones battery life, I'm not shocked Sony is the first phone company going at it. Plus they've had 4k tvs out for a bit now.
Personally I think why one might not notice the need/difference for 4k, they'll grow into it like they did 1440p phones. I can't imagine people streaming 4k video or storing much of it on there phone tho. Although I've read the z5 can handle up to 200gb sd cards (pretty pricey probably)
To anybody reading would you want 4k on the next note?
I think Samsung should handle the ram fiasco first and then maybe try to incorporate sd cards again since it seems like a lot of people weren't happy with the loss of extendable memory

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As far as I'm aware the note series is the only android phone to nativaly muliscreen also
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You are very misinformed.
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You are very misinformed.
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I'd change misinformed to Unaware but sure lol
Which phones? I'd love to check them out to see how it compares to Samsung's multiwindow.
My dream phone can have 4 windows open nativaly like the note pro, since Verizon is anti-root.

GreeleyXda said:
I'd change misinformed to Unaware but sure lol
Which phones? I'd love to check them out to see how it compares to Samsung's multiwindow.
My dream phone can have 4 windows open nativaly like the note pro, since Verizon is anti-root.
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LG has it too, but it's not as good as what Samsung has. Samsung's Multi-Window is better than the competition. There's Multi Window in the Android M Developer Preview on the Nexus 5/6, but it's experimental at the moment... Meaning it's not ready yet. It probably won't be on the official Android Marshmallow release though.

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what's your opinion on 4k phones?
With the Z phones battery life, I'm not shocked Sony is the first phone company going at it. Plus they've had 4k tvs out for a bit now.
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Samsung is the only company that can afford a slow but steady "Apple like" evolution of their phones. Other OEMs have to resort to making phones that have special features that stand out in order to attract client. All OEMs except for Samsung are currently losing money so they have to come up with ways to say "our phone was the first that did X, or had X" Sometimes it works out in their favor, sometimes not. A bit like the ultra-pixel 4MP camera on HTC One. They were marketing that features as if it were unique to their flagship and most importantly, a camera game changer. Turned out, it was good for shooting nice low res pictures in low light, but it was overall one of the worst camera ever at the time.
As for the 4K screen, sure, it's nice, but battery technology isn't here to justify a 4K screen without a considerable drop in battery life and overall performance. Samsung has been working on a super thin flexible high capacity battery that will revolutionize battery life on smartphones, but until then, these features will just be a way to impress others...i'm not even sure you'll see that much of a difference between our screens and a 4K screen.

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Since the z5 premium was announced, I've seen a lot of hate on the note 5 owners.
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Sony's mobile division is losing $1M a day. The pricing on the Z5P makes the Note 5 look like a bargain. Can you imagine the impact a 4K screen will have on battery life; especially when at 8+" away from the screen you won't be able to tell the difference from QHD? I wish Sony well but if I were to bet I'd say their mobile division will be sold within a year. Their entire business (with the exception of PS) is in trouble and they can't carry a $365M annual loss forever. Three new high priced phones aimed at a shrinking Western market niche (high end smartphones) isn't going to get them anywhere. Just like the gorgeous M7 that set a design standard when it was released couldn't help HTC who's on their death bed. If I were to look at another Android brand it would be LG. They, like Samsung, have a deep pocketed conglomerate parent and they actually make money in mobile. It was $1 per phone last quarter but it's better than what everyone else (but Samsung) are experiencing.

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Sony's mobile division is losing $1M a day. The pricing on the Z5P makes the Note 5 look like a bargain. Can you imagine the impact a 4K screen will have on battery life; especially when at 8+" away from the screen you won't be able to tell the difference from QHD? I wish Sony well but if I were to bet I'd say their mobile division will be sold within a year. Their entire business (with the exception of PS) is in trouble and they can't carry a $365M annual loss forever. Three new high priced phones aimed at a shrinking Western market niche (high end smartphones) isn't going to get them anywhere. Just like the gorgeous M7 that set a design standard when it was released couldn't help HTC who's on their death bed. If I were to look at another Android brand it would be LG. They, like Samsung, have a deep pocketed conglomerate parent and they actually make money in mobile. It was $1 per phone last quarter but it's better than what everyone else (but Samsung) are experiencing.
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I think it's £699 Right? So that's probably about the cost of an iPhone 6+ 128gb in usd. For 1/4 of the memory. ouch
Like I said before I'm with you, plus won't the battery usage being higher for video since it's an lcd screen? They're claiming 2 day battery but idk
Yes I was reading with all the mid-tier phones being so good, these higher priced phones are losing sales. If they lose their mobile division how will they offer the free year of playstation plus for buying their latest Xperia Z
I'm so confused on Samsung's financial situation, I thought they were doing bad with the s5/note 4 so they made these radical changes to try and recoup their mobile business
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Samsung is the only company that can afford a slow but steady "Apple like" evolution of their phones. Other OEMs have to resort to making phones that have special features that stand out in order to attract client. All OEMs except for Samsung are currently losing money so they have to come up with ways to say "our phone was the first that did X, or had X" Sometimes it works out in their favor, sometimes not. A bit like the ultra-pixel 4MP camera on HTC One. They were marketing that features as if it were unique to their flagship and most importantly, a camera game changer. Turned out, it was good for shooting nice low res pictures in low light, but it was overall one of the worst camera ever at the time.
As for the 4K screen, sure, it's nice, but battery technology isn't here to justify a 4K screen without a considerable drop in battery life and overall performance. Samsung has been working on a super thin flexible high capacity battery that will revolutionize battery life on smartphones, but until then, these features will just be a way to impress others...i'm not even sure you'll see that much of a difference between our screens and a 4K screen.
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Samsung throws so many things out at once, idk if I would call that slow. Heck they even have tizen phones.
I would agree but Sonys claiming 2 day battery life.
The thing is to see the difference, you need something to showcase it off. I'm not exactly sure what sony is going to do to show off 4k. I've owned the tab s, s6, and now note 5, and deepening my connection 1440p video is already hard to handle lol.

GreeleyXda said:
I'm so confused on Samsung's financial situation, I thought they were doing bad with the s5/note 4 so they made these radical changes to try and recoup their mobile business
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Samsung Mobile has made $5B in profit through July and the parent company has $50B of cash in the bank. The market's changed dramatically and assuming they regain their footing they'll be just fine.

good thread.
I've been considering whether to wait for the Z5 or take the plunge and buy note 5 now.
The price is a factor as Z5 is more expensive but mind you it does look brilliant better then note 5.
4k screen is amazing amazing
I would have bought note 5 in an instance where it not for TW and i do prefer sony UI.

BarryH_GEG said:
Samsung Mobile has made $5B in profit through July and the parent company has $50B of cash in the bank. The market's changed dramatically and assuming they regain their footing they'll be just fine.
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Does Samsung mobile include sales of screens and cpu chips to other companies? if so that would be more believable since they did really good with thief chips in addition to Qualcomm having problems with their chip.
riz157 said:
good thread.
I've been considering whether to wait for the Z5 or take the plunge and buy note 5 now.
The price is a factor as Z5 is more expensive but mind you it does look brilliant better then note 5.
4k screen is amazing amazing
I would have bought note 5 in an instance where it not for TW and i do prefer sony UI.
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Definately sounds like you would enjoy the Z5 more. Maybe you could get it on a payment plan, if it seems too expensive.
If you're into rooting, I would check out the z5 forum first. On one of the older Xperia Zs unlocking the boot loader affected the camera software, idk if they ever found away around that since I don't frequent over their too often.

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Does Samsung mobile include sales of screens and cpu chips to other companies?
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Nope. That division is Samsung Semiconductor. The number I shared is purely for mobile devices. They sold $22B in mobile devices last quarter alone.

BarryH_GEG said:
Sony's mobile division is losing $1M a day. The pricing on the Z5P makes the Note 5 look like a bargain. Can you imagine the impact a 4K screen will have on battery life; especially when at 8+" away from the screen you won't be able to tell the difference from QHD? I wish Sony well but if I were to bet I'd say their mobile division will be sold within a year. Their entire business (with the exception of PS) is in trouble and they can't carry a $365M annual loss forever. Three new high priced phones aimed at a shrinking Western market niche (high end smartphones) isn't going to get them anywhere. Just like the gorgeous M7 that set a design standard when it was released couldn't help HTC who's on their death bed. If I were to look at another Android brand it would be LG. They, like Samsung, have a deep pocketed conglomerate parent and they actually make money in mobile. It was $1 per phone last quarter but it's better than what everyone else (but Samsung) are experiencing.
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Where have you seen pricing for it? Sony has not released pricing for the device yet.

Anyone Rethinking the purchase after watching the Review?

So just like most you guys, I pre-ordered the Nexus 6p and awaiting shipment. Thankfully, a lot of reviews have been pouring in over the past week that gives us a pretty good idea of what to expect. To me, the biggest thing that makes me want to re-think this phone is the sheer fact of how TALL the phone is. I know it's a phablet, and I am currently on the OPO and I have fairly large hands ( I am 6ft tall) and I feel the height of the OPO is probably the max to go before it starts becoming uncomfortable. With the Nexus 6p being a good 1/4" Taller than the OPO, I don't know.. it just seems like it'll be a pain to use the phone with one hand. Plus Pure android does not have any software baked into it to make the interface easy for one handed use.
The other thing that I hear most reviewers say is that they are not happy with the brightness nits in direct sunlight (android authority said it was like 400 nits or something which is pretty low).
So what are your concerns after watching the reviews so far? Anyone getting cold feet? Anyone thinking some other phone (like the Xperia Z5) would be a better option?

I think the reviews have made me more excited to get this phone. I'm coming from a Nexus 5 2013, so it'll be a big size increase. Reviewers are talking highly of the phone with their only negatives really being biases or personal preferences. The aluminum body, how fast and smooth it runs marshmallow , stereo front facing speakers, native fingerprint sensor, ambient display, doze, and all of the features android hub processor brings, large battery, fast charging, amoled display (reviewers seem to agree that it looks great with good colors, but isn't as bright as other amoleds, which can probably be tweaked with software), project fi support, and a low price tag of $499 for a phone that's being compared with all of the best phones available right now like the iPhone 6S Plus, Note 5, OnePlus Two greatly reinforces why I'm buying this phone.
For me this is hands-down the right upgrade for me. I won't support Apple and I won't support Samsung. The closed-source nature of those companies is something I cannot support. I don't much care for their products either.. but that's another topic.
I'm just a tad bit worried about the size, but I'm sure I'll get used to it. My phones have practically doubled in size every year since I had my first cellphone. Besides that, my only other real concern is if there are any repercussions for unlocking/rooting such as apps not working or warranty being voided.

How could you change your mind after the reviews? It's not like the OnePlus Two where there were obvious glaring issues. The only thing I see are mixed reviews on the battery and that all depends on how you use the device which none of the reviews have really gone in depth about. I am waiting for the GSMArena review, they have a standardized tests for all of the important stuff.

xxtruplayaxx16 said:
If anything, the reviews are just reinforcing why I pre-ordered this phone as soon as possible. I think they have been very positive overall.
BTW, have you held an IPhone 6S Plus before? It is essentially identical in size to the 6P. This is how I made up my mind on whether I could really use a phone this big or not. I'm coming from a N4 so you could imagine I was a bit worried.
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Agree. My niece has the 6s+ and it feels amazing in my hand. I can't wait!!!
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Scyntherei said:
I think the reviews have made me more excited to get this phone. I'm coming from a Nexus 5 2013, so it'll be a big size increase. Reviewers are talking highly of the phone with their only negatives really being biases or personal preferences. The aluminum body, how fast and smooth it runs marshmallow , stereo front facing speakers, native fingerprint sensor, ambient display, doze, and all of the features android hub processor brings, large battery, fast charging, amoled display (reviewers seem to agree that it looks great with good colors, but isn't as bright as other amoleds, which can probably be tweaked with software), project fi support, and a low price tag of $499 for a phone that's being compared with all of the best phones available right now like the iPhone 6S Plus, Note 5, OnePlus Two greatly reinforces why I'm buying this phone.
For me this is hands-down the right upgrade for me. I won't support Apple and I won't support Samsung. The closed-source nature of those companies is something I cannot support. I don't much care for their products either.. but that's another topic.
I'm just a tad bit worried about the size, but I'm sure I'll get used to it. My phones have practically doubled in size every year since I had my first cellphone. Besides that, my only other real concern is if there are any repercussions for unlocking/rooting such as apps not working or warranty being voided.
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And if it is too big, u can sell it (probably for a premium) online and buy a nexus 5x. It's a great thing!
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They have only made me want it more. I usually have my ambient light sensor set at like 20 to 30 percent and never had an issue. So luckily for me that won't matter... Size is a concern just like the nexus 6 was, but this looks to be much easier to hold. G4 was a big change from my nexus 5, but I adapted quickly. And this should have the similar feel in size changes since the width isn't as big as the nexus 6

Nope

Definitely had me rethinking, about how I am going to purchase it

No.
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The reviews only help solidify my choice of ordering the first day they went on preorder.

Hell to the no... Not worried at all about the size, I'm using the Nexus 6 so... Lol
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The reviews thus far have just reaffirmed my decision to purchase this phone. It really does seem like the perfect Android device so far. Even though there is no such thing as a perfect phone, for me, this seems like the device I have waited so long for!

The only thing I regret is no ir blaster and no wireless charging. I like my note 4's stylus, but I can probably live without that.

My only ragrat is that frost looks better every time I see it, and graphite looks worse
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gonzlobo said:
The only thing I regret is no ir blaster and no wireless charging. I like my note 4's stylus, but I can probably live without that.
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I really wish devices would move away from IR remotes instead of wishing my phone has an IR blaster.
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As my phone's got bigger with each upgrade... I can assure you height won't matter. Width is key and is 1mm wider than the lg 4 I think. But each has their own preference for
Size so it's personal. Don't judge upon receipt... Give it a few days. You'll adjust quite quickly
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heleos said:
My only ragrat is that frost looks better every time I see it, and graphite looks worse
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Yea a made a quick decision early on to bail on the graphite and get silver as i felt the same.
Probably still nice anyway though
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I'm thinking I will be fine with my nexus 6 now. Apart from the finger print reader and camera there isn't much the 6P can do that the 6 cant.
The battery savings come from marshmallow and I have that already on the 6 so I'm losing the urge to upgrade. If I was coming from any other phone though I would be upgrading asap!
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ylexot said:
I really wish devices would move away from IR remotes instead of wishing my phone has an IR blaster.
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My devices are smart - connected to my wifi - been using apps to control then for a long time now.
I'd say time to into into the future, but the future has been here for a while now.

Is the Nexus 6p (and other nexus devices) overrated

So I've been seeing alot of posts saying the nexus 6p is "the best android phone ever". Well I, for one, don't quite agree. Yea, it runs stock android which makes the UI alot smoother compared to say samsung . But still the camera is only average. Processor isn't on the real high end build is unique but not a sexy phone. So what are your views?

It's all about perception
For me the one word review is
SATISFACTION.
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Actually the camera on this phone is very good and not just average.
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Google-Nexus-6P-review-Serious-contender-for-mobile-photography
Very satisfied with this phone. Android pay works with root, speedy and very good battery life for me. I can use different carriers. No bend for me as that is usually from non average handling and I always use a case.
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So I've been seeing alot of posts saying the nexus 6p is "the best android phone ever". Well I, for one, don't quite agree. Yea, it runs stock android which makes the UI alot smoother compared to say samsung . But still the camera is only average. Processor isn't on the real high end build is unique but not a sexy phone. So what are your views?
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Overall as a total package it is the best Android phone I have used. The battery life is a bit disappointing as I was expecting iPhone 6S Plus type battery but I'm still overall very pleased.

It's a very good phone IMHO, but with the bending issue, noise on the headphone jack and no Android pay with Xposed I feel pretty dumb for buying this instead of a oneplus 2. I have a oneplus one and that phone is solid. I skipped the op2 because of nfc and now I have a bent 6p and still no Android pay. Might not be such a big deal but the 6p costs so much more for similar specs.
Yeah the 6p has a "better" display, but I can't really sus out a big difference unless I'm really looking for it. The camera is also a bit better(mostly in low light).

Loser.lon said:
So I've been seeing alot of posts saying the nexus 6p is "the best android phone ever". Well I, for one, don't quite agree. Yea, it runs stock android which makes the UI alot smoother compared to say samsung . But still the camera is only average. Processor isn't on the real high end build is unique but not a sexy phone. So what are your views?
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Are you serious? 810 was the best SOC at the time from Qualcomm, nothing better. This is the newest Super AMOLED from Samsung. Uses larger pixels for camera, best in class for all situations which often are low light. This is so successful Samsung took note and reduced 16mp to 12mp for larger pixel and sensor. Only Moto X Pure has better speakers. Add that with the excellent battery and software, there is little doubt Nexus 6P was the best Android Phone of 2015. No other phone provided the full package. The fingerprint is icing on the cake, Google's imprint is the best fingerprint solution on any smartphone to date.
For custom roms, 6P is heaven. I used Purity in the past, not available for 6P, but I am using it anyway. Building roms for 6P for either CM/AOSP/OMNI based roms is an absolute breeze.
As for quality issues? No idea since I haven't seen any Nexus 6P in the wild that aren't in pristine condition and well perfect.
For those complaining about Android Pay and they rooted for Xposed? That is hilarious...
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Are you serious? 810 was the best SOC at the time from Qualcomm, nothing better. This is the newest Super AMOLED from Samsung. Uses larger pixels for camera, best in class for all situations which often are low light. This is so successful Samsung took note and reduced 16mp to 12mp for larger pixel and sensor. Only Moto X Pure has better speakers. Add that with the excellent battery and software, there is little doubt Nexus 6P was the best Android Phone of 2015. No other phone provided the full package. The fingerprint is icing on the cake, Google's imprint is the best fingerprint solution on any smartphone to date.
For custom roms, 6P is heaven. I used Purity in the past, not available for 6P, but I am using it anyway. Building roms for 6P for either CM/AOSP/OMNI based roms is an absolute breeze.
As for quality issues? No idea since I haven't seen any Nexus 6P in the wild that aren't in pristine condition and well perfect.
For those complaining about Android Pay and they rooted for Xposed? That is hilarious...
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The Android pay issue is not the phones fault but it's worth noting that in my case I went into it after having used Google wallet for years with exposed on multiple devices. I didn't want the op2 because no nfc, little did I know that it wouldn't matter with Android pay since it locked down the ability to use with root.

I'm not going to get into a war that neither side can win since it's our opinion... But in my opinion, they are insanely overrated, 6P included. I will just leave it at that.

Actually it's underrated and keeps getting better with time & xda! :silly:

If your heavily invested in your mobile OS, and want everything to work, buy an iPhone.
If you prefer Android, and still want everything to work, Nexus is your best bet. Otherwise, you risk OEM skins breaking things (AA, Wear, etc.), and possibly never seeing a firmware upgrade that gets things right.
Glad your OPO worked perfectly for you; it did not for many.
This is of course just how I see things, but it is due to years of experience with my ear very close to the ground. (C;

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I'm not going to get into a war that neither side can win since it's our opinion... But in my opinion, they are insanely overrated, 6P included. I will just leave it at that.
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Yes we know, you spend all your time on XDA trying to stop folks from buying Nexus and buying a Galaxy phone. It's very clear from your post history you don't actually contribute anything to XDA other than negativity about the 6P.

Is the Nexus 6p Overrated? ....................A IPhone is Overrated. Honestly I would have to say NO, you cant even go to a carrier and pick one up yet. Here is my reason for a a Nexus device:
-Service
Supports CDMA, GSM and Voice over WI-FI, Great for me since I have Verizon and it also would make it easy for me to drop Verizon and go somewhere else without spend 700$+ on their new phone.
-Price to performance
For 499$-649$ now compare to the Samsung S7 edge 800-900$ and performing nearly the same and difference are in the 1-3 sec range (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smY4FOeVdvs)
-Pretty Great display
It's a Samsung AMOLED Display, only thing you don't get is a super bright mode for the outdoors.
-Great Camera
It not the best camera but it’s a great camera. It’s able to take great picture at night and during the day. 1080p and 4k recording is great when not moving. But I notice EIS work with 1080 but it disables somehow with 4k. I don't have a 4k display yet so I don't really use 4k feature. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMHeX8gGy3k)
- Metal build
I'm still wondering how in the world people are bending their phones. It seems like a lot of people watching YouTube these day a little too much. I guess I’m a lucky person who never had that issue. I loved the build but i do rock a case on it, the metal does make it feels like it worth its price.
-Finger print scanner
Best thing that could happen to a smartphone. but it need to be integrated in to more app other the android pay.
-Front facing speaker
Only one other phone that could come close to this level of sound quality is a HTC device with boom sound.
-Battery
This is one of the hardest subject because we all don't use our phones the same. More you play games and watch video faster your battery goes down. Usually on an 8 hour work I get to 83% with light (email, phone call, text message, Facebook). Come home and play games and watch YouTube for 4-5 hours and get to 20% -15%
-No bloatware (include carrier software)
-You know you are get a next Android Update
-Google provides a monthly security Update
-Most active developer community on the internet
-Knowing that you will be able to unlock your bootloader
-Having ROMs and Kernel

It definitely isn't overrated, its extremely reasonably priced in comparison to hilarious outrageous prices charged by Samsung and Apple, its a premium phone without the premium price tag with the best software experience around on a mobile OS. Also the camera definitely isn't average.

People around me think it's overrated (and way overpriced) too, but that's just because I'm in China where no one appreciates the simplicity and speed of AOSP-based Android. The camera is even better with the aid of apps like Camera FV-5 (e.g. macro), and finger scanning speed beats iPhones to it. They like the new MI 5 for instance, but they've never been able to get their hands on one
But yeah, I hate the looks the more I look at it. I don't want it to look like a Huawei phone, lest look like a Mate 7.
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zymphad said:
Yes we know, you spend all your time on XDA trying to stop folks from buying Nexus and buying a Galaxy phone. It's very clear from your post history you don't actually contribute anything to XDA other than negativity about the 6P.
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I spend all my time trying to stop people from buying this phone? Good job making up stories. I never once told someone not to buy it to my knowledge. I've given my opinion like you, but never flat out told someone not to buy it.
I have a right to my opinion that it's overrated. I've said this from the minute I became obsessed with Android phones years ago... People grossly overrate stock Android, hence Nexus phones as well.
For a small and quick example... The 6P is the first Nexus which doesn't have a downright embarrassing camera, yet people still said Nexus was the best. Camera is just one example. Let's not forget the laughable screens on the Nexus 4 and 5, and the color issues with the 6 and 6P.
Anyhow, glad you like your phone. You should if you're using it each day. Everyone has their own needs. I'm happy for you as much as you won't believe it lol. Remember, there is no wrong choice.

WizeGuyDezignz said:
I have a right to my opinion that it's overrated. I've said this from the minute I became obsessed with Android phones years ago... People grossly overrate stock Android, hence Nexus phones as well.
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Your arguments don't make much sense since Nexus phones were introduced as what Google meant android to be and as a development platform for app developers and for those who contribute to the AOSP project.
Nexus phones were advertised as the best stock android experience and that is true, this is as google meant android to be. Obviously a lot of folks want the Samsung/LG/HTC etc experience. It is ludicrous to say that is overrated, no brand of phone does stock android better. Anyone buying a Nexus device should know what it is they are buying.
Nexus as a mainstream device only came about because a following developed for the stock experience. Camera would not have been high on the list, promoting Android, and helping some manufactures gain brand recognition and growth was. It wasn't until Nexus 5 Google saw Nexus as a brand to go head to head with Apple. Nexus 6 first attempt, and Google managing to provide this level of camera experience and overall feel at $450 one year later is amazing.
Despite the amazing hardware and refinements, I still see Nexus phones as the best way to introduce someone to android on a budget. It comes with great hardware, 810/806, good battery life, fingerprint, monthly security updates, an open platform to use device as you wish (rooting, development), and a great simple point and shoot camera for all lighting conditions. I do not see how that is overrated.
If one wanted the absolute best camera, materials, quality controlled and tested build, and the prestige or popularism, Nexus clearly not the phone. Best to look at an iPhone frankly...

Loser.lon said:
So I've been seeing alot of posts saying the nexus 6p is "the best android phone ever". Well I, for one, don't quite agree. Yea, it runs stock android which makes the UI alot smoother compared to say samsung . But still the camera is only average. Processor isn't on the real high end build is unique but not a sexy phone. So what are your views?
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I had the LG G4 for 6 months, sold it and now am happily using a Nexus 6P. I missed my Nexus 5 and the "development" side of things, so going back to the Nexus family makes me happy.

Nexus is perfect for a specific type of user.... The smart ones! Besides the 6p has better low light camera response than g4/v10, which was best from last year.
It's a highly customizable device. Doesn't compare to Samsung or lg in this department. IPhone isn't even on the same planet, its the opposite of customizing.
Also the 6p's 810 v2 has received over 120,000 antutu benchmarks consistently without getting hot or rapid battery loss.
Lastly it will be current for at least 3 to 4 years (maybe more) with a custom ROM.

markwebb said:
Actually the camera on this phone is very good and not just average.
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Google-Nexus-6P-review-Serious-contender-for-mobile-photography
Very satisfied with this phone. Android pay works with root, speedy and very good battery life for me. I can use different carriers. No bend for me as that is usually from non average handling and I always use a case.
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Haha sorry I was wrong when I said average camera. Better then average but maybe not up to s6 standard?

Everyone has different uses for their phone. Some likes phones with better camera who doesnt watch videos or play games... Some enjoy playing games and dont really use the camera. Some like to listen audio or surf the web.. Some who are rich and just needs a phone.
There is no 1 phone that is the best for everything. If it existed, it woudnt be cheap.. Just look at the 2 biggest players, Apple and Samsung.. their phones still has flaws and cost much more then Nexus devices, even though the nexus devices over the past years are getting up there... This device is just as good as any Samsung or iPhone (of the same year) IMHO...