Current state of " aokp stock android" vs "touchwiz" roms? - Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Current state of " aokp stock android" vs "touchwiz" roms? - Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Just got S5 after using S3 for a long time with CM based roms.
I hear that fingerprint scanner and heartrate monitor are not working on aokp.
1. Also I hear that camera quality is worse, but in what way exactly? (the app itself, picture post process or does hardware malfunction)
2. I see people saying that battery time is better on touchwiz. Is it true and by how much? And why is this? I remember seeing google play edition S4 having better battery than touchwiz variant.
3. Performance wise, how do they compare with lag in interface and other things
4. Is there anything else?

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LG G2 questions of an GS3 guy

Hey guys,
I currently have an I9300 (A.K.A Galaxy S3) and thinking about upgrade to G2. I'm not looking for a advice on this thread but some info. Been on my GS3 since 1,5 years now and I rather know all the pros and cons of my device.
One of them is our Exynos chip that literally kills the device when using AOSP, second one is broken HW composer due the lack of closed source stuff of Samsung. Last but not least is the camera quality, vastly better on stock Touchwiz roms.
Knowing this stuff I have the following questions regarding G2;
1.- G2 uses Snapdragon, so on paper AOSP Roms should work fine (or not as bad as it is on Exynos). Is this really true? How does perform CM11 right now on the G2? I'm planning to stick always with CM or AOSP becouse can't stand stock LG skinned Android. On my S3 I am currently rolling CM11 and it is pretty OK due the great devs we have there. But you guys know, we always want something better
2.- Been reading a lot about the camera on the G2 and all threads say the same, camera quality on Stock is much better than AOSP. The question is; Is this difference big as on the GS3?
I am running away from the abusive closed source policy of Samsung and limited updates (I know is the same with LG but at least you guys don't have an Exynos chip to deal with :silly
Will I be able reach the full of G2 capacity staying at AOSP or it is going to be the same as it happens with my S3?. Am I going to be cursed to stay at stock Android until LG stop supporting the device? Will I be at home with a G2 or should look for a fugly Nexus 5 instead?
Posting this thing on General becouse it could help guys with the same doubts as I do. Hope you don't mind this big wall text.
Kind regards!

beeeto said:
Hey guys,
I currently have an I9300 (A.K.A Galaxy S3) and thinking about upgrade to G2. I'm not looking for a advice on this thread but some info. Been on my GS3 since 1,5 years now and I rather know all the pros and cons of my device.
One of them is our Exynos chip that literally kills the device when using AOSP, second one is broken HW composer due the lack of closed source stuff of Samsung. Last but not least is the camera quality, vastly better on stock Touchwiz roms.
Knowing this stuff I have the following questions regarding G2;
1.- G2 uses Snapdragon, so on paper AOSP Roms should work fine (or not as bad as it is on Exynos). Is this really true? How does perform CM11 right now on the G2? I'm planning to stick always with CM or AOSP becouse can't stand stock LG skinned Android. On my S3 I am currently rolling CM11 and it is pretty OK due the great devs we have there. But you guys know, we always want something better
2.- Been reading a lot about the camera on the G2 and all threads say the same, camera quality on Stock is much better than AOSP. The question is; Is this difference big as on the GS3?
I am running away from the abusive closed source policy of Samsung and limited updates (I know is the same with LG but at least you guys don't have an Exynos chip to deal with :silly
Will I be able reach the full of G2 capacity staying at AOSP or it is going to be the same as it happens with my S3?. Am I going to be cursed to stay at stock Android until LG stop supporting the device? Will I be at home with a G2 or should look for a fugly Nexus 5 instead?
Posting this thing on General becouse it could help guys with the same doubts as I do. Hope you don't mind this big wall text.
Kind regards!
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Before G2 I had S3 and Note2 and since both of them have same exynos and camera they were pretty similar in AOSP roms.
With S3 I used AOSP 80% of time (cm11 temasek). On note2 I used lame touchwiz because of spen.
Anyway after switching to G2 I flashed AOSP same day I got it (rooting doesn't void warranty in EU). I got G2 in last december and at that time AOSP was still quite buggy. But now AOSP is nearly as stable as stock.
Regarding your questions:
1. As I said AOSP now is fine, but look for rom that uses kitkat kernel source. In my opinion Mahdi ROM is best for AOSP. CM still uses old jellybean kernel sources that has bugs, so I avoid using it. I have been using Mahdi most of the time and there were only few bugs that were fixed quite fast. I agree that stock LG ui looks awful, but with xposed you can make it look nearly like AOSP (quicksettings and stuff). But you should definitely take a look at G3 roms, they are much better looking.
2. Regarding camera quality yes on AOSP it is a little worse, but in my opinion not as big difference from stock as it was on S3. There are ported stock camera app for AOSP if you want to check that out.
When I switched to G2 I was also looking at Nexus 5 since I am kinda flashoholic. But I am really happy that I got G2 not Nexus5. After I switched from S3 to N2 I got used to great battery of it and G2 has even better battery life than Note2. Plus thoose buttons on back are just the way they should be on all phones.
Anyway hope I helped you with this information.

Orvils said:
Before G2 I had S3 and Note2 and since both of them have same exynos and camera they were pretty similar in AOSP roms.
With S3 I used AOSP 80% of time (cm11 temasek). On note2 I used lame touchwiz because of spen.
Anyway after switching to G2 I flashed AOSP same day I got it (rooting doesn't void warranty in EU). I got G2 in last december and at that time AOSP was still quite buggy. But now AOSP is nearly as stable as stock.
Regarding your questions:
1. As I said AOSP now is fine, but look for rom that uses kitkat kernel source. In my opinion Mahdi ROM is best for AOSP. CM still uses old jellybean kernel sources that has bugs, so I avoid using it. I have been using Mahdi most of the time and there were only few bugs that were fixed quite fast. I agree that stock LG ui looks awful, but with xposed you can make it look nearly like AOSP (quicksettings and stuff). But you should definitely take a look at G3 roms, they are much better looking.
2. Regarding camera quality yes on AOSP it is a little worse, but in my opinion not as big difference from stock as it was on S3. There are ported stock camera app for AOSP if you want to check that out.
When I switched to G2 I was also looking at Nexus 5 since I am kinda flashoholic. But I am really happy that I got G2 not Nexus5. After I switched from S3 to N2 I got used to great battery of it and G2 has even better battery life than Note2. Plus thoose buttons on back are just the way they should be on all phones.
Anyway hope I helped you with this information.
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Oh boy, your words are like a gold mine! Exactly what I was looking for.
My G2 is officially ordered. Hope I'll be joining this part of XDA really soon and say good bye my old fellows I9300 users. Im sure here I'll feel at home :fingers-crossed:.
Have a little couple of questions, they are a little specific so couldn't find precise info. Hope you guys can direct me a little.
1.- You surely know that the most famous Kernel on the i9300 is Boeffla, it has own app to control voltages, sound control, overclock, etc. What is the G2 counter part? (I know Kernels are subjective but want to know where to start )
2.- What are the most used OC arround here for the CPU? (On the i9300 was 1.6Ghz)
I'm going to be wondering arround here a lot, so I hope don't get bashed for these questions, they are my base when starting to use a new device. (Yesterday spent 2 hours browsing ROM's and other threads, haha)
Thank you again!

beeeto said:
Oh boy, your words are like a gold mine! Exactly what I was looking for.
My G2 is officially ordered. Hope I'll be joining this part of XDA really soon and say good bye my old fellows I9300 users. Im sure here I'll feel at home :fingers-crossed:.
Have a little couple of questions, they are a little specific so couldn't find precise info. Hope you guys can direct me a little.
1.- You surely know that the most famous Kernel on the i9300 is Boeffla, it has own app to control voltages, sound control, overclock, etc. What is the G2 counter part? (I know Kernels are subjective but want to know where to start )
2.- What are the most used OC arround here for the CPU? (On the i9300 was 1.6Ghz)
I'm going to be wondering arround here a lot, so I hope don't get bashed for these questions, they are my base when starting to use a new device. (Yesterday spent 2 hours browsing ROM's and other threads, haha)
Thank you again!
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1. Well for stock roms there is dorimanx kernel. It has faux sound, overclock, undervolt, etc.
2. With dorimanx you can overclock up to max 2.8 GHz.
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beeeto said:
1.- G2 uses Snapdragon, so on paper AOSP Roms should work fine (or not as bad as it is on Exynos). Is this really true? How does perform CM11 right now on the G2? I'm planning to stick always with CM or AOSP becouse can't stand stock LG skinned Android. On my S3 I am currently rolling CM11 and it is pretty OK due the great devs we have there. But you guys know, we always want something better
2.- Been reading a lot about the camera on the G2 and all threads say the same, camera quality on Stock is much better than AOSP. The question is; Is this difference big as on the GS3?
Kind regards!
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s3's camera doesnt even come close to the cam on the g2 ! the quality is unbelievable. just note that night shots do get distorted when its very very dark ! but that happens on all phone cameras so its fine
oh and also cm11 rom doesnt support UHD and 120 FPS slowmo addons i bought this cus of the camera features n battery backup. i cant let it just go

Orvils said:
Before G2 I had S3 and Note2 and since both of them have same exynos and camera they were pretty similar in AOSP roms.
With S3 I used AOSP 80% of time (cm11 temasek). On note2 I used lame touchwiz because of spen.
Anyway after switching to G2 I flashed AOSP same day I got it (rooting doesn't void warranty in EU). I got G2 in last december and at that time AOSP was still quite buggy. But now AOSP is nearly as stable as stock.
Regarding your questions:
1. As I said AOSP now is fine, but look for rom that uses kitkat kernel source. In my opinion Mahdi ROM is best for AOSP. CM still uses old jellybean kernel sources that has bugs, so I avoid using it. I have been using Mahdi most of the time and there were only few bugs that were fixed quite fast. I agree that stock LG ui looks awful, but with xposed you can make it look nearly like AOSP (quicksettings and stuff). But you should definitely take a look at G3 roms, they are much better looking.
2. Regarding camera quality yes on AOSP it is a little worse, but in my opinion not as big difference from stock as it was on S3. There are ported stock camera app for AOSP if you want to check that out.
When I switched to G2 I was also looking at Nexus 5 since I am kinda flashoholic. But I am really happy that I got G2 not Nexus5. After I switched from S3 to N2 I got used to great battery of it and G2 has even better battery life than Note2. Plus thoose buttons on back are just the way they should be on all phones.
Anyway hope I helped you with this information.
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Where did you hear that rooting doesn't void warranty on Europe?
Are you completely 100% sure?
Cause I'm very interested in knowing if this is true.
Only rooting or also installing roms? Installing roms and custom recoveries doesn't void the warranty?
Thanks!!

My G2 is awesome. I keep it running stock ROM because I love what LG has done. If you've never tried it before, give it a chance before moving to CM 11. I have Nova installed and using that instead of LG launcher but other than that I really do enjoy all the features that come from LG =).
I compared my phone to a Nexus 5 side by side and it was pretty much the same speed to open apps (Except Viber, it was faster on N5, no idea why..). It's a very smooth phone, even when running LG UI .
My brother has the S3 and it's a good smooth phone but my G2 is an overall better phone.
You won't regret upgrading to it. Just make sure you get one without a touchscreen bug. I was lucky when I bought mine from someone else, it didn't have the touchscreen bug and still does not.
Camera is not the best and I'm considering trading for an S5 or Z2 just for that reason. I would actually go for the Find 7 but a bit too expensive and big. I prefer the camera on the S4 (I had that phone prior to the G2 and I also had the S4 Zoom). The S4 Zoom was the best one with awesome night shots since you can control shutter speed. Sadly we can't control shutter speed on G2 (on Oppo Find 7 we can and K zoom also). Day shots are good on G2 while some shots can really look awesome. It does bokeh effect better than the S4 and looks spectacular for a phone.
Low light shots can be either ok or bad. Too much over-processing going on and white balance isn't the best. I still love my LG G2 though!
I am using xdabbeb's camera mod, by the way, which I suggest you do also if you get the phone.

Nevermind, figured out by my self, thank you!

Bloody G3 - I need to rant

I know this is going to sound very much like a first world problem, but this phone is frustratingly ****. It is easily the buggiest, slowest, most laggy phone I have ever had.
I have tried just about all the LG based ROMS, only to find that each one, although not buggy, are all laggy. The lag is so bad that it gives my old S2 on Gingerbread a run for its money. At least with Samsung phones, you could get rid of the lag by using a AOSP ROM and it would still be functional.
To solve the frustrating lag issue, I have installed a CM based ROM. At first I was delighted. The lag was gone. The phone was now comparable to my super fast Nexus 5. But after a few hours, I noticed the same bugs that every other CM based ROM user has. Today, I had to restart the phone six times FFS! It is a little more stable on 777 Kernel, but the same issues still persist.
Has anyone achieved bliss with this phone? Is there any ROMS, AOSP or LG based, that are fast, (Nexus 5 fast), and bug free?
Don't get me wrong, I love devs and the work they do. Without them, my old Galaxy phones, (S1, S2, S3, S4), would have been poo. My Nexus 5 would have been boring. (Stock android is meh). I just don't understand why this phone seems to have so many issues. Help me understand why it is so hard to develop a fast and reliable ROM for this phone. I know it isn't from a lack of trying. There is heaps of support and devs working on various ROMS in the G3 threads already and all of them are very talented.
Is it hardware based lag or is there something else inherently wrong with the phone?
Thanks for reading and offering any solutions. I don't want to list the ROMS I have tried, as it will seem like I am an ungrateful twat to those devs that worked so hard. Suffice to say, I have tried all the popular CM/AOSP and LG based ROMS.

Stock 5.0 V20H fine for me no lag [emoji3]

I switched to note 4 whilst g3 was good I had a better experience with my note 3. So upgraded
-= Note 4 & Gear VR =-

hashcheck said:
I switched to note 4 whilst g3 was good I had a better experience with my note 3. So upgraded
-= Note 4 & Gear VR =-
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I don't want to switch so soon. There has to be a solution. I love the screen and size of this phone. The only other phone I would consider is the droid turbo, but it's so bloody expensive!

DoobyDroid said:
Stock 5.0 V20H fine for me no lag [emoji3]
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Compared to what? Which other android phone have you used? In isolation, this phone is barely acceptable. Then, after you use a nexus, HTC or Sony phone, this phone is comparably slow. Almost unusable.
I can't bring myself to try stock again until someone who has other phones to base their claims on can confirm it is lag free.

cubic25 said:
Compared to what? Which other android phone have you used? In isolation, this phone is barely acceptable. Then, after you use a nexus, HTC or Sony phone, this phone is comparably slow. Almost unusable.
I can't bring myself to try stock again until someone who has other phones to base their claims on can confirm it is lag free.
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Have you tried the usual tricks?
1. Swap out the stock launcher for something like Nova or Apex
2. Switch your keyboard to a 3rd party keyboard
While it does suffer from the random stutter, my phone is generally very zippy and does not lag.

Done all that. On stock based ROMS, stutter and lag is unbearable. My wife, nexus 5 user, even commented on how bad it is. I'm actually embarrassed to use the phone in front of people. I know it isn't a hardware issue, because AOSP ROMS are lag free, but not bug free.

Yeah, the phone is nowhere near as quick as a Nexus. The notification bar is also **** compared to stock Lollipop. There are a few tricks I use to improve performance on a stock rom:
1) Turn off throttling/thermal daemon via the service menu.
2) I use setCPU to set the phone to use the "performance" scheduler whenever the screen is on, locking it at 2.5Ghz.
Still isn't perfect, but it helps substantially. Obviously this is in addition to changing the launcher.
It's just one of those things. As you say, CM12 just isn't stable and worryingly seems to be going backwards, getting less and less stable with each passing nightly. The camera is also completely crap on AOSP roms. Nexus devices are great but the N5 is old and the N6 is too big and expensive. The S5 lags too, and while Note 4 is supposed to be good, but I simply won't believe that Touchwiz lag is gone without seeing it with my own eyes. Even if it has gone, Touchwiz remains the ugliest skin I've ever seen. Sony phones are nice, but they aren't packaged anywhere near as tightly as the G3, which is it's biggest strength: 22mm shorter than an iPhone 6+, with the same size screen. That's impressive. HTC's are just ridiculously large for a given screen size. The 1+1 is old now, and doesn't support all LTE bands used in the UK.
There is no perfect phone. Whichever you choose, there are compromises to be made. However IMHO the G3 strikes the best compromise available today, at least once running the latest Lollipop build and with the tweaks I mentioned above applied.

Had most 2014 flagships and G3 is deff fav so far, didnt have KK as updated to LP out the box had little lag after ota but common just needed a factory reset and all good since

Just a tip you can use on any android phone, go to settings, developer options, and set all the animations to 0.5x. This drastically reduces the time the animations take, and it gives a very snappy experience. It makes a LOT of difference, trust me.

No lag whatsoever here. Im running Chupachups newest rom with rin kernel. I've previously owned htc one, lg g2, xperia z1 and this phone definitely outperforms them all.

Ive owned the Xperia Z1, HTC One M7, and tbh id rate this better than both, i would like the battery life to be better my Z1 was amazing for that buh im custom stock rom and i dont get lag, everything is as it should be.

cubic25 said:
I know this is going to sound very much like a first world problem, but this phone is frustratingly ****. It is easily the buggiest, slowest, most laggy phone I have ever had.
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Has anyone achieved bliss with this phone? Is there any ROMS, AOSP or LG based, that are fast, (Nexus 5 fast), and bug free?
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Is it hardware based lag or is there something else inherently wrong with the phone?
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Because LL is still unstable and buggy? And so is any rom based on it?..
Stock firmware sucks because of LG's software - it's very badly written. Almost as bad as touchwiz is. (I used SGS3, trust me on that one...)
AOSP/CM based firmwares are better, but they still suffer due do LL newness. Wait till android 5.1, things may become better.
There is also a hardware issue: unbelievably bad heat management. They used 8974ac, but had not made any cooling system. No radiators, no heat spread throughout the case, and it's facing LCD panel - which is a very bad radiator. GG WP, throttling kick in, phone starts to lag, etc etc etc.

I think there may be problem with your unit... Try to send it back to get a replacement or have it serviced.
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I agree that most of the stock LG-G3 roms, Lollipop/Kitkat, if not rooted and without any mods, LAG is unavoidable. The case is, some people can't root their phones and most of them will try searching why G3 stock rom is lagging... if I'm one of them and I happen to see this post, I would feel bad and feel stupid at the same time why I spend money buying a crappy phone.
Well anyways, try Crash Rom v2.0. It is a stock based ROM like chupachups. The animation is not as fluid as CM but I won't say that it's lagging. Compared to CM, I have not yet encountered any bugs and mostly the camera is better. If you're interested you can also downgrade the resolution to 1080p, this will enhance your g3, 3d and 2d graphics performance.

Hi im all so on lollipop 5.0 updated out of the box and its all good maybe some lag not much to notice. Still no root method yet for stock lollipop 5.0 and i dont want to downgrade to kk so il have patience and wait for new root method for me g3

Wow, I went from the nexus 5, to the htc m8, to the g3 all in year. My advice, play with this one to get the phone lag gone. This by far is the best. Like a previous person said, turn off animations and change the launcher.

mab71 said:
I think there may be problem with your unit... Try to send it back to get a replacement or have it serviced.
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Can't be an issue with the phone, as it is lag free with CM based ROMS.
marfioso said:
I agree that most of the stock LG-G3 roms, Lollipop/Kitkat, if not rooted and without any mods, LAG is unavoidable. The case is, some people can't root their phones and most of them will try searching why G3 stock rom is lagging... if I'm one of them and I happen to see this post, I would feel bad and feel stupid at the same time why I spend money buying a crappy phone.
Well anyways, try Crash Rom v2.0. It is a stock based ROM like chupachups. The animation is not as fluid as CM but I won't say that it's lagging. Compared to CM, I have not yet encountered any bugs and mostly the camera is better. If you're interested you can also downgrade the resolution to 1080p, this will enhance your g3, 3d and 2d graphics performance.
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I'll give crash a go this afternoon and report back. Hopefully 5.1 ROMS fix the issue too.
dspcap said:
Wow, I went from the nexus 5, to the htc m8, to the g3 all in year. My advice, play with this one to get the phone lag gone. This by far is the best. Like a previous person said, turn off animations and change the launcher.
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Already done all that. Animations are turned off, launcher animations are set to lightning fast, CPU throttling is turned off. I've tried all the tricks in the book. Fact is, LG based software is crap, just like Samsung.
So far today, the lock-screen has only frozen on me four times, which is good.
I'm not sure if I'd rather put up with a laggy phone or a buggy phone.

My phone is currently on V20h. Apart from the occasional Home launcher crash, I've not had any lag that I notice of. The last time there was any lag was on V10i. My phone is rooted but is not running any mods.
Prior to this, I've had the Note 3 and Xperia S. Compared to the G3, I would say that the smoothness is at the very least, on par with the Note 3 running on stock.
I've seen people complaining about the G3 being laggy too. Is your phone by any chance the 2 GB RAM version?

My phone is the 2gb version, but I always have at least close to 300mb free. Sometimes I have over 1gb free. Not that it should matter though, as I have read on numerous places that the 3gb version lags too, and that both phones are very close on performance. The extra 1gb of RAM is negligible.
Just flashing Crash ROM now. I think I'm going to regret it though, as I much prefer the look of AOSP anyway.
Ah crap. Just as I flash the ROM, I read that the dev is stopping support for our device. Based on the comments, it looks like a promising ROM.

What Samsung features are missing when you install CyanogenMod ROM?

What Samsung features are missing when you install CyanogenMod ROM? I noticed that all of the cool, stock lockscreen effects are missing. But what about things like:
Super fast boot time
multi-window
S Beam
Screen Mirroring
Floating Messages
S Pen
Etc

I tried CM only for couple of hours (that was quite honestly enough for me), and S Pen features were obviously missing, same for Multi Window, and most importantly for me the display profiles weren't there, I mean the ones you find under Settings- Display, Cinema is the one I use, and I won't use anything else, and CM doesn't have anything like that, they have some colour temperature altering option however, but quite honestly that was nowhere near same as Samsung's preset calibration. Another thing is, the camera photo quality won't be like stock TouchWiz camera, and then there is the call quality!
It was way too many things to compromise for me, for little speed bump.

Was in CM till the Lollipop came and yes I don't use much TW features even though I am in TW now.
but after Lollipop, TW is better in performance and battery (without Greenify or Xposed), I've freezed a few apps though..
Im using Lean Kernel and TW base gives better battery anyday!

ithehappy said:
I tried CM only for couple of hours (that was quite honestly enough for me), and S Pen features were obviously missing, same for Multi Window, and most importantly for me the display profiles weren't there, I mean the ones you find under Settings- Display, Cinema is the one I use, and I won't use anything else, and CM doesn't have anything like that, they have some colour temperature altering option however, but quite honestly that was nowhere near same as Samsung's preset calibration. Another thing is, the camera photo quality won't be like stock TouchWiz camera, and then there is the call quality!
It was way too many things to compromise for me, for little speed bump.
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Was in CM till the Lollipop came and yes I don't use much TW features even though I am in TW now.
but after Lollipop, TW is better in performance and battery (without Greenify or Xposed), I've freezed a few apps though..
Im using Lean Kernel and TW base gives better battery anyday!
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Thanks, I think I'll stick with TouchWiz then!

Right but it's more to personal preference. Most importantly I hate the interface. TW is much better looking for me. I can live with some lags.
CM, overall it's fast but it has some lags when opening a dialer or so. And the battery life is terrible. No matter which rom i've tried on my note 1 & 3 nothing is better than TW.
If i want a stock android i will get a nexus.
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Lol
For me TW is the ugliest.
Never used gimmicks so for me there is no point in TW. Haven't touched stylus in a year, I don't multi task. And there are apps that work even better than Samsung spen apps other than snote, but Microsoft note is great.
Can't compare nexus phones to others as their design and hardware isn't best compared to Sony and htc, and some Samsung phones. I like Samsungs hardware but I have cm on all my devices. I like smoothness of CM if you can sett it up the way you want. Never ever lags here.
For me SoT is up to 8 hours and I'm happy as I have no problem charging phone wherever am I.
If CM was so bad it wouldn't be so popular and used by millions.
And those that buy a Samsung device just like others buy an apple, there is no way they can accept anything else.
Those willing to try new things can try themselves and see if it is working for them or not. Everything else is bull****, as I have listened to those before and this way missed my dream OS till I tried different ones and finally found what I was looking for.
TW is best for those that can't live without it. TW is the worst for those that don't like it.
CM is best for those that like it. CM is worst for those that see no point in it.

nijom said:
Was in CM till the Lollipop came and yes I don't use much TW features even though I am in TW now.
but after Lollipop, TW is better in performance and battery (without Greenify or Xposed), I've freezed a few apps though..
Im using Lean Kernel and TW base gives better battery anyday!
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I agree totally. Before tw lollipop, I couldn't stand tw. Now it feels just as fast as some cm roms, save for a few lightning fast ROMs like slim and validus and minimal.
I do enjoy cm/slim a lot because of all the well designed themes and built in mods/cherry picks.
On tw you need to use xposed, or an app, to achieve different tweaks. But if you cook up a ROM with those features, you're all set. Cough cough aryamod layers, mods, cough cough
I do need more battery life, so sadly I can only use tw for the time being.
But I can find touch wiz app alternatives that suffice when on cm. Although camera quality isn't as good.
I guess I'm a perfect candidate for multi boot...
Tw average sot for my usage: 6 to 7hr
Cm average sot for my usage: 4 to 5hr
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Touchwiz Nougat VS. Lineage OS?

I need your best advise and/or suggestions. I've been a fan of custom ROMs and switching from Touchwiz Nougat (e.g. Nemesis Reborn) to Lineage OS to stock G900F firmware seems to be what I always do (am I the only one who does this?). I am undecided as to which software should I use as my daily driver. These ROMs are great and have their own pros and cons, but I've been annoyed of the fact that I keep switching ROMs which is somehow a waste of time and could even mess up my device in the future.

Touchwiz: The ultimate deciding factor for me is the stock S5 camera app. If you can find similar camera app on the Google Play Store that gives almost the same results let me know.

PabloVicenteWroar said:
Touchwiz: The ultimate deciding factor for me is the stock S5 camera app. If you can find similar camera app on the Google Play Store that gives almost the same results let me know.
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Have u tried footej camera?

What about VOLTE? (No support for non touchwiz)
Native 3g (gsm)native vedio call without internet?( No support for non touchwiz)
S view?

Abrilabr said:
Have u tried footej camera?
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Footej Camera has a great user interface but the quality of the photo it produces is not that good; noise, grain, blur -- those stuff. Also, it has no real FAST auto-focus. Essentialy, it just focuses continuously, but it does not really detect objects whether they are near or far. If it ever focuses into something, it's not that accurate, it's blurred.
The stock S5 camera app is not perfect, it does not have manual settings, but among all the camera apps for the S5, it is the best. That's why I'm sticking with a Touchwiz-based ROM.

iamcharlesjay said:
I need your best advise and/or suggestions. I've been a fan of custom ROMs and switching from Touchwiz Nougat (e.g. Nemesis Reborn) to Lineage OS to stock G900F firmware seems to be what I always do (am I the only one who does this?). I am undecided as to which software should I use as my daily driver. These ROMs are great and have their own pros and cons, but I've been annoyed of the fact that I keep switching ROMs which is somehow a waste of time and could even mess up my device in the future.
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I don't have G900F(I have G901F) but
Why choose,
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...nofficial-efidroid-samsung-galaxy-s5-t3580980
Your welcome,
Thank me later.....
This allows you to have 2 rooms on one phone.

hard decision. Stock touchwiz for better gaming performance and better camera (especially during low light and focus). Lineage os if you want a smooth ui experience and nougat features...

namthienvo said:
hard decision. Stock touchwiz for better gaming performance and better camera (especially during low light and focus). Lineage os if you want a smooth ui experience and nougat features...
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Exactly! ???

Touchwiz. Working smooth

I personally use an AOSP ROM (RR 5.8.2) for my Galaxy S5 (klte). I don't use the camera too often. Plus, the camera quality isn't as bad compared to stock ROM. As for gaming, I don't play games anymore on my phone since the top grossing Android games would force you to spend money to progress (usually) which isn't good. I just want my phone to look like how I want and experience smooth Android experience. But your mileage may vary.

Lineage Based:
-Better performance
-Touchwiz lacks the customization options I want
-Touchwiz feels bloated to me even with the debloated Note 7 or A7 firmware
-Latest version of Android
-The features in Touchwiz aren't very practical (I set up the edge panels and then proceeded to never use them, AOD drains the battery)
-Can have better battery life depending on which ROM / Kernel are used
-I have been happy with the quality from Open Camera
-The Lineage stock apps (other than file manager) are awesome

RipCityBassWorks said:
Lineage Based:
-Better performance
-Touchwiz lacks the customization options I want
-Touchwiz feels bloated to me even with the debloated Note 7 or A7 firmware
-Latest version of Android
-The features in Touchwiz aren't very practical (I set up the edge panels and then proceeded to never use them, AOD drains the battery)
-Can have better battery life depending on which ROM / Kernel are used
-I have been happy with the quality from Open Camera
-The Lineage stock apps (other than file manager) are awesome
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Thanks bro. I've decided to use lineage because of the same reasons.

Open camera has the same functions as stock sansung camera?
Blur background, etc ?
What customization are you using in lineage?
What kernel is good ? I have on stock lineage

cfsr4 said:
Open camera has the same functions as stock sansung camera?
Blur background, etc ?
What customization are you using in lineage?
What kernel is good ? I have on stock lineage
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No camera has the same features as stock Samsung camera.
Open Camera is the only 1 I have found that (IMO) takes similar quality photos and has good hdr plus many manual settings. It is also very stable.
I have been trying many different kernels lately:
Smartpack lite - was not happy with the battery life even though it is supposed to be a battery oriented kernel
Boeffla venom - have been using yankactive governor for a day and preliminary results are very good. Will be trying impulse and ondemandplus also.

RipCityBassWorks said:
No camera has the same features as stock Samsung camera.
Open Camera is the only 1 I have found that (IMO) takes similar quality photos and has good hdr plus many manual settings. It is also very stable.
I have been trying many different kernels lately:
Smartpack lite - was not happy with the battery life even though it is supposed to be a battery oriented kernel
Boeffla venom - have been using yankactive governor for a day and preliminary results are very good. Will be trying impulse and ondemandplus also.
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Thanks for answering. Recommend using Boeffla venom. I'm in the stock kernel

You guys wrote about Touchwiz Nougat but there is no 7.0 Nougat ROM Touchwiz based for G900F. Why?

nfs11 said:
You guys wrote about Touchwiz Nougat but there is no 7.0 Nougat ROM Touchwiz based for G900F. Why?
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just a mistake by his part
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nfs11 said:
You guys wrote about Touchwiz Nougat but there is no 7.0 Nougat ROM Touchwiz based for G900F. Why?
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just a mistake by his part. He meant nougat themed

namthienvo said:
just a mistake by his part
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just a mistake by his part. He meant nougat themed
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Ok, thanks.

you have tu try fv-camera
PabloVicenteWroar said:
Footej Camera has a great user interface but the quality of the photo it produces is not that good; noise, grain, blur -- those stuff. Also, it has no real FAST auto-focus. Essentialy, it just focuses continuously, but it does not really detect objects whether they are near or far. If it ever focuses into something, it's not that accurate, it's blurred.
The stock S5 camera app is not perfect, it does not have manual settings, but among all the camera apps for the S5, it is the best. That's why I'm sticking with a Touchwiz-based ROM.
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fv camera its amazing with almost total control manual mode inluded

TouchWiz is one of the most modified and conceivably heavy Stock Roms of native android between companies, but its interface is very flashy and intuitive, and the system is very sophisticated, giving an impression of exclusivity.
On the other hand, Lineage OS gets closer to pure Android, has a simpler, lightweight and stable interface, greater compatibility with third-party apps and greater flexibility to system modifications.
Note: Samsung's "Camera" app for example is much higher compared to the same "Camera" app available in Lineage OS, after all, the original app was designed for the original rom itself. If you decide to install Lineage OS, you can choose to use the "Cameringo" app available in the "Play Store", it's the best non-native camera app I know, but it's paid.
Recommendation: Keep using the latest official Stock Rom version available for your device. Only install Custom Roms (like Lineage OS) from android versions that are not officially available for your device model.

ROM suggestion for a S5 User

Hi,
My father is using my old S5 (KLTE) for about 2 years now. He's recently complaining about the performance (response and battery) of the phone. So I was in search for a price/performance phone to replace his S5.
But then I decided that in the old days, I was able to have better performance from my old Android phones by just changing the rom. (to a lite and recent version) together with a factory reset, I believe he will have better performance for at least a few more months while I find a better phone for him
So, I'd like to get your suggestions on a performance rom.
Preferably, I'd go with a touchwiz based rom because I don't want to change his familiarity of the interface. But I know that it (touchwiz) would mean loss of performance.
he's used to use video talk over the GSM so I believe this is only available in touchwiz , right ?
On the other hand, a lite rom with possibly Nougat (7.1.x) would be a good upgrade.
I can't select at the moment which path to go.
Can you recommend me best roms for each path ? (Touchwiz and Non-Touchwiz)
Thanks.

Currently I'm with the stock Marshmallow ROM from Samsung and it's pretty fast. You can check my signature for all the info about it. But I'll soon change to MagMa ROM VX3 (when it gets released) which is a port from the S8/Note 8. While still on Android 6.0.1 it has all the features and is lighter I think. Try out a few ROMs and see which one's the best. It all depends on apps installed, kernel used, disabled stuff, etc. In my opinion better to stay on TouchWiz since he's familiar with it. Plus non-touchwiz ROMs tend to have bugs.

I would like to know also if there is any custom rom than has better performance than the last stock one and has no bugs. I'm afraid that custom roms could have neither and add some extra features that won't compensate.
About the battery you can simply buy another one. That was the last Galaxy S to have a removable one and that is the main reason why I have not upgraded it. But I have the feeling the phone has become slower, even I have reset it.

Try these ROM. It is a TouchWiz Rom so I think your dad would like it. It is fast in terms of performance and battery life is okay. Works best with boeffla. Heres the link:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...om-xxx-limits-1-1-stable-smooth-fast-t3304941

Nardskie1999 said:
Try these ROM. It is a TouchWiz Rom so I think your dad would like it. It is fast in terms of performance and battery life is okay. Works best with boeffla. Heres the link:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...om-xxx-limits-1-1-stable-smooth-fast-t3304941
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But in what way is this better that the last stock one? And it has any disadvantage? (battery life, bugs etc that are usual in custom roms)
For me the bigger problem of the phone are not the features, that come mostly from the apps and they are the same. It is the performance as it always have a delay before starting any app that is not present in newer devices.
Even cheap devices as the Moto 5 has better performance, but the camera and the display is worse as the Galaxy S5 was a high end device making the upgrade a mix bag. Unless I go to more expensive devices. But the ideal would be a rom that optimize more the speed.

karlpj said:
But in what way is this better that the last stock one? And it has any disadvantage? (battery life, bugs etc that are usual in custom roms)
For me the bigger problem of the phone are not the features, that come mostly from the apps and they are the same. It is the performance as it always have a delay before starting any app that is not present in newer devices.
Even cheap devices as the Moto 5 has better performance, but the camera and the display is worse as the Galaxy S5 was a high end device making the upgrade a mix bag. Unless I go to more expensive devices. But the ideal would be a rom that optimize more the speed.
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So far so good. No problems or bugs at all. The performance of the Rom is absolutely amazing when it comes to games or whatever you are doing. I even got a 64000 score in Antutu Benchmark without overclocking. I think it is the most stablest Rom that I had to my galaxy s5.

My recomendation if you want fast its the Ressurection Remix 5.8.5...
Its the fastest rom I've tried no doubt

Sharlimar said:
My recomendation if you want fast its the Ressurection Remix 5.8.5...
Its the fastest rom I've tried no doubt
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But is buggy in any way? And what is the link for the rom? I have done a search and appears lots of different versions.
My s5 has the tendency to stall at the start of google maps and is rather slow with google assistant. Eventually I will buy one new but I would prefer a s9 (that is quite near) or s10

karlpj said:
But is buggy in any way? And what is the link for the rom? I have done a search and appears lots of different versions.
My s5 has the tendency to stall at the start of google maps and is rather slow with google assistant. Eventually I will buy one new but I would prefer a s9 (that is quite near) or s10
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I can tell you its that google maps its faster on rr 5.8.5 and on home screen you slide to the left and you are on google assistant so its great for you
You find the oficial rr rom on the oficial site
Search on google

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