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Using different charger

Hey guys, can I use a htc charger to charge the s2, I understand the output is different between s2 charger and htc charger, will it pose a problem to the battery?

no problem.
Some info:
A charger does not push a certain current either, the phone uses as much as it wants as long as it is same or less than the current rating on the charger.
And if the charger provides less than the phone wants, then the phone adapts to this as well.

Oki, if let's say the htc charger out is 1.0mah, and the samsung charger is 0.7mah, is it still alright to use the htc charger?

bryant_16 said:
Oki, if let's say the htc charger out is 1.0mah, and the samsung charger is 0.7mah, is it still alright to use the htc charger?
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Yes you can just look under your battery once removed on your serial label

Erm.. what to look for?
I only see 3.7V and 1650mAh.
That's all.

bryant_16 said:
Oki, if let's say the htc charger out is 1.0mah, and the samsung charger is 0.7mah, is it still alright to use the htc charger?
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No problem.
I'm charging my phone with the following chargers: 1.2A Nokia charger, 1A Nokia charger, 0.7A Samsung charger, 0.55A noname car charger, and some USB cables providing 0.5A.
And I also understand the electrical theory regarding this so this is ok both in practice and theory

tjtj4444 said:
No problem.
I'm charging my phone with the following chargers: 1.2A Nokia charger, 1A Nokia charger, 0.7A Samsung charger, 0.55A noname car charger, and some USB cables providing 0.5A.
And I also understand the electrical theory regarding this so this is ok both in practice and theory
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The higher the A rating, the faster the battery will charge, but this also will heat the battery more, reducing it's lifespan. Slower charges are annoying, but preferred for battery longevity.

Can I check what A rating is iphone charger? I'm planning to plug in microUsb to charge my s2 at work and leave the stock charger at home.
So want to check again, if 1A charger is suitable for S2?
Just to add on. When I'm charging my S2 using stock charger and playing grand prix story, the percentage of the battery actually decreased. Is it due to the 0.7A supplied by the stock charger?

bryant_16 said:
Can I check what A rating is iphone charger? I'm planning to plug in microUsb to charge my s2 at work and leave the stock charger at home.
So want to check again, if 1A charger is suitable for S2?
Just to add on. When I'm charging my S2 using stock charger and playing grand prix story, the percentage of the battery actually decreased. Is it due to the 0.7A supplied by the stock charger?
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The phone only allows 650mA? or so into the battery, so anything above that is usually wasted. If you're playing graphically intensive or CPU intensive games most likely the charge rate can't match the drain rate, so slower charging or draining in your case.

S2 only allows 650mA? So even if I have a 1A charger, it won't be able to charge up fast too?

bryant_16 said:
S2 only allows 650mA? So even if I have a 1A charger, it won't be able to charge up fast too?
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No it won't charge it faster.
Sent from my SK17i using xda premium

I use my gfs HTC charger, mines fine

You can use any charger but, from what I've heard, if the output is higher than what is recommended for your phone, the battery life will be reduced.

donalgodon said:
The higher the A rating, the faster the battery will charge, but this also will heat the battery more, reducing it's lifespan. Slower charges are annoying, but preferred for battery longevity.
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This is not quite true.
The voltage of mini USB type chargers should always be 5volts. The current rating (amps) varies depending on the charger. Using a charger to charge a device to with a current rating lower than the current rating of the charger will make no difference. However using a charger to charge a device that requires a higher charging current could result it the device taking a longer time to charge and may not fully charge at all.
So most chargers will be fine to charge your phone. However if the charger current rating (amperes) is too low, you may find that if your using your phone while charging you could find the the battery will charge very slowly or even discharge (more likely when using something like navigation app). Both circumstances will make no difference to the health of the battery.

Can I charge NExus 7 with a 5V 1A charger ?

Bought my Nexus in the US this summer, really enjoy this little beast.
I have a question regarding charging. The provided charger is a 5V- 2A charger but a US one. I have at home a HTC one X charger which delivers 5V - 1A. Can I use this charger ? What is the difference between 1A & 2A ?
Thx, Yves

yves.alexis said:
Bought my Nexus in the US this summer, really enjoy this little beast.
I have a question regarding charging. The provided charger is a 5V- 2A charger but a US one. I have at home a HTC one X charger which delivers 5V - 1A. Can I use this charger ? What is the difference between 1A & 2A ?
Thx, Yves
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I don't see how less amps would hurt it. It may not register a charge, or charge very slowly. I would wait for another opinion.

2A will charge faster than the 1A charger. That's the only difference.

thedauntlessone said:
2A will charge faster than the 1A charger. That's the only difference.
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OK, thank you

On the flip side, can I use my N7 charger to charge my mobile (SG2)?
My SG2 charger is set for 0.7A, while the N7 charger is set at 2A.

Mine charges with the USB cable i use to transfer files, which is about 500mA. Works but slow.

checking around the net, that's what it say.
the USB port have a maximum of 500mA i believe. And i did noticed it tend to charge more slowly. While the provided Asus charger with USB port on it, it have 2000mA (or 2A). So i guess the Nexus 7 is made to be able to support up to 2000mA, while it will charge more slowly when connected to a computer's USB port.
I took out my PSP and its charger recently, and this charger is also 5V, 2000mA, except it's a round tip made to fit the PSP charging port.
I do have another 2000mA charger, it also have a round tip, luckily it fit on my Ainol Elf II tablet. I got this charger/power supply when i bought my HDMI switcher, it work without it, so it was sitting there for all this time, unused.
i'm gonna try charging it with the provided Asus charger now.

browngeek said:
On the flip side, can I use my N7 charger to charge my mobile (SG2)?
My SG2 charger is set for 0.7A, while the N7 charger is set at 2A.
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Yes. Your phone will not charge at the same rate as the N7, however.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

About AC adapter and its amperage

Hi all,
Ok, so I finally managed to order a 16Gb Nexus 4 and hopefully it will be with me in 1 week or so.
And I was wondering one thing regarding the AC adapter: I believe (pls correct me if I am wrong) that the original AC adapter’s output voltage is DC 5V, 1.2A.
I will need an extra AC adapter to keep it at work and I was planning to use one of those:
- The Sony Xperia P AC adapter will output 5V, 1,5A
- The Samsung Galaxy S AC adapter will output 5V, 0,7A
It is clear that neither of those 2 chargers will match exactly the specifications of the original Nexus charger (same voltage, but different amperage).
So, here goes the questions:
1) Is there any problem if I use a charger that will output the same voltage but with different amperage?... if not, which one would you use and why?.
2) how the amperage affect to the charging process?.
Thanks all in advance
PS: sorry for terrible English

You can use any charger up to 2 amps.
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Evergreen74 said:
Hi all,
Ok, so I finally managed to order a 16Gb Nexus 4 and hopefully it will be with me in 1 week or so.
And I was wondering one thing regarding the AC adapter: I believe (pls correct me if I am wrong) that the original AC adapter’s output voltage is DC 5V, 1.2A.
I will need an extra AC adapter to keep it at work and I was planning to use one of those:
- The Sony Xperia P AC adapter will output 5V, 1,5A
- The Samsung Galaxy S AC adapter will output 5V, 0,7A
It is clear that neither of those 2 chargers will match exactly the specifications of the original Nexus charger (same voltage, but different amperage).
So, here goes the questions:
1) Is there any problem if I use a charger that will output the same voltage but with different amperage?... if not, which one would you use and why?.
2) how the amperage affect to the charging process?.
Thanks all in advance
PS: sorry for terrible English
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You must use a 5V AC USB Adapter and better no LESS than 1A
for Fast Charge.
AC Adapter I Use:
iPad AC Adapter 5V 2.1A at Work
PlayBook AC Adapter 5V 1.8A at Home 1
Original Nexus 4 AC 5V 1.2A at Home 2.
Our Nexus 4 will Draw around 0.8A when Batt lever at 0% - 80%,
then around 0.5A at 80%-95%, Final State 95%-100% will draw 0.2A roughly.
When 100%, Nexus 4 will use the AC power & the Current "A" show on phone
will like 2mA (0.002A) when idling.
** 1A = 1000mA

As previous poster said, do not go under 1.2amp.
I run the OEM charger in my bed room, a USB charger to my computer, and a 2.1amp charger in the car.

Sfkn2 said:
As previous poster said, do not go under 1.2amp.
I run the OEM charger in my bed room, a USB charger to my computer, and a 2.1amp charger in the car.
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Why do you say not to go under 1.2A? Charging from a laptop is at .5A. I've been using a 1A charger since day one. Haven't experienced any issues with it.
Charging at a lower amperage shouldn't hurt anything, just charge slower. All you have to do is make sure it's a 5V charger. Amperage shouldn't matter but a lower amp charger will charge slower. As for a higher amp charger, the phone will only draw the amount of power it needs to charge so using 2A charger won't hurt anything either.

Also 2mA is 0.002A not 0.02 A

wilsonlam97 said:
You can use any charger up to 2 amps.
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Since the charger doesn't actually regulate the charging itself (the phone does this) it doesn't matter how many amps it can supply, could be 100 amps, no worries. As long as it is 5V, the phone will draw as many amps as it needs.
Since the supplied charger is 1.2A rated, it's fair to assume that the phone will never actually try to draw any more than that, so there will be no benefit in going higher.
Going for a lower current charger will likely extend the charge time.

I use a 2.1 amp daily without any issues.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

Wow guys!!... thanks all for your answers!!
So, if I understood correctly, the amperage will only affect to the charging time, meaning that by using the Xperia P AC adapter (1,5A) the battery will be charged faster that using the Galaxy S one (0,7A)... right?
Pls allow one last question: a few yeard ago, I think I read in some forums that a slower charging process could help to keep the batteries in the best conditions for a longer time... is this still true with modern batteries??
Again, THANKS all for your help!!

Evergreen74 said:
Wow guys!!... thanks all for your answers!!
So, if I understood correctly, the amperage will only affect to the charging time, meaning that by using the Xperia P AC adapter (1,5A) the battery will be charged faster that using the Galaxy S one (0,7A)... right?
Pls allow one last question: a few yeard ago, I think I read in some forums that a slower charging process could help to keep the batteries in the best conditions for a longer time... is this still true with modern batteries??
Again, THANKS all for your help!!
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Yes, the .7A charger will take a little longer to charge you phone.
On the other answer, I think NO but I'm not as familiar with LiPo batteries. I would venture to say that .7A vs 1.2A (max the phone will draw but I think someone above mentioned it's even less than that when the battery is very low) is not going to make a bit of difference in your battery life.
One thing I do know about LiPo's is you do not trickle charge them. So while plugged in it will charge at the rates mentioned above until full and then it QUITS charging all together. Once the phone discharges the battery to a certain level, it will charge it back up again. Probably at 98-99%.

There may be one other thing to consider when selecting a third party charger. In the Nexus 7, the device looks for pins 2 & 3 (data) of the USB plug to be shorted in order for it to draw full current. If this pins are open (or have a load across them as is the case with iPhone/iPad chargers), the Nexus 7 will assume it is plugged into a computer and limit its draw to 500MA.
Not certain the Nexus 4 behaves the same way but would assume so.

setzer715 said:
Yes, the .7A charger will take a little longer to charge you phone.
On the other answer, I think NO but I'm not as familiar with LiPo batteries. I would venture to say that .7A vs 1.2A (max the phone will draw but I think someone above mentioned it's even less than that when the battery is very low) is not going to make a bit of difference in your battery life.
One thing I do know about LiPo's is you do not trickle charge them. So while plugged in it will charge at the rates mentioned above until full and then it QUITS charging all together. Once the phone discharges the battery to a certain level, it will charge it back up again. Probably at 98-99%.
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setzer715, thanks for the answer... I think I will be using the Xperia P charger at work...
Thanks all for your help!!

I want to make this case clear. According to my Charging log,
Here is some key point.
Nexus 4 Max Draw Rate at Fast Charge Mode is around 800-900mA,
even you use a Charger that rated at 1A (iPhone Tofu), 1.2A (Original),
1.8A (Playbook), 2.1A (iPad).
Fast Charge Mode must be with Charging Cable with 2&3 pin Shorted,
or the charger itself have the 2&3 pin already shorted.
Therefore, 1A is a Sweet spot for getting Charger & Charging Time for
Li-Po/Li-Ion/Ni-MH Batt charging.
If you use under 1A Charger, eg 700mA or 500mA, it will take much longer
to charge the batt but no harm as well. Just too slow only.

The stock charger that came with my phone sucks, I use one from my epic 4g touch (gs2)and it charges much better
DEVICE: Nexus 4
KERNEL: Franco r95
ROM: PROJECT Extinct Life Event

jlear3 said:
The stock charger that came with my phone sucks,
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Why you say so...? What's wrong with it...?

Talon88 said:
Why you say so...? What's wrong with it...?
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Left a phone on a charger all night with a long (10ft) cable and it couldn't even charge the phone over night. I know a 10ft cable will slow things down but my gs2 plug has no problem charging my phone. Search around and you'll find a few fail stories about the stock LG charger.
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Aftermarket chargers

I have a question regarding chargers and the amps they put out.
While the stock wall charger is a 1amp charger, will a 2.1A charger damage the battery in my Nexus 4? I know 2.1 is usually for tablets, portable gaming systems, but does it damage our cell phone batteries, or just charge them faster?
thanks

mzeigler1 said:
I have a question regarding chargers and the amps they put out.
While the stock wall charger is a 1amp charger, will a 2.1A charger damage the battery in my Nexus 4? I know 2.1 is usually for tablets, portable gaming systems, but does it damage our cell phone batteries, or just charge them faster?
thanks
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2.1A just means it _can_ output a maximum of 2.1A
But the Phone itself will "decide" how much current it draws for charging.
So no need to worry, it will not damage the battery. But it will very likely also not charge it faster.
I myself also used different chargers including the higher amp one from the Nexus 7.

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You saw no difference in charging time compared to the 1 amp charger?

mzeigler1 said:
You saw no difference in charging time compared to the 1 amp charger?
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I did not specifically think about it...I can test some other time right now my phone is fully charged.
But I guess the charger is adopted to the maximum charge current the phone can use.

I believe the phone can pull more than 1A if the charger is capable of delivering a higher amperage
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Thanks for the help guys! It worked.

[Q] Note 4 Car Charging?

Hey guys,
I just plugged my note 4 into my car charger (anker charger, oem note 4 cable) and couldn't get it to charge. It charges my note 3 no problem.
I also have no problems charging my note 4 with wall chargers.
Any help?

I've got the "Anker® 18W / 3.6A Car Charger with Built-in Micro USB Cord for Android" and it's actually CHARGING my Note 4 when using GPS navigation and playing music! My Note 2 wouldn't charge, but it would hold charge under the same conditions.
What model charger are you using?

EP2008 said:
I've got the "Anker® 18W / 3.6A Car Charger with Built-in Micro USB Cord for Android" and it's actually CHARGING my Note 4 when using GPS navigation and playing music! My Note 2 wouldn't charge, but it would hold charge under the same conditions.
What model charger are you using?
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I actually can't find it on the charger itself or even Amazon. It's relatively new, I thought it was a 2.0/2.1 amp charger (2x USB). Definitely Anker though.

clanderson said:
I actually can't find it on the charger itself or even Amazon. It's relatively new, I thought it was a 2.0/2.1 amp charger (2x USB). Definitely Anker though.
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Are you using both usb's at the same time? If so, it's splitting the power, so you'll get a slow charge.

EP2008 said:
Are you using both usb's at the same time? If so, it's splitting the power, so you'll get a slow charge.
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Sorry, I should have specified - the only thing plugged into the charger is my Note 4.
Shoot, maybe I just need to grab another charger. Thought I made a good decision with that Anker.
Thanks for your reply by the way

clanderson said:
Sorry, I should have specified - the only thing plugged into the charger is my Note 4.
Shoot, maybe I just need to grab another charger. Thought I made a good decision with that Anker.
Thanks for your reply by the way
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If you get the one I listed, it works for sure. Great charger and it's been the only one my wife hasn't been able to destroy. :laugh:

Will the car charger also do the 50% in 30min charging ?

ilordvader said:
Will the car charger also do the 50% in 30min charging ?
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Doubt it. You need a special charger for that.
Sent from my SM-N910U

EP2008 said:
Doubt it. You need a special charger for that.
Sent from my SM-N910U
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Do you know if there's one available that will do that as of right now?

Costas86 said:
Do you know if there's one available that will do that as of right now?
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No idea, but if there were to be one, I'd imagine that Samsung would have it first.

EP2008 said:
No idea, but if there were to be one, I'd imagine that Samsung would have it first.
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Hmm.. this mentions rapid charging, I wonder if it's as fast as the wall charger
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ECA-U21CBEBXAR

The only chargers that work with the new fast charging technology are ones that are purpose built and have the ability to switch between 9V and 5V,they are quite uncommon.

I have this charger http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D82O68Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and it charges my note 4 while running Waze and tethering my Radar Detector via Bluetooth (which also uses GPS)....and it charges my wife's S5 at the same time

Using an afer market 2.1a charger and an S3 cable, charges just fine.

ilordvader said:
Will the car charger also do the 50% in 30min charging ?
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EP2008 said:
Doubt it. You need a special charger for that.
Sent from my SM-N910U
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I believe Samsung has stated it's a 9v charger instead of the conventional 5v charger.

Did some more research and found this:
http://www.incipio.com/chargers/car-chargers/quick-charge-2-0-single-port-usb-charger.html#
From the Engadget review, "I clarified with Samsung that it chose a proprietary solution instead of licensing Qualcomm's QuickCharge tech, but it insisted that you could still use QuickCharge 2.0-compatible chargers to achieve the same results."
Also from http://www.samsung.com/sa_en/support/skp/faq/1063730?CID=AFL-hq-mul-0813-11000170
[FAQs] Smart Phone : Galaxy Note 4- To use fast charging, what kind of charger should be used?
Fast charging uses battery charging technology that charges the
battery faster by increasing the charging power. The Galaxy Note 4
device supports Samsung’s Adaptive Fast Charging feature and
Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0.
To use Fast charging on your device, connect it to a battery charger
that supports Adaptive Fast Charging or Quick Charge 2.0.
Hope that helps someone, credit goes to the users over at http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...-charger-supports-fast-charging-note-4-a.html