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I have a really bad signal strength on my note 3 and would like to try flashing another modem/baseband.
Just wondering if its an risk that all data will be lost when flashing new modem/baseband?

Camela said:
I have a really bad signal strength on my note 3 and would like to try flashing another modem/baseband.
Just wondering if its an risk that all data will be lost when flashing new modem/baseband?
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No but don t forget to save efs....but back up is always a good idea?

Try to move to another area or have another phone to compare the signal strength?
I don't think the modem can cause the issue

Absolutely no trolling here, please. I need to choose between lg g2 and note3. Only fear is all the issues I've read about the note 3 signal and wifi. Actually I would like to get the n3 but I live in a poor signal area (also I work in poor signal area) and I really don't want to have problems with signal.Some friend living same block have the G2 and the signal is very good and stable. I gor scared of all the issues read about n3, although it is my favorite.
Please, I need honest opinion about N3 signal strength and if wifi is as poor as many forums stated. Tks....

Yes I have compared with other mobile devices in same places with same provider, suddenly note 3 can drop to no signal when the other devices still have good signal.

Camela said:
Yes I have compared with other mobile devices in same places with same provider, suddenly note 3 can drop to no signal when the other devices still have good signal.
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Thank you, Indeed very strange signal behavior. I also compared the signal between N3 and G2 in same location and same provider. And I didn't care about the signal lines but the measurement with Speednet.apk. The results made me sad regarding the N3, which was my favorite.
Also I observed that wifi is much less powerful and drops many times, even after all the tricks I've made, when the G2 was constant and no drops at all.
Again, NO TROLLING HERE, but I am very sad to see that N3, otherwise a very nice terminal, is very weak on an elementary thing--signal.
I also made the same tests with different N3 and same thing. I will wait N4 and see if anything will be corrected.
Thanks...

I personally don't have any problem with signal strength in my Note3.
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Poor radio

Anyone else notice that the radio in the Note 4 sucks for LTE? My previous phone was a HTC One M8 and I got 4G everywhere in my city full time. With the Note 4, my 4G connection is unstable at work. Instead of it being a weak -100+ dBm signal, it is actually usually around -75 allot, then it fluctuates to around -88 to -105, then it falls to 3G. The transfer rate also isn't that great at 6-8 Mbps.
At home, I have a constant -105 signal but at least it never loses 4G connection and has a decent 20-25 Mbps download speed. My prior phone was around -80 to -90 range.
Makes me want to switch to an IPhone Plus, Droid Turbo, or Nexus 6... No idea if any will be available within 14 days. .
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By default the global network is on. Try switching it to LTE only. It's solid on mine.

No issues with mine. Just as good as the last several Verizon phones I've had (S5, M8, 5S).

Mine seems better than the Note 3.. just fyi.

I've had incredible signal with mine. Our house is on the outskirts of 4G and my m8 got between 106 and 115 dbm. But my note gets at most 111, and constantly below 105 in most of my house. Solid and we'll above expected signal strength here.

pyaa said:
By default the global network is on. Try switching it to LTE only. It's solid on mine.
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Just switched to LTE, restarted the phone...Signal is much stronger. thanks man
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So far best radio ive used to date
Edit: i was on global too lol

I switched from global to LTE and also removed my SIM card for a few minutes before turning it back on. Seems a bit better but still testing in more problematic areas.
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Seems the exact same as the S3 and S4, so not real good or real bad. Somewhere in the middle.

Used to have HTC One M8, now Note 4. Radio seems to be better.

rushless said:
Seems the exact same as the S3 and S4, so not real good or real bad. Somewhere in the middle.
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I was hoping that it would be better than the S3. My S3s have poor radios at best. It's the only thing that I dislike about my S3.

Seems a little better than my m8 sitting in the exact same spot in my house.

usmaak said:
I was hoping that it would be better than the S3. My S3s have poor radios at best. It's the only thing that I dislike about my S3.
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Ditto on the GS3. I figured two years later, they would to have had to get better radios by now. Oh well... My note hasn't arrived yet. I know with Moto and HTC I get signal in places I don''t with a Samsung. I've got used to the less than great signal with the Samsung that I'll try to not sweat over it.

I'm getting a better signal on the N4 than I did on the S3. I now have 4G signal at work where on my S3 I only got a weak 3G.

Mines much better actually but I'm coming from an S3.

We were at the dinner table where my friend's 6 Plus was oos and my Note 4 had 1 bar. Hahaha!
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seems better than note 2.

Things got MUCH better once I switched from Global mode to LTE/CDMA. Thanks!

Just switched to lte from global.. I wonder why the default is global?

100% agree. I was getting so pissed at my Note 3... I would drop calls all the time and now I don't in the same exact areas.

How are the radios?

How's everyone's reception been? Compared to a galaxy s4 or any other phone you had prior. Better? Worse?
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I had the Note 4 before getting this and I've noticed it to be around 4 to 6 dBM worse. WiFi is noticeably weaker as well. I have the 64GB variant.

One reason I purchased this phone was the supposed better radios of Motorola. It is noticeably worse than the Samsung Note 4 and HTC One M8. I wish I could just go back to my M8 but that is impossible without repurchasing one and wasting my Edge ;p. I never lost 4G with my M8 while I lost 4G with the Note 4 in a few areas and many times with the Droid Turbo today. Very disappointed in the radio performance, will try again tomorrow with new Sim Card, but I think I might be screwed. The phone is stable at my home and slightly better than the Note 4 here. At work is where I had all the trouble.

jrcbandit said:
One reason I purchased this phone was the supposed better radios of Motorola. It is noticeably worse than the Samsung Note 4 and HTC One M8. I wish I could just go back to my M8 but that is impossible without repurchasing one and wasting my Edge ;p. I never lost 4G with my M8 while I lost 4G with the Note 4 in a few areas and many times with the Droid Turbo today. Very disappointed in the radio performance, will try again tomorrow with new Sim Card, but I think I might be screwed.
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I'd wait a few weeks before doing anything drastic. As with any new phone, there will likely be some software bugs to address that may affect signal in the first few weeks.

I can attest for certain the Radio is MUCH better than any phone that I have had. (S4,S5,One M8, Note 4, iPhone6 etc)
My experience that is much different -is a 20 Mile stretch of road to my Home. I live in Fringe Reception area in Norther California (Foresthill) I haven't ever been able to drive the 20 Mile Stretch home without dropping a phone call.( This usually happens numerous times) With The Turbo I was able to stay connected to Verizon Customer Service the Entire 20 Miles to my Home!
The only Bummer about this experience is that I was on the Phone with Verizon regarding the lack of Simul Data! What a complete ****ter! This is something that I will give props to Apple about. The day the iPhone 6 was released the phone could use VOLTE . Kind horse **** that a Flagship VZ Moto exclusive device doesnt have the proper software to use VOLTE on release.

scooby-snack said:
I can attest for certain the Radio is MUCH better than any phone that I have had. (S4,S5,One M8, Note 4, iPhone6 etc)
My experience that is much different -is a 20 Mile stretch of road to my Home. I live in Fringe Reception area in Norther California (Foresthill) I haven't ever been able to drive the 20 Mile Stretch home without dropping a phone call.( This usually happens numerous times) With The Turbo I was able to stay connected to Verizon Customer Service the Entire 20 Miles to my Home!
The only Bummer about this experience is that I was on the Phone with Verizon regarding the lack of Simul Data! What a complete ****ter! This is something that I will give props to Apple about. The day the iPhone 6 was released the phone could use VOLTE . Kind horse **** that a Flagship VZ Moto exclusive device doesnt have the proper software to use VOLTE on release.
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Good to hear, so is it a guarantee that when it gets VOLTE it will have Simultaneous data tand voice on every phone call? Also which version of the turbo did u get as far as material.

I purchased the 32GB Red (Carbon) <- thinking about getting the black LOL.
It's for sure a software issue with the phone. My iPhone 6 was able to access VOLTE the day of release in my area. It's unreal that VZ & Moto wouldn't require the feature to be working on release date. It appears to be an issue with the 2014 Moto X as well from what I have been reading
I will say the phone is incredibly snappy, and smooth in performance. I can only imagine how the performance will be when we get L on the phone.
PS. Haven't had enough time to compare the WIFI performance but that is usually not a problem for me anyways- I have 4 Ubiquiti Access Points installed at my home. The way the system works is each wifi AP hands off the WIFI signal simultaneously from one AP to another- all without interrupting whatever you may be streaming The most important item to me is my Cell Reception and a huge Bonus that I can stay connected driving the 20 mile stretch home.
-Scoob

As far as mobile data is concerned, seems to be about the same or slightly better than my G3, however WiFi is significantly worse.
DROID Turbo 1x and WiFi:
LG G3 1x and WiFi:
DROID Turbo LTE:
LG G3 LTE:

Wifi signals are WAY down compared to my other devices which include iphone 5S, 6, HTC One M8, Note II, Note 3, Galaxy S5...
Have the 64GB black nylon one.
I'll have to try outdoors. We have a long range wifi extender to cover a large section of the pasture and all my other devices get a decent signal up to 1km away. This will be a good test.
I had a carbon fiber case on my S5 (Cygnett IIRC) that blocked the LTE signal really bad. That's the disadvantage to having real carbon fiber LOL.
Not sure about the ballistic nylon. Does it have CF in it?
I wish the back came off, I have a friend who's an RF test engineer and he could see if it has attenuation in the (un) desired ranges.

cpufrost said:
Wifi signals are WAY down compared to my other devices which include iphone 5S, 6, HTC One M8, Note II, Note 3, Galaxy S5...
Have the 64GB black nylon one.
I'll have to try outdoors. We have a long range wifi extender to cover a large section of the pasture and all my other devices get a decent signal up to 1km away. This will be a good test.
I had a carbon fiber case on my S5 (Cygnett IIRC) that blocked the LTE signal really bad. That's the disadvantage to having real carbon fiber LOL.
Not sure about the ballistic nylon. Does it have CF in it?
I wish the back came off, I have a friend who's an RF test engineer and he could see if it has attenuation in the (un) desired ranges.
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Looking forward to hearing the results of your outdoor test. And while you're out there, can you check on how readable the screen is in direct sunlight?

scooby-snack said:
I can attest for certain the Radio is MUCH better than any phone that I have had. (S4,S5,One M8, Note 4, iPhone6 etc)
My experience that is much different -is a 20 Mile stretch of road to my Home. I live in Fringe Reception area in Norther California (Foresthill) I haven't ever been able to drive the 20 Mile Stretch home without dropping a phone call.( This usually happens numerous times) With The Turbo I was able to stay connected to Verizon Customer Service the Entire 20 Miles to my Home!
The only Bummer about this experience is that I was on the Phone with Verizon regarding the lack of Simul Data! What a complete ****ter! This is something that I will give props to Apple about. The day the iPhone 6 was released the phone could use VOLTE . Kind horse **** that a Flagship VZ Moto exclusive device doesnt have the proper software to use VOLTE on release.
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There is a big difference between holding on to a phone call and getting good data (4G).
Do you get a good 4G signal also? Thanks

My signal not so good with Droid Turbo
I have had around -105 dbm 4G LTE which is 2 bars and have had a few times where I had 3 bars. Normally in the same area I would have 4 to 5 bars. I also had a time where I tried to make a call and it was on 1x when I was in a big city where there is 4G towers. After the call it went to 4G. I sure hope we all get this issue fixed. Other than this issue most everything has been great.

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I have had around -105 dbm 4G LTE which is 2 bars and have had a few times where I had 3 bars. Normally in the same area I would have 4 to 5 bars. I also had a time where I tried to make a call and it was on 1x when I was in a big city where there is 4G towers. After the call it went to 4G. I sure hope we all get this issue fixed. Other than this issue most everything has been great.
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Man that sucks the big one. The bars you are seeing are probably 3g or 1x voice signal. Which still sucks if you download an app called advanced signal it will tell you exactly what is going on. I'm defiantly gonna hold off until it gets solved. I have to pay full retail as I am on unlimited Thanks for your input.

My LTE and Wifi strength are also down.
Siting in my office, I used to get full bars of wifi reception on my DNA. Now its at 2 bars. Same goes for my LTE signal.
I'll do some actual testing later, but I hope this gets resolved quickly

Yeah the wifi is killing me. It's incredibly noticeable in various parts of my house that I used to have stellar wifi.

I've had LTE where my M8 struggled to even get 3G. I'm quite pleased with the signal.

I've had better LTE and 3G reception versus my S3. Seems like calls sound better. Better (quicker acquisition, less drops) GPS performance as well. Wifi signal reception seems to be on par. Both phones in the same room a few feet apart, are within 1-2dBm of each other. I haven't tested performance, or compared client statistics on my wireless controller yet.

Signal
Has anyone tried just taking the phone on the road and checking signals not bars but 3G or 4G. If the phone doesnt have voice and internet at the same time that would explain why the phone would go to 1X when your on a call then back up when you get off. If you out and about do you have 4G where you did with previous phones not bars but 4G? The bars on my Droid Maxx tell me what my voice signal strength is not 4G I believe it is the same with the turbo. The WIFI deal Im cluless if it doesnt connect then it doesnt connect. again though it doesnt depend on howmany bars you have. It is how the phone performs. Im in a real crap signal area I can have 1X on my Maxx and still be able to make calls and text because I may have only one bar on the phone. Thanks

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Has anyone tried just taking the phone on the road and checking signals not bars but 3G or 4G. If the phone doesnt have voice and internet at the same time that would explain why the phone would go to 1X when your on a call then back up when you get off. If you out and about do you have 4G where you did with previous phones not bars but 4G? The bars on my Droid Maxx tell me what my voice signal strength is not 4G I believe it is the same with the turbo. The WIFI deal Im cluless if it doesnt connect then it doesnt connect. again though it doesnt depend on howmany bars you have. It is how the phone performs. Im in a real crap signal area I can have 1X on my Maxx and still be able to make calls and text because I may have only one bar on the phone. Thanks
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Look back a few pages, I posted dBm readings between phones. I agree though, comparing bars is useless.

Just figured I'd chime in. I swapped my kevlar version for the normal version and my wifi is back to the same strength that my G2 had. There was definitely something wrong with the kevlar one I had...

Poor reception/signal strength

Has anybody else experienced poor signal quality?
I'm using the dual SIM H990DS on Telenet in Belgium.
Indoors at home my Nexus 6 had at least some reception, but the V20 does not. I need to place it next to a window for it to have a network signal.
It's not only at home. I compared with my wife's Nexus 6 earlier today when we were out and this confirmed it...
Any solutions?

Same experience
I just got my V20 about 5 days ago and have had the same issue you described. My wifes V10 get about 30% better signal strength in just about every room of our house. Most of the time I can't even connect to the 4G LTE network. At first I thought it was my case but the difference is negligible without it. It was interesting though because I moved from T-Mobile to Verizon and had my number ported while I had the temp number it seemed as though the strength was equal but since porting I am in this boat. Not sure if it was just coincidence or not. I will be taking it in today to see if there anything they can do. I'll update as needed.

I have the same issue with my LG V20 phone. The reception/signal strength is horrible. Callers constantly complain that my phone goes in an out, making it difficult to maintain a conversation. Bluetooth connectivity is also an issue as connecting the device requires multiple attempts. This phone is becoming useless due to the reception and Bluetooth connectivity issues. I will continue to use my Samsung Galaxy Note 4 as a backup. I have never experienced any such issues while using the Samsung device. Hopefully the developers at LG are taking notes and a fix/update will be released before 2017.

I have also noticed that signal strength is a bit weaker with the V20 in areas my Note5 had great coverage. Both on AT&T.

I'm noticing the reverse: I'm getting about 1 bar better in comparison to my Note 4.

Glad to hear I'm not the only one... I'm waiting for a software update (still nothing). Hope this can fix the issues.
Shouldn't happen on a phone this price...

Yep,between the note 7 being a fire hazard and now these ridiculous connectivity issues on my v20 I'm ready to go apple

Bluetooth and telephony are fine here. Carrier and or case and or device issues I'd wager first

Similar problems with my Verizon V20. Signal reception is significantly worse than my old Note 3 and my wife's Droid Turbo 2. FWIW, no case on the V20.
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I find the signal reception poorer than my Moto X Pure Edition, at least when LTE is enabled.
When it comes to the reception, is it a question of software or hardware ? I mean is there a chance it can be fixed through an update ?

Same here, it is very poor.

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When it comes to the reception, is it a question of software or hardware ? I mean is there a chance it can be fixed through an update ?
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There isn't enough data, but based on the small sample size of people with complaints, I'd guess it was hardware. Every issue like this about which I have read has been a loose connection.
You might want to take your phone to a depot and have it looked at. And, to be honest, if it is just a loose connection, you are far better off to have them fix that then to get a replacement phone of unknown history.

My T-Mobile V20 is a lot better than my t mobile Note 4 in both reception and call quality in places with poor signal. At a particular Walmart my Note 4 didn't work 50 ft through the door. My v20 will not only work but I can hold on to a phone call until the very middle of the store, then it drops the call but I can redial and continue. I'm very impressed so far.
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Im also impressed with reception. Way better than my n4.

add me to the list my call quality is poor and it recently just started. It's very choppy

I know this is sorta old. But I have swapped my phone 3 times. and sim 3 times. I am on t-mobile and i have 2 bars everywhere. I am running roughly -112dbm everywhere. I drop a lot of calls. I am debating on just returning the phone. cause I still have 4 days.

does anyone have wifi calling on ? I have notice that when wifie calling is on call quality can go from one end to the other. it was great when i first got it now i have wifi calling off unless i have no signal.

Signal quality has been fantastic for me in Florida. Came from a note 4. Signal and call quality has been awesome. Never had a dropped call yet and my house is a cellular black hole for some reason. I leave wifi calling (default settings) on as well if that matters

I'm in the same boat

I had bought the AT&T version (manufacture date of March 2017) about two months ago. Seemed to get okay reception at home, but work was a dead zone. It would switch from LTE to 4G to Edge and then nothing. I could stream on Tunein for a minute before losing signal. Traveling through town, I was usually at -125 to -135 dBm. My V10, which I kept, had no issues what so ever so I returned the V20.
I was, however still enamored with the V20, and saw the unlocked version, used, on a website for under $300. Got it this week and the signal seemed to hover around -110 to -120, under Global Network setting. Turned off the LTE enhanced voice and it went down to -85 for two minutes then back up. Switched to LTE/CDMA no change. Switched to LTE/Legacy and no real change. Finally tried UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ and network signal strength has been sitting at -52 to -57.
It is a shame LTE does not really work on this phone, otherwise it would be perfect. As long as the signal strength holds on, I will not return this one. I needed something a bit newer and really wanted a dual camera capability. I was going to hold out for the V30, but with rumors that it won't have a replaceable battery, I figured I would just wait a bit longer.

In Building Connections?

Hello,
I have had my Pro 3 since if first launched..
Noticed I lose connections, No bars on my Phone in Large Buildings.. Like a movie theater or Or at Work!!..
I noticed other ppl use their phone at work..
I have T Mobile Network... I'm wondering is it the phone or my network.. I think it had all the bands for T mobile?
Anyone else experience this?

I'm also on T-Mobile, but haven't had any issues with connectivity. My voice and data coverage seem pretty much the same as when I was using my Samsung Galaxy S6 before I bought the Pro 3. I have noticed that in buildings, I often have a very different experience than other people who are with other carriers, though. Sometimes better, sometimes worse, but overall, I've found this phone to work very well on T-Mobile in my area.
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I'm also on T-Mobile, but haven't had any issues with connectivity. My voice and data coverage seem pretty much the same as when I was using my Samsung Galaxy S6 before I bought the Pro 3. I have noticed that in buildings, I often have a very different experience than other people who are with other carriers, though. Sometimes better, sometimes worse, but overall, I've found this phone to work very well on T-Mobile in my area.
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This device, for me atleast, holds onto a edge-of-signal connection a bit longer than my Galaxy s7. My sister's house is in an area where T-Mobile doesn't cover very well but I'll hold onto an HSPA+ (4G, not LTE) connection all throughout the house before dropping to Edge while my GS7 (when I had one) would drop to Edge. Although when you're in a good coverage area, the GS7 beats Le Pro3 very consistently with speed.

I will add that Le Pro3 is still no slouch on LTE in terms of speed either.