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Official 4.2 update discussion.

Hi.
I saw official launch of mega series on samsung site.
Mega 5.8 and 6.3 are using dual core processor with 1 gb of ram. ( 1.5 gb on gsmarena)
They are launched with 4.2.2.
So by this I can assume that sammy will roll out 4.2.2 for note as well. Though wait will be long.
What's your take on this. Any views?
Regards
Mani

bhatia.mani said:
Hi.
I saw official launch of mega series on samsung site.
Mega 5.8 and 6.3 are using dual core processor with 1 gb of ram. ( 1.5 gb on gsmarena)
They are launched with 4.2.2.
So by this I can assume that sammy will roll out 4.2.2 for note as well. Though wait will be long.
What's your take on this. Any views?
Regards
Mani
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That assumption doesn't make any sense to me...

_breez_ said:
That assumption doesn't make any sense to me...
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Thens what's your take on this.

I think it is profit manners not about hardware power

bhatia.mani said:
Hi.
I saw official launch of mega series on samsung site.
Mega 5.8 and 6.3 are using dual core processor with 1 gb of ram. ( 1.5 gb on gsmarena)
They are launched with 4.2.2.
So by this I can assume that sammy will roll out 4.2.2 for note as well. Though wait will be long.
What's your take on this. Any views?
Regards
Mani
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Hardware is NOT an issue.
Sammobile received news from an insider a few months ago that the Galaxy S2 and the Galaxy Note should both be getting updates to 4.2.2.
Their insider isn't always right though, so this could just be a load of bollocks but still. You never know...

Another faulty update process made with no interest and no real testing at all? Thanks, but no thanks. I'll stick to 4.1.2 after a clean flash, which will surely be the peak for this device in terms of performance/functionality/estability.
But of course will be interesting for the dev community, if we all live enough to see it...
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While I hope we can get one or two more performance updates (especially regarding the S-Note application!) plus an updated unlock screen, I don't believe the phone needs anything else. My aging N7000 has served me well, especially after a fresh battery replacement.

I doubt that the update will be of any use if it isn't released any time soon. This fall the Note will have been available for 2 years. That's a very long life circle for a phone. Very soon people's Notes will start to die, one after another. And by the time the update will be published there will be hardly any Notes left
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4.2 should come for our Note: Galaxy S4 Mini and Galaxy Tab 3 have a dual core proccesor and 1 gb RAM Specs. Samsung sold more than 15 millon of GT N7000 so, its not an unknow phone like the Galaxy Fame or others and they will bring still a lot of support. I guess the 2014 will be the last year of updates for our Note. Dont wait to a major update this year, they first need to finish updating the 4.1.2 to the whole world, then will start the 4.2 updates. You might wait to a November/December leak...
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I do not beleive for any future update. SAM forget about his childs after the year. I faced with this already with my Galaxy Tab 10.1. Spec is the same like Note. But last update comes more then year ago, it was 4.0.4

The Note WILL receive Android 4.2.2. It will, however, be the last official update that it'll receive.
There's no date for the update. Samsung will update both the Note II and the S3 before, so when they receive it, we can expect it in about a month or two.

crizolli said:
The Note WILL receive Android 4.2.2. It will, however, be the last official update that it'll receive.
There's no date for the update. Samsung will update both the Note II and the S3 before, so when they receive it, we can expect it in about a month or two.
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When the redsox win the world series again we will get 4.2.2
You really are just making this up. You have no inside info. Same thing was said by everyone about 4.1.2. Not saying you are wrong, but I am saying that your statement had absolutely no factual basis from within your personal knowledge.
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asf58967 said:
When the redsox win the world series again we will get 4.2.2
You really are just making this up. You have no inside info. Same thing was said by everyone about 4.1.2. Not saying you are wrong, but I am saying that your statement had absolutely no factual basis from within your personal knowledge.
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My statement, as you say, is based on history and facts.
First off, SamMobile already confirmed that the Note and the S2 will receive Android 4.2.2, and that it'll be the last official update. Do a simple search and you'll confirm it. They have the track record to back this.
Source: http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/18...roid-5-0-for-the-galaxy-s-iii-galaxy-note-ii/
Then, this is exactly the same situation that happened with 4.1.1 and 4.1.2.
Rest assured, we'll receive 4.2.2. It'll come after the Note 2 and the S3, and before the Red Sox wins another WS.

Well I hope your right. But sammobile has been wrong many times in the past. Maybe when the dodgers win
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well anyway the TW 4.2 isn't particularly good for me. And btw, the smart scroll and those gesture features, are they purely firmware features or they are hardware dependent too? We got the smart scroll in 4.1.2 upgrade, not sure if we'd get the smart scroll this time...

crizolli said:
My statement, as you say, is based on history and facts.
First off, SamMobile already confirmed that the Note and the S2 will receive Android 4.2.2, and that it'll be the last official update. Do a simple search and you'll confirm it. They have the track record to back this.
Source: http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/18...roid-5-0-for-the-galaxy-s-iii-galaxy-note-ii/
Then, this is exactly the same situation that happened with 4.1.1 and 4.1.2.
Rest assured, we'll receive 4.2.2. It'll come after the Note 2 and the S3, and before the Red Sox wins another WS.
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However, SamMobile said some devices will get Android 5.0, while this android build wasn't showed by Google or even leaked. So we dont know if SamMobile's source was saying the truth or not. We dont know if 4.2.2 will be the last update, if will get S4 UI, if will be more faster, we dont know ANYTHING about this. The best thing we can do right now is look at the S3 leaked 4.2.2 firmware, because i think it will be the same rom that could have in our phones. I expect we will have the update (or the leak) in November or December.

asf58967 said:
When the redsox win the world series again we will get 4.2.2
You really are just making this up. You have no inside info. Same thing was said by everyone about 4.1.2. Not saying you are wrong, but I am saying that your statement had absolutely no factual basis from within your personal knowledge.
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I really do not understand why Americans call it 'World Series'.

M3TALLICA said:
I really do not understand why Americans call it 'World Series'.
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Maybe because it's the only country in the world when they bother to play it?

4.1.2 or 4.2.2........It doesn't matter much until and unless samsung stabalizes the update...........they released 4.1.2 update so late...and it was not smooth and performance wise it's so power hungry.
Also the touchwhiz interface is so slow with 4.1.2 update. So samsung must stabalize it before jumping it to 4.2.2

Well note still is a very capable phone. But its true that it has almost served its purpose. Spending time to make its update will need more workforce and distraction from focusing on newer devices. We will also get bore from it soon. But i still am happy to have this device and it was a nice decision to opt for this device. Though it will get the 4.2.2, but not the KLP...
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Note 8 will be update to kitkat 4.4 by samsung

sammobile mentioned to that in the link http://www.sammobile.com/2014/02/06...7-0-note-8-0-and-others-to-get-kitkat-update/

Ohh gooood...I hope so...
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i hope so too

i remember reading that so called "document" when SAMSUNG was MARKETING for Galaxy Gear
but since then they have gone really quiet on that topic.
looking at my signature one could tell my love for sammy but the lack of support by Samsung towards their tab range
it wont be long before that love is lost completely:crying::crying:

panjaby said:
i remember reading that so called "document" when SAMSUNG was MARKETING for Galaxy Gear
but since then they have gone really quiet on that topic.
looking at my signature one could tell my love for sammy but the lack of support by Samsung towards their tab range
it wont be long before that love is lost completely:crying::crying:
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you're right ex: sam:galaxy note 10.1it will never be updated to 4.4.2 although it's a strong tab and now i turned to z1 from s4

OK that article is a great news! BUT the question is When....we haven't even received 4.3 yet!!!!

I would bet that the only way any of us are gonna see 4.4.2 is when it comes on the new Galaxy Note Pro 8.4 if that ever comes! They just announced the 8" Tab Pro but no word on the new 8" note.

titotito1983 said:
OK that article is a great news! BUT the question is When....we haven't even received 4.3 yet!!!!
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i think sam will jump to kitkat update but i don't know when i hope it will be as soon as possible

No rule says they need to update to 5.3 first. The HTC One skipped 4.2.x and went straight from 4.1 to 4.3. Well, some of them anyway.
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messi2050 said:
i think sam will jump to kitkat update but i don't know when i hope it will be as soon as possible
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titotito1983 said:
OK that article is a great news! BUT the question is When....we haven't even received 4.3 yet!!!!
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i hope you are right and they release it soon
but i strongly believe that article was a marketing strategy and samsung has got no such intentions because gear is old news now the models that were going to get the 4.3+ have already got it.
hope we dont get betrayed again.

panjaby said:
i hope you are right and they release it soon
but i strongly believe that article was a marketing strategy and samsung has got no such intentions because gear is old news now the models that were going to get the 4.3+ have already got it.
hope we dont get betrayed again.
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all we can do is to wait and see what will happen

messi2050 said:
all we can do is to wait and see what will happen
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Yes, I believe they will eventually release KitKat for N5100/N5110 but not till July. And probably 4.5 will came until they release 4.4.

whitemolecule said:
Yes, I believe they will eventually release KitKat for N5100/N5110 but not till July. And probably 4.5 will came until they release 4.4.
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No. It actually going to be happen relatively sooner. As very good indication, Samsung will debut new Samsung S5 at MWC 2014, and possible annouce KitKat 4.4 updates for not-to-older devices as well. This is the only chance that Note 8 will get KitKat 4.4, remember that there's 18 months of software support for Android smartphones (Google’s 18 month mark), if it won't get 4.4 this time, it will never going to see 4.4 (officially at least)

jazzespresso said:
No. It actually going to be happen relatively sooner. As very good indication, Samsung will debut new Samsung S5 at MWC 2014, and possible annouce KitKat 4.4 updates for not-to-older devices as well. This is the only chance that Note 8 will get KitKat 4.4, remember that there's 18 months of software support for Android smartphones (Google’s 18 month mark), if it won't get 4.4 this time, it will never going to see 4.4 (officially at least)
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yes i think it will happen in april

I hope happens soon! but to be honest we dont even have 4.3.....do you think they will skip it and go straight for 4.4?

Well until all my 400 apps are updated to properly run 4.4, I'd rather wait it out. Nothing like app bugs on an android device. Doesn't any of you notice how much apps are being updated. Gosh, since X-mas there has been one update after another for compatibility issues with 4.4, or bugs because of backwards compatibility after the 4.4 fix. Common Google! Get your act together or MS will kicky your lilly white bahookie!

titotito1983 said:
I hope happens soon! but to be honest we dont even have 4.3.....do you think they will skip it and go straight for 4.4?
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Yes I believe they will, consider that there's not a lot of difference between 4.3 and 4.4, so it makes sense for Samsung to skip 4.3 for Note 8 and go straight to 4.4
of course, all these are guessing games, we never know for sure..

titotito1983 said:
I hope happens soon! but to be honest we dont even have 4.3.....do you think they will skip it and go straight for 4.4?
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yes i think that will happen

gooberdude said:
Well until all my 400 apps are updated to properly run 4.4, I'd rather wait it out. Nothing like app bugs on an android device. Doesn't any of you notice how much apps are being updated. Gosh, since X-mas there has been one update after another for compatibility issues with 4.4, or bugs because of backwards compatibility after the 4.4 fix. Common Google! Get your act together or MS will kicky your lilly white bahookie!
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I've run several 4.4 ROMs on this device and have had zero app compatibility issues.
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It seems that you guys don't have much experience with samsung. I feel, from what I have seen from them over a few years that my prediction is....no kitkat 4.4 for the note 8 ever!

Lollipop coming to NA Galaxy devices NOW

Hey Guy,
I have a friend that works for the mobile division of BestBuy and he saw an email that Samsung sent them that says Lollipop should be released within a few days. The email doesn't specifically give that information but he says it shows instructions on how to update the demo devices to Lollipop and how to reinstall the retail demo software after the update. He said usually those kind of emails are sent within days of the actual updates which would mean that most of the units on demo (Note 4, S5, Alpha and possibly Note 3) should be getting 5.0 within a few days. This update affects DEMO units which are not carrier branded which could mean, as usual, some carriers might keep that update for testing until they are comfortable it is fully compatible with their network.
This is good news for us, as Samsung has already started pushing Lollipop to some European countries.

I say mid February
BAD ASS NOTE 4

Possible, depending on the carrier. I think T-mo pushes the updates quite quickly

The T-Mobile Note 2 I had earlier was still on Jelly Bean. Is Lollipop coming to T-Mobile Note Devices anytime soon?

Find this with a quick Google search.
phandroid.com/2014/12/30/samsung-galaxy-s5-lollipop-update-january-us/
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BACARDILIMON said:
I say mid February
BAD ASS NOTE 4
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I'd say late March.

Thugnificent69 said:
I'd say late March.
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It's verified that it's coming in Jan. It was verified to a mod, so it's pretty safe to rely on the information.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2qui2n/samsung_confirmed_l_release_in_jan_internal/

ragnarok12 said:
It's verified that it's coming in Jan. It was verified to a mod, so it's pretty safe to rely on the information.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2qui2n/samsung_confirmed_l_release_in_jan_internal/
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Lol I read it and when he edit he stated that it is not verified by Samsung lol. Even if Samsung releases it in jan Tmobile still has to bloat it up. So I say may now. Or may e the note 5 will be out first. Lol
BAD ASS NOTE 4

BACARDILIMON said:
Lol I read it and when he edit he stated that it is not verified by Samsung lol. Even if Samsung releases it in jan Tmobile still has to bloat it up. So I say may now. Or may e the note 5 will be out first. Lol
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I'll be crossing my fingers that a miracle happens and things do indeed roll out in January, lol

What's the purpose of waiting for an OTA? I get too excited to update if there is no reason to update and I have a stable ROM (Unless the ROM I use updates).

BACARDILIMON said:
I say mid February
BAD ASS NOTE 4
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Which year?

Limeybastard said:
Which year?
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True lol
BAD ASS NOTE 4

ajr0312 said:
What's the purpose of waiting for an OTA? I get too excited to update if there is no reason to update and I have a stable ROM (Unless the ROM I use updates).
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I dont think its about waiting for OTA, i think its about knowing more or less when our fav rom will make the jump to 5.0

I read the galaxy s5 will get lollipop first early January, note 4 "soon after".
It's real, but I don't think the note 4 will be the first to get it, and honestly as rude as this sounds, I don't care when other Samsung devices get it, I want it on my note 4! Official with everything working. Hopefully January

Araltd said:
I read the galaxy s5 will get lollipop first early January, note 4 "soon after".
It's real, but I don't think the note 4 will be the first to get it, and honestly as rude as this sounds, I don't care when other Samsung devices get it, I want it on my note 4! Official with everything working. Hopefully January
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The S5 rollout started end of november. Note 4 should follow shortly as more and more leaks videos come out

I actually work at Best Buy. I'll see what I can dig up when I go to work tomorrow.

got to be earlier than march I mean by then we should be expecting another upgrade.... lol
I think by the mid or end of this month./

Like stated above...I could care less when the official update is released. I just want to know my roms will be updated.

rile1564 said:
Find this with a quick Google search.
phandroid.com/2014/12/30/samsung-galaxy-s5-lollipop-update-january-us/
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ragnarok12 said:
It's verified that it's coming in Jan. It was verified to a mod, so it's pretty safe to rely on the information.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2qui2n/samsung_confirmed_l_release_in_jan_internal/
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Araltd said:
I read the galaxy s5 will get lollipop first early January, note 4 "soon after".
It's real, but I don't think the note 4 will be the first to get it, and honestly as rude as this sounds, I don't care when other Samsung devices get it, I want it on my note 4! Official with everything working. Hopefully January
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It's funny how several people can read the same articles and interpret it VERY differently. Samsung has announced THEY will be rolling out Lollipop...this means unbranded devices. Then one of the articles uses words regarding US carriers as "could" and "as early as January" adding the disclaimer that the carriers will do whatever they want regarding testing and timelines. So before you all continue fighting over vaporware, research all the articles on KitKat and Jellybean that all had the same wording, people still posting "We will haz JB tomorrow" and then the US carriers releasing an OTA 2 months later. Granted Sprint and T-Mobile are usually the firsts in the US carrier line because they do not have to worry about unlocking and relocking a bootloader without bricking devices on an OTA....so rather than fight...just wait...be patient for that new Knox loaded Lollipop update.
I will be cleaning the disrespectful posts from this thread and expect those who posted in such a manner to accept this as an official warning...do not do so again!
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BACARDILIMON said:
Lol I read it and when he edit he stated that it is not verified by Samsung lol. Even if Samsung releases it in jan Tmobile still has to bloat it up. So I say may now. Or may e the note 5 will be out first. Lol
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remember they gotta get that wi-fi calling working just right.
or maybe none of their apps can run on ART yet 0_o

SamsungUK says Lollipop is Coming to our Note 8

Take a look at @SamsungmobileUK's Tweet: https://twitter.com/SamsungMobileUK/status/591908863659618304?s=09
Unless Samsung is just trolling, this is pretty awesome.

TheBigBentley said:
Take a look at @SamsungmobileUK's Tweet: https://twitter.com/SamsungMobileUK/status/591908863659618304?s=09
Unless Samsung is just trolling, this is pretty awesome.
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F yeah!

Any news?

TheBigBentley said:
Take a look at @SamsungmobileUK's Tweet: https://twitter.com/SamsungMobileUK/status/591908863659618304?s=09
Unless Samsung is just trolling, this is pretty awesome.
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well, i had already known that... with too many issue from 4.4.x and their issues with the S6 and other lolly poop issues, i expect august plus or minus a month. i hope it works better than kit kak, so i can replace the updated tablet's 4.4.2 with 5.0 and sell it for a profet.

I love meterial design. Hope this release will out soon

I had saw the usual sites saying it was coming but that was way back last year and hadn't seen any new info recently so I figured it was squashed. With all Samsung's phones getting updated now, I would assume shortly after summer too.

Yea, this device came out in April 2013. It is now May 2015, well outside the 18 month support window. Keep dreaming guys, ain't gonna happen.

Conflicting messages:
Samsung Gulf does it again, says no Lollipop for Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0
A good enough reason to stay on CM 12.2 nightlies.

CafeKampuchia said:
Conflicting messages:
Samsung Gulf does it again, says no Lollipop for Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0
A good enough reason to stay on CM 12.2 nightlies.
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Correct, but official Samsung Denmark said it will get, but depends on region by region. Also heard Note II won't be getting it, but Samsung Korea said it will be getting lollipop (depends which version of Note II).
so it is really hard to say if it is getting it or not, but I still have some hope, it may see lollipop.
Talking about CM 12.2 nightlies, it is buggy and its ugly, but that's personal preference of course.

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Correct, but official Samsung Denmark said it will get, but depends on region by region. Also heard Note II won't be getting it, but Samsung Korea said it will be getting lollipop (depends which version of Note II).
so it is really hard to say if it is getting it or not, but I still have some hope, it may see lollipop.
Talking about CM 12.2 nightlies, it is buggy and its ugly, but that's personal preference of course.
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Even if some region cant get lollipop, just flash the one that get it lel .
dont even talk about cm12.1, so many bug even at application level there's something unresolved yet. not to mention the screen glitch, camera & call. the worst part, sleep animation.

It would be great if they could get the official Lollipop release to our tablets, however the CM versions are pretty decent at the moment.

Except netflix doesn't work on any of them
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Looks like Galaxy Note 2 will be getting Lollipop, if you think that, this device is released in October 2012, and our Note 8.0 released around April 2013, this may give us a little hope that our device may see lollipop, of course we never be sure for 100%, but at least there's still a little bit hope...
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entry/Samsung-Officially-Confirms-Lollipop-update-for-Galaxy-Note-2-and-Note-2-4G-NOT-all-Regions

I hope we will be seeing lolipop for the Note 8.0. I love my Note 8.0 it is a excellent tablet.

it looks like it's canceled http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entry/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-8-0-official-Android-5-0-Lollipop-update-Canceled-due-to-hardware-limitations

What's happened to 5.1.1 update

Is it because when we get it our battery problems will be solved and battery life will beat note 5... Strange that full price unlocked phones still no updates but usa carriers have. Disgraceful really... One thing I really like about the iPhone upgrades are fast and for every model with support for older models at least 2 or three years

Santa will bring it.

I agree with you that Samsung are holding 5.1.1 for Note 4 and that's probably not to fix bugs but more likely because they want Note 4 users move to Note 5.
But I don't think Apple is the best example when it comes to updates. They usually release updates that have performances or battery life problem on older iphone's models and only newer models (or the one from the year before) can access to all fonctionalities.

alex9898 said:
I agree with you that Samsung are holding 5.1.1 for Note 4 and that's probably not to fix bugs but more likely because they want Note 4 users move to Note 5.
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That can't be true. The 5.1.1 update is only available in the US right now which is the only country (apart from Korea) that will actually get the Note 5.

Yes us cariers... But what about the rest of the world.... Not to mention people who paid full price.

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That can't be true. The 5.1.1 update is only available in the US right now which is the only country (apart from Korea) that will actually get the Note 5.
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I said Note 5 but I think about the S6 Edge+ too.

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Yes us cariers... But what about the rest of the world.... Not to mention people who paid full price.
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read it again.

Is it not normally the case that the clever folk on the XDA forums can make it so that the US firmware for 5.1.1 can work on the international variant 910F?

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Is it not normally the case that the clever folk on the XDA forums can make it so that the US firmware for 5.1.1 can work on the international variant 910F?
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Shouldn't be too much work, but I doubt it would be worth it considering the official update could come any day now. Also Sprint and T-Mobile released the updates, not Samsung, so Samsung could still be holding back the firmware for international Note 4 customers. There's just nothing we can do right now, other than to wait for the update to drop. I'm going to guess we'll see it the same time the Note 5/S6/S6 Edge/S6 Edge Plus (how many top tier phones does one company really need?) gets updates to Android Marshmellow (which is running awesome btw on my Nexus 5).

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Is it not normally the case that the clever folk on the XDA forums can make it so that the US firmware for 5.1.1 can work on the international variant 910F?
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Sammy have screwed things up with lollipop on the sd variants. To get it to boot you need the modem files from the same base. This means to get 5.1.1 tmob booted we'd need the tmob modem. Trust me I've tried every thing I can think of to get either the tmob or sprint releases to boot but no luck
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Toss3 said:
Shouldn't be too much work, but I doubt it would be worth it considering the official update could come any day now. Also Sprint and T-Mobile released the updates, not Samsung, so Samsung could still be holding back the firmware for international Note 4 customers. There's just nothing we can do right now, other than to wait for the update to drop. I'm going to guess we'll see it the same time the Note 5/S6/S6 Edge/S6 Edge Plus (how many top tier phones does one company really need?) gets updates to Android Marshmellow (which is running awesome btw on my Nexus 5).
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I should add note5 firmware doesnt have stagefright fix too. They will want to add that fix in note 4 firmware aswell.

Guys will Touchwuiz Themes will be added in 5.1.1 update ?
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I dont think so. Samsung wants you to buy s6 or Note 5... then u got themes when u pay cash

I don't think Samsung is holding back updates because of their selling policy. The usual customer doesn't know abou it. We on xda are keeping an eye on the updates, but we are probably just 1% and that isn't significant.

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I don't think Samsung is holding back updates because of their selling policy. The usual customer doesn't know abou it. We on xda are keeping an eye on the updates, but we are probably just 1% and that isn't significant.
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That is a valid argument, but most regular people at the store normally go for the phone with the newer android version, so even for regular Joes it matters.

Toss3 said:
That is a valid argument, but most regular people at the store normally go for the phone with the newer android version, so even for regular Joes it matters.
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I don't know...I'm just saying that my family is just buying the newer phones and they don't know what android version they are getting. I recently got my brothers note3 to use and he didn't update at all since he buyed it. And I think he's an avarage user.
The android versions are confusing for the avarage user, not like iOS. Google and Samsung and other manufacturers don't make such big deals of the updates like Apple does.

We've been waiting far too long for 5.1.1, I must say. Samsung truly have taken their time.
I've had the S2, S3 and S4, and never waited this long for updates.
I am loving my Note 4 more than any other Samsung...heck any phone in general I've owned, that is including more than my 1st smartphone, the Nokia N80, which I absolutely adored. Yet I can't help but feel Samsung is letting down what has to be their greatest smartphone in recent times with slow updates, its such a shame really.
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POLO_i780 said:
We've been waiting far too long for 5.1.1, I must say. Samsung truly have taken their time.
I've had the S2, S3 and S4, and never waited this long for updates.
I am loving my Note 4 more than any other Samsung...heck any phone in general I've owned, that is including more than my 1st smartphone, the Nokia N80, which I absolutely adored. Yet I can't help but feel Samsung is letting down what has to be their greatest smartphone in recent times with slow updates, its such a shame really.
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Never waited this long for updates? Seriously, seems like you never owned a Galaxy Note N7000. More than 8 months waiting for the Jelly Bean 4.1.2 update and one year for Carrier Updates. The best treated Note was the Galaxy Note 2, which recived JB 4.2.2, 4.3, 4.4 Kitkat and even Lollipop was planned for it. But yes, now that the Note 5 is released, we need to wait a couple of months to see a big update for our Note 4. I'm pretty sure that Android 6.0 Marshmallow will be the last one, sadly, knowing Samsung and their update policy.

It is very simple. They delay 5.1.1 because of Note 5. They want customer have more reasons to upgrade, to buy their new phone. And if they do like 5.0.1, just upgrade OS core, no more features like on S6, Note 4 user will be disappointed with them. Many user want removable battery, better battery life option, sd card support so they will not upgrade soon!

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It is very simple. They delay 5.1.1 because of Note 5. They want customer have more reasons to upgrade, to buy their new phone. And if they do like 5.0.1, just upgrade OS core, no more features like on S6, Note 4 user will be disappointed with them. Many user want removable battery, better battery life option, sd card support so they will not upgrade soon!
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You are right, this is the truth.
I will keep my Note 4 (KitKat 4.4.4), I downgrade from 5.0.1 because of bugs and I will not update my Note 4 to any new firmware unless it will be bug free as much as the 4.4.4 firmware.
that will lead me to change my mind regarding what is next after Note 4 (My next smartphone) ?!!!
I will think twice before buying something from Samsung, specially after using glass for building their smartphones.