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There are many questions being asked in various threads about NFC so lets stick all NFC enquiries into one thread.
What do we know so far?
From the UK model's there are no signs of NFC, however the Korean version does. Why is this?
The Korean service is provided KT, based on NFC phones and SIM cards.
"In Korea, there were 2~3 smartphones that embedded NFC including Nexus S. But in the problem of blocking SWP between USIM and NFC chipset, Nexus S is not that well promoted as the NFC phone. So Galaxy S2 may be accepted as the first NFC phone by consumers. And if iPhone 5 doesn’t embed NFC, Galaxy S2 is very important for carriers and card companies to want to drive the NFC payment.
Among active movements around the NFC business such as Korea Communication Commission’s ‘Grand NFC Korea Alliance, infrastructure is rising as the key issue to activate the market. And it’s a good opportunity for carriers to distribute Galaxy S2 which is designed for SIM-based SE.
After the launch of Galaxy S2, Samsung will adopt NFC in most of its smartphone line-up."
Which brings us to the UK version, from many sources on the web, Samsung is keen to blow NFC up big in the UK, they are planning to work with Visa for the Olympics:
http://www.nearfieldcommunicationsw...ing-nfc-payments-to-the-london-2012-olympics/
So that states from 2012 onwards, starting in the UK then Europe.
Mastercard and orange are working together to bring out a NFC phone, which will be the Samsung Wave 578:
http://www.whatmobile.net/2011/02/samsung-wave-578-gets-nfc-addition/
Not sure if Mastercard or Barclaycard, however these will be all based on SIM BASED NFC. A high capacity sim card replacing the standard sim cards.
Going back to 2010, Samsung trialling out Sim based NFC:
http://www.mobilemarketingmagazine.com/content/sim-based-nfc-payments-pilot-runs-mwc
Now Samsung is jumping on board the NFC bandwagon, as Mobile Business Briefing reports, with news that the company will be working with Visa to produce a branded Olympics handset featuring contactless mobile payments.
The phone will use a Visa enabled sim card to facilitate purchases from retailers with the necessary contactless technology. Some 60,000 retail outlets in London will apparently be set to accept NFC payments by the time the games rolls around in 2012.
The only question which remains is what network operator Samsung is going to get on board with…
So after all that, we may have to wait until next year maybe in the UK for a specific NFC based phone which will allow the new sims. The UK S2 in that sense will most likely not have NFC as we are not ready for it just yet.
Maybe we will see a NFC version in the near future or the Samsung Galaxy S3 rumoured for end year will house this once UK carriers have piloted their NFC tests!
Oddly phones4u who are the only uk store to actually have some in the warehouse go out their way to state it houses nfc to use you phone as a credit card. I'm starting to think it might vary from shop to shop. This could be confusing!
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I think they all procure physical devices from same source.
But different shops grab specs from different Samsung web site
Or may be everyone is lucky, that metal frame around the camera lens IS the NFC antenna, and all this phone needs is a software upgrade to enable NFC functionality
I think it's pretty poor of Samsung not to be totally transparent about who is getting what varient and when.. i.e. Exynos/Tegra, Super AMOLED+/LCD, NFC/Non NFC, 16GB/32GB...
Clove have just released a blog stating the UK SGSII will NOT be shipping with NFC.
God its bad, Samsung should have cleared what region is getting what, Clove and expansys said repeatedly to me that NFC will there...
Its bad marketing by Samsung..Misrepresentation under English Law sue-able offense.
Beards said:
Clove have just released a blog stating the UK SGSII will NOT be shipping with NFC.
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Beards said:
Clove have just released a blog stating the UK SGSII will NOT be shipping with NFC.
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I think all early versions of the phone will not have NFC then... I hoped the german version would be an exeption, but I belive it is the same physical batch because it comes similar early to the market.
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Clove have just released a blog stating the UK SGSII will NOT be shipping with NFC.
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I actually asked them to verify that with Samsung since all the review said NFC were missing. They got back to me last night before posting the blog to confirm that there won't be NFC. I don't know why Samsung never told them that before or why they never verified this with the rest of the specs to begin with...
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I actually asked them to verify that with Samsung since all the review said NFC were missing. They got back to me last night before posting the blog to confirm that there won't be NFC. I don't know why Samsung never told them that before or why they never verified this with the rest of the specs to begin with...
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I know.... You can also read a small bit about NFC here not impressed.
well according the the official samsung galaxy s2 specification webpage it says that the thickness is 8.49mm. Also under the NFC specs there was a line saying that with phones with the NFC chip, the thickness would vary. Now the korean version is launched and its with NFC chip, and indeed in the official samsungtomorrow korean site ( here http://samsungtomorrow.com/1145) the thickness is given as 8.89mm. So I guess we can safely assume that galaxy s2's with 8.89 mm thickness are the ones with nfc chip. So Before its launched in your region if you find 8.49mm thickness under the specs sheet that consider its without nfc.
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well according the the official samsung galaxy s2 specification webpage it says that the thickness is 8.49mm. Also under the NFC specs there was a line saying that with phones with the NFC chip, the thickness would vary. Now the korean version is launched and its with NFC chip, and indeed in the official samsungtomorrow korean site ( here http://samsungtomorrow.com/1145) the thickness is given as 8.89mm. So I guess we can safely assume that galaxy s2's with 8.89 mm thickness are the ones with nfc chip. So Before its launched in your region if you find 8.49mm thickness under the specs sheet that consider its without nfc.
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Yes, I lived in korea. And we think 0.5mm differrence is our Korea galaxy S2 model(SHW-M250S/M250K) embedded TDMB module.
(if you learn about TDMB, please refer follow link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Multimedia_Broadcasting)
usually most of korea cellphone embedded TDMB module and,
as a result, phone thicker then non-dmb embedded phone.
So our korean think Korea galaxy S2 is thicker then EU galaxy S2.
Expansys told me yesterday that their stock has the NFC chip... I even asked the guy to double check etc. and mentioned what everyone had been saying on forums. If it arrives without the NFC chip (which it probably will) I am going to kick up a fuss.
I have repeatedly asked Expansys to recheck and confirm that what ever specs are mentioned on your webpage will be present in my phone when they ship.. They said yes, It will be same phone (specs) as mentioned on the web.. Lets see
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Expansys told me yesterday that their stock has the NFC chip... I even asked the guy to double check etc. and mentioned what everyone had been saying on forums. If it arrives without the NFC chip (which it probably will) I am going to kick up a fuss.
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NFC
I got mine from P4U yesterday and I can not find any sign of an NFC chip. Nothing comes up in the hardware profile and there is no app to define credit card information etc.
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I got mine from P4U yesterday and I can not find any sign of an NFC chip. Nothing comes up in the hardware profile and there is no app to define credit card information etc.
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Thanks... It is now 100% confirmed Samsung did not release the SGS II on the UK market with the chip.
Bloody annoying what!
Samsung make great hardware but their marketing, advertising & P.R need to be taken down a peg or two.
Samsung UK must have known all along the current UK SGS II would not have the chip, so why was it not mentioned as such.
You simply can not advertise something when clearly it is not.
It is a clear case of false advertising. Absolutely everything I read prior to purchase said it had nfc. I didn't see even the slightest speculation that it was not going to be included.
I'm not too bothered though. In reality, I have no use for nfc just yet - and I can't see me keeping this phone for more than a year (not the phone's fault, I just like to stay fairly current).
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I just now made a request (tweet) to samsung india twitter account:
Please take ur time in getting the sgs2 to India, but please include the NFC Chip, we really want a future ready device.
I request all indian xda members to do the same.
heres the link: http://twitter.com/#!/samsung_mobiles
Can anyone tell me how to verify before buying if a particular Galaxy S2 has built in NFC chip? Will it say on the box? usually sellers have sealed package. Do I have to remove the battery cover for physical evidence or literally measure the thickness? Also, how to verify the variants of LCD/AMOLED and CPUs?
I'll greatly appreciate if anyone has any info on this, it's my major concern. I hate it when I pay top dollars and find that my boss or colleague has the same phone with better cpu and extra feature.
Cheers in advance.
I can't see how or why they would make to models, where is the money in that, i only see unhappy costumer.
uncanny said:
Can anyone tell me how to verify before buying if a particular Galaxy S2 has built in NFC chip? Will it say on the box? usually sellers have sealed package. Do I have to remove the battery cover for physical evidence or literally measure the thickness? Also, how to verify the variants of LCD/AMOLED and CPUs?
I'll greatly appreciate if anyone has any info on this, it's my major concern. I hate it when I pay top dollars and find that my boss or colleague has the same phone with better cpu and extra feature.
Cheers in advance.
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Exactly the question I had in my mind.
Would really appreciate if someone can really come up with a concrete answer.
Maybe if some SGS II users from korean market join us here then they would be able to tell us how to identify a NFC/non NFC enabled SGS II or where does it really shows up or mentioned.
Thanks.
Bit of a grey area here but ..
Brought my note from Handtec, Came in the "Blue" box however not sure what country. UK plug and english manual.
Was told by Handtec that it comes with NFC but no support in UK. Well I am in Australia. Had a look through the apps but cannot see any related to NFC.
Support here is not that great either but would be nice to see some sort of functionality.
Tips?
dusty_nz said:
Bit of a grey area here but ..
Brought my note from Handtec, Came in the "Blue" box however not sure what country. UK plug and english manual.
Was told by Handtec that it comes with NFC but no support in UK. Well I am in Australia. Had a look through the apps but cannot see any related to NFC.
Support here is not that great either but would be nice to see some sort of functionality.
Tips?
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What's NFC?
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That's got to be a ****ing joke.
If it's sarcasm, despite controversies, gsmarena does state the Note has NFC support.
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What's NFC?
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Ignoring potential sarcasim.
Near Field Communications.
Refer to Handtec clarifying spec.
Ref Q/A on the following link
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/5504/samsung-galaxy-note--16gb--sim-free-unlocked-
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Details: Any clarification on NFC? More worried about the hardware at this stage. Will it support NFC?
by Paul Rosser @ 03/11/2011
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A: The phone does support NFC, however, Samsung have informed us that NFC will not work in the UK yet as it has not been implemented here yet.
by Nick @ 03/11/2011
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Any applications that can start to interface with NFC?
If NFC is in the phone it would work in any country depending on which apps and tags you have for it.
there's no NFC, download z-device test from the market and see for yourself, there's no NFC sensor and no temperature sensor
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Any applications that can start to interface with NFC?
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Android Beam. Google it or better youtube it.
In all the specs I have read, NFC is listed as "Optional"
I do not believe that any European Galaxy Note devices have NFC. I would have liked it as although there is not much use of it here in the UK I suspect that things will change in the next year or so.
Apart from ICS, this is the only thing that might have persuaded me to choose the Galaxy Nexus over the Note. The Note card slot will be more useful to me than NFC so that's why I went for the Note.
htc6500uk said:
In all the specs I have read, NFC is listed as "Optional"
I do not believe that any European Galaxy Note devices have NFC. I would have liked it as although there is not much use of it here in the UK I suspect that things will change in the next year or so.
Apart from ICS, this is the only thing that might have persuaded me to choose the Galaxy Nexus over the Note. The Note card slot will be more useful to me than NFC so that's why I went for the Note.
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Yup. The UK Note does not have an NFC chip in it, and AFAIK neither do any of the European ones - simply because NFC isn't big enough in the EU yet to warrant inclusion (and the higher price that would bring).
However it may be included in models for other markets (perhaps Korea or Japan, idk) where this would make sense.
htc6500uk said:
In all the specs I have read, NFC is listed as "Optional"
I do not believe that any European Galaxy Note devices have NFC. I would have liked it as although there is not much use of it here in the UK I suspect that things will change in the next year or so.
Apart from ICS, this is the only thing that might have persuaded me to choose the Galaxy Nexus over the Note. The Note card slot will be more useful to me than NFC so that's why I went for the Note.
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Optional might mean NFC chips in battery or SD card may become available, some day...
Other discussion here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1323636
Hi all,
1st week into my S3 and well chuffed with it.
Seen the option to be able to play movies to an HDMI telly using an adapter.
There is a geniune branded one on fleabay for £20+ GBP and then a non-branded on for a fraction of that price ( ~£7.50GBP )
Just wondered whether anybody has experience either way to suggest whether the cheap option is worth it or not.
Thx
Beware...
ebod said:
Hi all,
1st week into my S3 and well chuffed with it.
Seen the option to be able to play movies to an HDMI telly using an adapter.
There is a geniune branded one on fleabay for £20+ GBP and then a non-branded on for a fraction of that price ( ~£7.50GBP )
Just wondered whether anybody has experience either way to suggest whether the cheap option is worth it or not.
Thx
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If the cheap one says its also compatible with any other phone than the S3 then it will be a 5 pin MHL connector one, and won't actually work with your S3, even though the seller says it does... The S3 uses an 11pin MHL connector. The cheap ones work fine if you add a 5 to 11 pin MHL adapter add-on ..you can find the adapter add-on for about $10 on ebay
aaah okay so I either find an 11 pin MHL or just go for genuine SS. I'll browse fleabay to see whats out there.
EDIT : This was saved in my fleabay faves, it definately says 11pin but metions S2 & S3. Would YOU trust?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130752544096?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
Amazingly I can't even find any of those adapter tips on UK eBay, and if I set to search other countries they trying to charge on average £20 delivery so the cheapest I can find one for is £27.
So can someone point me in the right direction to get one at a reasonable price.
Geordie Lad said:
Amazingly I can't even find any of those adapter tips on UK eBay, and if I set to search other countries they trying to charge on average £20 delivery so the cheapest I can find one for is £27.
So can someone point me in the right direction to get one at a reasonable price.
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Mobile fun had them on there website for £10 a pop
boundy said:
Mobile fun had them on there website for £10 a pop
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Been checking them for weeks and asked them to send email notification when in stock but every day I've been checking and says out of stock and last week started saying they only available for pre-order.
HML adadapter 5pin to 11 pin
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Samsung...to-11-Pin-Converter-Adapter-TIP-/400316561767
US$9.99 and $1.59 shipping worldwide. Mine works well with one of the cheap ebay $8 5pin HML units.(just search for 'Samsung HML')
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Samsung...to-11-Pin-Converter-Adapter-TIP-/400316561767
US$9.99 and $1.59 shipping worldwide. Mine works well with one of the cheap ebay $8 5pin HML units.(just search for 'Samsung HML')
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Guys! am I missing something here??? I'm correct to assume my S3 is 11-pin right??
Lets go back to my ebay link : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130752544096?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
This item is £7.59GBP inclusive of shipping and clearly states S3 & 11 pin in the body of the text.
So is this item good to go ?
Would the Galaxy Note one work?
Am I right in thinking that the 11 pin SGS3 MHL cable is compatible with the S2 and the Note (i.e. backwards compatible)?
Don't confuse this with the S2 and Note MHL connector working with the S3 - I know it doesn't.
Can someone actually check with an S3 MHL connector and an S2 or a Note and confirm please?
Hi Everyone, I was searching around for an answer to this but couldn't find it anywhere. I want to order some NFC tags from ebay (10 for $10) but want to be sure they're compatible with the Nexus 7 before I place the order. I've found some info on the forums about the Nexus 4 and Nexus 10, but nothing about the 7.
From what I've seen online (random google searches, nothing reliable) the Nexus 7 seems to have a Phillips NXP chipset for NFC. Is that correct?
I just want to do some basic stuff (eg. have the Wifi turn off when I put the tablet in my backpack) so I know the 1k ones are kinda overkill, but I don't plan to lock them so I'd rather just go with the 1k ones straight away.
Anyway, any info for an NFC noob would be appreciated, I'll list the specs from the ebay auction below.
Thanks!
These are the specs from the ebay auction:
Mifare 1k S50
Operating Frequency: 13.56MHz
Capacity: 1024 bytes (768 free bytes available)
I just bought some TecTiles and it keeps telling me that "this tag is not supported" I've tried LLAMA, the official TecTile App, and NFC Task Launcher and all say the same. Any ideas?
If your TecTiles are MIFARE then they will no longer be compatible with the S4's NFC controller. Samsung supposedly switches over to Type 4 tags later for TecTiles, maybe the ones you bought were old.
You can use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=at.mroland.android.apps.nfctaginfo&hl=en to identify tag type.
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If your TecTiles are MIFARE then they will no longer be compatible with the S4's NFC controller. Samsung supposedly switches over to Type 4 tags later for TecTiles, maybe the ones you bought were old.
You can use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=at.mroland.android.apps.nfctaginfo&hl=en to identify tag type.
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That's what I was thinking but even Samsung couldn't tell me anything... Any idea where I can get Type 4 NFC tags? I might be searching wrong on amazon but can't see them.
This is ridiculous, I spent $25 on tags and they aren't supported? The idiot thing can even read the tag far enough to say "This tag is not supported"
Why did they change the bloody NFC chip and what hapenned to backwards compatibility?
Tec Tiles are not compatible with the NFC Forum's standard.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/27/samsung-galaxy-s-4-drops-original-tectile-support/
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I've also bought 5 pack - work for me (model EAD-X11SWEGSTD, manufactured on 2013-01-02)
Where can one get 1kb NFC tags compatible with the S4 at a good price?