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My thoughts on the Arc and why im going to sell it (read if your thinking of buying!)

Hi all,
Now im generally not a fan of people posting 'hate' threads, but this phone has dissapointed me so much that i feel it necessary to point out why i turned to hate it and why im selling it and getting the Galaxy SII in order to help people that are thinking of buying this phone to make an advised decision.
1. It constantly lags, and almost every app force closes (and YES i have reset the phone and used both .181 and .145 versions of the firmware.
2. When the phone starts syncing accounts in the background it renders it unusable. The phone takes up to 5 minutes to load the Facebook app and longer for anything else.
3. Sony Ericsson's stupid decision to reverse the ground and mic wires so you cant use any other wired headphones with an inline control but the ones it came with. As discussed in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045973&page=1
4. The camera takes too long to open.
5. The USB socket is on the side at the top so you have to have a landscape dock which takes up more room (obviously only applies to people that use a dock with their phones).
6. The USB/Power lead that comes with it is angled up instead of down which i find just gets in the way.
7. The headphone jack is on the side (ok this is not a major issue but is annoying when getting it in and out of your pocket when you have headphones in.
8. The headphones that come with it only have a play/pause button and no volume or any way to change tracks. (i hear theres an app that can change what the button does but it really should be there to start with!)
9. I bought a sim locked version which at the moment means i cant root or install custom roms.
10. The Sony Ericsson UI is awful and downright ugly (again you can always install a different launcher, but thats money for an app that you shouldnt need in my opinion and it just covers the home screens, as soon as you enter the Settings, Dialler or Contacts your right back in the SEUI).
11. Recording in 720p is super laggy and jolts all the time making it useless.
I will go on to say though that the camera is the best phone camera i have ever used by far! Stunning photos everytime. And the same goes for the built in speaker.
UPDATE!!
Ok so i thought i should update this post in case anyone was still undecided on which device to buy. I have since sold my Arc and bought an S2 and WOW WHAT A DIFFERENCE!.
The S2 solves all the little problems i had with the Arc (the headset wiring is the right way round, the headphone jack is on the top of the device, the micro USB is at the bottom PERFECT)
PLUS it solves the big problems i had. The S2 is lightning fast, fast like you wouldnt believe! Everything opens instantaneously including the camera which literately takes just a second to open and be ready to shoot.
Speaking of the camera the built in features are better (panorama up to 8 pictures, cartoon mode and beauty shot, as well as all the stuff the Arc has) and it films in 1080p!!! The quality is superb you just would not believe it was recorded on a phone!!! Oh AND you can use digital zoom at the highest quality setting by pinching the screen! Cool feature the Arc doesnt have at all let alone with a cool multi touch gesture!
I have had the phone running for about 3 days now and used it heavily (games, video, intensive browsing with heavy flash sites usually for 2 hours at a time) and not once have i needed to force close stuff with a task killer or restart the phone, the S2 just keeps on going with whatever you do to it. I have never known a phone capable of such use!
With my Arc i would of had to have run a task killer after EVERY task in order for it to be responsive enough to do something else at a reasonable speed. For example with the Arc if i watched a few flash videos in the browser and then pressed the home button, the Home Screen would be unresponsive for a couple of seconds and all the app shortcuts would have missing 'transparent' icons. After a few seconds the icons would come back and i would need to run a task killer to be able to do anything else or it would take up to 5mins even to load the FB app!
With the S2 i can just keep using it, task after task and it never slows down even a tiny bit, everything continues to be buttery smooth and instantaneous even after using several intensive apps!
The S2 never laggs at any time even when using a live wallpaper, its always buttery smooth and just as responsive. The Arc used to lag a bit when using a live wallpaper.
The S2 boots up in less than 15-20 seconds!!! The Arc took nearly a whole minute! Nothing so far has force closed and everything has opened almost instantaneously! The build quality is so much better, much sturdier and no wobbly buttons made of cheep plastic. Everything on the S2 is rock solid and built to a really high standard!
There are little bonus's with the phone too, the ROM and UI is much better designed. Theres a CM7 style settings widget in the notification tray, the music player looks and works brilliantly and includes a widget in the notification tray when its in use for album art and music controlls. Theres a 2MP front facing camera the Arc didnt have one at all and the battery seems to last longer. Theres loads of built in gestures, like pinching the screen in the browser when zoomed out brings up the tabbed windows screen, holding 2 fingers on the screen and then tilting the phone forward or back zooms in or out on photos and in the browser, holding an icon or a widget then tilting the phone left or right moves across the home screens and turning the phone upside down when you get a call silences the ring! Watch them here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxCW7U2m8dk
Theres also a wealth of handy built in apps from Samsung including a photo and video editor!, unlike the usual useless rubbish manufacturers put on phones plus even more handy stuff like built in screen capture by pressing 'home' and 'power' buttons together and it has that nice 'bump' effect the same as the iphone when you get to the top or bottom of a page or menu. Personally i find Touch Whiz 4.0 much better than the Arc launcher however i am using Launcher Pro (i had to buy i to replace the Arc's homescreen so i might as well get my moneys worth haha, plus i really like it)
All in all, reading peoples comments, i might agree that i had a faulty unit but even so, the S2 is miles ahead in my opinion. It just eats any task you give it with no hassel. Its never rebooted itself. It never laggs and has so many more built in features. The Super AmoLED screen is just breathtaking, the picture quality and colour depth must be seen to be believed!
Each is to their own, and im sure all the owners here love the Arc, but in my own opinion, especially if your a heavy user... GET THE S2!
P.S. For LiveView owners, disconnections are far and few between with the S2! With the Arc i would have to reconnect the LiveView every 1 or 2 hours whereas with the S2 i can sometimes go a whole day without needing to reconnect!

keyz86 said:
Hi all,
Now im generally not a fan of people posting 'hate' threads, but this phone has dissapointed me so much that i feel it necessary to point out why i turned to hate it and why im selling it and getting the Galaxy SII in order to help people that are thinking of buying this phone to make an advised decision.
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I am not sure what world you are talking about, but want to comment on your points..
1. It constantly lags, and almost every app force closes (and YES i have reset the phone and used both .181 and .145 versions of the firmware.
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Really??? I have more than 100 apps installed from Market & not a single app force closes & there is no lag. There are a lot of videos on youtube of ARC running smoothly with loads of apps, without lag or force close. Every review statets that & even it runs almost as sommth & fast as GalaxyS2 (Youtube Videos)
2. When the phone starts syncing accounts in the background it renders it unusable. The phone takes up to 5 minutes to load the Facebook app and longer for anything else.
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I just can't believe that. 4 Arc in my house, and not a single has a similar problem. My phone runs normalls when it syncing..
3. Sony Ericsson's stupid decision to reverse the ground and mic wires so you cant use any other wired headphones with an inline control but the ones it came with. As discussed in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045973&page=1
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I can't say anything about that coz i have no knowledge about that...
4. The camera takes too long to open.
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Really? Do you really mean it???
"The camera has its own shutter button, and you can snap up to one frame per second at full resolution (8 megapixels)." Source: http://www.amobil.no/artikler/sony_ericsson_xperia_arc/93179/3
"What we might like best about this camera is how quick it is. When you press the dedicated camera key, you are ready to take the picture in no time, and to take the picture is also faster than usual." Source: http://www.mobili.no/tester/test-av-sony-ericsson-xperia-arc/
I have never used a mobile where a camera opens as fast as it does on ARC..
5. The USB socket is on the side at the top so you have to have a landscape dock which takes up more room (obviously only applies to people that use a dock with their phones).
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Not a problem for me... But didn't you know that before buying?
6. The USB/Power lead that comes with it is angled up instead of down which i find just gets in the way.
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Not a problem for me..
7. The headphone jack is on the side (ok this is not a major issue but is annoying when getting it in and out of your pocket when you have headphones in.
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Not a problem for me... But didn't you know that before buying?
8. The headphones that come with it only have a play/pause button and no volume or any way to change tracks. (i hear theres an app that can change what the button does but it really should be there to start with!)
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And this one with Galaxy S2 is really far better? http://st.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsimg/samsung-i9100-galaxy-s-ii/review/phone/gsmarena_029.jpg
9. I bought a sim locked version which at the moment means i cant root or install custom roms.
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You can root it although it's sim locked.. But anyway, how it's a negative point when it was YOU who bought it sim lock?
10. The Sony Ericsson UI is awful and downright ugly (again you can always install a different launcher, but thats money for an app that you shouldnt need in my opinion and it just covers the home screens, as soon as you enter the Settings, Dialler or Contacts your right back in the SEUI).
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It's only personal choice, You can't tell others its ugly & awful. Many here mean that Samsung UI is awful.. But it depends on personal choice. SE UI was same when you decided to buy this phone & it was with this UI, the Arc was advertised..
11. Recording in 720p is super laggy and jolts all the time making it useless.
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A lot of videos available on net captured with Arc.. And after lastest update the minor bugs are already fixed..
I will go on to say though that the camera is the best phone camera i have ever used by far! Stunning photos everytime. And the same goes for the built in speaker.
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Thanks!!!!
And if you think Galaxy S2 would be really bugfree, then i will suggest to take a tour to Galaxy S2's section & i can only wish you good luck... And Bye!

Mano1982 said:
Really??? I have more than 100 apps installed from Market & not a single app force closes & there is no lag. There are a lot of videos on youtube of ARC running smoothly with loads of apps, without lag or force close. Every review statets that & even it runs almost as sommth & fast as GalaxyS2 (Youtube Videos)
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Mano1982 said:
I just can't believe that. 4 Arc in my house, and not a single has a similar problem. My phone runs normalls when it syncing..
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yes really, its really that bad! restore after restore i get these problems. perhaps its a faulty unit, i dont know.
Mano1982 said:
Really? Do you really mean it???
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yes i do! my phone before this was a HD7 and before that an iPhone4, both took a fraction of the time to open the camera app. and yes i am quite aware it has a dedicated camera button thank you.
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and this one with Galaxy S2 is really far better?
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no, but i expected a lot more from Sony! plus with the S2 the stupid wiring problem doesnt exist so im free to choose what ever wired headset i wish.
Mano1982 said:
You can root it although it's sim locked
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you cant root on the 2.3.3 update
Mano1982 said:
A lot of videos available on net captured with Arc.. And after lastest update the minor bugs are already fixed
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after the update the issue still exists for me otherwise i wouldnt have written about it
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And if you think Galaxy S2 would be really bugfree!
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i dont expect anything to be bug free, but after using several S2's to me it seems a lot less buggy than my Arc, again perhaps mine is faulty, but none the less for me personally i prefer the Samsung UI and features (built in gestures, settings on the notifications tray like in CM7 and all the little things that the Arc seems to be missing)

I do admit that my misses Arc keeps force closing and randomly rebooting but she still loves it I prefer the I9000 as u can see....can do more with it in regards to CM7....it works wonders on the I9000 but I'm not so sure about the Arc due its complexity of inner workings I.e bravia engine etc and the galaxy s 2 is pretty much the same as the I9000 just a faster processor and more ram...everything else is the same lol....personal preference....I9000
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Facebook takes 10 sec to open on mine :-D
For UI...yup dey sux whether its Samsung,lg,htc or SE. Using launcher pro instead
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I have to agree with the video recording...BUT, when you play it back on another device/player the jittery lag is non existent. good luck with your new phone anyway.

Hmmmmm... I have been tossing up between the Arc and the S2 for several days now. I know the S2 is higher spec'ed but after reading reviews about the arc I decided that for my needs, the arc would be fine. After reading this though I just don't know...

The only one of those issues that is real is the headphone wiring one.. Everything else is either personal preference or faulty unit.
Sent from the Arc.

im_iceman said:
The only one of those issues that is real is the headphone wiring one.. Everything else is either personal preference or faulty unit.
Sent from the Arc.
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So the force close thing is a faulty unit? With a new baby on the way this is going to be the last phone I'll be able to buy for a while so I want to make sure I make the right choice. I'm upgrading from a Samsung Captivate so if the force close thing is a faulty unit, then everything else is going to be alot better than I currently have?

Of course it's a faulty unit.
Or some **** software installed.
Normally Arc is super snappy.

doministry said:
Of course it's a faulty unit.
Or some **** software installed.
Normally Arc is super snappy.
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Thanks mate, I'll be getting mine first thing in the morning now

Hey i want to know about the sound quality of arc in headphone?
i am not a audiophile but i use phone to listen songs(daily 2hours or more),,right now i am having w705 with modded acoustic and it give good sound and beats.....so i want to know is sound quality of arc in headphone is good or bad?
i am thinking of upgrading my phone..........
please give genuine advice...........

djice000 said:
I do admit that my misses Arc keeps force closing and randomly rebooting
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is it true?

abhisheak.bansal said:
is it true?
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It may well be, he may have got a bad one and should take it back for an exchange. Most people's arcs are rock solid though.

can u answer sound quality question mentioned above?

keyz86 said:
1. It constantly lags, and almost every app force closes (and YES i have reset the phone and used both .181 and .145 versions of the firmware.
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IMO you have a duff phone or dodgy apps installed. If youve reset and it's still doing it it sounds like hardware so you should take it back for an exchange. Seriously, my arc is rock solid and it *flies*.
2. When the phone starts syncing accounts in the background it renders it unusable. The phone takes up to 5 minutes to load the Facebook app and longer for anything else.
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Almost certainly caused by same problem as 1.
4. The camera takes too long to open.
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I agree on this one. Also the button is too fiddly and unreliable. SE get a free pass from me on this one cos the camera is simply amazing otherwise.
6. The USB/Power lead that comes with it is angled up instead of down which i find just gets in the way.
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Personally i think it's the right way round, but if it's annoying you could always buy another lead.
9. I bought a sim locked version which at the moment means i cant root or install custom roms.
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Ah, well you have only yourself to blame for this one. Research better before purchasing next time. (or just be patient and wait for someone to crack the bootloader)
10. The Sony Ericsson UI is awful and downright ugly (again you can always install a different launcher, but thats money for an app that you shouldnt need in my opinion and it just covers the home screens, as soon as you enter the Settings, Dialler or Contacts your right back in the SEUI).
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Couldnt disagree more, i think it's a million miles better than anything samsung or htc have produced. But horses for courses innit. As for 3rd party launchers - the ability to change launchers is one of the joys of android, and plenty of good ones are FREE.
The dialer is pretty crap though (i recommend dialer2 from the market).
11. Recording in 720p is super laggy and jolts all the time making it useless.
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AFAIK this has been fixed in the recent firmware, probably related to your hardware problem in 1.
Cant really comment on your headphone issues, but they sound like reasonable things to have a problem with. Personally i think you have a faulty handset so i'd take it back if i were you. If the headphone issues and UI style are a dealbreaker i guess then the arc just isnt for you, but if not try again with working handset - dont dismiss the phone as being laggy/buggy because you got a duff one.

The Arc isn't really a bad phone....if your having problems with FCs etc then as Davey said it probably a dodgy app or a hardware fault. The only thing I don't like about it is the bootup time....it takes forever lol other than that its really snappy
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Hey i want to know about the sound quality of arc in headphone?
i am not a audiophile but i use phone to listen songs(daily 2hours or more),,right now i am having w705 with modded acoustic and it give good sound and beats.....so i want to know is sound quality of arc in headphone is good or bad?
i am thinking of upgrading my phone..........
please give genuine advice...........
sorry for double post

Yeah it does every now and again....but it doesn't bother her and it takes forever to boot up, even when fresh out of the box lol
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abhisheak.bansal said:
can u answer sound quality question mentioned above?
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Personally i've only used it a couple of times as an mp3 player - but it's been pretty good, at least as good as my dedicated mp3 player.
However i havent even touched the supplied headphones, so cant comment on those either way.

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Thanks for the review, however I can't watch the video because my workplace has blocked youtube. What is the overall verdict? Good or Bad? Also, is it waterproof?
I love the look of this watch.

thank you very much for the review, the truth that I like, you know any way I can upgrade to 4.3 to work with smarthpone.
thank you very much

BigBison420 said:
Video review of S5 smart watch / ZGPAX. Purchased from TechDirect @ ecrater.com - $177 shipped
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgHMAffmk9w&feature=youtu.be
Used Framaroot.apk to root... No computer necessary.
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Well its gotten wet in the rain so far withou any adverse effect... Not going to submerge in water tho lol..
Its lacking tru call handling and notifications support at the moment. Doesnt quite 'integrate' with my note 2 just yet (running 4.3)... But i can seemlessly send pictures, apps, video via Bluetooth consistently without any issues. Wifi works 110% perfect.
As a watch its great... Just added GO locker for more variety. Its def for those gadget geeks who are really good with this kind of stuff
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have you tried paring bluetooth headset to it?
by "Its lacking tru call handling" do you mean that it is not capable of receiving and making calls?

Well the watch itself is a phone.. And this is how its recognized via bluetooth. U can do file transfer and stuff but it doesnt really interface with your primary smart phone.... I believe they are still working on the application to make this possible. They appear to be doing things a little backwards
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BigBison420 said:
Well the watch itself is a phone.. And this is how its recognized via bluetooth. U can do file transfer and stuff but it doesnt really interface with your primary smart phone.... I believe they are still working on the application to make this possible. They appear to be doing things a little backwards
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Nice! Have you tried using the app tablet talk? I'm ordering one very soon. Also did yours come with the play store? If not I may have an idea to get it working.

BigBison420 said:
Well the watch itself is a phone.. And this is how its recognized via bluetooth. U can do file transfer and stuff but it doesnt really interface with your primary smart phone.... I believe they are still working on the application to make this possible. They appear to be doing things a little backwards
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Please take some shot with phone's camera and upload! I'd like to see the camera quality. Maybe video if it is possible. THX!

Can you tether it to a phone so you can use the phone's internet connection? This is something most smartwatches seem to be lacking, even though it should be included if the manufacturer doesn't mess with the software (i.e. removing that option intentionally)

irkan said:
have you tried paring bluetooth headset to it?
by "Its lacking tru call handling" do you mean that it is not capable of receiving and making calls?
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I meant that it is lacking phone pair connectivity. Such as ; if you get a text the phone cannot notify you, or if you have a call coming in the watch will not notify you... this software doesn't exist yet. I have tried numerous apps on play store but no luck as of yet.

m34n1ng said:
Nice! Have you tried using the app tablet talk? I'm ordering one very soon. Also did yours come with the play store? If not I may have an idea to get it working.
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yes, came with play store... downloaded and installed plenty of apps...
haven't tried tablet talk yet.

janek69 said:
Please take some shot with phone's camera and upload! I'd like to see the camera quality. Maybe video if it is possible. THX!
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It's a 2 mega pixel camera... the quality isn't too bad overall... video quality is actually Very Good... i sent a video from the watch to my galaxy note 2 and the resolution was very surprising..... it was good. not too much distortion - The only thing is that the frame rate is less so you will noticing a little skipping vs a high quality galaxy note or s4 camera would take.. this is expected though.

Hey ,
Can you tell us if the watch has vibration?
Does it vibrate when you get a call or a sms/email?

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It's a 2 mega pixel camera... the quality isn't too bad overall... video quality is actually Very Good... i sent a video from the watch to my galaxy note 2 and the resolution was very surprising..... it was good. not too much distortion - The only thing is that the frame rate is less so you will noticing a little skipping vs a high quality galaxy note or s4 camera would take.. this is expected though.
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Can you upload some sample images or videos please?
I really appreciate the effort of this watch's Chinese manufacturer. IMO, this watch is even better than all of the so-called "smart watch" on the market at the moment :good: (edit: especially the Galaxy Gear)

luigiwidmore said:
Hey ,
Can you tell us if the watch has vibration?
Does it vibrate when you get a call or a sms/email?
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I can't tell you about the call as I have not put a sim card in it yet, but It does have vibration capabilities as it vibrates when you turn off the watch. The vibration is nice and strong.

thank you very much , you just made my day
I have just ordered it from chinavasion and got me to 179 including dhl shipping
My next question is about the battery , how much would it last for a wifi video call for example?

luigiwidmore said:
thank you very much , you just made my day
I have just ordered it from chinavasion and got me to 179 including dhl shipping
My next question is about the battery , how much would it last for a wifi video call for example?
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On my watch, The battery does drain pretty fast and it runs very hot. I am not sure if others here have the same problem, but I am about to play around with a Governor app too see if I can improve battery life/cool it down.

fibroman said:
On my watch, The battery does drain pretty fast and it runs very hot. I am not sure if others here have the same problem, but I am about to play around with a Governor app too see if I can improve battery life/cool it down.
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I thing i haven't tried is changing the governor to POWERSAVE while running the STOCK LAUNCHER.
Of course i'm on ADW EX launcher so it would be stupid to run powersave...

Does the ZGPAX S5 support 3G?
Sometimes I read is does, sometimes it does`nt has anybody test it by now?

CYberdog11 said:
Does the ZGPAX S5 support 3G?
Sometimes I read is does, sometimes it does`nt has anybody test it by now?
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Good question. If it does have 3G, anyone tried hotspoting it yet? Would be great to be able to have a wrist hotspot.
Be nice to know if this chip set has a GPS bc navigation would be great if it is supported too.

Is your top speaker louder?

Just received my device and its perfect...except for the top speaker being louder than the bottom one. I've seen other posts with people having the same issue so I want to see how many people this is affecting before I exchange mine.
I also noticed that at max volume they seem balanced but anything below that then the top is definitely louder.

same issue...top speaker is louder
jamespat93 said:
Just received my device and its perfect...except for the top speaker being louder than the bottom one. I've seen other posts with people having the same issue so I want to see how many people this is affecting before I exchange mine.
I also noticed that at max volume they seem balanced but anything below that then the top is definitely louder.
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I had google call me and they told me its that way by design...um, well that sucks... does the htc one m8 have this issue? anyone know

I noticed this as well, but it's a really minor difference, at least on my phone. I'm fine with it.

doneuemf said:
I had google call me and they told me its that way by design...um, well that sucks... does the htc one m8 have this issue? anyone know
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My HTC m7 had that issue but it was much less noticeable
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doneuemf said:
does the htc one m8 have this issue? anyone know
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I've had the M7, M8, M9, and a Moto X Pure.. They were all very well balanced /even sounding speakers. My N6P, is not..... And likes the OP, mine does balance out as you turn it up almost full volume.

doneuemf said:
I had google call me and they told me its that way by design...um, well that sucks... does the htc one m8 have this issue? anyone know
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I'm guessing Google are now just saying this so they don't have to keep exchanging phones.
daewond3r said:
I noticed this as well, but it's a really minor difference, at least on my phone. I'm fine with it.
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For me it ruins the stereo effect of the phone...and 'stereo speakers' are part of the package we paid for when we bought this phone. At max volume they're fine so maybe it is a software issue.
Does anyone know how to edit the speaker gain xml or whatever?

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Does anyone know how to edit the speaker gain xml or whatever?
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I don't know that, but you can always try something like PowerAmp and mess with the balance. This doesn't help with videos or YouTube (or Google music), but for listening to MP3's through the phone speakers it will help.

jamespat93 said:
Just received my device and its perfect...except for the top speaker being louder than the bottom one. I've seen other posts with people having the same issue so I want to see how many people this is affecting before I exchange mine.
I also noticed that at max volume they seem balanced but anything below that then the top is definitely louder.
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I just got off phone with tech support, cleared my cache data and speakers are working great now..both at same volume..give it a try.

Top one might be slightly louder, but not that noticeable. I don't use speakers much anyways.

tele_jas said:
I don't know that, but you can always try something like PowerAmp and mess with the balance. This doesn't help with videos or YouTube (or Google music), but for listening to MP3's through the phone speakers it will help.
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Yeah that's a good idea. Hopefully someone can come up with something system wide though.
doneuemf said:
I just got off phone with tech support, cleared my cache data and speakers are working great now..both at same volume..give it a try.
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Wow so they're working perfectly now? How do you clear cache data?

jamespat93 said:
Yeah that's a good idea. Hopefully someone can come up with something system wide though.
Wow so they're working perfectly now? How do you clear cache data?
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yes perfect, both at same level...go to your settings, go to storage and app...click on cached data and click ok

doneuemf said:
yes perfect, both at same level...go to your settings, go to storage and app...click on cached data and click ok
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Thanks, I cleared my my cache but it didn't fix my speakers
Did they give you anything else you could try? Or did they say why clearing your cache would fix them? Isit a bug or something?

doneuemf said:
I just got off phone with tech support, cleared my cache data and speakers are working great now..both at same volume..give it a try.
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LMAO, clearing your cache most certainly did not fix a hardware issue.

ageesm said:
LMAO, clearing your cache most certainly did not fix a hardware issue.
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This could possibly be a software fault though...cause at max volume the speakers are balanced.

jamespat93 said:
This could possibly be a software fault though...cause at max volume the speakers are balanced.
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It does not appear to be a software fault. The drivers are different sizes, set in different enclosures (the bottom houses a microphone etc), so they are bound to sound different. Even at full volume, while more balanced, the tone is still different between the two. Can the balance be fixed with a software tweak? Certainly, hopefully it will be, but clearing cache has nothing to do with it.

ageesm said:
It does not appear to be a software fault. The drivers are different sizes, set in different enclosures (the bottom houses a microphone etc), so they are bound to sound different. Even at full volume, while more balanced, the tone is still different between the two. Can the balance be fixed with a software tweak? Certainly, hopefully it will be, but clearing cache has nothing to do with it.
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Yeah the drivers being different sizes makes sense and would explain the difference but looking at the poll quite a few people have said their speakers are balanced?
Surely Google and Huawei wouldn't have overlooked this when designing the phone, especially when nexus 6 didnt have this problem. At first I thought it was a hardware fault too and was going to exchange my phone but I'm not sure atm.
Either way I hope a software tweak can fix this too.

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Yeah the drivers being different sizes makes sense and would explain the difference but looking at the poll quite a few people have said their speakers are balanced?
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Some people are tone deaf.

jamespat93 said:
This could possibly be a software fault though...cause at max volume the speakers are balanced.
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At max volume, the speakers are reported to be more equal on most people's devices who are reporting this problem. I am on my second Nexus 6P after I requested an RMA for the speaker issue and both have had the unequal speaker balance. Both are also much more even at maximum volume. I think some people are just much more receptive to the difference than others and there is likely some variation between devices as well.

I have this phone for rew days now and I already noticed that the top speaker is slightly louder than the bottom one. I understand that the bottom one is a bit smaller because it has to include the microphone as well but they should fix it with a software update.

I did clear the cache, and it works, not at all, but okay, before clear cache, my top speaker so loud, almost cant hear bot speaker at high volume, after the cache cleared, its only have slightly different, just a little louder on the top
O ya, i have htc one m8 too, but dont have this problem, its sound fantastic

Today recieved Chinese Axon 7 128G+6Gb , You can ask anything!

Ill try answering asap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb6-b88uFGc
This is my review of the phone. it's my first one so don't expect fireworks!

Is there a notification led?

If you can give us some camera samples in low light it would be great. What do you think about the camera and what telephone did you have previously?
Thanks!
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XblackdemonX said:
Is there a notification led?
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Yep Just below and to the left of the front facing camera. Multi color.

dondavis007 said:
If you can give us some camera samples in low light it would be great. What do you think about the camera and what telephone did you have previously?
Thanks!
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I had Note5 . Haven't tried the camera properly yet, but just took some pics in low\semi low light.
P.s
Let me know if the quality is enough. If not, give me a website I can upload full pictures.

Where did you get it from and is there any disadvantages from a normal US/international version?

Can you install Aida64 and post the codecs supported specifically the OMX.qcom.video.decoder Interested to see what hardware video codecs it supports. Hoping for h264, hevc, VC1, MPEG2 and more!

Thanks for sharing dude !
Is there capactive or on-screen button ?

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Where did you get it from and is there any disadvantages from a normal US/international version?
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I live in China. bought it in www.jd.com. Cost 4100 RMB(=622.69 usd).
I've installed Google services without root, so at the moment can't tell the difference between this and international ver.
Kantana said:
Can you install Aida64 and post the codecs supported specifically the OMX.qcom.video.decoder Interested to see what hardware video codecs it supports. Hoping for h264, hevc, VC1, MPEG2 and more!
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attached screenshots.
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Thanks for sharing dude !
Is there capactive or on-screen button ?
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Captive.

OMG, I'm sold! I see h263/h264/hevc/MPEG4/DivX311/DivX4/DivX/MPEG2/VP8/VP9 for video codecs and AC3/EAC/Flac for audio codecs. This is perfect for my video codecs!
Now just need a reliable source to buy this from.

I ordered one of these from spemall.com last week, I wish they would hurry up and ship it. I don't remember seeing the fairly small "presale" text almost hidden on the product page now when I made the purchase. I hope they aren't holding back international purchases of this Chinese version for their international launch.

Thank you for the quick reply !
Good to now that "normal" 6/128gb version has the capacitive buttons.
On the codec side, good to see hevc, i just hope that they did use up to date one from dc so it supports 10 bits^^

Im not an audiophile, unfortunately, but I do appreciate a good sound quality as I have Sennheiser Wireless, and v-moda m100 and constantly listening to Dubstep\hardstyle\rock etc. I listened for a few minutes without to much equalizing and it sounds very good. Later I will root and install viper4android and hopefully it will work on marshmallow. My note5 didn't :\

How far is MiFavor UI 4.0 from AOSP visually and functionally? OK, I know that there is no original Gapps. But what about other functionalities? Does the phone have dialer which is close to android (Google) dialer or totally customized one? Does it support voice recording? Google contacts, if installed? Native sip (internet) calling? Thank you.

piskr said:
How far is MiFavor UI 4.0 from AOSP visually and functionally?
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I am hoping that they have used the AOSP recent apps list and drop down quick settings rather than the way that MIUI and EUI do them.

If you have a Type-C -> hdmi/power in/usb A, could you give a try to that ?
As in, can you output to a screen through HDMI while charging and using a keyboard.
Cheers

piskr said:
How far is MiFavor UI 4.0 from AOSP visually and functionally? OK, I know that there is no original Gapps. But what about other functionalities? Does the phone have dialer which is close to android (Google) dialer or totally customized one? Does it support voice recording? Google contacts, if installed? Native sip (internet) calling? Thank you.
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Hmm. The chinese UI is very customized, I wanted to barf when I saw it the first time. Also because this is high configuration, its made of gold color, hardware and software. The notifications tray is actually nice, and after I nova prime the **** out of the phone , it looks great!
There are alot of functions, can't list them all, better watch youtube. But theres forcetouch(works very poorly, need software update), floating icon that can go back,take screen shot etc. You can have duplicate apps (wechat, whatsapp etc), voice activation and much more, I like it so far. Also for a full day not one force close.
Yes it supports voice recording (in dialer and regular).
No google what so ever, you can install seperatly though.
Don't think theres internet calling.
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I am hoping that they have used the AOSP recent apps list and drop down quick settings rather than the way that MIUI and EUI do them.
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Yep, its like AOSP.

MrNux said:
If you have a Type-C -> hdmi/power in/usb A, could you give a try to that ?
As in, can you output to a screen through HDMI while charging and using a keyboard.
Cheers
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Sorry, don't have it. There's screen cast, never tried it though.

Is there app for FM Radio?
Thanks

Seven Winds said:
Sorry, don't have it. There's screen cast, never tried it though.
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Thanks anyway !

Better sound in stock ROM, it's possible?

Hi, I have S8 Exynos version and would like to give a better sound to it. It's possible to improve sound quality without root?
Other issue about de sound that bothering me, it's the min. volume of the phone. When I'm listening to an WhatsApp audio, or even a common call, the minimum volume it still a lit bit loud to me. If anyone it's near me, the person can listen to it. Anyway to solve this without root too?
Thanks

I use Poweramp. It does enhance the music output significantly.

How you installed any app recently or the phone has been behaving like this ever since you bought it?

RossTeagan said:
How you installed any app recently or the phone has been behaving like this ever since you bought it?
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Didn't understand your question

mbashat said:
I use Poweramp. It does enhance the music output significantly.
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I'm using it around 7 years. really great player for good sound

thiagomed said:
Didn't understand your question
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The sound issue is present ever since you bought the phone? Or you noticed it recently?
I am asking because I want to know if the root cause of this issue is due to manufacturing or developed after you have installed an app.

RossTeagan said:
The sound issue is present ever since you bought the phone? Or you noticed it recently?
I am asking because I want to know if the root cause of this issue is due to manufacturing or developed after you have installed an app.
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It's not an really issue, is just something that bother me because I don't have a good amplification and like I said, the minimum volume of audios in calls or whatsapp audios it's too loud

I compared with my friend's iPhone X and noticed immediaty the sound from the iPhone X blew my Galaxy S8 Active right away!
The iPhone X speaker has much fuller rich tone and bass. Galaxy S8 sounds like all tremble.