Note 4 vs Note 2 (and Note 3), what's missing - Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

After reading more than 1 person complaining about stuff from the Note 3 that's missing on the Note 4. Although I've never used the Note 3 it occurred to me that I don't have stuff that I had on the Note 2. There was a 2 month time frame where I was using the LG G3, so I can't recall everything, but I know the Note 2 had different home screens based on what you're doing. For example, if you plug in headphones it brought up a screen for related apps.
I can't believe that that's not on the Note 4. What other things have been removed since the Note 2, and for the sake of interest, the Note 3?

I miss note2 photo editor...
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I'm going to buy Note 4 this month, and I know that I'll miss temperature and humidity sensors, which I can find now in my Note 3...

Wooba99 said:
After reading more than 1 person complaining about stuff from the Note 3 that's missing on the Note 4. Although I've never used the Note 3 it occurred to me that I don't have stuff that I had on the Note 2. There was a 2 month time frame where I was using the LG G3, so I can't recall everything, but I know the Note 2 had different home screens based on what you're doing. For example, if you plug in headphones it brought up a screen for related apps.
I can't believe that that's not on the Note 4. What other things have been removed since the Note 2, and for the sake of interest, the Note 3?
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there is a **** load of stuff missing from note 4 your right about headphone buddy,no air view for fingers,music and phone and alarm voice control missing,bubbles from music art,no photo note where you could write on rear of photos,no reader mode,No eye scroll or Web page magnification with fingers,no group play that's unbelievable,no volume increase in pocket Plus other stuff like Tag buddy in gallery....strange thing is all these are in the hidden settings but don't work even when turned on,I don't understand it at least give people the choice to have them but turn them off its no big deal for Samsung as they have the software already....

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I miss note2 photo editor...
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Photo editor is still there
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Galaxy Note 2 and now 8.0 overkill?

I've been looking at tablets for the past month as I'm taking college courses (yes I'm 40 but close to being done) thus fall. Like all over you I feel I've owned almost every tablet other than the Windows platforms.
My desires were nice screen, note taking ability, nice sound, expandability, and some longevity.
My favorite of the ipads androids was the Galaxy Note 10.1. The wacom stylus and speed were super. I got rid of it because it felt a little big and I would forget it when I needed it.
I thought hard about the Surface especially with the price cut, but I have an i5 laptop so it seemed redundant. The new Nexus sure has a great speed camera and sound. But no expandability and not feasible to take notes. But it would do nothing more than be an entertainment device and I own a Galaxy Note 2 that does that pretty well.
So last night after weeks of reviews and pluses and minuses I found a GN 8.0 for 300.00 with free ship and brand new in box. I just jumped on impulse and bought it.
My issues with the 10.1 was it was large and a fuzzy screen. So I am thinking the GN 8.0 the screen should be less fuzzy as less real estate but big enough to take notes and hopefully small enough to remember.
Then this morning I woke up and realized I just spent 300.00 on a 3 inch bigger Note.
The deal itself is a good one. The question is after this long story is Have I over killed the Note by getting just a little bit bigger???
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I think the Note 2 and 8.0 compliment each other nicely. I currently use both, and despite what some think about the "phablet," it's definitely a phone. Reading, web browsing, video watching, and many other experiences are much better on a larger display. You made a great choice IMO.
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I sold my note 2 and ipad 4 and replaced them both with the note 8 n5100 with sim, so far im very pleased the note 8 does everything, ive got a 64gb sd card, my vodaphone sim so i can surf text and take calls everywhere on just one device, without tethering or messing about, i swapped to the note 8 as one device as a test, but even with some great phablets due out at the end of this year surrendering my note 8 for a smaller faster phablet will still be a hard to do.
My previous favourite was also the note 10.1, but i now prefer my note 8!
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worth it/
I believe as long as you do some mods to the note 8.0 its worth keeping. First change the layout to tablet not the phablet form it comes with. Then a nice change of launcher and I believe its very useful. Synch them both up to each other and you have a useable note taking tablet with lots of memory. I have imported 4 school books into Snote and works very well. The screen is a good enough size to do reading and the note taking is much better on the 8 then it ever was on the note 2. I use note 2 to take down numbers and little hints but as a study instrument the note 8.0 is only choice is you need stylus.
sdelliott31 said:
I've been looking at tablets for the past month as I'm taking college courses (yes I'm 40 but close to being done) thus fall. Like all over you I feel I've owned almost every tablet other than the Windows platforms.
My desires were nice screen, note taking ability, nice sound, expandability, and some longevity.
My favorite of the ipads androids was the Galaxy Note 10.1. The wacom stylus and speed were super. I got rid of it because it felt a little big and I would forget it when I needed it.
I thought hard about the Surface especially with the price cut, but I have an i5 laptop so it seemed redundant. The new Nexus sure has a great speed camera and sound. But no expandability and not feasible to take notes. But it would do nothing more than be an entertainment device and I own a Galaxy Note 2 that does that pretty well.
So last night after weeks of reviews and pluses and minuses I found a GN 8.0 for 300.00 with free ship and brand new in box. I just jumped on impulse and bought it.
My issues with the 10.1 was it was large and a fuzzy screen. So I am thinking the GN 8.0 the screen should be less fuzzy as less real estate but big enough to take notes and hopefully small enough to remember.
Then this morning I woke up and realized I just spent 300.00 on a 3 inch bigger Note.
The deal itself is a good one. The question is after this long story is Have I over killed the Note by getting just a little bit bigger???
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Changing mode to tablet mode? Is thus a setting or a mod which you need to be rooted?
A lot to catch up once I get the tablet.
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Most apps see the note 8 as a tablet, but if you get apex launcher it has a setting to turn the launcher into a tablet layout
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I'm interested in this as well how do you do this?
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I'm interested in this as well how do you do this?
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sdelliott31 said:
Changing mode to tablet mode? Is thus a setting or a mod which you need to be rooted?
A lot to catch up once I get the tablet.
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You change the dpi in the build.prop to 160 (and below) and that kicks the tablet UI into play.
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cj31016 said:
I think the Note 2 and 8.0 compliment each other nicely. I currently use both, and despite what some think about the "phablet," it's definitely a phone. Reading, web browsing, video watching, and many other experiences are much better on a larger display. You made a great choice IMO.
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Totally agree. Lol, and I did the same as the OP, bought my note 8 on a whim because I found a good deal, then wondered if I had made a mistake 2 hours later. I can say I don't regret my purchase one bit. For me the note 2 is a PERFECT phone. Great performance, great battery life, and what I now consider to be an ideal size screen for a phone. That being said, I find the note 2 useless for taking any kind of notes. The only time I use the spen is for annotating the odd photo. I just find it a little too small (especially for a lefty) to be as quick or efficient as a pen and paper. When I tried a bit of note taking on the note 8, it was a night and day difference. As far as the screen, it won't make you say "wow" like an htc one , but you probably won't be disappointed with it either. I would describe it as perfectly acceptable. I don't think you'll regret your purchase.
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Note 8 and note 2
I have both and am very happy with them. I use the note 8 to take notes at lectures and my note 2 for calls and entertainment.
Thanks to all. After thinking it to death and obsessing finally some common sense crept in. I love my Note 2 and use it all the time but mainly for texting and looking at fb and YouTube. I may use the stylus once a month but wouldn't trade my phone. I have a 64gb sandisk with tons of movies yet never watch them. Oooh. I love taking pictures with this phone. So easy and good quality.
I am so thinking the movies ebooks and stylus use will increase with the Note 8.0.
Thanks for talking me off the ledge a bit. The one thing that resonated from people here and other threads is the nexus 7 is solid but almost too small while the 8.0 was bigger but not 10.1 or notebook big. That's kind of what went through my mind when I made the purchase.
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I was on the wall for 20 days thinking should i buy the note 8 when i have the note 2....lol... At last got it. .... But I would have loved only wifi model... It would have been cheaper, here in India you only get the 3g+wifi model... still, no regrets
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pakure said:
I was on the wall for 20 days thinking should i buy the note 8 when i have the note 2....lol... At last got it. .... But I would have loved only wifi model... It would have been cheaper, here in India you only get the 3g+wifi model... still, no regrets
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That's quite weird, coz the 3G+ Wi-Fi model seems to be as rare as hens teeth here in the UK, at least it was when I got mine a couple of weeks ago, the one I have now was imported from India.
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I have an OG Note and the Note 8, and I can safely say it's not overkill. I love both, and there is some overlap, but for the most part, I use the devices very differently.
I have both the Note II and 8. The Note II has always been handy in my daily commute, and the Note 8 when you sit to do a bit of work or at home.
At times needed, I connect the II onto a projector, and with RemoDroid mirror-cast whatever I have on my Note 8's screen. It's great for presentations and drawing demonstrations. There's a bit of stutter, but it works.
Android is so much better than the competition.
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lwsoccjs said:
I believe as long as you do some mods to the note 8.0 its worth keeping. First change the layout to tablet not the phablet form it comes with. Then a nice change of launcher and I believe its very useful. Synch them both up to each other and you have a useable note taking tablet with lots of memory. I have imported 4 school books into Snote and works very well. The screen is a good enough size to do reading and the note taking is much better on the 8 then it ever was on the note 2. I use note 2 to take down numbers and little hints but as a study instrument the note 8.0 is only choice is you need stylus.
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How do you change the layout to Tablet?
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Well you can either change the DPI or tablet or just download the app note 8 mode switcher and use that its pretty simple and straight forward its In The boards I think under apps and themes.
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How do you change the layout to Tablet?
Thanks
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I've got a 6 inch phone too but I use the note 8 more. When on wifi I use it as my phone as well to make calls and text. I don't mind having both. My son is happy because he can hog my phone now though. If you're wondering I imported a pantech Vega 6 from Korea.
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guys..i noted that my note 8 does not get charged with my note 2 charger though it works the other way around...i get an X on the battery symbol and the battery in settings shows discharging status..
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guys..i noted that my note 8 does not get charged with my note 2 charger though it works the other way around...i get an X on the battery symbol and the battery in settings shows discharging status..
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Check the current rating on the chargers, though it's interesting that your note 2 charger is different from your note 8 charger. The ones packaged with my devices were both identical 2a Samsung units.
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[Q] Note 3 or S4 (user opinion)

got a fair amount of hard earned cash to spend (enough for a note 3 or s4) on a new phone. I would prefer to get the note 3 as i like large phablets and have always been a fan of the note series. However, I have never physically seen one or used one. So before I go and spend £600 on a phone I would like to get a user opinion. Should I get the note 3? Or should I get the S4 instead?
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It's more convenient than the n1 & n2.
But you need to try it.
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It's more convenient than the n1 & n2.
But you need to try it.
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That's what I intend to do. However I've checked all my local (and not so local) phone shops and none of them actually have a physical one there for people to use
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Go for Note 3, I've upgraded to a Note 3 coming from the S4, far better!
Note 3
Get the Note 3, you will not regret it.
It barely heats up, it has AMAZING battery life.
NO ROOT and STOCK rom but I am getting 2 days of use from one charge easy
If I use REALLLY Heavy (Playing lots of 3D GAMES, Browsing, YOUTUBE HD, ALL LTE never WIFI It lasts me a full day, I still ALWAYS have 20-30% battery life when I go to sleep after this usage.
Other normal usage, I am not worried if i forget to charge cause I have about 60% batt remaining.
AMAZING
The specs is the BEST on the market atm too.
You will not regret the Note 3
No lie on the battery life, all those little time eater games I enjoy playing throughout the day used to kill my S3 by lunch, but the Note 3 I still come home with 30-40% left, the battery just keeps going and going.
And I must admit that I have become addicted to the large screen size, it's actually very comfortable to just kick back and surf the web on this phone, I'm not hunching or squinting for anything anymore and I've become fond of that fact.
If you like bigger devices already to begin with, go for the Note 3. You will come to regret buying a smaller device eventually if you go for the S4. (I most certainly did.)
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got a fair amount of hard earned cash to spend (enough for a note 3 or s4) on a new phone. I would prefer to get the note 3 as i like large phablets and have always been a fan of the note series. However, I have never physically seen one or used one. So before I go and spend £600 on a phone I would like to get a user opinion. Should I get the note 3? Or should I get the S4 instead?
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NOTE 3 for sure
faster larger screen and the most important advantage over S4 the stylus ( s pen ):good:
Everyone on this thread will tell you note 3 as we all have it but seriously though Note 3 FTW! Everything that needs to be said has being said.
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I come from an S4 too. The Note 3 is a perfect fit for me size-wise and feature-wise (s-pen basically). IMHO if you think the s3 or s4 are uncomfortably big , you definitely need to try the N3 before buying. If you can handle a couple more of centimeters in your pocket, I would go for the Note without hesitation
¡¡So say we all!! From my Galaxy Note 3 (SM-N9005)
As a former s4 owner I'm going to let you guess which gets my vote.
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I have both, the note 3 has all the feature of the S4 plus the spen which gives you more things to play with. On the downside the Knox warranty void is a hassle if you want to run custom firmware, especially if there is a problem down the track, but then again the later firmware versions of the S4 has Knox, and the warranty void, too....
I also have both (will sell s4 actually) and i must say note series are always refined and perfected ones compared to s series. It has been like that in s3/note2 and believe me it is the same for s4/note3. Maybe a smaller margin but it is still there.
Personally i was waiting for the nexus 5 but it doesnt have enough space and i don't like on screen buttons.
I can't see why there's a lot of complaints about region locking and the knox software ?
I mean its a year warranty i've had many phones for over a year and never needed to return them ?
My Note 3 should arrive tomororow :highfive:
choose the one that fits you.
i come from s4.but i like note3's big screen.
I have both and I strongly recommend Note 3!
Ok I think I know which one to go for
Also, used a Note 3 in Phones4U the other day and was utterly blown away.
Thanks for all the feedback everyone it's most appreciated
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I come from an S4 too. The Note 3 is a perfect fit for me size-wise and feature-wise (s-pen basically). IMHO if you think the s3 or s4 are uncomfortably big , you definitely need to try the N3 before buying. If you can handle a couple more of centimeters in your pocket, I would go for the Note without hesitation
¡¡So say we all!! From my Galaxy Note 3 (SM-N9005)
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In terms of having room in my pocket I should be fine. I can fit my 7-inch Galaxy Tab 2 in there so a note 3 should be no problem lol
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I got both and I prefer my N3.:good:
Get Note 3. It has more features (s pen) and is around the same price as S4 (at least for my region...)
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Note 4 vs. Note 3

I got the note 4 yesterday, a day ahead of most people. I've been testing it throughly and to my shock, I'm finding my note 3 running MOAR to be working faster, longer, and better.
Take for example the photo below. The note 4 is on the left and the note 3 running MOAR on the right. Isn't it amazing the difference in quality?
I don't blame the phone. I blame 4.4.4 for messing up what could have been an awesome smart phone. I'm returning mine today.
Battery? The note 4 battery is at 48% at 1:00 pm while my note 3 is at 80%. I use gsam battery and it breaks down what is using battery and the system and kernel on the note 4 are using almost 30% while the note 3 uses about 18%.
So, for all those of you that own a note 3, beware, you will be disappointed if you upgrade.
And if my advise saved you from disappointment, I believe a thank you would be in order.
new battery ........ give it a week of cycles
Samsung came out and said there was an issue with the battery last week. They have already issued an update. Tmobile started getting it today. We should be getting it in the ne,t fews days. Search google for comparisons of this version and the update. Battery seems fixed after the update.
I actually think the lefthand picture looks better.
Brighter doesn't mean better.
Hard to compare something you've used for a year to something you just got. Give it some time.
Good to hear they've got a fix for the battery. Actually, I flashed 4.4.4 on my note 3 and it was eating up my battery as well. Hope they release a fix for those that upgraded their note 3s to 4.4.4.
But seriously, the camera was my biggest disappointment.
And the photos don't lie.
I guess that if there is any good news is that the note 4 will be the first one to get lollipop and that should take care of many issues. Feb my bet.
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I actually think the lefthand picture looks better.
Brighter doesn't mean better.
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JAG50 said:
Good to hear they've got a fix for the battery. Actually, I flashed 4.4.4 on my note 3 and it was eating up my battery as well. Hope they release a fix for those that upgraded their note 3s to 4.4.4.
But seriously, the camera was my biggest disappointment.
And the photos don't lie.
I guess that if there is any good news is that the note 4 will be the first one to get lollipop and that should take care of many issues. Feb my bet.
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I'm gonna have to agree ENkrypt.. The picture on the left looks much clearer and realistic while the one on the right looks way off like a insta gram filter was on top of it (excuse my lack of the appropriate vocabulary in describing camera quality).
And I ditto the fact that you need to give the new battery some full to dead cycles before you can make an accurate statement on the battery life. Also of course on your Note 3 with MOAR has plenty of the bloat and pointless background processes removed which play a huge factor.
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I'm in phone envy. I could kick myself in the ass right now for getting the s5 when it came out and not waiting for the note4
Turn off Auto adjust screen tone in display settings!
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I'm in phone envy. I could kick myself in the ass right now for getting the s5 when it came out and not waiting for the note4
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Told my sister to wait and she is glad she listened.
Why did you upgrade to the S5?
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Told my sister to wait and she is glad she listened.
Why did you upgrade to the S5?
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Was sitting on an upgrade. And had an s3
JAG50 said:
I got the note 4 yesterday, a day ahead of most people. I've been testing it throughly and to my shock, I'm finding my note 3 running MOAR to be working faster, longer, and better.
Take for example the photo below. The note 4 is on the left and the note 3 running MOAR on the right. Isn't it amazing the difference in quality?
I don't blame the phone. I blame 4.4.4 for messing up what could have been an awesome smart phone. I'm returning mine today.
Battery? The note 4 battery is at 48% at 1:00 pm while my note 3 is at 80%. I use gsam battery and it breaks down what is using battery and the system and kernel on the note 4 are using almost 30% while the note 3 uses about 18%.
So, for all those of you that own a note 3, beware, you will be disappointed if you upgrade.
And if my advise saved you from disappointment, I believe a thank you would be in order.
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It seems like you don't want to like the phone. Lol. First, you are comparing performance between a phone that has stock firmware on it to a phone that is rooted and has an optimized custom rom. That's not a comparison. As far as the pictures, I'm agreeing with everyone else the one on the left looks better. The one on the right looks like you either have a filter on it or flash. And it still doesn't look as good as the other. The Note 3 is a great phone, but the 4 is just better. And the cameras are definitely night and day. But to each his own. You won't know what you are missing once the devs start to give this thing some love.
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Note 4 is not that huge as an upgrade. Should stick to note 3 till note 5 comes or you got alot of money.
Nope. I don't agree that it isn't a big enough upgrade. The camera is better. The screen is better. The pen is better. The multi window is easier. I love the fingerprint scanner -- which is the thing I thought I'd have no use for! It feels better in my hand. I know I'll find more as I use the phone, but so far I think it was a great upgrade from the Note 3.
Samsung Rolled out an OTA update to fix battery problem on the launch day.
and for camera try using other camera apps and then please inform me about cam result. Congrats for a New Note 4. :thumbup:
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I respect all of your opinions and I'm leaving your remarks as they stand. I am an android enthusiast and was looking forward to the note 4. But I'm totally bummed out, because it's not what they told us in all those youTube videos. Here's my analysis:
1. SIRI finally found human, one button access, works.* Google Now also works on note 4, not note 3.
2. Camera is sub-par to MOAR on note 3, but Turning off HDR makes photos acceptable.* Completed multiple photos. Note 3 is unquestionable the better camera: saturation, clarity, color, etc.
3.Battery:* Android sys consumers 30% plus of battery.* Forums say there's a patch coming.* After testing both batteries, note 4 is holding more power than note 3.
4. Found a cool case on Amazon.
5. The new multi window feature is a lie. doesn't work because it's app depended, not hardware depended.
6. Not rooted.* Android L (lollipop) is probably months away.* Hackers will have a note 3 version before the official release for note 3.
7. Can't use any of my rooted apps or features like moving apps to ext card.
8.* Rebate from Samsung smells like a rip-off.* They advertised a $200 rebate, but fine print days otherwise.* It says it's $200 minus value of tradein.
9. I will have to buy new batteries.
10.* No significant increase on speed or performance. Same as note 3.
11. My note 3 is running smooth. Just minor bugs that are doable.
12. Will get my $375.00 refunded.
13. Maybe note 5 will be the one with major improvements. Note 4 improvements over note 3 are really minor in comparison.
14. Well, I discovered that if I hold down right button, I can still access menu.* Many apps haven't placed the menu on top right like Google asked.* No QC.
15. I do have 12 days to **** with it before returning. Put the nice case on it and continue experimenting.
16. It's full potential will not be reached until I rooted it and get rid of 4.4.4
17. Speaker is now on the back, not at the bottom where you can heart it.
18. Honestly believe note 4 camera flash to be weaker.
19. Damn, I ripped off the velcro. Will have to get more velcro.
20. It was expected to be water proof like the Galaxy S5,* but it's not water proof.
21. The stylus does have nice feature. It works now like mouse. You can freely highlight text unlike the note 3 that you have to curse and pray simultaneously to capture text.
22. The USSA app still won't split into multi window mode.
23. I'll do full battery comparison today.
24. YouTube has adds on note 4, not note 3.
25. Just watched YouTube video and note 3 screen is way brighter than note 4.
26. Videos load faster on note 3.
27. I set both displays to auto and note 3 is definitely brighter and easier to see.
28.Programs open slightly faster on note 3.
29. Even though note 4 allows you to copy and paste,* I can buy app (which I will) that gives same capability to note 3.
30. Most apps on note 4 can't be minimized.
31. Watching netflix you can't tell difference of screen quality.
32. Speaker:* Note 3 has better speaker sound and location.* Speaker on back was not good idea.
33. The note 4 has only one antenna and thus you can't make a call and. surf at the same time.
So take it for what it's worth. In a way, I'm proud that all my hacking with my note 3 produced a better phone. Those who wish to argue, fuzz, and complain about my remarks, go for it. I'm a ex-combat warrior. My skin is thick.
Hmmmm.... I've seen a post like this before.
On the Note 2 vs Note 3 thread...
I went from my Note 3 to the Note 4 and so far I am happy with my new phone. The screen is absolutely gorgeous!
I was eligible for an upgrade so I didn't have to pay a dime for my Note 4. I do not think the differences are enough to run out and sell your Note 3 either.
One thing I do not like about the Note 4 is the speaker is now on the back of the phone. I absolutely hate that!! The phone is very fast and my battery life is outstanding. I also love how I can charge my phone in like 30 mins.
I have had the 2, the 3 , and now the 4. I still have my 3 and the wifey has the 2. Here's my take on the 3 vs 4. The new screen is ridiculous. I bought the 4 just for the screen actually. The brightness outdoors, on auto brightness the 4 is slightly brighter. Some don't like the speaker on the back but I do. When I don't have my headphones, the sound reverberates better when on the kickstand than the 3, shooting the sound to the right. I always found myself cupping my hand near the speaker to hear the sound. The speaker may not sound as good as the 3 but it is way louder than the 3. I remember everyone saying that the 3 wasn't that great of an upgrade over the 2. Personally it was well worth it.
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I respect all of your opinions and I'm leaving your remarks as they stand. I am an android enthusiast and was looking forward to the note 4. But I'm totally bummed out, because it's not what they told us in all those youTube videos. Here's my analysis:
1. SIRI finally found human, one button access, works.* Google Now also works on note 4, not note 3.
2. Camera is sub-par to MOAR on note 3, but Turning off HDR makes photos acceptable.* Completed multiple photos. Note 3 is unquestionable the better camera: saturation, clarity, color, etc.
3.Battery:* Android sys consumers 30% plus of battery.* Forums say there's a patch coming.* After testing both batteries, note 4 is holding more power than note 3.
4. Found a cool case on Amazon.
5. The new multi window feature is a lie. doesn't work because it's app depended, not hardware depended.
6. Not rooted.* Android L (lollipop) is probably months away.* Hackers will have a note 3 version before the official release for note 3.
7. Can't use any of my rooted apps or features like moving apps to ext card.
8.* Rebate from Samsung smells like a rip-off.* They advertised a $200 rebate, but fine print days otherwise.* It says it's $200 minus value of tradein.
9. I will have to buy new batteries.
10.* No significant increase on speed or performance. Same as note 3.
11. My note 3 is running smooth. Just minor bugs that are doable.
12. Will get my $375.00 refunded.
13. Maybe note 5 will be the one with major improvements. Note 4 improvements over note 3 are really minor in comparison.
14. Well, I discovered that if I hold down right button, I can still access menu.* Many apps haven't placed the menu on top right like Google asked.* No QC.
15. I do have 12 days to **** with it before returning. Put the nice case on it and continue experimenting.
16. It's full potential will not be reached until I rooted it and get rid of 4.4.4
17. Speaker is now on the back, not at the bottom where you can heart it.
18. Honestly believe note 4 camera flash to be weaker.
19. Damn, I ripped off the velcro. Will have to get more velcro.
20. It was expected to be water proof like the Galaxy S5,* but it's not water proof.
21. The stylus does have nice feature. It works now like mouse. You can freely highlight text unlike the note 3 that you have to curse and pray simultaneously to capture text.
22. The USSA app still won't split into multi window mode.
23. I'll do full battery comparison today.
24. YouTube has adds on note 4, not note 3.
25. Just watched YouTube video and note 3 screen is way brighter than note 4.
26. Videos load faster on note 3.
27. I set both displays to auto and note 3 is definitely brighter and easier to see.
28.Programs open slightly faster on note 3.
29. Even though note 4 allows you to copy and paste,* I can buy app (which I will) that gives same capability to note 3.
30. Most apps on note 4 can't be minimized.
31. Watching netflix you can't tell difference of screen quality.
32. Speaker:* Note 3 has better speaker sound and location.* Speaker on back was not good idea.
33. The note 4 has only one antenna and thus you can't make a call and. surf at the same time.
So take it for what it's worth. In a way, I'm proud that all my hacking with my note 3 produced a better phone. Those who wish to argue, fuzz, and complain about my remarks, go for it. I'm a ex-combat warrior. My skin is thick.
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Some of the things you posted are opinions, i won't comment on them. But other things either don't make sense according to facts or you are comparing a stock samsung rom to a custom rom. There is no comparison there. I kinda wonder if you are trolling.
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note 3 lollipop rom

I wonder if anyone could port the note 3 lollipop rom onto the note 4,the note 3 looks to have all the features of the note 4 now and a lot more besides...all the stuff left off the note 4 that was on the note 3 would be there such as reader mode,page buddy,all the smart scroll stuff and the air view features,nicer music player and lots of other small touches such as animated video thumbnails ect...I like the body of the note 4 but the features of the the 4 are seriously lacking compared to the lollipop version of the note 3....
What's the use of porting a rom when it releases official within one month?
The useless request of the day...
Because it's a different rom the same features aren't on the note 4 lollipop there's more on the note 3 rom.
albireox said:
The useless request of the day...
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Why is it useless?if the note 3 lollipop has all the note 4 features and much more wouldn't it be better to have the better rom ?
simonhcai said:
Why is it useless?if the note 3 lollipop has all the note 4 features and much more wouldn't it be better to have the better rom ?
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Because many of the Note3 features were not useful for a large number of users, and second because that would make the ROM large and laggy. For the first time, Samsung made a lighter ROM with the Note4 that actually is quite snappy. I for one don't miss the Note3 ROMs at all. Not to mention that the porting part is not very easy to do (different platforms) and is worthless when Lollipop will come in January for Note4 anyway.
I've never had much lag with my note 3 and a phone like the note 4 should easily be able to handle the features they kept off but shouldn't people who actually want these features be given the option to have them and there is quite a few people who want them back plus if you don't don't want them nobody would be forcing you to install the rom anyway...
Who would be stupid enough to waste their time porting this to the note 4 when the note 4 version is due soon....
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The note 4 version has less features than the note 3 lollipop version that's why...
Well, there's a time you should wait someone to do what you want, and there's time you must learn to do what you want.
This is the later, if no one gonna port note 3 rom for you, I think you should start to learn how to do it yourself. There are many tutorials in this site.
If you don't mind waiting til not known time, then just wait.
Just my opinion though.
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The note 4 version has less features than the note 3 lollipop version that's why...
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what features?
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ddaharu said:
what features?
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Air view with fingers not just pen,quick glance,group play,Web page magnifier,headphone/page buddy,reader mode,voice controls of the music player and alarm,photo note,air gesture for music player,Animated video thumb nails plus more...if the note 3 and the s3 lollipop roms have these surely the note 4 should have it and the lag isn't an issue as the note 3 and s5 run lag free on lollipop I thought note 4 was an upgrade but not that much by the looks of things...

Got a note 5 - back to note 4!!!!

Being an avid user of the Note series for last many years I went ahead and got myself a Note 5....I knew there were going to be some hardware related compromises (no IR port, no micro SD, no removable battery) but still made the jump looking forward to newer tech and software experience.
Well within a couple of days of using it I have been forced by Samsung to go back to Note 4 as the Note 5 is a real disappointment in many respects on usage front too.
Here is my list of disappointing aspects of note 5...things which Note 4 has and for whatever reason Samsung decided to omit from Note 5.....I think they really messed up this time around and will see a dive in sales unless they do something to fix this mess soon....may be Note 5S????
HARDWARE RELATED OMISSIONS
1. No IR Port
2. No Micro SD Card
3. No removeable battery
SOFTWARE RELATED OMISSIONS
1. Dialer - does not find contacts that are there in the phone book....when I use smart dial to look for them.
2. Dialer - shows all contacts matching the smart dial combo in alphabetical order not frequent ones first....note 4 showed frequent ones first.
3. Alarm - snooze had many options - how many minutes how many times....this only has 5 minutes 3 times
4. Email - Emails had option not to show any previews and only show sender and subject in Note 4....this has no such option
5. Email - were segregated date wise in Note 4....here they are all clubbed together
6. SMS - names with similar ending digits in the number are getting mixed up....Eg: someone with number 1234567890 and someone with number 2234567890 are showing as same contact
7. Facebook calendar doesn't sync....Note 4 used to sync facebook contact bdays to my calendar. this doesn't.
8. Bloomberg for business not working....keeps force closing
9. S-Health step count not showing on lock screen - it used to show in Note 4
Many others...
SAMSUNG - please fix all of the above ASAP else your note 5 is going to be a massive flop.....everyone looking to upgrade from note 4 to note 5 please consider above list and then decide what you wish to do.
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Being an avid user of the Note series for last many years I went ahead and got myself a Note 5....I knew there were going to be some hardware related compromises (no IR port, no micro SD, no removable battery) but still made the jump looking forward to newer tech and software experience.
Well within a couple of days of using it I have been forced by Samsung to go back to Note 4 as the Note 5 is a real disappointment in many respects on usage front too.
Here is my list of disappointing aspects of note 5...things which Note 4 has and for whatever reason Samsung decided to omit from Note 5.....I think they really messed up this time around and will see a dive in sales unless they do something to fix this mess soon....may be Note 5S????
HARDWARE RELATED OMISSIONS
1. No IR Port
2. No Micro SD Card
3. No removeable battery
SOFTWARE RELATED OMISSIONS
1. Dialer - does not find contacts that are there in the phone book....when I use smart dial to look for them.
2. Dialer - shows all contacts matching the smart dial combo in alphabetical order not frequent ones first....note 4 showed frequent ones first.
3. Alarm - snooze had many options - how many minutes how many times....this only has 5 minutes 3 times
4. Email - Emails had option not to show any previews and only show sender and subject in Note 4....this has no such option
5. Email - were segregated date wise in Note 4....here they are all clubbed together
6. SMS - names with similar ending digits in the number are getting mixed up....Eg: someone with number 1234567890 and someone with number 2234567890 are showing as same contact
7. Facebook calendar doesn't sync....Note 4 used to sync facebook contact bdays to my calendar. this doesn't.
8. Bloomberg for business not working....keeps force closing
9. S-Health step count not showing on lock screen - it used to show in Note 4
Many others...
SAMSUNG - please fix all of the above ASAP else your note 5 is going to be a massive flop.....everyone looking to upgrade from note 4 to note 5 please consider above list and then decide what you wish to do.
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all the software related issues you having can be easily corrected by instaling different messaging or dialer app
for this you going back to note 4 ... doesnt make sense .... didnt u likes the amazing metal and glass build and sleek looks and smooth software of note 5 ?
software can be easily correccted or we can use different apps but hardware is what we have to live with and infront of note 5, the note 4 looks like a brick and plastic toy and note 4's older touchwiz is laggy and outdated
anshkhanna said:
Being an avid user of the Note series for last many years I went ahead and got myself a Note 5....I knew there were going to be some hardware related compromises (no IR port, no micro SD, no removable battery) but still made the jump looking forward to newer tech and software experience.
Well within a couple of days of using it I have been forced by Samsung to go back to Note 4 as the Note 5 is a real disappointment in many respects on usage front too.
Here is my list of disappointing aspects of note 5...things which Note 4 has and for whatever reason Samsung decided to omit from Note 5.....I think they really messed up this time around and will see a dive in sales unless they do something to fix this mess soon....may be Note 5S????
HARDWARE RELATED OMISSIONS
1. No IR Port
2. No Micro SD Card
3. No removeable battery
SOFTWARE RELATED OMISSIONS
1. Dialer - does not find contacts that are there in the phone book....when I use smart dial to look for them.
2. Dialer - shows all contacts matching the smart dial combo in alphabetical order not frequent ones first....note 4 showed frequent ones first.
3. Alarm - snooze had many options - how many minutes how many times....this only has 5 minutes 3 times
4. Email - Emails had option not to show any previews and only show sender and subject in Note 4....this has no such option
5. Email - were segregated date wise in Note 4....here they are all clubbed together
6. SMS - names with similar ending digits in the number are getting mixed up....Eg: someone with number 1234567890 and someone with number 2234567890 are showing as same contact
7. Facebook calendar doesn't sync....Note 4 used to sync facebook contact bdays to my calendar. this doesn't.
8. Bloomberg for business not working....keeps force closing
9. S-Health step count not showing on lock screen - it used to show in Note 4
Many others...
SAMSUNG - please fix all of the above ASAP else your note 5 is going to be a massive flop.....everyone looking to upgrade from note 4 to note 5 please consider above list and then decide what you wish to do.
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No problems here.
I never go back to the Note 4.
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saj2001ind said:
all the software related issues you having can be easily corrected by instaling different messaging or dialer app
for this you going back to note 4 ... doesnt make sense .... didnt u likes the amazing metal and glass build and sleek looks and smooth software of note 5 ?
software can be easily correccted or we can use different apps but hardware is what we have to live with and infront of note 5, the note 4 looks like a brick and plastic toy and note 4's older touchwiz is laggy and outdated
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Cannot argue on the quality of the note 5 hardware at all.... It is impressive. However I am not a fan of third party apps when it comes to core apps such as dialer or messaging. I hope Samsung fixes these issues with an update.
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Cannot argue on the quality of the note 5 hardware at all.... It is impressive. However I am not a fan of third party apps when it comes to core apps such as dialer or messaging. I hope Samsung fixes these issues with an update.
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you mentioned you going back to note 4, so you already sold note 5 ? and where did u buy it from in first place
Its not good .. "new functions" where ? Samsung removed important functions from Note 5... for me its over with next note. My last note is 4 or maybe 6 if Samsung add back MircoSD slot and IR .
Some of the software issues you mention are irritating but not deal breakers to me. I do agree that the note 4 email and alarm apps were better (for example, marking a group of emails as unread is 2 steps when it used to be one), and some apps, like this XDA app don't allow me to create a new thread (or I just can't figure out where to find it) but so far the device itself is so much faster to me.
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Yes it's an unnecessary regression by Samsung in software. I hope they fix all this by an update.
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Bought it in Singapore. Not sold it as yet. Will hold on to it for a bit to see if Samsung addresses software issues
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i got my note 5 on the official release date and been using it for 3 days now. I came from the original note one, the finish on note 5 and the hardware and update are no complaint.
However, i have to agree with anshkhanna saying he wanted to go back to an older version.
i also expect a new phone which i can do pretty much all the customization right out of the box, but unfortunately, it wasnt exactly the case.
i'm satisfied with the interface of my note 1, the only problem is the hardware limitation and the phone is running extremely slow.
I had two problems and see if you guys are help me to solve.
1. i copied the photos from the old phone to storage/DCIM, but the "Gallery app" can't see any of them.
2. i can't setup a custom ringtone (i was successful at first and worked for about a day, then, the ringtone changed back to default). and when i select it, the system said "unable to see as ringtone". i tried mp3, wma, ogg, none of them work, and the file can be played properly.
Help pls.
anshkhanna said:
Cannot argue on the quality of the note 5 hardware at all.... It is impressive. However I am not a fan of third party apps when it comes to core apps such as dialer or messaging. I hope Samsung fixes these issues with an update.
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Android 6 will come with a lot of futures and upgrades hopefully Samsung don't take long to upgrade
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saj2001ind said:
all the software related issues you having can be easily corrected by instaling different messaging or dialer app
for this you going back to note 4 ... doesnt make sense .... didnt u likes the amazing metal and glass build and sleek looks and smooth software of note 5 ?
software can be easily correccted or we can use different apps but hardware is what we have to live with and infront of note 5, the note 4 looks like a brick and plastic toy and note 4's older touchwiz is laggy and outdated
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You sound like a Samsung employee...... Or an ex-iPhone fanboy that got the feeling their hand wanted back since you switched sides.
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You sound like a Samsung employee...... Or an ex-iPhone fanboy that got the feeling their hand wanted back since you switched sides.
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U got it all wrong.... Never used iPhone and not fan boy of anything just appreciate good tech... Unlike you, who instead of discussion wants to talk nonsense, read responses from other guys including OP who are discussion in mature way
Whose employee are you?
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ryanalan82 said:
You sound like a Samsung employee...... Or an ex-iPhone fanboy that got the feeling their hand wanted back since you switched sides.
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Wow.
ryanalan82 said:
You sound like a Samsung employee...... Or an ex-iPhone fanboy that got the feeling their hand wanted back since you switched sides.
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How dare he share his opinion? Must be a fan boy for certain.
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It's so funny. I had my note 4 for a while now and had totally forgotten it had an ir blaster until reading the multiple complaints on these threads about how the note 5 didn't have one.
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sharingan5791 said:
It's so funny. I had my note 4 for a while now and had totally forgotten it had an ir blaster until reading the multiple complaints on these threads about how the note 5 didn't have one.
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My last few Samsung phones had it and the only time I ever used it was to mess with people at bars and other public places.
At home it's just a lot easier to use my regular remotes.
TL; DR
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TL; DR
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Man I'm getting old. I had to Google that. Funny.
Might i Add some more features :
1. No more resizing windows, like with Spen
2. No more multi windows
3. Dialer cannot search groups
4. Gallery doesn't look in cloud drives for photos
5. All icons get smaller like favorites in email or messaging
6. App draw doesn't scroll 360 only one way then back.
7. Samsung account backup and restore gone (cant back up rejections lists etc..)
That's what i found having the phone fore three days.

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