[Q] Note 3 - Best Easy Rom For Beginner - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi All
I have a Note 3 SM-N9005, I live in NZ and it works on the Vodafone NZ network here using my SIM card (don't know if these details are important or not).
Basically I've been having issues with it mainly in regards to sluggishness, especially when dialling, for example if I touch a contact and then touch "call" it will sometimes take up to 30 seconds or so to initiate the dialling.
So I was thinking about going down the root/rom route. I have never ever done this before so I'm a complete noob.
So I'm after a easy to install/use ROM, basically I would love to keep all the S-Pen features, and a few of the Samsung apps (mainly IR Remote (watchon), S-Note, etc). I also currently use Nova Launcher which is awesome for the screen realestate (customizing icons grid, widget sizes, padding etc). I also use the following widgets extensively:
Calendar Month view (I used to use S-Planner month view widget, but that no longer worked with Nova, so found another month view one)
HD Widgets (Weather/Clock)
DashClock (the lock screen widget thing)
Lock Screen Widget
Youtube Widget
System Monitor (a bunch of widgets showing CPU, RAM, Battery, Storage etc)
Onavo Count (showing internet usage)
Would like to keep all these as well.
I don't know if you guys need all this info, but yeah, let me know if you need any more info.
Cheers

OK so you want to keep TouchWiz based ROMs aka Samsung bases. There are plenty in the dev section. It really depends on what you want to customise and do tbh.
Alliance, Crash, civatos ROM, sweetRom etc, there's plenty more too. It's trial and error as to which you prefer/like - I personally used Alliance ROM from the start as soon as it was released, but again it's personal preference.
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radicalisto said:
OK so you want to keep TouchWiz based ROMs aka Samsung bases. There are plenty in the dev section. It really depends on what you want to customise and do tbh.
Alliance, Crash, civatos ROM, sweetRom etc, there's plenty more too. It's trial and error as to which you prefer/like - I personally used Alliance ROM from the start as soon as it was released, but again it's personal preference.
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So all of those keep all the same features of the Note 3? I've noticed a few S5 roms, one even said "the best of S5 but with a s-pen" would these keep the S-Pen features or no?
Do Roms come with their own launchers? Or can I still use Nova?
Also is there a rooting/rom installing guide here on the forums somewhere for the Note 3?

stildawn said:
So all of those keep all the same features of the Note 3? I've noticed a few S5 roms, one even said "the best of S5 but with a s-pen" would these keep the S-Pen features or no?
Do Roms come with their own launchers? Or can I still use Nova?
Also is there a rooting/rom installing guide here on the forums somewhere for the Note 3?
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Not 100% sure about the S5 ROMS. yeah they all have launchers but you can install NOVA and use as normal. In regards to root, if you have a custom recovery you can just flash SuperSU.zip but most custom ROMs are pre-rooted already.
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radicalisto said:
Not 100% sure about the S5 ROMS. yeah they all have launchers but you can install NOVA and use as normal. In regards to root, if you have a custom recovery you can just flash SuperSU.zip but most custom ROMs are pre-rooted already.
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Haha you've lost me already, I was under the impression I need to root my phone to install a custom ROM? I have no idea what custom recovery is for example. Need to find some guides on this I think.
Good cause I paid for Nova and quite like it.

Ah OK so you have a bit of reading to do.
I'll briefly sum it up for you.
Using ODIN, flash a recovery image aka TWRP. (make sure you have the right version) you don't need root to flash a custom recovery. Then you can download a ROM to your device and flash it.
But first, go to the general section in this forum of the Note 3, read the stickies regarding root, custom recovery and what events can and do indeed happen and most importantly if you make a boo-boo how to fix it.
Reading is the best advice I can give you, in fact its the best advice you'll receive from anyone in this forum.
Spend a few days, if not longer familiarising yourself with how the whole root/custom recovery process works and then IF you feel confident, go ahead and try it. Or simply post and ask for advice/help.
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Post your ideas of how to customize stock (non rooted) vibrant

Hi everyone...
Im looking for suggestions on how to customize my stock vibrant and try all col things with this powerful phone... So far I have launcher pro and a beautiful widgets... And some games like need for speed shift demo... Anything else cool and exciting I can try or download on my phone w/o rooting it? Or screwing up ota uodates in the future?... Like changing tmob boot up screen or any suggestions at alll...
Thanx
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In the settings you can change the "font style." (New fonts can be downloaded for a buck.) It can have a significant effect on how things appear. Some suggestions from the tips thread are Helvetica Nue, Soho Gothic, Frutiger and Felbridge. I'm digging Helvetica a lot.
Thanx for suggestion.. I forgot to mention I downloaded a few flip fonts I love how it changes the look of the phone.. Any other suggestions? Or performance boosters?
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you can not change the boot logo (or shutdown) if you are not rooted. If you are rooted, you still get OTA, but once installed it will unroot the phone
No problem do this
Fancy Widgets
Pure Messenger/ Grid Calendar and an Agenda app... (can't remember the name)
I am running Agenda Widget and liking it ok so far. I am always looking for a better one.
Launcher Pro or ADW, Beautiful Widgets, change the font style.
Here is a link to a thread with a plethora of Flip Fonts to choose from. Just download the .apk. locate and install on your device. Go into settings and change the font, restart and there you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=748916
Don't mean to pick on the op but I'm curious why people don't want to root.
I did the day it was possible and haven't looked back. So many things you can do to customize all reversible if you have to. Just don't try doing really crazy stuff unless you know what your doing but most things in the stick under the root section are easy and awesome.
Anyway I'd love to understand why people don't just do it.
Battery usage with percentage would be really nice.
drhonk said:
Battery usage with percentage would be really nice.
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One more awesome thing to do with root. I don't get why you wouldn't.
joshthewaster said:
One more awesome thing to do with root. I don't get why you wouldn't.
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I don't get why people who don't root their phones go on XDA. XDA is a place for rooting and ROM development. Not a user-friendly website for non-rooters. But yeah definitely root, you can customize a lot more. Customize the notifications bar, I don't really big the light gray and blue 3G icon
I've gone from a few different Nokias, to a Motorola Razor, to a Blackberry Pearl and now finally to a Samsung Vibrant. I'm pretty good with computers and software so I know I could get rooting/recovery/flashing down, but this is my first time with a mobile device I could hack.
Whenever I do research on the topic I find multiple threads with multiple ways to root. The whole directions/concept just isn't crystal clear with me yet, despite how much I've read. And, there's always posts at the end of each thread by users with unanswered issues/problems.
I guess, I'm just taking the slow cautious route, enjoying stock android eclair for a while. I do have the itch, but no apps or issues with my phone have pushed me beyond curiosity and into the experimental, so to speak.
What is the top main reason you have for rooting your vibrant?
Edit: to point out, I know I could've "hacked" my previous phones, but not the way you can with an Android phone, you know what I mean...
trunkstar1 said:
I've gone from a few different Nokias, to a Motorola Razor, to a Blackberry Pearl and now finally to a Samsung Vibrant. I'm pretty good with computers and software so I know I could get rooting/recovery/flashing down, but this is my first time with a mobile device I could hack.
Whenever I do research on the topic I find multiple threads with multiple ways to root. The whole directions/concept just isn't crystal clear with me yet, despite how much I've read. And, there's always posts at the end of each thread by users with unanswered issues/problems.
I guess, I'm just taking the slow cautious route, enjoying stock android eclair for a while. I do have the itch, but no apps or issues with my phone have pushed me beyond curiosity and into the experimental, so to speak.
What is the top main reason you have for rooting your vibrant?
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- Allows access to applications that require root access (e.g. Titanium Backup, SetCPU, AdFree (not suggested since it helps developers), metamorph, etc)
- When you root, you have the ability to flash a custom recovery that allows custom ROMs. This allows nandroid backups, restores, and more.
- Remove bloatware that comes with the phone (this one DEFINITELY)
- Screenshots
See, I get confused. All I've read about recovery was people talking about "booting into recovery. The only thing I thought you flashed were the custom ROMs. And, I thought you only needed the backups and restores so you could get back to an unrooted state in case you needed warrantee work, or messed up your phone somehow.
What are the major bloatware items on the stock t-mobile vibrant?
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See, I get confused. All I've read about recovery was people talking about "booting into recovery. The only thing I thought you flashed were the custom ROMs. And, I thought you only needed the backups and restores so you could get back to an unrooted state in case you needed warrantee work, or messed up your phone somehow.
What are the major bloatware items on the stock t-mobile vibrant?
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Account & Settings on the App Drawer
Gogo
Amazon Kindle
TeleNav
T-Mobile Voicemail
MobiTV
Memo
AudioPostcard
(and many more)
... oh yeah and with root (and installed clockwork recovery) you can apply the Captivate camera which its interface is easier to apply different scenes.
And no.. you can restore non-root with Odin and nandroid backup (JAC's thread has a unrooted backup online). But yeah you do backups before you apply hacks to your phone incase anything happens
drhonk said:
Battery usage with percentage would be really nice.
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Get the app called Battery Status Pro. That gives you what you want.
zephiK said:
Account & Settings on the App Drawer
Gogo
Amazon Kindle
TeleNav
T-Mobile Voicemail
MobiTV
Memo
AudioPostcard
(and many more)
... oh yeah and with root (and installed clockwork recovery) you can apply the Captivate camera which its interface is easier to apply different scenes.
And no.. you can restore non-root with Odin and nandroid backup (JAC's thread has a unrooted backup online). But yeah you do backups before you apply hacks to your phone incase anything happens
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Trying to figure out how to remove bloatware was THE reason I found xda and rooted. I had no idea what I was doing but it is ULTRA easy. Download update zip-boot to recovery-apply-enjoy. That got me discovering all the other awesome things I can do.
You will always see people who have problems with anything in the threads. This is why you make backups. Once you have those you can do a lot more with a lot more confidence knowing that if you make a mistake you can correct it - mostly. And you can unroot if you have to.
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Battery usage with percentage would be really nice.
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Agreed. Love having it.
Come on guys lets talk about stuff you can do for non rooters please. I did root my phone but I took it to far and bricked it. I'm not doing it again and I know that xda forums lean more to rooting then not. I thought a thread that talked about non rooted phones was a great idea but its been taken over. So I'm bringing it back.
There are a lot of good lockscreen apps to look at for changing your lockscreen. I've used some of them just haven settled on one yet. So no need to root just have fun with it the way it is.
spacecasespiff said:
Come on guys lets talk about stuff you can do for non rooters please. I did root my phone but I took it to far and bricked it. I'm not doing it again and I know that xda forums lean more to rooting then not. I thought a thread that talked about non rooted phones was a great idea but its been taken over. So I'm bringing it back.
There are a lot of good lockscreen apps to look at for changing your lockscreen. I've used some of them just haven settled on one yet. So no need to root just have fun with it the way it is.
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Thanx for staying on topic... no offense to others... where do i find different lock screens?

[Q] New Vibrant user looking for advice.

I did some looking and finally settled on the Vibrant, which should be here in a few days. I have ordered an extra memory card and a screen protector (invisibleshield) so far. I tried to look through here since this seems to be one of the most comprehensive forums on the phone but I guess its Info Overload? I don't know where to begin. I guess I will just ask the few questions I have and go from there.
1. What would you all think are the top 3 case options that are available?
2. What are some recommended apps?
3. I stumbled on BlackFroyo and wondered do I have to have any changes to the phone to use this? looks great and I am sure there are others out there that will look good to but just using this as a starting point.
4. If I do decide to flash the phone what is a good starting point for someone that has never flashed a phone before? The only CFW experience I have is with my PSP, and that was so simple it was almost a joke.
Might not have placed this in the best location but since it had questions that seemed to cover most if not all of the sub-forums figured general was a good place to start.
Thanks for any help... guess im back of to reading and trying to learn what little I can before my phone gets here.
if you are flashing roms then clockwork recovery/rom manager and titanium backup are must haves.
here are some apps i like/use (copied from my post in a recommended apps thread):
games:
angry birds
horror run!
robo defense
sudoku free
bonsai blast
widgets:
fancy widget
setcpu (also an app)
battery left
apps:
winamp (also is a good widget and has wifi sync ftw)
alarm clock xtreme
chrome to phone
google goggles
gps status
my tracks
titanium backup
rom manager
adw
as for that theme, it was for nero3 (a rom) and will not work with stock froyo or any of the current roms and flashing roms requires root. i'd recommend flashing bionix v 1.2.1 or the 2.2.1 stock stable beta2. for info on rooting and flashing roms read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732458
tunein radio
my first suggestion is to learn how to use ODIN which is in the bible sticky section this will help you greatly if you think you may have bricked your phone. its also a guide to using odin and i think one for flashing rom's learn the in's and outs of flashing. always read up on what you are about to flash. and happy flashing.
to be honest why not just wait for the 4g version?
blader3759 said:
to be honest why not just wait for the 4g version?
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Where I live 4g is only about 5 years away... god i hate B.F.E. aka the mississippi delta.
caliga4221 said:
Where I live 4g is only about 5 years away... god i hate B.F.E. aka the mississippi delta.
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Ok makes sense then. make sure to invest in angry birds
the hardest part about flashing a ROM is figuring out what to backup beforehand, not really the act/process of flashing itself. I Still am not completely sure what to backup when I flash I just go to the stickies and try to follow their instructions as best as possible using titanium backup. One thing, for your contacts try to have them all saved to google if you ever flash again so that you can just pull them from there instead of having to do it with an app.
I guess you will be starting fresh so you might have a hardware locked Vibrant, be sure to look up the file you need to flash to get out of the hardware lock if so.
the whole process is pretty much just saving a .zip file to your vibrant's internal memory, rebooting into the "BIOS" I guess you could say, and then going thru the selections to install the .zip that contains the ROM. It is very simple then you wait for the phone to reboot and give it 10 min or so to fully complete loading and you are good to go.
As far as cases go case mate makes some good cases. If you need or want heavy duty then check otter box or trident cases out.
The black froyo theme is nice but you can only flash it with compatible roms. Check out the thread and it will tell you what its compatible with.
Please read the stickies you will save yourself alot of headaches.
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Looking for a Stock style Rom with a few enhancements

I hate to do this, but I am looking for a stock style rom for the N4 with the following
root
deodex
Facebook contacts Sync
Enhanced Quick Settings
Enhanced Power Menu
Patched Google Wallet (to allow root)
t9 dialer
I'm happy putting this together myself, but to speed things along does anyone have links/suggestions on where to get the above features or a ROM with all the above?
I get my N4 today if shipping works well from TNT so hope to have this flashed tonight and have loads on at work so this is why I am posting a Q&A for help locating this
All very good Features i would like to see in a "Stock"-Android ROM. :good:
the wallet apk is floating around here somewheres. there is also an unsupported gapps with it.
t9 dialer. i just noticed one with it the other day. i thing it was xylon or codefirex.
i dont do facebook. but everything else you mentioned should be in just about any rom. cm10.1 seems to be the one rom around here that is closets to stock.
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the wallet apk is floating around here somewheres. there is also an unsupported gapps with it.
t9 dialer. i just noticed one with it the other day. i thing it was xylon or codefirex.
i dont do facebook. but everything else you mentioned should be in just about any rom. cm10.1 seems to be the one rom around here that is closets to stock.
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I wondered between that and MCR to be honest - I thought MCR might actually be slightly closer to stock
Lothaen said:
I wondered between that and MCR to be honest - I thought MCR might actually be slightly closer to stock
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could be. i havent looked at that rom.
Rascarlo is another very minimal rom
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Lothaen said:
I wondered between that and MCR to be honest - I thought MCR might actually be slightly closer to stock
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zephiK said:
Rascarlo is another very minimal rom
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i started thinking... what makes a minimal rom? i have never used a rom that was considered 'minimal' so questions are coming up. as more and more time goes by would the rom not get further and further away from stock? or do they stop adding features and only update as code for what they have is further optimized? i guess what im saying is you could always try to hunt down a rom that started with all of the features you are looking for. then flash an early build of that before they loaded it down with stuff you dont want.
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i started thinking... what makes a minimal rom? i have never used a rom that was considered 'minimal' so questions are coming up. as more and more time goes by would the rom not get further and further away from stock? or do they stop adding features and only update as code for what they have is further optimized? i guess what im saying is you could always try to hunt down a rom that started with all of the features you are looking for. then flash an early build of that before they loaded it down with stuff you dont want.
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That's a good question. Never thought it about that way. I guess it's rom that stays relatively close to stock without pushing out all these features coming out of aokp and cm. Just the minimal additional features that the ROM creator feels necessary.
I personally don't see a reason for these roms and why some people must stick to stockish custom roms. Nowadays all roms are fast that you can barely tell the difference. The difference comes from the kernel in my opinion.
I just don't want to use a rom that barely gets updated because I'm addicted to flashing stuff and without garbage code wasting space on my phone with unnecessary apps like performance control when I already have a app to use for controlling the cpu frequency etc. Things like that.
I guess my definition of minimal is very little tweaks just enough to tease our temptations without being too disappointed. It's defined differently by all
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I'm looking for a rom that I only need to think about flashing every few months really - want something ultra stable (so stock like as that should be the most stable rom )
just wanted a few nicer features thrown in without all the clutter of CM/AKOP
Paranoid android is closer to stock than CM/AOKP if you ignore the tablet settings. It's more about having a beautiful UI and near stock interface.
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Paranoid android is closer to stock than CM/AOKP if you ignore the tablet settings. It's more about having a beautiful UI and near stock interface.
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lol what are you talking about. all ROMs for N4 look like a stock interface, they're all built upon the Holo theme introduced in ICS.
the whole Paranoid Android is all about changing DPI and integrating the status bar on the bottom with the nav bars instead of having a status bar up on top.
I'm looking for a rom that I only need to think about flashing every few months really - want something ultra stable (so stock like as that should be the most stable rom )
just wanted a few nicer features thrown in without all the clutter of CM/AKOP
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That's not a definition of a "minimal" ROM then. You're looking for a stable ROM. At this date, I feel that every ROM is stable and it's practically up to you on what kind of additional features you want with your phone. That's all it really comes down to.
New ROM versions come out because they want to put out newer features (yes they are stable). No one forces you to update them, you can flash it once and leave it. When you want to, you can dirty flash up upon it.
If you don't want to update your ROM then why did you flash custom ROMs in the first place?
According to your OP Post,
root
deodex
Facebook contacts Sync
Enhanced Quick Settings
Enhanced Power Menu
Patched Google Wallet (to allow root)
t9 dialer
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Root: All ROMs have it
Deodex: All ROMs come deodexed
Enhanced Quick Settings: most ROMs has this. some ROMs use tiles only. CM10.1 has both
Enhanced Power Menu: most ROMs have this.
Google Wallet: no such thing as patched google wallet. google wallet from the play store works fine with root.
t9 dialer: most roms have this again.
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it all comes down to YOU as an individual going to the forum and looking at your options. they're all fantastic choices and all stable roms. read the last couple of pages for feedback. its not that hard man. its like you asking the question, "what is the most minimal house" you want something stable... each rom has its own uniqueness, its up to you to decide what you want.
with my biasm, id go towards cyanogenmod10.1 + franco kernel for the cleanest code and has everything i want.
Try out maddogin's stock ROM, he built it from stock ROM and he added few things on it, such as reboot, battery icon changer, theming and stuff. So that's basically stock ROM with few added extras. Maybe u could make a request on his forum about Facebook sync etc. It is in nexus 4 original development.
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zephiK said:
lol what are you talking about. all ROMs for N4 look like a stock interface, they're all built upon the Holo theme introduced in ICS.
the whole Paranoid Android is all about changing DPI and integrating the status bar on the bottom with the nav bars instead of having a status bar up on top.
That's not a definition of a "minimal" ROM then. You're looking for a stable ROM. At this date, I feel that every ROM is stable and it's practically up to you on what kind of additional features you want with your phone. That's all it really comes down to.
New ROM versions come out because they want to put out newer features (yes they are stable). No one forces you to update them, you can flash it once and leave it. When you want to, you can dirty flash up upon it.
If you don't want to update your ROM then why did you flash custom ROMs in the first place?
According to your OP Post,
Root: All ROMs have it
Deodex: All ROMs come deodexed
Enhanced Quick Settings: most ROMs has this. some ROMs use tiles only. CM10.1 has both
Enhanced Power Menu: most ROMs have this.
Google Wallet: no such thing as patched google wallet. google wallet from the play store works fine with root.
t9 dialer: most roms have this again.
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it all comes down to YOU as an individual going to the forum and looking at your options. they're all fantastic choices and all stable roms. read the last couple of pages for feedback. its not that hard man. its like you asking the question, "what is the most minimal house" you want something stable... each rom has its own uniqueness, its up to you to decide what you want.
with my biasm, id go towards cyanogenmod10.1 + franco kernel for the cleanest code and has everything i want.
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Possibly because I came from a HTC world where ROMs (non-stock) would be built to aim towards AOSP based roms and would come with instabilities.
All ROMs do come deodexed, but some have options for odex too - I guess it was a bit silly really to put deodex and root on the list, but to be honest it was a copy and paste from a conversation I was having saying what I wanted to gain from my Nexus 4 in addition to stock
EQS and EPM are probably the _first_ things a dev/modder does with a ROM - to be honest I don't know why Google don't add this in to stock. Same with t9 dailer - again coming from a htc where it was built in to their stock roms I got used to it.
In the end I just flashed MCR because it has most features out the box (missing t9 dialer and facebook sync unless you go premium) and it'll do for now.
i'll reconsider again in a few months when I have had time to settle in and life has calmed down over the xmas rush.
I used to flash once per month but I found I dont have that much free time recently so thats my reasoning behind saying that I was looking for something stable that I can leave alone for a few months

[Q] Do you feel the need to run a custom ROM on Nexus 4?

Yes, people... the NEXUS 4!
This is the first time since Qtek 2020 was released that i feel that i no longer need to use a custom rom to fully appreciate a smartphone operating system.
The nexus 4 and Android 4.2.1 is a perfect match:
- everything is speedy
- the functionality is logical
- there is finally encryption included in the operating system from the get-go.
- Updates are instant!
- No apparent bugs with radio and hardware!
I'm in love with this thingy! :victory:
How do you feel about the Nexus 4 and it's operating system, will you put in a custom ROM?
Custom kernel, yes. Custom ROM, not yet.
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already running a custom ROM, you created the thread in the wrong section bro
Not really
Do I need it? no, it does everything I need it to do perfectly. Haven't even rooted yet, but I imagine I'll break down soon and start playing.
A custom kernel may help battery life.
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already running a custom ROM, you created the thread in the wrong section bro
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Ah.. should have been in the Q/A?
Felt like general was more... general.. while Q/A is like it says.. Questions and Answers.
There's no answers here, just a question.
Yes, I like the extra features of custom roms, easy as that.
Thats why its a Nexus, freedom of choice.
its a must, I haven't rooted yet to check any issues before I rely on it, you need custom roms due to the display and dpi, some of the text is too big in apps and don't provide an option so its not using the space effectively, talking about paranoid android rom
Custom kernel is necessary, the stock kernel on this phone sucks.
Custom ROM, not so much but it's nice to have all the extra features.
Transmission sent from my badass Nexus 4.
Kernel, for the moment.
the stock experience is too plain. not enough options. even worse for those coming off of a samsung device. people can talk about the stock experience all they want... but its better on the custom rom side.
As I said in the other thread I tried all the custom ROMs and none were as good as stock. No issues with the stock kernel either. The ease of trying different ROMs and the option to do what we want is awesome though.
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the stock experience is too plain. not enough options. even worse for those coming off of a samsung device. people can talk about the stock experience all they want... but its better on the custom rom side.
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Agreed. Don't get me wrong, stock is great. I've been spoiled rotten by all the great devs on XDA. I can't live without options.
Stock kernel does blow, though.
I did miss T9 in the dialer, but it's not a deal breaker. It's also understandable that T9 isn't in AOSP.
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Custom launcher not enough then?
Damn, should have added that to the question.
What stock kernel would you recommend?
I have only used the stock kernels on all my phones unfortunately, so don't have any experience with that.
fetto666 said:
Custom launcher not enough then?
Damn, should have added that to the question.
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nope. you need a custom rom to edit the navbar and put the menu button back in that so many of us are used to. you also need it to toggle the navbar if you so choose. and many more things.
fetto666 said:
What stock kernel would you recommend?
I have only used the stock kernels on all my phones unfortunately, so don't have any experience with that.
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right now... franco is the best. its smooth, responsive, and is huge for the battery. but his r16 is having random reboot issues. he is fixing right now, once fixed you can add completely stable to the list of things. but i am on r15 and its great. best thing is get franco and do as i do... when there is an update to it... give it a bit and look at the last page of thread to see if its stable.
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nope. you need a custom rom to edit the navbar and put the menu button back in that so many of us are used to. you also need it to toggle the navbar if you so choose. and many more things.
right now... franco is the best. its smooth, responsive, and is huge for the battery. but his r16 is having random reboot issues. he is fixing right now, once fixed you can add completely stable to the list of things. but i am on r15 and its great. best thing is get franco and do as i do... when there is an update to it... give it a bit and look at the last page of thread to see if its stable.
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Thanks a lot for the answers!
Don't understand what you changed in the navbar, do you have link to such a mod?
Thanks, i'll check into the franco kernel, but does changing the kernel affect security??
fetto666 said:
Thanks a lot for the answers!
Don't understand what you changed in the navbar, do you have link to such a mod?
Thanks, i'll check into the franco kernel, but does changing the kernel affect security??
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it can. but i have never had any issues. unless you are in a position to worry about security... with your job, there is nothing to worry about.
edit: added pic.
and if you are in that sort of position to worry about security... the last phone you need is a nexus.
So far, still on stock ROM. If it weren't for ad-blockers requiring it, I wouldn't even have rooted it at this point. I do use Nova Launcher instead of the stock launcher, though. The only reason I might do a custom ROM is because I don't like not having 1% battery in notifications.
I feel like I need to run a custom ROM since custom ROMs have much more tweaks and features that stock does not have. CyanogenMod for example.
Sent from my Nexus 4, powered by CyanogenMod via XDA Developers app.
phermey said:
it can. but i have never had any issues. unless you are in a position to worry about security... with your job, there is nothing to worry about.
edit: added pic.
and if you are in that sort of position to worry about security... the last phone you need is a nexus.
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Thanks for the pic, it sure is special.. looks great!
I do have to worry about security though, but why would you say the last phone needed is a nexus?
Should i go for an iPhone? Because the alternatives are not that great.

To Root or Not To Root?

Hi,
I am new here and I have some doubts on wether to root my 3 months old LG G2 d802. Can someone orient me what are the pros and cons, how to root and what are the things that I can do once rooted?
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It depends on what are you trying to achieve with rooting.
Cons:
- you lose warranty
- if you don't know what you're doing with a rooted phone, you can cause more damage than good
- if you install malware and accidentaly grant it superuser (administrative) privileges, you can lose sensitive data or someone can mess up your phone
Pros:
- you can block ads on a system level
- you can remove unnecessary apps (bloatware, preinstalled carrier apps etc)
- you can visually modify your phone or add useful modules with Xposed framework
- you can save battery by hibernating apps you do not need to have in the background with Greenify
- you can flash a custom recovery which will allow you to make nandroid images (exact snapshots of your system which you can restore in case of problems)
- you can backup and restore apps and their data with Titanium Backup
- you can install custom kernels which allow overclock to make your phone's CPU even faster, or install custom ROMs which bring new looks and stuff (Cloudyfa's ROMs look nice) or revert to a pure Android experience with AOSP ROMs (like CyanogenMod)
Bottomline: if you don't need any of these things, you don't need to root your phone.
fernievidal said:
Hi,
I am new here and I have some doubts on wether to root my 3 months old LG G2 d802. Can someone orient me what are the pros and cons, how to root and what are the things that I can do once rooted?
Sent from my LG-D802 using XDA Free mobile app
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i always root my new android devices, too many pros in rooting
Im curious about this ROM thingy I thought I'd try to root for customization. But I'm still worried about the warranty. Anyway, I'll think about it. It does have a lot of pros but the cons can't be desregarded. Thanks man.
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fernievidal said:
Im curious about this ROM thingy I thought I'd try to root for customization. But I'm still worried about the warranty. Anyway, I'll think about it. It does have a lot of pros but the cons can't be desregarded. Thanks man.
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You can always go back to stock, remove root, remove custom recovery and re-lock boatloader!
I used to root all my phones but with these new phones I'm finding I don't need too.
The most I need is a God set of replacement launchers and those are everywhere.
Sent from my HUAWEI P7-L10 using XDA Premium HD app
fernievidal said:
Im curious about this ROM thingy I thought I'd try to root for customization. But I'm still worried about the warranty. Anyway, I'll think about it. It does have a lot of pros but the cons can't be desregarded. Thanks man.
Sent from my LG-D802 using XDA Free mobile app
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It isn't worth it. There are no quality ROMs for this phone that work as well as the stock ROM. They make it look different and maybe that is cool to show off to your friends, but at the end of the day not a single ROM works as well as stock.
This phone is amazing, but was an absolute failure for the ROM market. Most of them are cobbled together, buggy, lacking features and not really any faster or better.
A ROM should make the phone better, and on many phones they can and do. But on this phone, none of them make it better.
Stick with stock, IMHO, especially if you are worried about your warranty.
If you want to customize how the phone looks and feels, there are a dozen really nice aftermarket launchers that you can install and completely transform how it looks and feels, without jacking anything up or risking a warranty issue...
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kolembo said:
I used to root all my phones but with these new phones I'm finding I don't need too.
The most I need is a God set of replacement launchers and those are everywhere.
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Exactly. You can disable 90% of the bloat without root, right from the App Manager, and not have to worry about it hosing a future OTA.
SquireSCA said:
It isn't worth it. There are no quality ROMs for this phone that work as well as the stock ROM. They make it look different and maybe that is cool to show off to your friends, but at the end of the day not a single ROM works as well as stock.
This phone is amazing, but was an absolute failure for the ROM market. Most of them are cobbled together, buggy, lacking features and not really any faster or better.
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Must be a d802 issue d800 is fine..
khaytsus said:
Must be a d802 issue d800 is fine..
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I don't have that, I am on VZW.
I have tried about every ROM out there. I think that CM dropped the phone, there is no dev work really going on there. They all are buggy, none of them truly work as well as stock, etc...
I like ROMs when they actually make something better. Doing ROMs just for the sake of using a ROM, to me seems silly if they take away features, cause the phone to hang or reboot, don't give a performance improvement, cause volume or BT issues, etc...
When you can debloat a stock unrooted phone in less than 2 minutes, and install a launcher that radically changes how the phone looks and feels and lets you tailor it to your idea of how it should look, while keeping your warranty and not having to worry about not getting OTA's, it just makes sense to keep it stock...
SquireSCA said:
I don't have that, I am on VZW.
I have tried about every ROM out there. I think that CM dropped the phone, there is no dev work really going on there. They all are buggy, none of them truly work as well as stock, etc...
I like ROMs when they actually make something better. Doing ROMs just for the sake of using a ROM, to me seems silly if they take away features, cause the phone to hang or reboot, don't give a performance improvement, cause volume or BT issues, etc...
When you can debloat a stock unrooted phone in less than 2 minutes, and install a launcher that radically changes how the phone looks and feels and lets you tailor it to your idea of how it should look, while keeping your warranty and not having to worry about not getting OTA's, it just makes sense to keep it stock...
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I just bought a Verizon G2 on Swappa, so I did the towelroot thing (can't post links yet but I followed a guide posted on wonderhowto . com on how to root with towelroot).
I am basically fine with stock, just wanted to be able to mod it a little bit. For example, I've already changed the softkeys to my liking.
What I don't understand is the recovery/backup apps that I need to run, and in what order. For example, do I need to run AutoRec and/or TWRP if I am NOT going to install any custom roms? I'm not sure I completely understand this step of the process, or the order.
Basically, I'd like to install some mods, the camera mod, sound mods, ect, and would like a way to "restore" my phone (go back to its current state). Warranty is not an issue for me since I bought the phone used.
fernievidal said:
Hi,
I am new here and I have some doubts on wether to root my 3 months old LG G2 d802. Can someone orient me what are the pros and cons, how to root and what are the things that I can do once rooted?
Sent from my LG-D802 using XDA Free mobile app
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There are tons of things that you can do with a rooted phone.
When i first got my G2 5 months ago the first thing i did was root.
Here is a list of what i have now.
Rooted with TowelRoot (One click rooting APP)
Installed custom recovery(TWRP) with AutoRec
Stock Rom (AOSP Theme) found HERE
ROOT NEEDED:
Xposed Framework
G2 Xposed mods:
transparent nav bar and notif panel (no shadows)
4th nav bar icon (recent apps)
removed carrier lable on lock screen
removed some notification icons to clean t up
long press menu button to lock phone
bleed immersive mode
long press volume up button for flashlight (while locked)
OTHER Xposed Mods
Instagram downloader(ads download option to instagram app)
wifi password viewer(show password of saved wifi connections)
extended power menu(allows to reboot in recovery and other neet features)
google play music(will open play music to the specific tab you desire)
Other things
Native Hotspot Hack (free wifi tether)
Screen cast screen recorder
This is all i have for now because i am trying to keep it simple.
There are many other things i did not mention that can be done with a rooted phone
Not to mention all the awesome roms you can install.
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fernievidal said:
Im curious about this ROM thingy I thought I'd try to root for customization. But I'm still worried about the warranty. Anyway, I'll think about it. It does have a lot of pros but the cons can't be desregarded. Thanks man.
Sent from my LG-D802 using XDA Free mobile app
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You can always factory reset to show like never been rooted.

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