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Xperia Play announced for AT&T. Supposed to be a 4G phone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iVzReSMVaI
No word on the Release date yet. Will come in 2 colors - black and Stealth blue.
From the hardware perspective, it is almost completely similar to the Rogers version, except for the triangle,circle keys. They are organized differently.
And comes with different set of games.
Screenshots: http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/12/atandt-launches-sony-ericsson-xperia-play-with-blue-color-option/

I doubt the face buttons are going to remain like that -_-

That's weird. Seems like someone put the phone together wrong.

yeah it looks like it was assembled incorrectly, the button layout is sideways as if you were going to hold the phone in portrait mode to play, the button layout is an icon of the playstation brand so i doubt they would change it

i like how verizon got shafted on this one we get the one that is only in one color, cant be rooted, and no unlock boot loader and no 4g.... and i like the timescape UI better to =/
what rep made plans to sell this phone to verizon when they locked it down for us and everyone else got a cool white one and can be rooted

Seriously, Verizon screwed up with their version of the Xperia Play. I think Verizon also has a bad habit of adding their own version of bloatware to the mobile OS, and generally crippling it to the point where it becomes irritating to having to deal with them and their nickle and dime ways.

abudabu said:
Seriously, Verizon screwed up with their version of the Xperia Play. I think Verizon also has a bad habit of adding their own version of bloatware to the mobile OS, and generally crippling it to the point where it becomes irritating to having to deal with them and their nickle and dime ways.
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I really didn't think it was so bad, most of the apps loaded by VZW don't get in my way, but the more I think about how they locked down this version of the phone the more I get a bad taste in my mouth.
Reminds me of the Motorola V710 debacle, I was able to make custom MP3s and ringtones on that phone, then VZW issued an update that crippled and removed that ability. Needless to say I was part of that Class Action Lawsuit.

abudabu said:
Seriously, Verizon screwed up with their version of the Xperia Play. I think Verizon also has a bad habit of adding their own version of bloatware to the mobile OS, and generally crippling it to the point where it becomes irritating to having to deal with them and their nickle and dime ways.
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Actually ATT is the company that cripples the abilities of their android devices more so then Verizon.. I mean why take "Unknown Sources" off all the phones? Half of my apps I wouldn't be able to install because of ATT doing that. Mostly all of the Emulation applications since Google is cracking down on it because of pressure from ATT and Verizon jointly. Since a alot of apps that have been taken off the market and are only available on other sources they are then not able to be installed on an ATT android device unless someone roots the phone where as the Verizon model you can still use any app you find.
And no one said that the Verizon model is NOT root able it is just that the CDMA version is a minority since there are so many other GSM based versions of the phone out there and all they have found is a back door through while using a Sim Card and entering in an IMEI.
Also with the amount of bloatware that comes on the Verizon model compared to other verizon wireless android phones it is minimal on the Xperia play. the only real bloatware we have is Backup Assistant, VZ Navigator and V Cast Apps (to get the games)
My only complaint about the Verizon version is the lack of a root. but I am confident that will change with time.
Ohh and when ATT says 4g, what they really mean is HSPDA+ more or less 3g with them pushing more speed out of it to try and keep up with Sprint and Verizon. Sprint and Verizon already stated that if they wanted to they could push their 3g bandwidth up to match those speeds but doing so would put more strain on the system like it has to the other companies. They believe expanding their WiMax and LTE Networks is the better way to go, and honestly having 20mbs+ on a smart phone while being out and about is a little over kill, I mean what are you doing? Downloading a 720p bluray rip to your phone? congrats you just went through all 2gb of your data on ATT in the matter of 3 hours.

Why on earth would the gamepad look like that???

JasonKnight said:
Actually ATT is the company that cripples the abilities of their android devices more so then Verizon.. I mean why take "Unknown Sources" off all the phones? Half of my apps I wouldn't be able to install because of ATT doing that. Mostly all of the Emulation applications since Google is cracking down on it because of pressure from ATT and Verizon jointly. Since a alot of apps that have been taken off the market and are only available on other sources they are then not able to be installed on an ATT android device unless someone roots the phone where as the Verizon model you can still use any app you find.
And no one said that the Verizon model is NOT root able it is just that the CDMA version is a minority since there are so many other GSM based versions of the phone out there and all they have found is a back door through while using a Sim Card and entering in an IMEI.
Also with the amount of bloatware that comes on the Verizon model compared to other verizon wireless android phones it is minimal on the Xperia play. the only real bloatware we have is Backup Assistant, VZ Navigator and V Cast Apps (to get the games)
My only complaint about the Verizon version is the lack of a root. but I am confident that will change with time.
Ohh and when ATT says 4g, what they really mean is HSPDA+ more or less 3g with them pushing more speed out of it to try and keep up with Sprint and Verizon. Sprint and Verizon already stated that if they wanted to they could push their 3g bandwidth up to match those speeds but doing so would put more strain on the system like it has to the other companies. They believe expanding their WiMax and LTE Networks is the better way to go, and honestly having 20mbs+ on a smart phone while being out and about is a little over kill, I mean what are you doing? Downloading a 720p bluray rip to your phone? congrats you just went through all 2gb of your data on ATT in the matter of 3 hours.
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Actually ATT stated they won't be doing this anymore I forget which phone, I think the Infuse 4G, that allows side-loading and it will be updating the phones that are locked down currently... Just saying

ronii1123 said:
Actually ATT stated they won't be doing this anymore I forget which phone, I think the Infuse 4G, that allows side-loading and it will be updating the phones that are locked down currently... Just saying
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It's still a sleezy thing to do in the first place. That's a damn handy feature and without it you may as well have an iPhone... Ok, maybe not

Haha I have that phone allready
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Its a prototype phone tho bought it off some Guy on Craigslist
Sent from my R800at using XDA App

sh4dow1 said:
Haha I have that phone allready
http://tapatalk.com/mu/a6cd8888-6fe9-9f30.jpg[IMG][IMG]http://tapatalk.com/mu/a6cd8888-6ff6-4332.jpg[IMG]
Its a prototype phone tho bought it off some Guy on Craigslist
Sent from my R800at using XDA App[/QUOTE]
proof that "unknown sources" check box is there?
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More evidence of US Variants getting a S4 Krait.

http://www.gsmarena.com/dualcore_snapdragon_s4_confirmed_for_verizon_galaxy_s_iii-news-4244.php

SlimJ87D said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/dualcore_snapdragon_s4_confirmed_for_verizon_galaxy_s_iii-news-4244.php
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Att is getting the exynos quad-core version like Rogers.
Sent from my HTC One X on Leedroid's ROM v5.1.0.

This isn't a bad thing, but it is also underwhelming. Every high end phone released in the US markets has the same SoC. Software battles are not very interesting, at least to me. On ATT both of the high end Android phones are very similar in terms of hardware with the HTC One X arguably being better since it is already out and has a better screen. Not sure what samsung was thinking with putting out a phone with the same internals as a rival a couple months later.

ceo.mtcl said:
Att is getting the exynos quad-core version like Rogers.
Sent from my HTC One X on Leedroid's ROM v5.1.0.
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And who said that Rogers is getting an Exynoes version... the only evidence was a ad generated by google... unless you have another source.

SlimJ87D said:
And who said that Rogers is getting an Exynoes version... the only evidence was a ad generated by google... unless you have another source.
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This ad banner...
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Until something more concrete appears, I'm going with this from the article...
"Of course an ad banner is hardly conclusive"
http://www.androidcentral.com/ad-ba...y-s-iii-could-feature-new-exynos-chip-and-lte
From the New Orleans event. Note the use of the word "optimized."
“Samsung Mobile is planning a U.S. version of Galaxy S III, optimized for the fastest LTE and HSPA+ networks in the U.S., which will be available in the summer of 2012. Exact timing and retail channel availability is not being announced at this time. We believe the Galaxy S III is the most anticipated product in the 20-year history of Samsung Mobile; therefore, we will continue to share information as it becomes available.” – Samsung
This could play out two ways...
1) Samsung's developed a GSM LTE-capable version of the Exynos chip and it will be used everywhere it can be. In North America that would mean Rogers, AT&T, and Sprint. Since CDMA's so limited, the VZW SGS3 would likely use the S4 chip. T-Mobile would likely get S4 also because S4 supports AWS and when faced with the same choice in the SGS2 they went Qualcomm vs. developing their own AWS radio. If Samsung was going this route, there's no reason they wouldn't have said so at the UnBoxed event.
2) LTE and AWS SGS3's will all be S4. Either because Samsung didn't have time to integrate LTE, couldn't match the S4's fantastic battery life, or that it might actually be cheaper. Samsung builds great SoC's but they have no track record (yet) in radios. There were no repercussions (other than some customer disappointment) when Samsung went this route last time. Also, when they did, they waited until right up to launch to disclose that the U.S. market wasn't getting Exynos (except the non-LTE AT&T version).
I have no idea which way it'll go (and neither do any of you). I wouldn't bet odds in Vegas based on a misplaced banner ad.

If you think AT&T is going to fragment the sales/updates as far as one that is quad-core/hspa/3G and one that is Dual-Core/HSPA/LTE, you are mistaken. Ain't. Gonna. Happen.
There will be one model, one that is usable on the LTE network.

bbeelzebub said:
If you think AT&T is going to fragment the sales/updates as far as one that is quad-core/hspa/3G and one that is Dual-Core/HSPA/LTE, you are mistaken. Ain't. Gonna. Happen.
There will be one model, one that is usable on the LTE network.
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Yeah sure. Too bad that's not true with the SGS2 and the SGS2 Skyrocket....

SlimJ87D said:
Yeah sure. Too bad that's not true with the SGS2 and the SGS2 Skyrocket....
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That was last year. We're into the LTE (True 4G) era.
Regardless. I'll have fun watching some of you waiting on that Quad Core.

bbeelzebub said:
That was last year. We're into the LTE (True 4G) era.
Regardless. I'll have fun watching some of you waiting on that Quad Core.
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Again, no evidence whatsoever that you will be getting a Exynos + 4G LTE radio with Verizon.

SlimJ87D said:
Yeah sure. Too bad that's not true with the SGS2 and the SGS2 Skyrocket....
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That U.S. introduction of the SGS2 was one of the strangest launches ever. First, it took Samsung and the U.S. carriers six months after the UK launch to bring it to the U.S. Then all but the AT&T version were totally different phones based on the Asian Celox and SGS2's in name only. If you remember the launch event, the T-Mobile version was locked in a Plexiglas box and not allowed to be touched. VZW skipped the SGS2 entirely. On top of that, two weeks after it launched, AT&T announced the SkyRocket which was a Celox variant and closer to the other U.S. carrier versions. Samsung’s in a much more powerful position than they were last go round so hopefully the phones will be less molested and the introduction better synchronized.
When the OG SGS2 launched on AT&T they hadn't even lit up their first LTE city. It would be strange for them to launch another high-end HSPA+ phone with as fast as they are growing (and pushing) their LTE network. But, based on the SGS2 launch, anything's possible.

BarryH_GEG said:
That U.S. introduction of the SGS2 was one of the strangest launches ever. First, it took Samsung and the U.S. carriers six months after the UK launch to bring it to the U.S. Then all but the AT&T version were totally different phones based on the Asian Celox and SGS2's in name only. If you remember the launch event, the T-Mobile version was locked in a Plexiglas box and not allowed to be touched. VZW skipped the SGS2 entirely. On top of that, two weeks after it launched, AT&T announced the SkyRocket which was a Celox variant and closer to the other U.S. carrier versions. Samsung’s in a much more powerful position than they were last go round so hopefully the phones will be less molested and the introduction better synchronized.
When the OG SGS2 launched on AT&T they hadn't even lit up their first LTE city. It would be strange for them to launch another high-end HSPA+ phone with as fast as they are growing (and pushing) their LTE network. But, based on the SGS2 launch, anything's possible.
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I think the transition to LTE was difficult for Samsung and satisfying their customers. Then having to design multiple variants on top of that some with the S3 and LTE radio and some without it.
It takes hours and hours of meetings, designing, quality control, etc. I could already predict all the trouble that all parties had to go through, Samsung, Sprint, T-Mobile etc. If it wasn't for our wide population, I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung said "the hell with the US" and just stuck with releasing one type, the international version for everyone else.

SlimJ87D said:
Again, no evidence whatsoever that you will be getting a Exynos + 4G LTE radio with Verizon.
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I never claimed otherwise.
I think there is sufficient proof out that Verizon will be getting a Qualcomm S4, just like Sprint... just like AT&T..... just like T-Mobile.

bbeelzebub said:
I think there is sufficient proof out that Verizon will be getting a Qualcomm S4
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Almost certain.
just like Sprint...
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Likely as their CDMA/LTE like VZW.
just like AT&T.....
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Competely unknown.
just like T-Mobile.
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Completely unknown but AWS is easier on S4.

Nexus 6 Pre orders on Play store - Now will be Available on Wednesday of every week

Updated - 11/05/2014:
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Play store is updated with nexus 6 and Pre-orders will be available starting on 10/29:
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_6_64GB_Midnight_Blue?id=nexus_6_blue_64gb
Network shows all different bands which tells that 1 model across all carriers :good:
Network
2G/3G/4G LTE
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/8
LTE: Bands: 2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/25/26/29/41
CA DL: Bands: B2-B13, B2-B17, B2-29, B4-B5, B4-B13, B4-B17, B4-B29
Nexus 6 Play store page showing all US carriers:
Follow instructions from below link to get instant notification on your smart phone (via Pushbullet or Twitter) when Nexus 6 becomes available for purchase on Play store:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2j8bq3/howto_setup_nexus_6_release_notifications/
Most likely Nexus 6 should be available for purchase at 2pm est on the 29th (based on previous Nexus sale start times on Play store).
Nexus 6 expected launch date is Nov 12th

droidguy22 said:
Play store is updated with nexus 6 and Pre-orders will be available starting on 10/29:
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_6_64GB_Midnight_Blue?id=nexus_6_blue_64gb
Network shows all different bands which tells that 1 model across all carriers :good:
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2G/3G/4G LTE
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/8
LTE: Bands: 2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/25/26/29/41
CA DL: Bands: B2-B13, B2-B17, B2-29, B4-B5, B4-B13, B4-B17, B4-B29
I am ready to order on 29th and when it arrives will switch nano sim from my Verizon Moto x, can't wait for Nexus 6...
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Cool. Nice to have it officially dated. But you may want to change the minor typo in your title from 19th to 29th*.

It may have all bands but the jury is still out on wether Verizon can block an N6 not purchased thru them.

halon17 said:
It may have all bands but the jury is still out on wether Verizon can block an N6 not purchased thru them.
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Yea this is what I'm waiting you find out.

Us Verizon folk who want the device ASAP are really pretty boned, aren't we? Spending $650+ is a big gamble if the phone ends up not working on Verizon (well, I guess we could still return it and get refunded, but still), but if the past is any indication, preorders will probably go super quick and the device will be backordered on the Play Store within minutes.
The way I see it, and I've been spouting this in other threads, and perhaps it's just my own nonsense, but the way I see it, if Verizon weren't going to "play ball", so to speak, wouldn't Google have just continued skipping over them for Nexus phones? Google never pushed for Verizon to get the last two Nexus phones, so if Verizon were going to be problematic about it, why didn't Google just continue passing them over? I dunno. I want to be optimistic that I can order one from the Play Store on the 29th and be fine. To me, I just feel like Google had no reason to get this phone on Verizon if Verizon were just going to continue being a pain about it.

halon17 said:
It may have all bands but the jury is still out on wether Verizon can block an N6 not purchased thru them.
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I doubt it, the fact that Google has inluded Verizon name/logo on the Nexus page and only 1 model on the Play store with all Network bands (including Verizon CDMA bands) makes me believe that the Play store model would work on Verizon without an issue.
http://www.google.com/nexus/6/
I think Verizon is in agreement with Google/Motorola to allow Nexus 6 on their network. Probably they don't
want to miss the Nexus 6 on their network and loose many of their customers who are die hard Android
fans and for whom Nexus 6 is very appealing/enticing smart phone and would switch carriers.

mrw1215 said:
Us Verizon folk who want the device ASAP are really pretty boned, aren't we? Spending $650+ is a big gamble if the phone ends up not working on Verizon (well, I guess we could still return it and get refunded, but still), but if the past is any indication, preorders will probably go super quick and the device will be backordered on the Play Store within minutes.
The way I see it, and I've been spouting this in other threads, and perhaps it's just my own nonsense, but the way I see it, if Verizon weren't going to "play ball", so to speak, wouldn't Google have just continued skipping over them for Nexus phones? Google never pushed for Verizon to get the last two Nexus phones, so if Verizon were going to be problematic about it, why didn't Google just continue passing them over? I dunno. I want to be optimistic that I can order one from the Play Store on the 29th and be fine. To me, I just feel like Google had no reason to get this phone on Verizon if Verizon were just going to continue being a pain about it.
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Your last sentence says everything: "Google had no reason to get this phone on Verizon if Verizon were just going to continue being a pain about it"
the fact that Google has inluded Verizon name/logo on the Nexus page and only 1 model on the Play store with all Network bands (including Verizon CDMA bands) makes me believe that the Play store model would work on Verizon without an issue.
http://www.google.com/nexus/6/
I think Verizon is in agreement with Google/Motorola to allow Nexus 6 on their network. Probably they don't
want to miss the Nexus 6 on their network and loose many of their customers who are die hard Android
fans and for whom Nexus 6 is very appealing/enticing smart phone and would switch carriers.

It probably will be usable if you preorder thru google, but i don't see verizon anouncing until after the Droid Turbo release.

halon17 said:
It probably will be usable if you preorder thru google, but i don't see verizon anouncing until after the Droid Turbo release.
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Which is the 28th, the day before the N6 is live

joshm.1219 said:
Which is the 28th, the day before the N6 is live
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No way they would say anything the day after. They need to give their pride and joy Droid line time to sell.
I could see them letting people get it through Google but never making an official anouncement for clise to a month. They never really advertised the GNex. I walked into few stores that had nothing showing off the GNex.

I will be trying to keep my unlimited data while buying a subsidized phone from Verizon. Spending $50-$200 is a lot better than $650, and this phone is plenty good enough to last 2 years.

Quick, kind of off topic question.. Why would one buy the N6 from the play store for the full $650 when you can get a subsidized version from Verizon and its the EXACT same phone? Just doesn't make sense to me is all.

ECrispy said:
I will be trying to keep my unlimited data while buying a subsidized phone from Verizon. Spending $50-$200 is a lot better than $650, and this phone is plenty good enough to last 2 years.
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Yea I'm probably going to the Sprint store and get a subsidized N6...$650-700 is too steep for my checkbook this season.
Baurblades43 said:
Quick, kind of off topic question.. Why would one buy the N6 from the play store for the full $650 when you can get a subsidized version from Verizon and its the EXACT same phone? Just doesn't make sense to me is all.
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One is carrier unlocked to start and the other is not. So no it is not "the exact same phone".

Baurblades43 said:
Quick, kind of off topic question.. Why would one buy the N6 from the play store for the full $650 when you can get a subsidized version from Verizon and its the EXACT same phone? Just doesn't make sense to me is all.
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UDP, man UDP!
Or not be locked into a contract. If it's the same phone, you could take it to any carrier you like at any time.

wtherrell said:
UDP, man UDP!
Or not be locked into a contract. If it's the same phone, you could take it to any carrier you like at any time.
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Skripka said:
Yea I'm probably going to the Sprint store and get a subsidized N6...$650-700 is too steep for my checkbook this season.
One is carrier unlocked to start and the other is not. So no it is not "the exact same phone".
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I thought the phone had all the bands though? Since it does, couldn't you buy it on verizon, and essentially just leave the carrier but be forced to pay the remaining price of the phone?

Actually Verizon has all their phones unlocked. And Nexus is going to be boot loader unlocked anyway. Technically there is zero difference between Play Store and Verizon version, the only difference might be Verizon controlling activations via IMEI checks.

Baurblades43 said:
Quick, kind of off topic question.. Why would one buy the N6 from the play store for the full $650 when you can get a subsidized version from Verizon and its the EXACT same phone? Just doesn't make sense to me is all.
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Why? Not everyone does subsidized. I have unlimited so I'll be paying full price

Baurblades43 said:
I thought the phone had all the bands though? Since it does, couldn't you buy it on verizon, and essentially just leave the carrier but be forced to pay the remaining price of the phone?
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Yup you could...or you could serve out your contract and wait for it to expire.
With the new regs regarding unlocking phones I believe that is how it works

Baurblades43 said:
Quick, kind of off topic question.. Why would one buy the N6 from the play store for the full $650 when you can get a subsidized version from Verizon and its the EXACT same phone? Just doesn't make sense to me is all.
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People who are buying it at retail are most likely using the phone on an off-contract plan, which are usually cheaper than their on-contract counterparts.

jasonleb1 said:
People who are buying it at retail are most likely using the phone on an off-contract plan, which are usually cheaper than their on-contract counterparts.
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Gotcha, thank you.

I am starting to doubt "carrier availability" will work the way we think of it.

I am starting to doubt "carrier availability" will work the way we think of it.
We know that the Nexus 6 is able to work with all US bands and LTE bands for US Carriers, however I am starting to believe that the device availability might not strictly be sold through said carriers.
We know for sure that T-Mobile US is getting the Nexus, and has been the only one to (Proudly, might I add) announce it and prepare to sell it. While all other US carriers are still up in the air at the moment.
I believe either:
1.) The Nexus 6 will be sold by Google Play and T-Mobile US as the first retailer, later on in 2014/2015 other US carriers will be able to carry it and sell it through them but T-Mobile has the first dibs on selling the device via carrier.
-OR-
2.) The Nexus 6 will only be sold through Google Play and exclusively through T-Mobile US, with no other US carriers being able to sell the device, but will be able to be brought to said carrier to use after purchasing through Google Play, Best Buy, Amazon or T-Mobile directly.
Evidence suggesting this goes with Verizon's entire focus on releasing the Droid Turbo, the supposed Global version being released on AT&T (rumored) and no other indication that these carriers aside from T-Mobile US confirmed to actually carry and sell the device directly.
What does this mean? It means that while T-Mobile might be the only US carrier to sell the device, it still does not mean that it will be the only carrier to use the device. Other Carriers will be able to take advantage of the N6 with all the radio bands it can use, but they might not be selling it due to them not being able to comply with Google's contract upon selling the devices. (This supposed contract being that if they pass compliance with Google they can sell the Nexus 6 direct).
Whatever the case will be, if the other carriers refuse to sell it then the worry about carrier bloat becomes less of a worry. That said the availability of obtaining one becomes by far, more difficult for those outside of T-Mobile US.
What's the genuine thought about this to everyone? Would this be a horrible thing or would it be an alright thing?

Dr Faustus said:
We know that the Nexus 6 is able to work with all US bands and LTE bands for US Carriers, however I am starting to believe that the device availability might not strictly be sold through said carriers.
We know for sure that T-Mobile US is getting the Nexus, and has been the only one to (Proudly, might I add) announce it and prepare to sell it. While all other US carriers are still up in the air at the moment.
I believe either:
1.) The Nexus 6 will be sold by Google Play and T-Mobile US as the first retailer, later on in 2014/2015 other US carriers will be able to carry it and sell it through them but T-Mobile has the first dibs on selling the device via carrier.
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2.) The Nexus 6 will only be sold through Google Play and exclusively through T-Mobile US, with no other US carriers being able to sell the device, but will be able to be brought to said carrier to use after purchasing through Google Play, Best Buy, Amazon or T-Mobile directly.
Evidence suggesting this goes with Verizon's entire focus on releasing the Droid Turbo, the supposed Global version being released on AT&T (rumored) and no other indication that these carriers aside from T-Mobile US confirmed to actually carry and sell the device directly.
What does this mean? It means that while T-Mobile might be the only US carrier to sell the device, it still does not mean that it will be the only carrier to use the device. Other Carriers will be able to take advantage of the N6 with all the radio bands it can use, but they might not be selling it due to them not being able to comply with Google's contract upon selling the devices. (This supposed contract being that if they pass compliance with Google they can sell the Nexus 6 direct).
Whatever the case will be, if the other carriers refuse to sell it then the worry about carrier bloat becomes less of a worry. That said the availability of obtaining one becomes by far, more difficult for those outside of T-Mobile US.
What's the genuine thought about this to everyone? Would this be a horrible thing or would it be an alright thing?
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Did you not see the carriers listed on the Pre-Order page? That would lead most people to believe that those carriers will INDEED be offering the Nexus 6.
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Except that you're 100% wrong - you know, since carriers announced it.

bloodiedwraith said:
Except that you're 100% wrong - you know, since carriers announced it.
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Where have carriers themselves announced that they would be selling it aside from T-Mobile US in the states?

Baldilocks said:
Did you not see the carriers listed on the Pre-Order page? That would lead most people to believe that those carriers will INDEED be offering the Nexus 6.
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In one of the press releases it was stated that the device would be sold through any of those carriers barring that they are compliant with Google on selling the device. Just because it shows the carriers it can be used from does not mean they will all be available to sell it if they are not compliant to Google's contract over selling the device through Carriers.
T-Mobile US is the only US Carrier that has complied and has announced to officially be selling it. Where as Verizon, has been doing nothing but talking up about the Droid Turbo. Please find a better means of evidence to support against me.

Well there is this for AT&T....
http://www.att.com/cellphones/motorola/nexus-6.html#fbid=ff17190cQrP
And this....
http://about.att.com/story/att_to_welcome_first_nexus_device_confirms_nexus_6_will_join_the_nations_most_reliable_4g_lte_network.html

Dr Faustus said:
Where have carriers themselves announced that they would be selling it aside from T-Mobile US in the states?
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Lol
AT&T
Sprint

Dr Faustus said:
In one of the press releases it was stated that the device would be sold through any of those carriers barring that they are compliant with Google on selling the device. Just because it shows the carriers it can be used from does not mean they will all be available to sell it if they are not compliant to Google's contract over selling the device through Carriers.
T-Mobile US is the only US Carrier that has complied and has announced to officially be selling it. Where as Verizon, has been doing nothing but talking up about the Droid Turbo. Please find a better means of evidence to support against me.
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AT&T has an official Nexus 6 page. You can find it by googling "at&t nexus 6". (I can't link outside sites yet)
I very much doubt that at&t would have built this page if they weren't planning on selling the device.

Dr Faustus said:
We know that the Nexus 6 is able to work with all US bands and LTE bands for US Carriers, however I am starting to believe that the device availability might not strictly be sold through said carriers.
We know for sure that T-Mobile US is getting the Nexus, and has been the only one to (Proudly, might I add) announce it and prepare to sell it. While all other US carriers are still up in the air at the moment.
I believe either:
1.) The Nexus 6 will be sold by Google Play and T-Mobile US as the first retailer, later on in 2014/2015 other US carriers will be able to carry it and sell it through them but T-Mobile has the first dibs on selling the device via carrier.
-OR-
2.) The Nexus 6 will only be sold through Google Play and exclusively through T-Mobile US, with no other US carriers being able to sell the device, but will be able to be brought to said carrier to use after purchasing through Google Play, Best Buy, Amazon or T-Mobile directly.
Evidence suggesting this goes with Verizon's entire focus on releasing the Droid Turbo, the supposed Global version being released on AT&T (rumored) and no other indication that these carriers aside from T-Mobile US confirmed to actually carry and sell the device directly.
What does this mean? It means that while T-Mobile might be the only US carrier to sell the device, it still does not mean that it will be the only carrier to use the device. Other Carriers will be able to take advantage of the N6 with all the radio bands it can use, but they might not be selling it due to them not being able to comply with Google's contract upon selling the devices. (This supposed contract being that if they pass compliance with Google they can sell the Nexus 6 direct).
Whatever the case will be, if the other carriers refuse to sell it then the worry about carrier bloat becomes less of a worry. That said the availability of obtaining one becomes by far, more difficult for those outside of T-Mobile US.
What's the genuine thought about this to everyone? Would this be a horrible thing or would it be an alright thing?
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Google reps confirm carrier devices. However if you want the pure Android experience you'll order from the Play Store.

move along op is a troll

Someone didnt do their homework before posting....

How do people not do homework?

The reason why Verizon talks so much about & has hyped the new Turbo is because it's a beast spec wise, a flagship type device under the Droid name that is "exclusive" & synonymous with Verizon. I get normal people all the time asking about the Droid phones, & don't really think of Samsung, HTC, LG as Android, but they just say "What do you have for Droid phones. There is a lot at stake with reviving the Droid name, just look at Motos website about the Turbo. There will be a lot of Turbos sold, it's a moneymaker for both companies.
I completely disagree with all of your points, & Verizon is slow to announce every device.

kyan~ said:
move along op is a troll
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Just because I did not see the other press releases of the other US carriers does not automatically make me a "Troll" good sir. I am not like that "oneplus" user.
Consider this thread marked for deletion.

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Please do not jump on someone, a pointer to the correct information would suffice.

Alternative to unlocking Verizon moto x 2014

Both Motorola and Verizon have verified that the pure edition moto x, which is set up for T-Mobile, will work on Verizon as is. That phone is unlockable and rootable. And it would have the added advantage of being eligible for Moto Care protection plan - two year extended warranty covering accidents for $89. If anyone has a reason why this option is not viable please post it here.

Not paying 500$ for a phone..its not that serious

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The T-Mobile version doesn't have CDMA

Good luck getting Verizon to activate that phone....

I've requested the IMEI number for a T-Mobile pure edition, and I'll run it by Verizon and see what they say about activating it.

>>Do you have a citation for this?
I have a recorded conversation with Verizon verifying this, nothing written.

Legacystar said:
The T-Mobile version doesn't have CDMA
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according to verizon, the hardware is the same in both phones, the cdma band just hasn't been activated, and this can be done by verizon. I'm still waiting for an imei number from a pure edition to verify that. If I can't get one, I'll buy a phone and try it. I have at least 7 days to return it for a full refund.

dmm108 said:
according to verizon, the hardware is the same in both phones, the cdma band just hasn't been activated, and this can be done by verizon. I'm still waiting for an imei number from a pure edition to verify that. If I can't get one, I'll buy a phone and try it. I have at least 7 days to return it for a full refund.
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If this works I'll be so bad I paid full price for my Verizon x

PILLMUZIK3600 said:
Not paying 500$ for a phone..its not that serious
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Why not? I don't see it as any different then spending $1000+ on a laptop. These things aren't just phones anymore, they are incredibly powerful handheld computers. $500 for the Moto X is a steal.

dmm108 said:
I've requested the IMEI number for a T-Mobile pure edition, and I'll run it by Verizon and see what they say about activating it.
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I just spoke to a Verizon and Motorola tech support and they both said that the phone will work. However the Verizon tech requested the IMEI number to confirm and I don't have one.
Please let me know if that will really work, because I want to buy a Pure Edition so bad!!!!
Thanks

I'm traveling until the middle of next week, so have patience - I'll be getting to it when I return. I'm committed to trying to put a pure edition on Verizon, at very least as proof as concept, even if I end up just getting another DE.

So is this kind of like the nexus 6 being able to run on Verizon if you throw an already active Sim card in it?
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It doesn't look like the pure edition supports LTE band 13 that Verizon uses. You'd only get band 4 in select areas. Also doesn't appear to have a CDMA radio as shown on Motorola's website.
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Legacystar said:
So is this kind of like the nexus 6 being able to run on Verizon if you throw an already active Sim card in it?
It doesn't look like the pure edition supports LTE band 13 that Verizon uses. You'd only get band 4 in select areas. Also doesn't appear to have a CDMA radio as shown on Motorola's website.
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Yes, my old sim card in the pure edition. Also, it seems to me much more likely that the bands are all physically present but selectively disabled in firmware rather than motorola making variations on the phone with different hardware. Which was what they basically verified two different times. So I'll try. Orders are running 11 days out, so it will be a while before I can say if this works or not.

dmm108 said:
Yes, my old sim card in the pure edition. Also, it seems to me much more likely that the bands are all physically present but selectively disabled in firmware rather than motorola making variations on the phone with different hardware. Which was what they basically verified two different times. So I'll try. Orders are running 11 days out, so it will be a while before I can say if this works or not.
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So you have a pure on order?
Judging by how you have to put the nexus 6 on Verizon I'd say throwing an already active Sim card in it is more likely the path. I very much doubt a T-Mobile imei will work. Also I was thinking you might need to flash new modem firmware, perhaps the one from the Verizon edition to activate the CDMA radio and band 13, possibly an entire Verizon ROM. Anyone else have this thought?

Legacystar said:
Also I was thinking you might need to flash new modem firmware, perhaps the one from the Verizon edition to activate the CDMA radio and band 13, possibly an entire Verizon ROM. Anyone else have this thought?
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Yes, you would likely have to do that. The problem is all of the Verizon Moto X 2014 are bootloader locked so how do you get the Verizon firmware?

Maybe pull it from one of the update files?

Legacystar said:
Maybe pull it from one of the update files?
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The OTAs are just patches, not the full firmware. I believe Motorola Device Manager updates are the entire firmware file but I am not sure how you get at them with a bootloader locked phone.

dmm108 said:
Both Motorola and Verizon have verified that the pure edition moto x, which is set up for T-Mobile, will work on Verizon as is. That phone is unlockable and rootable. And it would have the added advantage of being eligible for Moto Care protection plan - two year extended warranty covering accidents for $89. If anyone has a reason why this option is not viable please post it here.
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I have pure edition it don't work on Verizon all ready tried it. But I think it would if someone had radio.img to flash

hdtechk said:
I have pure edition it don't work on Verizon all ready tried it. But I think it would if someone had radio.img to flash
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Is there no way to copy the radio image with a locked bl? Should've we be able to read it just not write to it?