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Sony wants to know if you want RAW mode

As topic name says, sony wants to know if there is demand to support "RAW" format for Xperia Line in future lollipop release.
You can read more here
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/04/2...capture-in-future-if-there-is-popular-demand/
And you can request it on official sony forum
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Software-Updates/Camera2-API/m-p/974754#M21577

What is RAW exactly ?
I read it a couple pf times but i am not sure what it is.

Roughly speaking it's an image file. RAW is commonly used by photographers and they have more detail than your average jpeg. But RAW files user alot of memory.
I don't care for it tbh. Jpeg files on my Z2 are big enough when I go full 20 Mpixel.

Honestly I don't care about RAW either. But I want them to implement camera2 api.

I hope we can choose between jpeg or raw if it becomes available not just one

RJASSI21 said:
I hope we can choose between jpeg or raw if it becomes available not just one
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There's no way in hell they'd set RAW as default. RAW is practically unusable without editing, and takes a lot of space. If they implement it it's definitely gonna be optional.
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The thing is, if they add support for RAW photo's, there's a good chance the camera mode will get updated from legacy mode to either limited or full mode. To find out what that would mean, head over to this link. (it also gives an overview of which devices support which camera2 mode) And here is a quote for the lazy ones:
Camera2 Supported Hardware Levels
FULL: all that’s required but not everything
30fps operation at sensor resolution preferred, 20fps required for at least uncompressed YUV output: useful for burst capture and computational photography
Per frame control
Manual sensor control: Like exposure time, ISO gain
Manual post-processing control: color rendition, contrast/gamma curve, noise reduction
Arbitrary cropping, in size and coordinates
At least 3 processed non-stalling output streams formats: like YUV 4:2:0 used for preview.
The ability to list and auto-configure output formats according to a list of supported streams
Note that FULL does not require RAW capture nor valid metadata and calibration profile for the DNG writer.
LIMITED: partial support, your mileage may vary
Cameras describing themselves as limited have some of the Camera2 capabilities but not all of them, and not all the ones required for the FULL supported hardware level either.
The reason would be either because the camera module or its Image Signal Processor lacks some of the required capabilities, or because the manufacturer didn’t implement them so they become available in Camera2 API.
LEGACY: a wrapper around the old Camera API
Legacy Camera2 means only really the historic Camera API is implemented. But for good measure, Lollipop adds a layer over it so modern camera applications do not have to implement two separate ways to control the imaging systems.
Each camera (usually back and front) has its own capability set. For instance, Nexus 5 hardware support level is FULL for the back and LIMITED for the front.
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Right now we're on legacy, which means we don't get any of the fancy new camera2 api features. If Sony updates it, it should be relatively easy to add more features, like manual focus for example. (which I would love to have, personally)
It comes down to this:
Even if you don't care about RAW photography, it's still wise to request it and maybe request support for full mode because that will get you a lot of other cool features as well.

I DO NOT need it.
It's a plus point, but definitely not a necessity.

Raw it's a optional feature, but the other features of camera2api are usefull. We can use finally the sony's sensors at max power I want camera2api and RAW

I think it's rude they are even asking for our opinion. Google published it and Sony excluded it from the original code and now is asking us if we want it.
Personally, it's not as important as - say- a SMS software or not a must but still, why take something out?
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_delice_doluca_ said:
I think it's rude they are even asking for our opinion. Google published it and Sony excluded it from the original code and now is asking us if we want it.
Personally, it's not as important as - say- a SMS software or not a must but still, why take something out?
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At least they lending a listening ear. Most OEMs, including Samsung, excluded it. Industry standard.

Well at least Sony think about the people and asking it, we cant say that from other manufractures

Id love to see raw support
Seeing a camera with raw vs without is a big difference

I want

LAKAME_MAN said:
There's no way in hell they'd set RAW as default. RAW is practically unusable without editing, and takes a lot of space. If they implement it it's definitely gonna be optional.
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Thank god for that!

not a need, but definitly a want

Absolutely a need. I will not buy another device which doesn't support raw capture, now that it is readily available for manufacturers to add.

I would definitely wanna see RAW support since it significantly improves the quality of pictures on Android phones with Lollipop..

Defently CameraApi2 would be useful, now I can take really good pictures with manual but with that extra features.
Sony camera will rock!
Guys, even if you would not use it, just request it as many others would use. Please help the community.

If you want Camera RAW, ask for it

Sony wants to know if you want Camera RAW
Tell them you want it: http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Software-Updates/Camera2-API/td-p/974742/highlight/false
IMO, it's not about RAW files, it's about API access to RAW so that developers have the option to do better image processing than Sony.

OR - Sony could just implement better processing on their own and we wouldn't have to worry about hunting for 3rd party apps to do what this phone should have done out of the box.

PuffDaddy_d said:
OR - Sony could just implement better processing on their own and we wouldn't have to worry about hunting for 3rd party apps to do what this phone should have done out of the box.
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The thing is, they won't. But implementing the new api doesn't take as much work as writing better image processing.
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I posted in that thread. Here's hoping they do it.

Thanks for the hint to that thread. I`m also one of those, who were very disappointed that Sony didn`t implemented the RAW capture feature. But there seems to be hope

Nexus 6P RAW Support

Since the stock camera does not support the RAW capture yet (hopefully will), which camera app could be the best right now to capture RAW image using N6P?

Camera FV-5 supports DNG, but there is some bugs that needs fixing.
Switching between P to Shutter Priorty and back breaks the app.
But when it works its amazing.

Pro shot from rise up games
Easily the best camera app period. Being able to turn off noise reduction is the biggest feature yet. No other camera app in the play store compares simply because of that.

A better camera app?

First day with this fabulous device. Came from Note 7. The only disappointment so far is the camera, especially low light. I'm wondering if it's just the app itself. I downloaded LIGHTROOM and I'm getting better results but has anyone found another camera app that works well?
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"A Better Camera" seems to take better quality pictures in low light (just testing it at my desk). It crashes on setting image size in the setting though (but not from the in app menu).
However, it's video function doesn't let you set resolution/rate and such like the built in app.

ekerbuddyeker said:
First day with this fabulous device. Came from Note 7. The only disappointment so far is the camera, especially low light. I'm wondering if it's just the app itself. I downloaded LIGHTROOM and I'm getting better results but has anyone found another camera app that works well?
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People seem to like "snap camera" app the most especially on low light. Maybe you can try this.
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Camera FV-5
The Best Camera app I use is "Camera FV-5" its only a Camera not a video recorder though, its a professional camera soo yeah

Camera Zoom fx premium

None of these seemed to make a difference for me. Mist be the hardware.
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1) As a general point, low light photography is the weak point of the Axon 7 camera
2) You can try open camera. I have had good results. It is a free open source app

One thing i found just by mistake, was if you tap on where you would like to focus in low light conditions it will turn on nightmode and give slightly better picture.

Anyone able to extract the stock camera app?

Can u use Google camera ?
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I was not impressed with Snap camera's low light performance. I actually think it's worse than the stock camera app.

Cinema fv-5 for better video
And the app called: 'a better camera' for better pictures

tupirujp said:
Can u use Google camera ?
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Yes, Google camera works great... Not any improvement in quality, but works great. Not like it did on the Nexus 6P (not able to swipe to change from camera to video, have to use swipe-out menu).
If you have the ZTE camera open, then try to open Google camera (or any other), you'll get an error the camera is in use by another app.

c7j8d9 said:
Anyone able to extract the stock camera app?
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You should be able to extract it from any of the stock system partition images -- either direct from ZTE's files or from DrakenFX TWRP backup versions.

tele_jas said:
Yes, Google camera works great... Not any improvement in quality, but works great. Not like it did on the Nexus 6P (not able to swipe to change from camera to video, have to use swipe-out menu).
If you have the ZTE camera open, then try to open Google camera (or any other), you'll get an error the camera is in use by another app.
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Oh well i had the axón 7 twise for over 2 weeks and its just too much the lack of development so I went back to the 6p got tired of waiting and waiting it's not my game
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The default camera app already has the best options for low light. It's just a trade-off between shutter speed and grain. You can use SUPER NIGHT mode or ISO100 mode in manual to get less grain but you have to hold still to avoid blur. SUPER NIGHT seems to make a composite to reduce blur though.

Any sample shots using super night mode?

Zte is not using the CameraApi2 so you won't get the same quality with a 3rd party camera app.

I've personally found that HDR works quite well in low light, sometimes making the shot look brighter than real life. The only annoying part is keeping the phone steady to avoid blur.

Freedcam
Color OS camera
I feel are the best
Using MI4W with CM13

Camera

Hey guys what's the best camera app to use with this phone?
I've seen that when recording video the auto focus doesn't work so I wanted a good app that does.

The best camera app is the one that comes on the phone. It's the only one that supports the camera's more advanced features like optical image stabilization.
Edit: it should be noted that things like autofocus are handled by the OS when using third party camera apps. Unfortunately, no third party camera app will be able to autofocus better than the stock camera can.