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[Q] OTA Root on ATT? (Or Downgrade?)

So I got my first smartphone, and being naive, I downloaded and installed the OTA update from AT&T because I wanted to be able to store my apps on my 64GB SD card instead of the limited 16gb already on my phone. A few days later, I looked into rooting, only to find out that update breaks it. (at least as far as I know).
So my question is, is there a way to root this update, or are the devs working on one? Or will they wait for 4.3 to be released? I'm not sure how this process goes, I have been jailbreaking iPods and iPads for the last 5 years, but I presume it is similar, seeing as they both gain root.
Also, is there a way to uninstall the OTA update so I can then root? I am new to all this, so any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

HeDsh0t said:
So I got my first smartphone, and being naive, I downloaded and installed the OTA update from AT&T because I wanted to be able to store my apps on my 64GB SD card instead of the limited 16gb already on my phone. A few days later, I looked into rooting, only to find out that update breaks it. (at least as far as I know).
So my question is, is there a way to root this update, or are the devs working on one? Or will they wait for 4.3 to be released? I'm not sure how this process goes, I have been jailbreaking iPods and iPads for the last 5 years, but I presume it is similar, seeing as they both gain root.
Also, is there a way to uninstall the OTA update so I can then root? I am new to all this, so any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Quick answer... You are stuck. No rollback or root for now. There are always people working on rooting and not waiting for.
4.3. Maybe someone will figure out how to restore old rom. Who knows.
All your questions have been answered in other threads.

Well a lot of people can't upgrade to MF3 so I say first thing first....what version are you on? MDL? or MF3? If you're MDL any of the rooting options should work. If you upgraded to MF3 like the previous person said you're stuck. Since you're used to iOS...think of it as upgrading to new firmware and CRAPPLE no longer signing the previous OS, and Android doesn't store your BLOBS and you can't use Tiny umbrella.

HeDsh0t said:
So I got my first smartphone, and being naive, I downloaded and installed the OTA update from AT&T because I wanted to be able to store my apps on my 64GB SD card instead of the limited 16gb already on my phone. A few days later, I looked into rooting, only to find out that update breaks it. (at least as far as I know).
So my question is, is there a way to root this update, or are the devs working on one? Or will they wait for 4.3 to be released? I'm not sure how this process goes, I have been jailbreaking iPods and iPads for the last 5 years, but I presume it is similar, seeing as they both gain root.
Also, is there a way to uninstall the OTA update so I can then root? I am new to all this, so any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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1) Confirm you are on MF3 and not MDL (settings/more/about device/last 3 letters in your build version). MDB is oldest, MDL is what you want to keep rooting, MF3 is the newest and unrootable for the time being.
2) You cannot root MF3. If you are on MDL and use Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper before updating to MF3, you might be able to preserve your root.
3) You can bet there are people trying to exploit this new build. Same as when a new version of ios comes out, you have to wait until someone jailbreaks it. We're waiting for someone to root MF3.
4) When 4.3 comes out they will try to root that one too...or hope that whatever root method we currently use, at that time, still works.
5) They used something called a QFUSE in the MF3 update that prevents us from downgrading once we're on MF3. Until (if) someone finds a way to exploit that, you're stuck on MF3.

[Q] KIT KAT on contracted Samsung S4 AT&T i337?

I have had my S4 since switching to ATT in late November and have been following the XDA forums very closely since then. It was thanks to the XDA forums that I was able to root my S4.
However, no matter how far, wide, and meticulously I look on the site, there is no mention of the existence of running KIT-KAT on the i337 S4 for AT&T, save for the Google Play Edition and the version with the octacore etc.
I know these forums are strict (and should be) about questions being asked more than once, but I am not asking when KITKAT will be released through AT&T or even Samsung because I honestly don't care. I simply want to get KitKat on my device running with relative stability. I know there are custom roms out there, but most of them were released...a month ago or so? MAYBE I'm missing something, but if anyone here is in similar shoes, I would appreciate it if you'd echo my sentiments/request to find out if it can be done and how.
Anyone who knows how I can learn more about loading ASOP onto my i337 S4, I would greatly appreciate it. If the limitation is a locked boot loader that you CANNOT get around (excluding safestrap), do let me know! I'm sure a lot of people would benefit from the answer to this question.
Otherwise I'm going to go buy the Google Play Edition of one of the Android devices that has an unlocked boot loader.
Cheers,
Justin

justintime001 said:
I have had my S4 since switching to ATT in late November and have been following the XDA forums very closely since then. It was thanks to the XDA forums that I was able to root my S4.
However, no matter how far, wide, and meticulously I look on the site, there is no mention of the existence of running KIT-KAT on the i337 S4 for AT&T, save for the Google Play Edition and the version with the octacore etc.
I know these forums are strict (and should be) about questions being asked more than once, but I am not asking when KITKAT will be released through AT&T or even Samsung because I honestly don't care. I simply want to get KitKat on my device running with relative stability. I know there are custom roms out there, but most of them were released...a month ago or so? MAYBE I'm missing something, but if anyone here is in similar shoes, I would appreciate it if you'd echo my sentiments/request to find out if it can be done and how.
Anyone who knows how I can learn more about loading ASOP onto my i337 S4, I would greatly appreciate it. If the limitation is a locked boot loader that you CANNOT get around (excluding safestrap), do let me know! I'm sure a lot of people would benefit from the answer to this question.
Otherwise I'm going to go buy the Google Play Edition of one of the Android devices that has an unlocked boot loader.
Cheers,
Justin
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What version are you currently running. Go to about phone and post your baseband version. If the 2nd to last digit is f or higher you can't get kit kat yet. If it is before f then you are free to do whatever you want., If you are rooted you can just download rom manager from the play store and flash a recovery the easy way. Then get cyanogenmod or something for your device.

failedjedi said:
What version are you currently running. Go to about phone and post your baseband version. If the 2nd to last digit is f or higher you can't get kit kat yet. If it is before f then you are free to do whatever you want., If you are rooted you can just download rom manager from the play store and flash a recovery the easy way. Then get cyanogenmod or something for your device.
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Thank you for your reply!!!
That is most unfortunate, since it is i337UCUEMK2 - even if I did some crazy stuff to go back to MF3, I'd be right at f anyway. ROM Manager and flashing a recovery the easy way seemed simple enough and I was going to do that but it ended up not working, then I tried using Goo Manager and that soft-bricked my phone and I spent hours getting it back to MK2 again. It's back to the way it was, but I still want to update to Kit-Kat.
Btw, could you tell me why it isn't possible because of my baseband? Thanks failedjedi, and anyone else that can offer useful information.
Cheers,
J

justintime001 said:
Thank you for your reply!!!
That is most unfortunate, since it is i337UCUEMK2 - even if I did some crazy stuff to go back to MF3, I'd be right at f anyway. ROM Manager and flashing a recovery the easy way seemed simple enough and I was going to do that but it ended up not working, then I tried using Goo Manager and that soft-bricked my phone and I spent hours getting it back to MK2 again. It's back to the way it was, but I still want to update to Kit-Kat.
Btw, could you tell me why it isn't possible because of my baseband? Thanks failedjedi, and anyone else that can offer useful information.
Cheers,
J
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With mf3 they locked down the bootloader. So before mf3 you were able to put a custom recovery and custom roms. Since MF3 no one has figured out how to bypass it yet. With mf3 you can use safestrap to sort of get some custom roms, but it still needs to boot the stock kernel as you can't yet use a custom kernel. As a result you are limited to only 4.2.2 Touchwiz based roms working. Now safestrap has a beta for newer versions, not 100% sure what it does and does not support yet as I'm sticking with my mf3 and a 4.2.2 jellybean rom. But the beta is new and probably still buggy.
But basically since you need the stock kernel, you are limited to only the android version your current stock version is.

Yeah as an android developer, I accept that, but am not going to permit it to remain true. This might take awhile...
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

If you are a developer there are bounties out for someone to get this working on mf3>
I don't have that issue but good luck if you try--:good:

Thanks! Didn't really know there were bounties for that - worthwhile ones anyway given that im dev apps and messing with AOSP and mainly my att s4 every chance I get.
Actually id be doing it for mk2, and if it becomes apparent that mf3 is easier to do it with ill do with that since I'd just DANGEROUSLY use Odin to go back, root, sideload titpro and block the sht out of the autoupdate. From what ive seen, the intermediary version between mf3 and mk2 might be most likely. This is all conjecture anyway. Sooner or later I will allow people to be free even with contracted or used phones.
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a few questions about tmobile bloatware

he,,
i just got a t mobile lg g2.i have noticed there are a lot of t mobile apps and other apps i will never use.if i root my phone can i uninstall the junk in my phone without installing a custom ROM?also is there a easy way to root the phone.i have a lgg2 with kitkat 4.4.2
thanks for the help

laprodigy001 said:
he,,
i just got a t mobile lg g2.i have noticed there are a lot of t mobile apps and other apps i will never use.if i root my phone can i uninstall the junk in my phone without installing a custom ROM?also is there a easy way to root the phone.i have a lgg2 with kitkat 4.4.2
thanks for the help
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Once you root, you can get rid of all the junk T-Mobile installed on our D801s... So yes, you can do that without installing a custom ROM.
On the root question on KK, I'll let some one else answer that since I still haven't upgraded (no need to since my LG G2 works much better with CloudyFlex ROM despite the 4.2.2 tag).
Cheers!

As of right now, there is no root for T-Mobile G2s running Kit Kat. Root works for other carriers but there have been reports about T-Mobile having issues. We'll just have to wait and see if someone can find a workaround for us.
You can disable most T-Mobile bloatware in the settings until root is available (I think autoprime is working on it). If not, you can downgrade to Jellybean 4.2.2 and then root. It was surprisingly easy and fast to root the Jellybean version, though. I'm no expert so I can't help you with this, but be sure to read and reread instructions if you decide to do any modifications to your phone! I learned the hard way after softbricking mine.

tofutown said:
As of right now, there is no root for T-Mobile G2s running Kit Kat. Root works for other carriers but there have been reports about T-Mobile having issues. We'll just have to wait and see if someone can find a workaround for us.
You can disable most T-Mobile bloatware in the settings until root is available (I think autoprime is working on it). If not, you can downgrade to Jellybean 4.2.2 and then root. It was surprisingly easy and fast to root the Jellybean version, though. I'm no expert so I can't help you with this, but be sure to read and reread instructions if you decide to do any modifications to your phone! I learned the hard way after softbricking mine.
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I'm on T-Mobile kit kat rooted with bloat ware deleted.... been on it for about a month
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RiverdALIEN said:
I'm on T-Mobile kit kat rooted with bloat ware deleted.... been on it for about a month
Sent from my LG-D801 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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Whoa, really? Did you root before upgrading to KK or after? I was impatient and bricked my phone by trying to flash Kit Kat and had to go through the process of unrooting and trying to flash the stock firmware several times (it was a nightmare because I'm noob and my laptop kept freezing). I didn't want to fail at flashing my device a second time, so I'm quietly waiting for the IOroot kinks to be sorted out... unless they've already been fixed?

Has there been any updates with rooting this version yet.thanks

[Q] on My girls S4

My lady has been locked up for 8 months and is due out Thursday. Her S4 is Safestrap rooted MF3 running stock rim. version (she missed having the loki bootloader by minutes n took the update). Anyway she gets out on Thursday n her phone has been in her property this whole time.
What do I need to do when she gets out? Anything I need to not do or not accept ? Of course there are a ton of Google updates going on n I know to accept those. Will at&t send the KK update to her phone or because of root it won't send for it? If she does get the KK update, by chance, do Y's lol have a root method (only reason for that question is my S4 is a VZW with lokified bootloader but I have seen issues we are having with out KK update) any help n all help is much appreciated
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FordNate said:
My lady has been locked up for 8 months and is due out Thursday. Her S4 is Safestrap rooted MF3 running stock rim. version (she missed having the loki bootloader by minutes n took the update). Anyway she gets out on Thursday n her phone has been in her property this whole time.
What do I need to do when she gets out? Anything I need to not do or not accept ? Of course there are a ton of Google updates going on n I know to accept those. Will at&t send the KK update to her phone or because of root it won't send for it? If she does get the KK update, by chance, do Y's lol have a root method (only reason for that question is my S4 is a VZW with lokified bootloader but I have seen issues we are having with out KK update) any help n all help is much appreciated
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If her phone says Custom when booting, the KitKat update will fail to finish and will not be installed.
As for whether she can root the KitKat update, she can't if she goes full stock and then updates to NC1 (I think). However since she's still on MF3 I believe she can get a rooted 4.4.2 ROM, however there's a very high chance it'll clear your data. This may be of assistance, however I'm not sure if it'll work or not so don't try it until someone who knows more than I do says it's clear to try it or not.

[Q] SM-N910T Kitkat Vs Lollipop ? , which processor? should I root?

Ok Noob here (at least in this forum) - tmobile note 4 : Not rooted (yet)
1) should I update to 5.0 OTA or stick with 4.4.4?
2) IF i move to 5.0 does anyone know where i can get original stock tmobile 4.4.4 ROM if i want to go back?
3) I figure If I OTA update to 5.0 and then root - It would be safer than rooting 4.4.4 , but really want to backup my 4.4.4 if possible? How can I do this without root?
4) I heard (rumor) that root under 5.0 is more restrictive than 4.4.4 is this right?
Lastly
Under tis forum i see 2 sun categories:
Note 4 Android Development (Exynos)
Note 4 Android Development (Snapdragon)
How can i tell which processor I have in my device?
Thank you for your patience.

1. Really its up to your preference if you don't like it you can always go back to kitkat. theirs a lot of guides how to do so.
2. yes go to sammobile or search the forums.
3. there's no way of backing up 4.4.4 without root. you can root 4.4.4 or 5.0.1
4. I haven't really heard this, But really you just try it and if not your liking then go back to kitkat.
5. you have the snapdragon since its from t mobile.
@steve_77

Simplyeduardo said:
1. Really its up to your preference if you don't like it you can always go back to kitkat. theirs a lot of guides how to do so.
2. yes go to sammobile or search the forums.
3. there's no way of backing up 4.4.4 without root. you can root 4.4.4 or 5.0.1
4. I haven't really heard this, But really you just try it and if not your liking then go back to kitkat.
5. you have the snapdragon since its from t mobile.
@steve_77
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Thanks so much! One last question - If do the OTA update to 5.x through Tmobile - do i need to worry about loosing any data or apps, apps settings, etc?
Im not rooted so cant do titanium or nandroid, but worry about things going missing after update - what should i backup ? or is it pretty seamless these days?
Sorry if this seems like a dumb question - last time i did OTA back on Eclair to Froyo it basically nuked everything.. so though id ask to make sure.

steve_77 said:
Thanks so much! One last question - If do the OTA update to 5.x through Tmobile - do i need to worry about loosing any data or apps, apps settings, etc?
Im not rooted so cant do titanium or nandroid, but worry about things going missing after update - what should i backup ? or is it pretty seamless these days?
Sorry if this seems like a dumb question - last time i did OTA back on Eclair to Froyo it basically nuked everything.. so though id ask to make sure.
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if you update through ota all your apps and settings will remain there. they just get optimized for 5.0.1. so dont worry about things going missing unless theres a app thats not compatible with loli yet.