Anyone using JVQ after using JVP, what's the fuss about much improved browser? What has improved? Sunspider, scrolling speed, unzoom to tab previews?
Edit: So you don't have to read whole thread, JVQ browser is muuuuch smoother over already quite smooth JVP.
I dont using stock browser (because have not ability for gif animation, like in Froyo version Android), but somebody here in forum was say scrolling speed is signifited improved....
Regards
The browser in JVQ is vastly improved comparing to the one in JVP:
1) The scrolling is buttery smooth and it is not interrupted in the middle.
2) There is a capability to zoom out to tab view.
3) There are more animations, for example, when you open a tab there is a new animation.
4) The rendering is improved - phonearena website is "browse-able" now, it used to lag severely with JVP
In general it looks like samsung has managed to port back the browser from SGSII to SGS
NOTE: These are true only with odex stock rom. Deodexed rom has a broken browser - it lags too much.
Hope this helps
fungun1234 said:
The browser in JVQ is vastly improved comparing to the one in JVP:
1) The scrolling is buttery smooth and it is not interrupted in the middle.
2) There is a capability to zoom out to tab view.
3) There are more animations, for example, when you open a tab there is a new animation.
4) The rendering is improved - phonearena website is "browse-able" now, it used to lag severely with JVP
In general it looks like samsung has managed to port back the browser from SGSII to SGS
NOTE: These are true only with odex stoke rom. Deodexed rom has a broken browser - it lags too much.
Hope this helps
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Yes i agree. i use stock JVQ rom. JVQ browser is better for me.
can someone upload browser apk?
I would like to try it on JVP before making a jump
Thanks
[email protected] said:
can someone upload browser apk?
I would like to try it on JVP before making a jump
Thanks
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Don't do that, you will have to reflash your device.
I tried that myself and had a bootloop.
Why doesn't it work with deodexed?
Sent from my ever changing Galaxy S via XDA-Premium...
I can confirm this. On deodexed rom the browse is useless
NOTE: These are true only with odex stock rom. Deodexed rom has a broken browser - it lags too much.
Hope this helps
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fungun1234 said:
The browser in JVQ is vastly improved comparing to the one in JVP:
1) The scrolling is buttery smooth and it is not interrupted in the middle.
2) There is a capability to zoom out to tab view.
3) There are more animations, for example, when you open a tab there is a new animation.
4) The rendering is improved - phonearena website is "browse-able" now, it used to lag severely with JVP
In general it looks like samsung has managed to port back the browser from SGSII to SGS
NOTE: These are true only with odex stock rom. Deodexed rom has a broken browser - it lags too much.
Hope this helps
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JVP is much smoother than CM7 in scrolling so I guess this is imba fast. How about sunspider scores?
Here you go.
sunspider-0.9.1 scores:
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RESULTS (means and 95% confidence intervals)
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Total: 6508.3ms +/- 2.1%
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3d: 979.1ms +/- 2.4%
cube: 379.0ms +/- 6.9%
morph: 322.6ms +/- 3.1%
raytrace: 277.5ms +/- 5.2%
access: 697.4ms +/- 6.7%
binary-trees: 30.0ms +/- 7.7%
fannkuch: 231.0ms +/- 7.9%
nbody: 343.2ms +/- 10.8%
nsieve: 93.2ms +/- 13.3%
bitops: 494.5ms +/- 13.5%
3bit-bits-in-byte: 33.4ms +/- 12.2%
bits-in-byte: 72.3ms +/- 9.9%
bitwise-and: 170.5ms +/- 25.5%
nsieve-bits: 218.3ms +/- 16.0%
controlflow: 25.3ms +/- 13.3%
recursive: 25.3ms +/- 13.3%
crypto: 428.9ms +/- 8.0%
aes: 170.9ms +/- 6.1%
md5: 131.6ms +/- 7.8%
sha1: 126.4ms +/- 18.6%
date: 927.6ms +/- 8.4%
format-tofte: 404.2ms +/- 17.4%
format-xparb: 523.4ms +/- 4.1%
math: 638.7ms +/- 8.1%
cordic: 276.4ms +/- 20.5%
partial-sums: 266.6ms +/- 2.7%
spectral-norm: 95.7ms +/- 6.3%
regexp: 144.5ms +/- 17.1%
dna: 144.5ms +/- 17.1%
string: 2172.3ms +/- 1.5%
base64: 210.6ms +/- 3.4%
fasta: 358.5ms +/- 2.0%
tagcloud: 356.4ms +/- 2.7%
unpack-code: 939.3ms +/- 2.9%
validate-input: 307.5ms +/- 1.5%
Can't understand why such a low scores compared to cm7. I guess something with JIT... As long as it performs smooth, I don't care.
So I'm currently on JVP from RomKitchen, I have no idea about this odexed/deodexed stuff. I just want to know if I can use the Browser from JVQ on my current setup, like just copy the APK over or something, because my current browser is quite laggy and glitchy to use. Thanks!
dylandylan1 said:
So I'm currently on JVP from RomKitchen, I have no idea about this odexed/deodexed stuff. I just want to know if I can use the Browser from JVQ on my current setup, like just copy the APK over or something, because my current browser is quite laggy and glitchy to use. Thanks!
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No, you can't use apk from JVQ on JVP. At the moment, the only way to improved browser is to use stock odexed JVQ (deodexed JVQ breaks browser).
Well the biggest difference between JVP's and JVQ's browser is:
JVP: CRAP!
JVQ: AMAZING and smooth!
lol
I normally only use deodexed roms mainly they are a tad faster and alot of themes are for deodex only. But after using stock odex JVQ for now im sticking to it till the deodex lag is fixed. Browser is very smooth good improvement from JVP.
Even 720p video works in this new browser, wow
Even Vimeo in HD (flash) works flawless This GPU is finally fairly pushed to work
The new JVQ browser is as fluent as the iPhone 4 browser, if not better.
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The new JVQ browser is as fluent as the iPhone 4 browser, if not better.
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Yep. Thanks Samsung, great job on previous flagship model. HTC see and learn
Wow, browser on JVQ really is amazing!
So much improved... My SGS soon will be ideal
I found out the performance of HTML5 is quite impressive on SGSIII stock browser... not that I use it frequently or that HTML5 is that prevalent even now.. I am happy my flash is still supported across all browsers.
Dolphin does beat it (469) but at a score of 435 it beats Opera12.01 (406) and Chrome as well (390)..
anyone a idea why samsung s3 i9305 have problems playing html5 videos? When i launch a video i can't see any picture, only sound is played. Also tried another html5 player app, but same problem.
Rom: cyanogenmod 10.2
(i can't post to the special thread "cyaogenmod" becaus auf newbie restrictions)
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I found out the performance of HTML5 is quite impressive on SGSIII stock browser... not that I use it frequently or that HTML5 is that prevalent even now.. I am happy my flash is still supported across all browsers.
Dolphin does beat it (469) but at a score of 435 it beats Opera12.01 (406) and Chrome as well (390)..
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You mention a couple of numbers, but what do they mean (e.g. loading time ) and how did you test the performance?
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16th November 2012
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You mention a couple of numbers, but what do they mean (e.g. loading time ) and how did you test the performance?
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The numbers I mentioned are from www.html5test.com score.
Now I am on Galaxy Note II and its stock browser does better than chrome, dolphin and Opera.
i got 434 with default browser and 419 with dolphin
Pardus rom Android 4.1.2
the html5test is just a stadard compliance test
it has nothing to do with performance and smoothness
Hello All
In post #19 I have an update with tests of Beta versions of most popular browsers.
I've been reading yesterday a browser comparison between Chrome, Firefox, IE and Opera on both Windows and Linux platforms and I've decided to do something similar for Galaxy Note 2.
Now for some starting info:
Rom - Phoenix v13
Kernel - Perseus 36.3
OC - yes, 1.8Ghz, GPU untouched, a bit of undervolt also.
The system is fairly pure, default speedups as found in Phoenix installed. Rom is ODEXED
Not much apps installed.
Contenders: all currently downloaded from Playstore
- Samsung Browser
- Chrome 28.0.1500
- Firefox 22.0
- Opera 15.0.1162
- Maxthon 4.0.6.2000 B2844
They were all put under the following tests:
- HTML5 Test - Link
- HTML5 Benchmark - Link - Basically a 2D game benchmark.
- Octane - Link
- Browsermark 2.0 - Link
- Mazesolver (Microsoft) - Link
- Lawnmark (Microsoft) - Link
There is a story about that benchmark involving cheating as stated here but it does not affect my comparison.
- Peacekeeper - Link
- Sunspider 1.0 - Link
- V8 Benchmark (succeeded by Octane but still valid and does offer different results) - Link
- Dromaeo - Link - be carefull, it takes about 20 minutes or more to complete.
So off to results:
...........XXXXX................Stock browser.....Chrome (+%).........Firefox (+%).........Opera (+%)..........Maxthon (+%)......Dolphin (+%)........UC (+%)
HTML 5 Test.................434.....................410 (94%).............422 (97%).............428 (98.6%).........419 (96.5%).......419 (96%).............404 (93%)..........more is better
HTML Benchmark..........43......................1911 (4400%)........2731 (6351%).......2043 (4751%)......77 (179%).........107 (248%)............113 (263%)........more is better
Octane..........................2402...................2900 (120%)..........2622 (109%).........2783 (116%).......2375 (99%)........2451 (102%)..........2441 (101.6%).....more is better
Browsemark 2.0............2525...................2427 (96%)............2306 (91%)...........2897 (115%).......2123 (84%)........1956 (77%)............1963 (78%)..........more is better
Mazesolver (20)............1.9......................4.9 (257%)..............6 (315%)..............6.3 (331%)..........1.6 (84%)...........2 (105%).................1.9 (100%)........less is better
Mazesolver (30)............9.6......................20 (208%)..............91 (948%)............25 (260%)...........4.9 (51%)...........5,6 (58%).................5,9 (61%)..........less is better
Mazesolver (40)............30.......................101 (336%)............112 (373%)..........109 (363%).........28 (93%)............29 (97%)..................31 (103%)........less is better
Lawnmark.....................538......................873 (162%)............1071 (199%)........679 (126%).........515 (96%)...........not_finished *2............not_finished *3..........less is better
Peacekeeper ...............873......................891 (102%)............605 (69%) *1........891 (102%).........927 (106%).........929 (106%)............857 (98%)..........more is better
Sunspider.....................1041....................812 (78%)..............863 (83%)............806 (77%)...........1160 (111%)........1080 (103.7%).......1050 (101%)........less is better
V8 Benchmark..............2690....................3101 (115%)..........2677 (99.5%).......3191 (119%)........2546 (94.6%)......2597 (96%)............2553 (95%)..........more is better
Dromaeo.......................167.15.................179.92 (107.6%)....146.42 (87.6%)....186.03 (111%).....168.6 (100.8%)...161.94 (97%).........164,44 (98%)..........more is better
*1 - this result is a strange one since Firefox is the only browser that allowed almost all videos to play, there were some problems with buffering so the videos skipped some but they worked, not one other browser did. So I don't understand why the score is so low, maybe other parts were bad.
*2 and *3 - in both cases browsers simply closed without any error sometime after starting benchmark (less than 3 minutes), consecutive tries resulted in closing few seconds after starting benchmark. Both browsers had to be fully restarted (as in killed in apps manager or by phone restart)
HTML5 test is only a measure of how well browsers conform to HTML standard, somewhat like old ACID3 test.
Now, HTML5 Benchmark on stock and Maxthon were a slideshow, <2 fps and it took more than 30 minutes to complete. I have no idea why as it is a simple 2D platform game and other browsers run quite well even up to 60 fps in case of Firefox.
Mazesolver had to be run more than 10 times for every settings and median calculated because tests were prone to big variations. As such I would mark that test as unreliable. Lawnmark, despite being unfairly skewed for IE 10/11 is an equal oportunity test for other browsers, so the results "stay"
To compare browsers I will count Octane, Browsermark, Peacekeeper, Sunspider, V8 and Dromaeo benchmarks.
Results:
Chrome is on average 10,43% faster than Stock Browser
Firefox is on average 4.48% slower than Stock Browser
Opera is on average 14,33% faster than Stock Browser
Maxthon is on average 4.43% slower than Stock Browser
Dolphin is on average 4.23% slower than Stock Browser
UC Browser is on average 5.06% slower than Stock Browser
And the Winner is ....... Opera
Now all those results should also be counted against power consumption and here is where things change a lot. I started those test with full battery and all the browsers did the same amount of work actually doing those tests. The problem is that while Chrome, Stock, Maxthon and Firefox required roughly the same amount of power, Opera used more than twice that. I'm attaching screenshots of those results.
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On other topic, I think almost 6 hours of screen on time with almost all that time CPU was working full tilt and screen was @100% is a great result. There were only short times when I left the phone to cool off, mostly with screen on but not working hard
Any comments or questions, just ask
Update for Naked Browser - the scores were in order: 2470 (103%), 2019 (80%), 824 (94%), 1087 (104.5%), 2729 (101.4%) and 168.69 (101%)
Total score for it: Naked Browser is on average 4.18% slower than Stock Browser
Next Boat Browser - the scores were in order: 2483 (103%), 2109 (83%), 850 (97%), 909 (87%), 2479 (92%), 165.98 (99%)
Total score for it: Boat Browser is on average 2.16% slower than Stock Browser
ONE Browser - the scores were in order: 2342 (97.5%), 2097 (83%), 680 (78%),1801 (173%), 1280 (47.5%), 166.62 (99.7%)
Total score for it: ONE Browser is on average 27.88% slower than Stock Browser
From all those scores of different browsers it's apparent that some of the use a common rendering engine (Firefox, Maxthon, Dolphin, UC and Naked and probably Boat too) because their results are within 1% of each other while Samsung, Opera and Chrome are much different. So between those above you can choose based on features set that they have because performance is about equal.
If you are interested in modern games based on HTML5 code, Firefox and One browsers are the way to go with Chrome and Opera about 30% slower. HTML5 Benchmark which I did not include in final score (but tested all browsers with) shows great disparity between browsers.
The scores:
Stock : 43 points
Chrome : 1911 points
Firefox : 2622 points
Opera : 2043 points
Maxthon : 77 points
Dolphin : 107 points
Naked : 96 points
UC : 113 points
Boat : 78 points
ONE : 3041 points
I do not understand how it's possible to get a 30 times difference in modern times in a fairly important category but there you have it. I hope it's not similar to Microsoft's Lawnmark benchmark that before every iteration followed (as is standard for some reason) 4ms pause while IE 10 and 11 allowed for "no pause" policy. The results - IE 10/11 finished in 15 seconds, other browsers took upwards of 10 minutes. The funny thing is, some Chrome addicts took the benchmark code and set a level playing field by removing the wait time for every browser, and lo and behold, IE was 2 times slower than Firefox and 3 times slower than Opera with Chrome somewhere in the middle.
It gives some thoughts as in both cases (HTML5 benchmark and Lawnmark) after benchmark run, the phone / cpu is completely cool. I do not at the moment have any monitoring app installed, but CoolTool would be easy to use to verify that.
In light of recent "strange" benchmark results of newer Intel chips that happend to be Intel compiler using a flaw in Antutu benchmark code all benchmark results can be suspected.
You can argue that compiler optimisations are the lifeblood of fast computing, but when you optimize code by hand to get best score in a benchmark, it's not clean fight. Because no other app is going to have the same optimizations so the benchmark result is misleading to the real life performance of the hardware. All that on top of usefullness/uselessness of benchmarks in the whole
And yet non of these browsers run as smoothly as the stock samsung browser when scrolling and zooming on any web page...
Where is dolphin?
True, Stock is smooth as butter, but there are no benchmarks that test smoothness so that conclusion is up to the user. I may test dolphin but there will be no power use tests for it because I would not be able to get comparable data.
Any other requests for browsers?
Hell Guardian said:
Where is dolphin?
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2nd Dolphin and Naked Browser.
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I prefer the stock browser regardless of the statistics.
Nice comparison! I personally switch between Firefox and 'UC Browser'.
I find UC Browser really good for full screen/desktop content, but some websites don't display correctly.
I think I'm leaning towards boat - gestures are really helpful on Note 2 than it is on other phones. The only thing I miss is inverted browsing. There's a night mode which is in many ways better than inverted browsing, but in many sites it's not useable compared to the proper inverted browsing.
Also obviously much better control over flash plugins and everything. Seriously, give it a go.
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2nd Dolphin and Naked Browser.
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Can't test naked browser as it's not available for download in Poland (I mean free version). Paid is available but I won't buy it just to test it. (Or you can share .apk)
Dolphin is allready tested, I will update results later.
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Naked browser is free on xda I think or The Dev website
Nice benchmarks!
I'd like to see Boat too.
Have been using it for some time and I really like it. It feels both fast and smooth!
Browser benchmarks give points for data preloading, using proxies, and other items like ability to load an HTML5 video placeholder.
Benchmarks do not evaluate browser integrity.
Naked Browser does not preload data, send your data through a proxy, or use resources on things like HTML5 video placeholders.
--Naked Browser developer
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Newer versions of Stock Browser (ICS+) preload web site data by default.
Naked Browser does not preload data. [As developer of Naked Browser I have scoured multiple versions of Stock Browser source code.]
The greater issue is Android web browser integrity. It turns out that even Firefox/Opera/Chrome are suspect.
Spying not only violates privacy but wastes battery, bandwidth, and CPU.
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I agree, I also do not like to waste bandwidth and battery. On the other hand I do like to quickly open subpages..... in the end I will go with saving money For now If I may ask, on what code is Your browser based (mostly?) and is there any hope of porting this great speed in HTML5 execution (like in Firefox or One browsers) ?
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I agree, I also do not like to waste bandwidth and battery. On the other hand I do like to quickly open subpages..... in the end I will go with saving money For now If I may ask, on what code is Your browser based (mostly?) and is there any hope of porting this great speed in HTML5 execution (like in Firefox or Safari - One browsers) ?
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I wrote it from scratch but looked at stock, Zirco, Firefox, and all available code. It uses WebView on your device so HTML5 depends on how much capability Google WebView has on your device.
Almost every Android web browser including mainstream ones are spyware. This is why I made Naked Browser. Here is the XDA thread for it if you want to talk more about it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1929663
Next to stock the only browser comes close to it for smoothness is Mozilla. But wish it had an exit option and full screen
Tried them all. Naked is alright, but the UI is awkward!
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Next to stock the only browser comes close to it for smoothness is Mozilla. But wish it had an exit option and full screen
Tried them all. Naked is alright, but the UI is awkward!
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I'm testing now Beta versions of Mozilla, Opera, Chrome and Dolphin. Results will follow maybe tomorrow but it's apparent the differences are sometimes "game changing"
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I'm testing now Beta versions of Mozilla, Opera, Chrome and Dolphin. Results will follow maybe tomorrow but it's apparent the differences are sometimes "game changing"
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Don't forget to enable chrome://flags features in chrome beta browser.
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Don't forget to enable chrome://flags features in chrome beta browser.
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Which futures should I enable? I never been in that happy chrommy place
OK, here be the Beta versions of Main Android Browsers benchmarks:
...........XXXXX..............Chrome standard(+%).....Chrome beta (+%)....Chrome beta exp. (+%)........Opera beta (+%).......Dolphin beta.(+%) .Firefox beta (+%)
HTML 5 Test.................410 (94%).....................429 (99%).................444 (102%).........................428 (99%)..................482 (111%) ...........426 (98%) ..........more is better
HTML5 Benchmark.......1911 .............................2462.........................2723....................................2248..........................3170.......................2674...................more is better
Octane..........................2900 (120%).................3040 (127%).............3064 (128%).......................2923 (122%)..............2304 (96%) ...........2893 (120%).......more is better
Browsemark 2.0............2427 (96%)...................2347 (93%)...............2694 (107%).......................2934 (116%)..............2659 (105%)..........2623 (104%).......more is better
Peacekeeper ...............891 (102%)...................881 (101%)...............872 (100%)..........................918 (105%)................Failed....................636 (73%)...........more is better
Sunspider.....................812 (78%).....................805 (77%).................780 (75%)............................790 (76%)..................935 (90%).............820 (79%)............less is better
V8 Benchmark..............310 1 (115%)................3119 (116%).............3255 (121%)........................3219 (120%)..............2734 (102%).........3114 (116%)........more is better
Dromaeo.......................179.92 (107.6%)...........179.81 (107.6%)......181.02 (108.3%)...................184.4 (110.3%)..........151.31 (90%)........142.92 (85%).......more is better
Some thoughts are neccessary here:
1. I am no fan of Firefox, but in both Browsermark and Peacekeeper benchmarks it was the only benchmark to actually display most of the tests correctly as in playing videos, displaying all 3D content or correctly resizing webpages during tests.
2. There is sometimes large difference in speed when requesting desktop versions of webpage ns mobile (even if on the first glance they look the same) and it can affect benchmark results. For example HTML5 benchmark on some browsers takes 1/2 screen, on others is resized to fit and then on others don't even fit the screen. I tried to keep things equal by manually resizing the "game window" to fit the screen but I do not know the impact of manual resize on the score. The other thing is benchmarks in portrait and landscape mode again differ, sometimes by 5-10%, as such all results are from benchmarks run in portrait mode.
3. Dromaeo benchmark is "made by Mozilla" and curiously it shows the worst scores on Firefox (both mobile and desktop versions as tested on my laptop PC). Results are displayed in "runs/s" so it should read that "the higher the better", my PC scores over 450 in Firefox and over 600 in Chrome so it should be ok. Still, why does Firefox score so low, when in other Java Script benchmarks it is one of the fastest, I have no idea.
To compare browsers I will count Octane, Browsermark, Peacekeeper, Sunspider, V8 and Dromaeo benchmarks.
Chrome is on average 10,43% faster than Stock Browser
Chrome beta is on average 11.27% faster than Stock Browser
Chrome beta with experimental options turned on is on average 14,88% faster than Stock Browser
Opera beta is on average 16.21% faster than Stock Browser
Dolphin beta is on average 0.5% faster than Stock Browser
Firefox beta is on average 3.17% faster than Stock Browser
Personally on my Note 2 I would leave 3 browsers - Stock (smooooth), Opera (faaaast) and Firefox (compatible!!), although I would miss great sync options offered by Chrome. Naked browser, while a great effort, has to be worked on some more to win, either of compatibility, interface or speed, because for now the only thing that speaks for it is that it does not spy on us (which I can not test anyway )
And the winner is........... still Opera but by much smaller margin
Excellent, thanks for testing them out for us.