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Lcd density

Anyone messed around with lcd density yet? I used to have my old galaxy on around 215
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Since many of us dont have the phone yet, you could imagine that would be tough
Why dont you give it a shot though. btw i think 200 will be amazing, since the screen 4.3, but i dont know how the ui will hold up. I remember on the sgs1, some of the apps, ie music, etc, looked odd since it didnt fit properly.

I realised we need root first but its not far off lol
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Using 200 at the moment, text quite small though.

Im using 225 now, the auto rotation button on the pull down was misaligned and it annoyed me lol
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Big thing for me this. I like 190dpi.
I presume 'LCDDensity for Root' by Elviss Kustans, can change the screen density until you reboot. But without root 'LCD Density Changer' by Beansoft won't be able to change it permanently.
I'm looking forward to full CF root (I'm looking forward to getting my phone first )

Works with LCD Density Changer mate, the root is fine.
dont you find text a bit small on 190? lol

and how does it look on a smaller density? are all icons etc ok? because on my ex-dhd with sense 2.1 it looked pretty strange

Guitarfreak26 said:
Works with LCD Density Changer mate, the root is fine.
dont you find text a bit small on 190? lol
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I use 167 on my hd2, and it is perfect, more is too big.

Shame it messes up the samsung widget bar on the notification screen the ones with two words have the line through them

Yeah, thats the problem with lower density's on manufacturer skins. on a stock build like nexus s, lower densities look crazy good. some apps have problems though. I think maybe in the future once custom roms start getting made, maybe the chefs can change the framework so things dont look misaligned.

Ibasket still looks awful on 225... i got round the dialer by using go dialer...

Just rooted and installed LCD Density Changer and when I set it to anything other than the default my wifi won't connect unless I forget it and re-add the password.
Has anyone else experienced this?

after rooting, action (1) installed ADW, action (2)dropped my res to 200 with LCD changer, if I wanted my phone to look like an IPHONE I would have bought one

Disrespective said:
Just rooted and installed LCD Density Changer and when I set it to anything other than the default my wifi won't connect unless I forget it and re-add the password.
Has anyone else experienced this?
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Figured this one out. When the phone does a soft reset (I think that's what it's called, one where it reboots from the screen animation only) it won't reconnect the wifi until it's toggled on and off. Setting the screen density as the default so the device fully restarts with this density set each time seems to fix this issue.

Rooted and now running at 196dpi. Its so much better than 240dpi.
I was thinking to myself that I was getting used to the stock dpi, then I rooted and realised how wrong I was lol!
Only problems are the drop down toggle menu and the dialer, which have already been, mentioned.
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i got round the dialer by using go dialer...
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Do you mean Go Contacts?

I can confirm Go Dialler (download Go Contacts from Market) works a treat

Tablet Mode UI?

Has anyone got this working or have any insight to what to try? I tried playing around with DPI settings with "App Settings" xposed module, and also Xposed Tablet Mode module.
I always wanted tablet mode on my Note 2 thread that is over a year old here but could never get it figured out.
Just adding the navigation bar/soft keys at the bottom(with simple build.prop edit) isn't as good because you can't see the time and notifications at the bottom to effectively always disable your top status bar all of the time.
Your input is much appreciated since this is a main mod that I always pursue!

lmike6453 said:
Has anyone got this working or have any insight to what to try? I tried playing around with DPI settings with "App Settings" xposed module, and also Xposed Tablet Mode module.
I always wanted tablet mode on my Note 2 thread that is over a year old here but could never get it figured out.
Just adding the navigation bar/soft keys at the bottom(with simple build.prop edit) isn't as good because you can't see the time and notifications at the bottom to effectively always disable your top status bar all of the time.
Your input is much appreciated since this is a main mod that I always pursue!
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im not an expert but i used the ui switcher app by xperiacle on my note 2 it might not work on note 3 but its worth a shot if you really want tablet ui it might require some dpi changing after you set it up though

kalkat579 said:
im not an expert but i used the ui switcher app by xperiacle on my note 2 it might not work on note 3 but its worth a shot if you really want tablet ui it might require some dpi changing after you set it up though
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If anyone gets this working successfully I'd also like to know. Personally, smaller dpi/tablet ui is the final peice of making the Note 3 perfect (outside of an unlocked BL + recovery).
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If you lower the ro.sf.lcd_density value in /system/build.prop it will go into tablet mode. I'm not sure what the threshold is, but you could just keep lowering it until it works. I'm not sure if there is a "switch" that you can flip to go into tablet mode without lowering it.

even if u go tablet mode, it will be tooo small for note.
what u want is "Phablet" like what the paranoid custom rom do, but I doubt they support note 3 atm.

sqjzb said:
even if u go tablet mode, it will be tooo small for note.
what u want is "Phablet" like what the paranoid custom rom do, but I doubt they support note 3 atm.
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I ran the greatest rom known to man, Trans-Nebula, on the Note 2. There were bsolutely zero problems running at 160 dpi, for myself and many others.
Such an unbelievably clean/smooth look. And it was 100% tablet ui, not phablet.
So it can be done. I'm just not smart enough to figure it out lol. At least without potentially breaking things, which without the benefit of a nandroid, trial and error can be risky.
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Actually I too was a nebula rom follower and if you look Nate explained why there would be no tablet roms in 4.3. Google took the ui out of 4.3. It does not exist. Even tablets released with 4.3 have the stock phone style ui, buttons across the bottom and drop down toggles.
It really sucks because I loved that setup. My workaround had been tablet noise on apex launcher and a transparent and hidden status bar. I also run at 320 DPI - just edit the build.prop file. The status bar is much smaller but Most apps are great with this. some do have to be changed back to 480.

armus said:
Actually I too was a nebula rom follower and if you look Nate explained why there would be no tablet roms in 4.3. Google took the ui out of 4.3. It does not exist. Even tablets released with 4.3 have the stock phone style ui, buttons across the bottom and drop down toggles.
It really sucks because I loved that setup. My workaround had been tablet noise on apex launcher and a transparent and hidden status bar. I also run at 320 DPI - just edit the build.prop file. The status bar is much smaller but Most apps are great with this. some do have to be changed back to 480.
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I can live with the status bar. My biggest thing is getting that dpi down. Everything is just way too big and bloated...I'm getting used to it now but there's nothing better than the crisp, compact look of 160 dpi on this magnificent screen.
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kalkat579 said:
im not an expert but i used the ui switcher app by xperiacle on my note 2 it might not work on note 3 but its worth a shot if you really want tablet ui it might require some dpi changing after you set it up though
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Thanks for mentioning. Doesn't seem to work with the Note 3 yet but I am subscribed!
gerg004 said:
If anyone gets this working successfully I'd also like to know. Personally, smaller dpi/tablet ui is the final peice of making the Note 3 perfect (outside of an unlocked BL + recovery).
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If you lower the ro.sf.lcd_density value in /system/build.prop it will go into tablet mode. I'm not sure what the threshold is, but you could just keep lowering it until it works. I'm not sure if there is a "switch" that you can flip to go into tablet mode without lowering it.
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Lowering the DPI alone doesn't do the trick unfortunately
sqjzb said:
even if u go tablet mode, it will be tooo small for note.
what u want is "Phablet" like what the paranoid custom rom do, but I doubt they support note 3 atm.
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Not true. Check out the Note 1 in tablet mode at 213 DPI rather than 160-177 DPI and it was amazing! I know that the difference in Android versions(we're now hoping for this on 4.3) probably makes a difference.

gerg004 said:
I can live with the status bar. My biggest thing is getting that dpi down. Everything is just way too big and bloated...I'm getting used to it now but there's nothing better than the crisp, compact look of 160 dpi on this magnificent screen.
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So just change the build.prop so you get 160 DPI. It will be very small I can assure you. The mathematical equivalent to 160 on the N2 is 240 on the N3

armus said:
So just change the build.prop so you get 160 DPI. It will be very small I can assure you. The mathematical equivalent to 160 on the N2 is 240 on the N3
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I did just that. Didn't realize it was that easy. Also didn't realize the dpi changed like that, so yes, 160 is waaaay too small.
@BotsOne learned me about the build.prop
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Yeah I wish the DPI was a little smaller for some apps. Maybe 10-15% smaller would be nice.

Gvaz said:
Yeah I wish the DPI was a little smaller for some apps. Maybe 10-15% smaller would be nice.
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gerg004 said:
I did just that. Didn't realize it was that easy. Also didn't realize the dpi changed like that, so yes, 160 is waaaay too small.
@BotsOne learned me about the build.prop
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FYI, if you don't already know, you can install Xposed Framework (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401), and there's a module in there called "App Settings" that lets you easily change DPI per-app. Obviously if you want everything shrunk down it's faster to do build.prop changes, but if you want certain apps overridden from that, App Settings lets you do that. I found it useful for browser, sms, system, and a few others.

mynameismolotov said:
FYI, if you don't already know, you can install Xposed Framework (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401), and there's a module in there called "App Settings" that lets you easily change DPI per-app. Obviously if you want everything shrunk down it's faster to do build.prop changes, but if you want certain apps overridden from that, App Settings lets you do that. I found it useful for browser, sms, system, and a few others.
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Actually I find it great to run the system (build.prop) at 320. This makes everything about 25% smaller. But not every app will run this way perfectly. Usually Samsung apps. So for that, yes install the Xposed mod and change the individual app DPI back to 480. I have had to do this on only about four apps so far.

armus said:
Actually I find it great to run the system (build.prop) at 320. This makes everything about 25% smaller. But not every app will run this way perfectly. Usually Samsung apps. So for that, yes install the Xposed mod and change the individual app DPI back to 480. I have had to do this on only about four apps so far.
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I got mine running at 380 but how do I get the home screen position indicators to move down they are about half way up the screen.

So i was thinking...if tablet mode is non existant in 4.3, is there some way to mash it up to be similar?
Soft keys can be enabled, but they just lack the static clock, notification icons, and a tappable zone to expand the notification drawer.
I sifted through apps on the Play Store and couldn't think of a way to put it together, any suggestions? Maybe combine some widgets with overlays app?

Was anyone able to get Phab7 working? It's an Xposed MOD to get TabletUI to kick in with scaling options but I can't get it to work, here's the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2545080
Definitely seems like it is possible

Hyperdrive's Navbar is awesome that it works...now trying to figure out how to combine the bars for Tablet UI or some kind of workaround since Phab7 is still causing SystemUI crashes...

mynameismolotov said:
FYI, if you don't already know, you can install Xposed Framework (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401), and there's a module in there called "App Settings" that lets you easily change DPI per-app. Obviously if you want everything shrunk down it's faster to do build.prop changes, but if you want certain apps overridden from that, App Settings lets you do that. I found it useful for browser, sms, system, and a few others.
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I second using App Settings for Xposed. It works awesome. Just make the DPI 320 or lower (or so).

mistertek said:
I second using App Settings for Xposed. It works awesome. Just make the DPI 320 or lower (or so).
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I tried setting DPI at different levels including 360, 320, 260, 240, 230, 200, 160, and 177 lol. I also tried with 800x1280 res and 1000x1600 screen(dp)
I also added qemu.hw.mainkeys=0 to my build.prop while testing and left it in there

[Q] Changing Stock Rom Screen density

Hi all,
My new phone did not survive a single day without (towel-)root. So after getting root, I was thinking about changing DPI.
default in /system/build.prop is 480. I changed it to 360 and 420, both seems fine for the GS5. As a scale referenced I used values from http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/info-official-galaxy-nexus-lcd-density-t1392089 - my Galaxy Nexus is running at 246 just fine.
But sadly, the stock lock screen is now shifted left. Any idea how I can replace the stock lock screen with another fingerprint-ready lock screen? A lock screen with 4x4 pattern would also do.
Thanks in advance.
PS: If I have time, I will make a thread similar to the linked above.

Is the camera workin properly on 360 and 420? thanks and the phone keypad?

I may be wrong but as far as i know you have to edit SystemUI for the lockscreen to look correct, or you can use app settings from xposed to change SystemUI back to 480 but that changes more than the lockscreen. As for camera and keypad, those need to be changed back to 480 in app settings, i wouldnt say its required but its not going to work very well on anything but stock dpi, i personally run 320.
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[Q] Changed DPI resulting in a black bar across the bottom of the Sview cover window

So I just bought my brand new Note 4 (SM-N910W8) and of course the first thing I did was root it and install xposed framework. Everything works fine, I always change the DPI on my Note phones because I like to make use of the extra screen real estate. This worked fine as well, that is until I installed my Sview (S View cover) on it.
The sview window appears fine in the new DPI but across the bottom portion there is a black bar (the screen is off on the bottom third of the window).
I tried using the Xposed app settings mod to change the sview portion of the UI back to 640 DPI (the native resolution), but this didn't work!
has anyone else experienced this on the Note 4? any suggestions to make it work while having the rest of the phone in 480 DPI mode?
Helllpppp

Can you post a picture of what's exactly happening?

c_est_la_vie said:
So I just bought my brand new Note 4 (SM-N910W8) and of course the first thing I did was root it and install xposed framework. Everything works fine, I always change the DPI on my Note phones because I like to make use of the extra screen real estate. This worked fine as well, that is until I installed my Sview (S View cover) on it.
The sview window appears fine in the new DPI but across the bottom portion there is a black bar (the screen is off on the bottom third of the window).
I tried using the Xposed app settings mod to change the sview portion of the UI back to 640 DPI (the native resolution), but this didn't work!
has anyone else experienced this on the Note 4? any suggestions to make it work while having the rest of the phone in 480 DPI mode?
Helllpppp
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I'm about to do the same
What new setting did you put for the dpi?

This seems to be the same problem with the lock screen and dpi settings. Unfortunately it seems like the dpi settings are baked into the system ui and cannot be modified unless dpi is changed for everything. If been there. Good luck

ravni said:
I'm about to do the same
What new setting did you put for the dpi?
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I edited the build.prop to have a DPI of 480 instead of 640 (the native DPI).

It's the same thing that happens when you make the same change to the DPI on Note 3 with S-View covers as well.

I am still trying to figure a way to fix this, has anyone found anything new?

The Picture 1 shows what's happening to the Sviewcover. Picture 2 shows me tricking the phone into believing that the Cover is closed (by using a magnet).
I used Xposed App Settings to set the system DPI to 480 (from 640 stock). I set the Sviewcover.apk to 640 as well so the Sviewcover is not misaligned to the left side.
BUT here is the problem, there is a Black bar at the bottom half of the Sviewcover which renders it useless and ugly. The ONLY way I have found to fix this is NOT to alter the DPI for "Android System" and leaving it stock. That way the Sviewcover would show up perfectly without the black bars.
But that defeats the purpose of altering the DPI first place. Why can't samsung allow two zoom levels for user to choose so we can either choose big icons or more screen spaces?

there is a semi solution for this
usually people use rom toolbox to change the entire dpi.
first you must return the dpi to the normal 640 in rom toolbox
then in app settings Xposed change com.android.systemui dpi to 480
and then go to Android System (Android) and change the dpi back to 640
don't forget each time you must turn on the app setting and save after the change
this might effect some of the apps and show it in normal size but it will fix your problem
plus you can change any app's dpi to 480 from app settings later and make it small again.

c_est_la_vie said:
So I just bought my brand new Note 4 (SM-N910W8) and of course the first thing I did was root it and install xposed framework. Everything works fine, I always change the DPI on my Note phones because I like to make use of the extra screen real estate. This worked fine as well, that is until I installed my Sview (S View cover) on it.
The sview window appears fine in the new DPI but across the bottom portion there is a black bar (the screen is off on the bottom third of the window).
I tried using the Xposed app settings mod to change the sview portion of the UI back to 640 DPI (the native resolution), but this didn't work!
has anyone else experienced this on the Note 4? any suggestions to make it work while having the rest of the phone in 480 DPI mode?
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In app settings, as well as setting the DPI to 640 you also have to tick the box "apply res to widgets" If you don't, the widgets still render at the system DPI. You have to apply the 640 DPI to the com.android.keyguard (I think that's what it's called it's got keyguard in the name).

Yup, Batfink is right. I forgot about the apply to widget setting, bur when I finally applied it everything was good.

omid_freesky said:
there is a semi solution for this
usually people use rom toolbox to change the entire dpi.
first you must return the dpi to the normal 640 in rom toolbox
then in app settings Xposed change com.android.systemui dpi to 480
and then go to Android System (Android) and change the dpi back to 640
don't forget each time you must turn on the app setting and save after the change
this might effect some of the apps and show it in normal size but it will fix your problem
plus you can change any app's dpi to 480 from app settings later and make it small again.
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This will make the main UI at 640DPI which defeats the purpose of changing the DPI first place.
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Applethrow said:
Yup, Batfink is right. I forgot about the apply to widget setting, bur when I finally applied it everything was good.
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I checked "apply to widgets" for both Keyguard and Sviewcover but the Black bar is still present.

When I come to think of it, I only changed dpi for the system.ui process. Then set keyguard, camera, contacts etc to 640. Didn't touch Android System.

Applethrow said:
When I come to think of it, I only changed dpi for the system.ui process. Then set keyguard, camera, contacts etc to 640. Didn't touch Android System.
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This is a semi-fix as you would have to alter the DPI for EVERY app to render at 480DPI but I guess this is the ONLY method at the moment :crying:

Yes, you are absolutely right. Just tried it and s-view window got a black bottom bar. Maybe I'll have switch to my wallet flip cover lol

How to change the DPI (no root)

I'm not sure how widely known this is, but it's possible to change the DPI of your new phone if (like me) you find that everything is too big. It's super easy too.
1. Go to About Phone > Software Info and tap the Build number 7ish times to unlock the developer options menu.
2. Back out to settings, enter the Developer options menu now at the bottom of the list.
3. Scroll down until you find the Minimum width setting in the Drawing section about 3/4 of the way down. It's set to 411dp by default on the S8+.
4. Change it to whatever you prefer! Higher number = everything gets smaller, Lower number = everything gets bigger.
Enjoy your extra space!

Awesome.. one problem.. keyboard looks wierd after changing width

If the keyboard looks weird.. Go up on DPI because its breaking up the design.
Im at 460 on highest resolution. And its not breaking that.

Iminzil said:
If the keyboard looks weird.. Go up on DPI because its breaking up the design.
Im at 460 on highest resolution. And its not breaking that.
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Is your AOD centered (if you have it enabled)? I set my S8 to 420 and the AOD was slightly skewed to the right. Tried pushing it down to 411, which I guess is default on the S8+ and it re-centered the AOD. I'm assuming there are various 'accepted' DPI settings that won't break the layout; I think somebody listed them for the Pixel on Reddit, but I can't find a similar listing for the S8. Any ideas?

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Is your AOD centered (if you have it enabled)? I set my S8 to 420 and the AOD was slightly skewed to the right. Tried pushing it down to 411, which I guess is default on the S8+ and it re-centered the AOD. I'm assuming there are various 'accepted' DPI settings that won't break the layout; I think somebody listed them for the Pixel on Reddit, but I can't find a similar listing for the S8. Any ideas?
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I also noticed it not being centered after changing the DPI, and what's worse after setting it back to 411 it's still not centered

I'm at 480 and it's great. My aod is centered, but isn't it supposed to move a little very slowly to prevent burn in?
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I'm at 480 and it's great. My aod is centered, but isn't it supposed to move a little very slowly to prevent burn in?
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Indeed, feels like something I should have remembered. Thanks for pointing that out.

I am at 576.
Aod is centered but obviously small.
I use SwiftKey for keyboard and Nova launcher. Hence do not see any other issues
Increased font size and bold font so that I can read stuff better. I
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I'm on 425 und I love it.

449 for me. Been using it since S7e lollipop Beta. No issues I also use nova

500 here w/ all apps full-screen, bold font just a shade above tiny. So glad this is able to be done w/o root, along w/ multi window for any app!

Any recommendations for a bigger option xd... tried 351 but doesn't seems great.. 411 is too small for me

600 turns on tablet mode, and things are working well. Two issues I've noticed so far:
* The battery icon in AoD doesn't render correctly
* "About Phone -> Status" page causes com.android.phone FC - doesn't seem to have any ill effects besides not being able to open that page. Need to go 599 or lower to get it to open again.

480 is a good one

pwrmedia said:
500 here w/ all apps full-screen, bold font just a shade above tiny. So glad this is able to be done w/o root, along w/ multi window for any app!
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Hey, can you elaborate on the multi-window? I haven't messed around with mine that much yet, and I haven't seen anything mentioned anywhere else.

I remember doing this on the Note 7 I think and I remember that though I liked it, I wanted to go back, so when I set it back to the DPI that it was before, it didnt actually restore everything to the way it was. I noticed someone on here mentioned they set it back to 411 and that did NOT bring things back to stock. Can anyone else confirm?
Im on the s8+ and I love smaller icons/txt so I'd like a higher DPI, but scared that if I dont like it, I will not be able to get everything back to stock without restoring the phone, which I really dont want to do lol.
Also, what is AoD?
I use Nova, so not sure what it stands for.

elite-fusion said:
I remember doing this on the Note 7 I think and I remember that though I liked it, I wanted to go back, so when I set it back to the DPI that it was before, it didnt actually restore everything to the way it was. I noticed someone on here mentioned they set it back to 411 and that did NOT bring things back to stock. Can anyone else confirm?
Im on the s8+ and I love smaller icons/txt so I'd like a higher DPI, but scared that if I dont like it, I will not be able to get everything back to stock without restoring the phone, which I really dont want to do lol.
Also, what is AoD?
I use Nova, so not sure what it stands for.
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I haven't noticed anything that doesn't change back. If there are certain font sizes etc that don't change back, I would suspect a reboot would fix that, but I can't tell you for sure. AoD is 'Always on Display', the clock/date/battery/etc display that comes up on the screen when the screen is "off".

Zheranon said:
Hey, can you elaborate on the multi-window? I haven't messed around with mine that much yet, and I haven't seen anything mentioned anywhere else.
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Sure thing!
Settings>Advanced Features>Multiwindow: Enable both
Developer options>Force activities to be resizable: Enable
Once you've done that, hold your recents button to use multi-window whenever you'd like. I tend to use the feature for most of my daily work, and in my opinion is the most useful native addition in years.
I should mention as well, enabling "screen pinning" (Settings>Lock Screen and Security>Other Security Settings>Pin Windows) and using it when still wanting to keep another app full screen is very beneficial! Once enabled, you can access the feature w/ the recents button as well. Just hold down on the app.

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I haven't noticed anything that doesn't change back. If there are certain font sizes etc that don't change back, I would suspect a reboot would fix that, but I can't tell you for sure. AoD is 'Always on Display', the clock/date/battery/etc display that comes up on the screen when the screen is "off".
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Thanks
Any chance that someone can change the DPI to something and then back to stock (411) and see if everything (keyboard, AoD, etc) return back to stock too.

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Any chance that someone can change the DPI to something and then back to stock (411) and see if everything (keyboard, AoD, etc) return back to stock too.
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What I meant was, they do return back but I can't tell you definitively that every single setting is identical.