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There are several rumors making their rounds where the ram is now being quoted as being 5 or 6 Gb?? can anyone from Asus comment over this?
5-6gb for what :lol: You want your phone to be a supercomputer or something? Planning to play 'Shadow of Mordor' on your phone?
95% (even 99%) people not using upto 4GB. 4GB is more than enough at least for now.
What we really need/want is better battery life and user experience like better camera, better software, better performance, blah blah...
What I want to see Zenfone 3 is 2 (or even 3) days battery life with a 3000mah (or more) battery, 7-10h screen on time. Not 6GB RAM for nothing and 1.5-2h screen on-time.
@ Archmage1809 ... Completely agree on your point...Most of the smartphones who boast on better processors/ram/software sucks in terms of battery.. Lenovo / Gionee are launching phones with 5000mAh...what is the use of a smartphone if it doesnt give better battery backup.
hey now... why should I NOT get to play 'Shadow of Mordor' on my phone given the chance??... just think... you plug your phone with any bigger screen and boom ... every game you ever wanted is right there!!! OTG to connect a mouse and keyboard and you are all set to go ... no need to buy or carry gaming laptops anymore!! ohh the things I could get done if only this comes along! if you can get a replacement of your laptop/tablet/gaming console ...in a neat all in one package ... why the heck not!!
there are other options for better battery life if anyone wants them ... but for 350~400 $ I get an alternative for 1000$ on a minimum..
What is the use of the phone that allows you to play any game you want but in a few hours you have to keep it for charging ?
Yes, No doubt its a great thing that we might get that much amount of ram in some time but without fixing the battery issue which is a necessity that much amount of ram does not make any sense to me.
If they or for that matter any Smartphone manufacturer want to get something right for now that is battery life. If they do and then give us 5/6 gb of ram it would be awesome.
Asus Zenfone 2 4gb model is giving me only 4h screen on time which is not great at all. If you compare it with other phones in the market right now its the worst out of the lot. Battery is the Achilles Heel for this phone.
King_huzi52 said:
What is the use of the phone that allows you to play any game you want but in a few hours you have to keep it for charging ?
Yes, No doubt its a great thing that we might get that much amount of ram in some time but without fixing the battery issue which is a necessity that much amount of ram does not make any sense to me.
If they or for that matter any Smartphone manufacturer want to get something right for now that is battery life. If they do and then give us 5/6 gb of ram it would be awesome.
Asus Zenfone 2 4gb model is giving me only 4h screen on time which is not great at all. If you compare it with other phones in the market right now its the worst out of the lot. Battery is the Achilles Heel for this phone.
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Agree to this and everyone who says battery is a priority.
@op remember why phones were made. To communicate is the first priority, business application, navigation, news, social media and portable camera. The gaming is just at the end of their priority. Why not buy a device solely made and designed for gaming??? A phone is a phone regardless old tech or smartphone, remember why it was built for in the first place.
King_huzi52 said:
What is the use of the phone that allows you to play any game you want but in a few hours you have to keep it for charging ?
Yes, No doubt its a great thing that we might get that much amount of ram in some time but without fixing the battery issue which is a necessity that much amount of ram does not make any sense to me.
If they or for that matter any Smartphone manufacturer want to get something right for now that is battery life. If they do and then give us 5/6 gb of ram it would be awesome.
Asus Zenfone 2 4gb model is giving me only 4h screen on time which is not great at all. If you compare it with other phones in the market right now its the worst out of the lot. Battery is the Achilles Heel for this phone.
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I get around 4.5 to 5 hours SOT with power nap, greenify, amplify, project T kernal and superZen debloated... With around 18 to 20 standby... You can track my earlier posts here for screenshots as well... So you CAN get more juice if you twist it right... Check that out first...
livewire168 said:
Agree to this and everyone who says battery is a priority.
@op remember why phones were made. To communicate is the first priority, business application, navigation, news, social media and portable camera. The gaming is just at the end of their priority. Why not buy a device solely made and designed for gaming??? A phone is a phone regardless old tech or smartphone, remember why it was built for in the first place.
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Why buy a phone with 4gb when 1gb versions do all that you wrote above... It's a niche market and and should cater to different people.. Let's say they roll out different versions... One with 6gb ram and the other with 6000mah bat.... Everyone is happy..
Capitalism at it's finest..
SBFarooq said:
Why buy a phone with 4gb when 1gb versions do all that you wrote above... It's a niche market and and should cater to different people.. Let's say they roll out different versions... One with 6gb ram and the other with 6000mah bat.... Everyone is happy..
Capitalism at it's finest..
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Fragmentation is why.
We were lucky that Z00A encompassed so many variants, that the same ROM can be used across the board. Z008, ZF 2E, Laser, Selfie, et cetera, weren't so lucky. That group by and large lost out to the developer treats afforded to Z00A.
Bigger battery -> different form factor -> different model.
To say everyone will happy by having more models, is a misunderstanding. The current dumping of models upset a lot of people when they realized they would be left out this time around.
Rather than upping the obvious eyecatchers like RAM that don't really add much to the phone at this point, I'd rather see a Zenfone 2.1 or whatever they want to call it:
Keep the 4GB and the Z3580 (or go Z3590 if they must)
Do something (anything) to improve battery life
Improve the speaker to match the awesomeness-suggesting grill on the back
Include a higher quality camera module that works well in any app, not just ASUS' own
The current CPU and especially RAM should mean it's pretty futureproof, and by keeping the specs roughly the same custom ROMs for the Z00A can be used. ASUS would save on development costs yet produce a cracking phone that could, for the right price, get ASUS' name out there, which would mean a true Zenfone 3 will have to be good when the time comes if they remain serious about the mobile market.
Well I have my hopes up for a plug and play beast... This phone pushed me into learning about Android and Linux on a programming level.. And thanks to Udemy ..I would be ready for something around next year... Thanks for letting me learn something new.. Especially the information about form factors... Really got a different perspective now... But still.. 6gig would be a hellovathing...
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I get around 4.5 to 5 hours SOT with power nap, greenify, amplify, project T kernal and superZen debloated... With around 18 to 20 standby... You can track my earlier posts here for screenshots as well... So you CAN get more juice if you twist it right... Check that out first...
Capitalism at it's finest..
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I dont want to Hijack this thread for an issue I am facing with this phone. But I have tried every possible thing without rooting (as I dont want to void my warranty just yet) But if you have any posts which helps out please advise that I would like to go through it.
Apart from that staying on the topic. No one can make everyone happy. Hence requirements are different for everyone. My priority is Battery as everything else is available in this phone. There are some Gimmicky things which other phones are giving and Asus Zenfone 2 does not have that but I am fine with that.
There are three things which I consider as Cons for this awesome phone..
1. Battery
2. No backlight for capacitive buttons
3. Display is not that bright when at maximum... Check White to Contrast ratio when max.
Bdw as per the NEWS Asus Zenfone 3 would still have 2/4 gb ram not more.
I'd be down for bigger battery but 5gb ram? Don't think we need that in our phones yet.
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I'd be down for bigger battery but 5gb ram? Don't think we need that in our phones yet.
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Agreed, 20% more battery life is 10x better than 20% more RAM.
Will PM you later when free..
4gb ddr3 to 4gb ddr4
22nm to 14nm
Is the best way to go
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SBFarooq said:
Why buy a phone with 4gb when 1gb versions do all that you wrote above... It's a niche market and and should cater to different people.. Let's say they roll out different versions... One with 6gb ram and the other with 6000mah bat.... Everyone is happy..
Capitalism at it's finest..
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What your asking is not a niche but a bespoke phone and Asus marketing strategy focuses on mass general market which does not need a bespoke 6gb and 6000mah battery combo. Their lineup and variants with their prices range should have been a dead give away. Maybe try Samsung or HTC which caters to the higher price range and closer to bespoke market.
2GB is fairly sufficient. I have a Huawei Ascend mate 2 with only 16gb internal, 2gb of RAM and a 128gb micro SD and it's more than enough. I did order this device in the 64gb, 4gb ram version and am anxious to see how it is. It's arriving today. If anyone on here has unlocked their bootloader and rooted, would you mind sharing your expierences and or the simplest way to go about this?
MikeyLee said:
2GBis fairly sufficient. I have a Huawei Ascend mate 2 with only 16gb internal, 2gb of RAM and a 128gb micro SD and it's more than enough. I did order this device in the 64gb, 4gb ram version and am anxious to see how it is. It's arriving today. If anyone on here has unlocked their bootloader and rooted, would you mind sharing your expierences and or the simplest way to go about this?
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Don't install custom rom yet by unlocking your bootloader. Asus so far has been improving their firmwares almost twice a month if I'm not mistaken and it's getting better as it is. There are rumors that the new fw v2.20.40.127 might be coming out this week with a hefty 123mb more or less file size.
But if the current fw and os does not satisfy you, might I suggest the cm12.1 for zf2 nightly which is one of the most popular roms here and in zentalk and so far as per several user comment the most stable of them all for the zf2 x86 device.
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There are several rumors making their rounds where the ram is now being quoted as being 5 or 6 Gb?? can anyone from Asus comment over this?
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How about 6000 mAh battery? ASUS you feel me?
My current daily driver, a old OnePlus One is just deteriorating like crazy and I need to replace it... there are not any phones from 2015 that honestly grab my attention. Waiting some something big worth spending the big ones on...but in the mean time I need a driver to get me through the rest of the year. I'm having to charge and reboot my OPO 3+ times a day... so... I've been looking at the ZP2 as a low cost backup device.
My questions are...
How is the performance? Smooth?
How is the speaker(s)? Will my ringtones sound nice or like a $20 walmart phone?
How is the DAC? (Digital to Analog Converter)
How is the battery life? I tend to need at least 5 hours of SOT over a 20 hour peroid. (Roughly)
Is the phone pretty simple to get root and such? Or do I need a supernatural act to unlock and root it?
How is the screen? Bright? Dim? Colorful? I prefer IPS to AMOLED, so as long as it is a good IPS we are good. lol
How is the dev support? I see a lot in the forums, but I'm just curius if it is all still being supported.
Much appreciated to anyone who can fill me in.
For around $300 (or $200 for the 2GB version) there's nothing that offers better value or performance.
[*]How is the performance? Smooth?
Performance is great, especially if you multitask a lot or like having lots of browser tabs open. GPU is a bit old, same as iPhone 5s, but still good performer.
[*]How is the speaker(s)? Will my ringtones sound nice or like a $20 walmart phone?
Speaker is weak. What can you expect from a tiny speaker?
[*]How is the DAC? (Digital to Analog Converter)
This one's very good, better than most phones.
[*]How is the battery life? I tend to need at least 5 hours of SOT over a 20 hour peroid. (Roughly)
Battery life will depend on what you with your phone. I get like 3 to 4 hours SOT, with at least 1 hour of waze, a lot of browsing, email and a bit of gaming. Stand by time is excellent.
[*]Is the phone pretty simple to get root and such? Or do I need a supernatural act to unlock and root it?
Yes it is. I got root 5 minutes after having it in my hand. I unlocked it the next day unlock was available. Just don't use official unlock, as it seems to cause problems.
[*]How is the screen? Bright? Dim? Colorful? I prefer IPS to AMOLED, so as long as it is a good IPS we are good. lol
It's bright enough.
[*]How is the dev support? I see a lot in the forums, but I'm just curius if it is all still being supported.
See for yourself in the dev section.
Locklear308 said:
My current daily driver, a old OnePlus One is just deteriorating like crazy and I need to replace it... there are not any phones from 2015 that honestly grab my attention. Waiting some something big worth spending the big ones on...but in the mean time I need a driver to get me through the rest of the year. I'm having to charge and reboot my OPO 3+ times a day... so... I've been looking at the ZP2 as a low cost backup device.
My questions are...
How is the performance? Smooth?
How is the speaker(s)? Will my ringtones sound nice or like a $20 walmart phone?
How is the DAC? (Digital to Analog Converter)
How is the battery life? I tend to need at least 5 hours of SOT over a 20 hour peroid. (Roughly)
Is the phone pretty simple to get root and such? Or do I need a supernatural act to unlock and root it?
How is the screen? Bright? Dim? Colorful? I prefer IPS to AMOLED, so as long as it is a good IPS we are good. lol
How is the dev support? I see a lot in the forums, but I'm just curius if it is all still being supported.
Much appreciated to anyone who can fill me in.
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Bought phone about 2 months ago and so far performance is pretty good. Could be a little better but considering the abuse I give my phone, not to bad. Speakers arnt to bad either. They are a little quite when I'm outside with my mates but, I am happy with them regardless as the quality is surprisingly good. For battery life, I get about a days usage, and that is with constant usage and a bit of YouTube. As for rooting and flashing ROMs and stuff, havnt tried it yet. Looks like its alot easier then it used to be, there is even a nice looking windows GUI tool now but still am to scared to try it lol. Screen is a really nice display. If u are in direct sunlight or just outside in general, the screen could be better. It is hard to see things in that environment but otherwise, it's super nice. As for dev support, from what i see, it's very active lol
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glock24 said:
For around $300 (or $200 for the 2GB version) there's nothing that offers better value or performance.
[*]How is the performance? Smooth?
Performance is great, especially if you multitask a lot or like having lots of browser tabs open. GPU is a bit old, same as iPhone 5s, but still good performer.
[*]How is the speaker(s)? Will my ringtones sound nice or like a $20 walmart phone?
Speaker is weak. What can you expect from a tiny speaker?
[*]How is the DAC? (Digital to Analog Converter)
This one's very good, better than most phones.
[*]How is the battery life? I tend to need at least 5 hours of SOT over a 20 hour peroid. (Roughly)
Battery life will depend on what you with your phone. I get like 3 to 4 hours SOT, with at least 1 hour of waze, a lot of browsing, email and a bit of gaming. Stand by time is excellent.
[*]Is the phone pretty simple to get root and such? Or do I need a supernatural act to unlock and root it?
Yes it is. I got root 5 minutes after having it in my hand. I unlocked it the next day unlock was available. Just don't use official unlock, as it seems to cause problems.
[*]How is the screen? Bright? Dim? Colorful? I prefer IPS to AMOLED, so as long as it is a good IPS we are good. lol
It's bright enough.
[*]How is the dev support? I see a lot in the forums, but I'm just curius if it is all still being supported.
See for yourself in the dev section.
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Wow, thanks that is really helpful my friend. While I don't expect it to sound like the HTC M7-8-9 speakers, I just prefer my phones to...at least, not sound like they are exploding when my ringtone comes in lol.
The phone is nice and smooth on stock software, but I installed an AOSP ROM and let me tell you it is incredible now.
With stock, I'd generally get ~4-5 hours SOT without any tweaking (I was one of the lucky few, it seems) and now I get ~5-6 on the ROM.
The speaker is eh. Your ringtones will be recognisable; they won't sound absolutely disgusting, but the speakers aren't terribly great (however, audio over the headphone jack is fantastic. Just make sure you turn off the "audiowizard" software; it's pretty gross)
There are one-click tools to get root and bootloader unlock, and using both took me ~10 minutes.
The screen is pretty nice, but it's not great, admittedly. However, I really only notice its shortcomings when held next to a better screen (such as the one on my nexus 7), and it's still way preferable to most phone screens to me.
Dev support is alive and well, my friend!
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Locklear308 said:
My current daily driver, a old OnePlus One is just deteriorating like crazy and I need to replace it... there are not any phones from 2015 that honestly grab my attention. Waiting some something big worth spending the big ones on...but in the mean time I need a driver to get me through the rest of the year. I'm having to charge and reboot my OPO 3+ times a day... so... I've been looking at the ZP2 as a low cost backup device.
My questions are...
How is the performance? Smooth?
How is the speaker(s)? Will my ringtones sound nice or like a $20 walmart phone?
How is the DAC? (Digital to Analog Converter)
How is the battery life? I tend to need at least 5 hours of SOT over a 20 hour peroid. (Roughly)
Is the phone pretty simple to get root and such? Or do I need a supernatural act to unlock and root it?
How is the screen? Bright? Dim? Colorful? I prefer IPS to AMOLED, so as long as it is a good IPS we are good. lol
How is the dev support? I see a lot in the forums, but I'm just curius if it is all still being supported.
Much appreciated to anyone who can fill me in.
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1. Performance is pretty smooth, intel cpu is comparable to the snapdragon 801 in your OPO but with a better GPU
2. Speaker is small and kinda tinny. Not $20 walmart phone level but nothing particularly amazing.
3. Very very good actually. Very clean, little to no distortion/crosstalk. Check out GSMArena's measurements.
4. Standby is slightly better than average, screen drain is slightly worse than average. You will probably wind up getting slightly less battery than your OPO because OPO is better than most phones for battery life. ZF2 battery is just average.
5. Rooting is easier than most phones. Its actually easier than my nexus 7 on marshmallow! There are 1-click-root tools on this forum as well.
6. Screen is good. Accurate with good contrast. Its a bit dimmer at max brightness than other phones, and doesn't get dim as other phones at min brightness. Indoor use is absolutely fine.
7. Dev support is pretty good, better than a lot of phones, especially in this price range. Unofficial (right now) CM12, a lot of common custom roms have ports, and rumblings are that this phone may wind up with both official CM12 and CM13 in the future.
I have touch screen issues where it just stops working until I restart, and I've also had a bit of lag and crashing in day to day usage on the stock rom, without any overclocking.
It's an alright phone for the price, but I'd say phones like the Meizu Note 3 and the Redmi Note 3 have trumped it in terms of performance:value ratio.
I recommend reading this review, it's on a newer firmware that fixed most bugs present at launch and I found it to be unbiased, contrary to others.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/asus-zenfone-2,4267.html
This other article illustrates the advantage of having 4GB of RAM and how Asus's Rom is not as bloated as people think:
http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=897
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glock24 said:
I recommend reading this review, it's on a newer firmware that fixed most bugs present at launch and I found it to be unbiased, contrary to others.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/asus-zenfone-2,4267.html
This other article illustrates the advantage of having 4GB of RAM and how Asus's Rom is not as bloated as people think:
http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=897
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Thanks mate, I will check those out. I presume they will not matter too much however due to be never using the stock rom though, right?
Also, I see the ZE551ML at microcenter... Is this... an alright model to get? I don't see it really in the Roms section so I was worried.
xiaomi is doing better with the redmi note 3
there are several variants of the zf2, the 551 ML is actually the best choice since all custom roms support it. thing is it comes in several flavors: 16 gig /2 gigs ram, 64 gig /4 gigs ram, 16gig /4 gigs ram, 32 gig /4 gigs of ram, plus 2 different processor versions. they are all the 551 ML though so no matter which version you get, the roms will work. I personally own a 550ML and don't regret my choice, though I'm going to be selling it soon to get a 551 ML
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xiaomi is doing better with the redmi note 3
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My only issue with non US brand phones is finding dev support.
This phone is awesome. I switched from an S5 and to this phone love it. I would recommend getting the 4 gig version, it an handle pretty much anything. I can definitely say this phone is worth getting
How is the performance? Smooth? performs amazingly, no lags and very smooth.
How is the speaker(s)? Will my ringtones sound nice or like a $20 walmart phone? I have had no issues with the sound. It is loud and audible. I listen to YouTube all the time
How is the DAC? (Digital to Analog Converter) Not sure on this
How is the battery life? I tend to need at least 5 hours of SOT over a 20 hour peroid. (Roughly) This depends on usage but I usually charge mine every other day
Is the phone pretty simple to get root and such? Or do I need a supernatural act to unlock and root it? Root is super easy to obtain. It took me less than 10 minutes
How is the screen? Bright? Dim? Colorful? I prefer IPS to AMOLED, so as long as it is a good IPS we are good. lol The screen is great. It's vivid. the brightness is good outside
How is the dev support? I see a lot in the forums, but I'm just curius if it is all still being supported. As far as I know it is still being supported.
So, I'm a college student, and my money has finally came back in to me. Working at my job, I've saved up enough money to get me a Nexus 6P finally.
Right now, I'm still really on the fence. I have an original Nexus 5, cracked screen, shot battery, and it has some slowdowns at times. Basically I want this newer phone to just be on the latest edge, but the biggest thing is the battery.
So a few questions.
Is battery really noticeably better? I get 2hours SOT on my N5, which I know is shot. I've restarted it at 40% battery and it showed 13 afterwards.
Do you think 128GB for 100 more dollars is worth it? I'm leaning toward yes, and purchasing the 128GB. My 32GB N5 is full, and it don't have all my music on it, could have lots more. I take pics a lot but don't rely on cloud services to backup. I have deleted some larger apps to open more space on my phone since I'm hovering around 500MB left. 64 is a lot, but 128 is a LOAD more. Is it worth it you think?
Thanks in advance!
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So, I'm a college student, and my money has finally came back in to me. Working at my job, I've saved up enough money to get me a Nexus 6P finally.
Right now, I'm still really on the fence. I have an original Nexus 5, cracked screen, shot battery, and it has some slowdowns at times. Basically I want this newer phone to just be on the latest edge, but the biggest thing is the battery.
So a few questions.
Is battery really noticeably better? I get 2hours SOT on my N5, which I know is shot. I've restarted it at 40% battery and it showed 13 afterwards.
Do you think 128GB for 100 more dollars is worth it? I'm leaning toward yes, and purchasing the 128GB. My 32GB N5 is full, and it don't have all my music on it, could have lots more. I take pics a lot but don't rely on cloud services to backup. I have deleted some larger apps to open more space on my phone since I'm hovering around 500MB left. 64 is a lot, but 128 is a LOAD more. Is it worth it you think?
Thanks in advance!
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Honestly, only you can really answer whether it's worth it or not. The battery is pretty good, I usually get 4-5 hours screen on time. I bought the 64gb model because I can't see myself actually using the full 128gb. You have to ask yourself, do you have 128gb of crap that needs to be on your phone at once?
Heisenberg said:
Honestly, only you can really answer whether it's worth it or not. The battery is pretty good, I usually get 4-5 hours screen on time. I bought the 64gb model because I can't see myself actually using the full 128gb. You have to ask yourself, do you have 128gb of crap that needs to be on your phone at once?
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No, I really don't. Although I do have a lot of music in my iTunes not on my N5, plus the 6P can record 4K video and slow motion video I believe and burst mode. Which could potentially eat a lot of data.
Plus, for 100 dollars not only will I have a top Android phone, I'll have the biggest size and the best money can buy Nexus phone.
I just want others opinions if the extra 100 for double memory is worth it.
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No, I really don't. Although I do have a lot of music in my iTunes not on my N5, plus the 6P can record 4K video and slow motion video I believe and burst mode. Which could potentially eat a lot of data.
Plus, for 100 dollars not only will I have a top Android phone, I'll have the biggest size and the best money can buy Nexus phone.
I just want others opinions if the extra 100 for double memory is worth it.
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If we're going by market value, no it isn't worth it (gb per dollar). What it really comes down to is whether it's worth it to you. Personally, I don't see the need for 128gb on my phone, but I've seen plenty of people claim that even 128gb isn't enough. If you buy the device you'll have a top Android phone regardless of the capacity you go for. It all comes down to whether you actually need that amount of storage.
I had 128, 111 available to user. Well I got the gold standard when it was released. Having the "largest" was not necessary like I thought. I got a better price better color and I still have plenty of memory. Roughly thirty one GB available still and I have like eighteen GB of music.. I did buy a cheap $30 prepaid device solely for caring a memory card with my music and movies to stream Gps etc.... But anyways, this Nexus will last me about 1-2 years given the battery capacity etc.... Sooooo going all the way to the top with memory isn't that serious I guess in the long run
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Heisenberg said:
Honestly, only you can really answer whether it's worth it or not. The battery is pretty good, I usually get 4-5 hours screen on time. I bought the 64gb model because I can't see myself actually using the full 128gb. You have to ask yourself, do you have 128gb of crap that needs to be on your phone at once?
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Cleva1 said:
I had 128, 111 available to user. Well I got the gold standard when it was released. Having the "largest" was not necessary like I thought. I got a better price better color and I still have plenty of memory. Roughly thirty one GB available still and I have like eighteen GB of music.. I did buy a cheap $30 prepaid device solely for caring a memory card with my music and movies to stream Gps etc.... But anyways, this Nexus will last me about 1-2 years given the battery capacity etc.... Sooooo going all the way to the top with memory isn't that serious I guess in the long run
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I'm just curious if I'll be like that since I'll have all my music on here, and for 100 more, I double the memory. In theory it sounds like a good idea but I don't know anymore. Very hard to decide.
I also have a Nexus 5 (2013) 32GB and now a Nexus 6P 32GB. I could only get the smallest version from my provider (Vodafone) but I can live with the storage. I´m not somebody who needs to carry e.g. all Seasons of Family Guy or other sitcoms on my device. Worst case I will get a USB Type C OTG Stick and use this from time to time to move eg. pictures and TWRP backups on this one. I would have loved the 64GB version but it was not available because the demand for this phone is not very high. Most guys chose other brands.
In terms of performance and battery life there is a huge difference with the Nexus 6P. I can get up to 8h of SOT ( most the time around 6-7+ ). I don´t have 100eds of Apps or Games installed and I use a customized, Stock based ROM which suits my needs. From a technical point of view, the Nexus 6P is a great device but it´s not as rugged as it seems. Make sure to threat it better than eg. your girlfriend because this device tends to bend or to warp quite easily...even if you use a decent case with it.
I bought the aluminum Nexus 6P with 128GB. I have about 55GB of music that I want to carry with me on my phone while leaving plenty of space for future app installation and Nandroid backups, so anything less than the 128GB version wouldn't have worked for me. I haven't bought a Nexus phone in many years because of the lack of expandable storage and available internal storage being 64GB or less, so it was great to be able to come back to a Nexus phone this cycle.
The 6P has far, far better battery life than the N5. Also, you can charge it far, far faster as well. I'd say 64GB is fine unless you have a huge music or video library you are going to put on the phone. Calculate it out.
Also, if you are going to college in the US, defiantly take some English grammar classes.
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dcrandon said:
The 6P has far, far better battery life than the N5. Also, you can charge it far, far faster as well. I'd say 64GB is fine unless you have a huge music or video library you are going to put on the phone. Calculate it out.
Also, if you are going to college in the US, defiantly take some English grammar classes.
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*definitely
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*definitely
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Haha. I should pay more attention to my automatic spell check.
snappycg1996 said:
So, I'm a college student, and my money has finally came back in to me. Working at my job, I've saved up enough money to get me a Nexus 6P finally.
Right now, I'm still really on the fence. I have an original Nexus 5, cracked screen, shot battery, and it has some slowdowns at times. Basically I want this newer phone to just be on the latest edge, but the biggest thing is the battery.
So a few questions.
Is battery really noticeably better? I get 2hours SOT on my N5, which I know is shot. I've restarted it at 40% battery and it showed 13 afterwards.
Do you think 128GB for 100 more dollars is worth it? I'm leaning toward yes, and purchasing the 128GB. My 32GB N5 is full, and it don't have all my music on it, could have lots more. I take pics a lot but don't rely on cloud services to backup. I have deleted some larger apps to open more space on my phone since I'm hovering around 500MB left. 64 is a lot, but 128 is a LOAD more. Is it worth it you think?
Thanks in advance!
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I made the jump to the 6p from the 5 and the difference in SOT is soooo pronounced dude. I was constantly running into issues because of my 5 constantly dying on me, or stressed about it constantly being on the verge of dying on me when it wasn't already dead lol. Not an issue whatsoever with the 6p, those extra 3ish hours make a world of difference
As for memory, 64gh should be plenty. I dual boot ROMs, have a large chunk of my music collection and have scads of photos and apps on mine and I'm (barely) getting by with a 32gb That being said, if you're someone who uses their phone in lieu of a computer then obviously the more the merrier.
All of this stuff is relative though, so my needs from my phone won't necessarily reflect yours, obviously. No matter what its a super sick phone though and a massive step up from the 5.
now that you guys have seen the new moto, what do you think? would you buy it?
the buzz killer a bit for me is the deleted 3.5mm headphone jack
well it's estimated that moto z2 force is gonna cost for apx $621.49/- which i personally think is costly and not worth it
pros:
snapdragon 835(faster ovbio.. u will get updates more quicker & better performance)
dual camera (which is good feature)
shaterproof screen (nice)
5.5 quadhd amoled (nice)
cons:
battery (2730mAh) not worth
no audio jack (upto you)
moto mods... (too costly)
4GB ram... (one plus 5 has released phones upto 8GB and moto still at 4GB)
wall charger now gives 12W instead of 20W power (won't charge quick like moto x style/pure)
final review: just look and think. if i was you i would have not wasted my $621.49/- for this. instead i would have got a new and better phone
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well it's estimated that moto z2 force is gonna cost for apx $621.49/- which i personally think is costly and not worth it
pros:
snapdragon 835(faster ovbio.. u will get updates more quicker & better performance)
dual camera (which is good feature)
shaterproof screen (nice)
5.5 quadhd amoled (nice)
cons:
battery (2730mAh) not worth
no audio jack (upto you)
moto mods... (too costly)
4GB ram... (one plus 5 has released phones upto 8GB and moto still at 4GB)
wall charger now gives 12W instead of 20W power (won't charge quick like moto x style/pure)
final review: just look and think. if i was you i would have not wasted my $621.49/- for this. instead i would have got a new and better phone
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the pure has 5.7 quad HD screen
Jonathanlc2005 said:
the pure has 5.7 quad HD screen
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but its isp whereas the z2 force is amoled
2700 mah on a snapdragon 835. I don't know what motorola is thinking about but is way above the average for a 2017 flagship. It is a ridiculous decision from a ridiculous company.
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2700 mah on a snapdragon 835. I don't know what motorola is thinking about but is way above the average for a 2017 flagship. It is a ridiculous decision from a ridiculous company.
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Agreed. 100%. I'll link the Reddit thread about why the Z2 force sucks for what it is.
yeah ill be more concerned about the battery because once your using all those apps on that 4gb of ram and it gets close to max... that battery is going to be shot.
had they included 6gb of ram i may have been more willing to buy it
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yeah ill be more concerned about the battery because once your using all those apps on that 4gb of ram and it gets close to max... that battery is going to be shot.
had they included 6gb of ram i may have been more willing to buy it
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Umm... What? Why would having 2, 4, or 6 GB of RAM have any relation to battery life? That doesn't make any sense... personally I just don't like it because the battery is too small, period.
The Moto Z play was a phone whose quality construction was the worst. The back "glass" scratched with only seeyin it, the cámera lens wasn't even scratch prof so it gets scratched too. The screen was mounted in a way that with a 10cm fall it break in 10 pieces. Lenovo chose to save cents in a 450 USD phone just putting in it the worse materials ever.
Eveen with this in mind it is a phone wich become a sales record just for his amazin battery life, like 12 hours of SoT in some cases.
Now what is even even even more amazing that what they did with the Z2 force, is how they cut the battery of the Z Play in their Z Play 2, to release a phone a little bit tiny with almost the same processor, the same screen and similar cameras, justo to price it 150 U$D more. Not only they cut the battery mAh in 600mah, it doesn't last even the half of the Z Play wich was a succes for his battery life. All of this just to gain 1mm less Lol.
Really i don't know what they are thinking about, maybe they think they are going to sell more mods in this way but only a monkey will pay so much for a phone that much overpriced with poor battery life. To this just add the shi**y customer services and support they had. I am just crossing my fingers for Nokia to come worldwide.
The battery isn't too bad since it's less than 10% smaller than the Pure's with the addition of a more efficient processor and an AMOLED display help balance it out
The extra memory is nice, but it won't make too much of a difference in the day to day use that I have
The shatter-proof display is really cool, but it's plastic and can be scratched so easily, at that point I'd rather have a glass screen and a screen protector
I could never see myself buying a moto mod because of them being too pricey along with me preferring to have a case on at all times
The dual camera thing is nice, but I'm perfectly satisfied with the single camera on the Pure. The Camera bump is also terrible and I'd hate to deal with that if I couldn't have a case on
The lack of dual front facing speakers is a pretty big downside for me, but I'd be willing to deal with it if the phone had more pros
I personally hate the way Moto has implemented the fingerprint scanner since it can't be used as a home button and the software buttons are still there just wasting screen real-estate
It's being shipped with an already out of date version of Nougat (7.1.1) and then it'll get O and (maybe) P. The only thing I would be happy about in regards to the updates is the possibility of them being delivered more quickly
Finally, the price. Assuming that everyone here that is thinking about switching from the Pure, (based on the current prices from Swappa and Ebay) you'll probably get about $200 from a 16GB used Pure. Then you could get it for about $520 (assuming that you buy the phone for $720). Ultimately, this is a bad deal and nowhere near worth it for me
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Umm... What? Why would having 2, 4, or 6 GB of RAM have any relation to battery life? That doesn't make any sense... personally I just don't like it because the battery is too small, period.
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come on... you know as memory gets closer to capacity it draws more power
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come on... you know as memory gets closer to capacity it draws more power
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Lol... Sure, ok
Jonathanlc2005 said:
come on... you know as memory gets closer to capacity it draws more power
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Please show me where you for your information because pretty sure you're wrong.
xantanion said:
Please show me where you for your information because pretty sure you're wrong.
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well... you tell me. why dont you prove me wrong. do 2 runs. with no timeout and max brightness.
using a task manager run a phone with 90% ram like clash of clans and a bunch of other **** and run another one with less than 50%
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well... you tell me. why dont you prove me wrong. do 2 runs. with no timeout and max brightness.
using a task manager run a phone with 90% ram like clash of clans and a bunch of other **** and run another one with less than 50%
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So now you're bringing screen brightness into this? Lol
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well... you tell me. why dont you prove me wrong. do 2 runs. with no timeout and max brightness.
using a task manager run a phone with 90% ram like clash of clans and a bunch of other **** and run another one with less than 50%
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You are likely missing an important piece here... those apps running, are RUNNING, in other words they are doing stuff like accessing the processor, sensors, storage, etc.
[troll]Logic says your thought that having more RAM's reduces power consumption is flawed... if anything it is the opposite, more RAM will likely require more power because the more stuff in RAM, the more things running and doing stuff, thus using more battery.[/troll]
Sorry, but this topic has been debated to death since different RAM variants of otherwise identical Android devices came out and the consensus is that the amount of RAM in otherwise similar devices has no noticeable impact on battery consumption... Do you see reviews where a difference in battery life is noted between say the Moto G5 Plus 2/32GB and 4/64GB models, the OP5's 6GB or 8GB variant, or the Redmi Note 4 which comes in a 2, 3, and 4GB variant? No... why? Because there is no difference in battery consumption. There is potential of difference for many other things related specifically to RAM, but not battery life.
Show me a review or article that is from a verifiable, reputable source that states the contrary and explains WHY it would take more power and I will gladly read it.
There is also the piece we haven't mentioned, that a device should never have more than 10-15% of free RAM anyway... this is a Linux based OS, meaning free RAM is wasted RAM.
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You are likely missing an important piece here... those apps running, are RUNNING, in other words they are doing stuff like accessing the processor, sensors, storage, etc.
[troll]Logic says your thought that having more RAM's reduces power consumption is flawed... if anything it is the opposite, more RAM will likely require more power because the more stuff in RAM, the more things running and doing stuff, thus using more battery.[/troll]
Sorry, but this topic has been debated to death since different RAM variants of otherwise identical Android devices came out and the consensus is that the amount of RAM in otherwise similar devices has no noticeable impact on battery consumption... Do you see reviews where a difference in battery life is noted between say the Moto G5 Plus 2/32GB and 4/64GB models, the OP5's 6GB or 8GB variant, or the Redmi Note 4 which comes in a 2, 3, and 4GB variant? No... why? Because there is no difference in battery consumption. There is potential of difference for many other things related specifically to RAM, but not battery life.
Show me a review or article that is from a verifiable, reputable source that states the contrary and explains WHY it would take more power and I will gladly read it.
There is also the piece we haven't mentioned, that a device should never have more than 10-15% of free RAM anyway... this is a Linux based OS, meaning free RAM is wasted RAM.
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Well said ace!!!??
Here's another good reason not to buy the MZ2F
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/07/31/moto-z2-forces-unbreakable-screen-may-deal-breaker/
NoLimitCrafting said:
Here's another good reason not to buy the MZ2F
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/07/31/moto-z2-forces-unbreakable-screen-may-deal-breaker/
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Lenovo downgrade the quality of their product to a really poor level. It started with the lenz of the g4 and Z line and continued with the Z play screen an back cover. They prefer to save cents not putting scratch test glass that bringing a solid product to their clients.
Not a chance, the Moto z2 force is a downgrade to this phone
I need a new phone my current phone is so slow now and has battery issues.
Used Oneplus 2 is more cheaper than Used Oneplus 3 right now.
I will mainly use it for watching youtube videos , messaging , browsing , little bit of gpu or cpu intensive games and light gaming.
Camera quality doesn't matter for me.Only thing matters for me is performance and official or unofficial (Custom Roms) support.
Is this phone worth it or should I spend more money and get Nexus 6P?
Get something like a xiaomi device. The SD810 in this phone is not great with handling intense games (like real racing 3)
Tbh I would not but an op device anymore.
I've got my gf a xiaomi note 4 for much less and it performs well and got great custom rom support.
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Phone is good, but heats a lot, or else it will fill all ur requirements
Bought this phone some weeks ago, the unpleasant temperatures when touching and the thermal throttling or unstable performance when just gaming made me sell it, tried tweaking it with custom kernels and settings but nothing did the job. Found a very nice deal so won a bit of money after all.
Bought an LG g5 after that for just 20 euros more and very happy with the change and swappable battery is very pleasant. Even Oreo is expected as an official update around June.
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Big plusses to One Plus 2? If you are a mechanic, this thing is amazingly friendly as far as fixing it goes. My phone is made out of two broken phones, and that brings up the second consideration. How much are you paying for it? If you get a great deal for a used one, it might be worth it. Various Android Oreo roms (I'm running Lineage right now) make the phone seem very up to date. The phone is a solid work of engineering.
Big minus? Mainly one: the battery life on this phone is fairly bad and on top of that the third party batteries are basically all that are available unless you want to spend $60 or more for a OnePlus factory repair (they don't sell the battery to consumers!). That said, my phone is using a battery I bought for $12 off ebay and it goes for a day before needing recharge. Videos online will step you through the battery replacement process, which takes about 10 minutes or less and requires some removal of 18 tiny screws.
It wasn't even worth it in the year it was released so just dont buy this ****ty device or you will end up regretting on wasting that money. Either buy a Xiomi device or spend a little more and get oneplus 3/T heck even oneplus 1 is better.