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Chinese Pebble Clone

So I discovered a manufacturer in China that has started manufacturing a smart-watch that is plainly put a clone of the pebble. I just received today my production sample and am testing it. It's based on the EFM32 Cortex-M micro-controller. Bluetooth 4.0 BLE. The screen is Sharp Memory LCD. Battery 270 mAh , they claim battery life is over 10 days. Firmware is based on FreeRTOS and looks very similar to that on the Pebble. Watch has the same 4 buttons layout and the exact magnetic charger. Water resistance is rated IP 67. Tested it by tacking a bath. Even has the same issue with an easily scratch-able screen . Comes with 4 watch faces.
Here are some images :
http://imgur.com/a/X6tLy
Here is the suppliers page : http://imesmart.en.alibaba.com/prod...mart_watch_blue_tooth_iphone_smart_watch.html
These things go for 58 usd a piece. They haven't hit any sites like DealExtreme or Aliexpress yet.
This is the Android app used to connect to the watch if anyone wants to decompile it : https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_0tZLvAcbvCYVVSaEQzVWpsZzQ/edit
Managed to find out that ZTE is selling this device under their brand : http://www.appchina.com/app/com.mtt.smartwatch/
It's exactly the same as this ZTE as I am curently using the ZTE app to connect to the watch.
http://www.myzte.com/goods-171-Grand Watch 蓝牙手表.html
Here is the ZTE app that works with this watch :
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_0tZLvAcbvCMWoyVUhFbE9DcVU/edit
Decompiled APK : http://www.decompileandroid.com/complete/68314?key=9969f412434b6f979e2325e4d6641661

the ZTE bluewatch looks a hell of a lot better?

This is basically the ZTE bluewatch in a different case.

lgstoian said:
So I discovered a manufacturer in China that has started manufacturing a smart-watch that is plainly put a clone of the pebble. I just received today my production sample and am testing it. It's based on the EFM32 Cortex-M micro-controller. Bluetooth 4.0 BLE. The screen is Sharp Memory LCD. Battery 270 mAh , they claim battery life is over 10 days. Firmware is based on FreeRTOS and looks very similar to that on the Pebble. Watch has the same 4 buttons layout and the exact magnetic charger. Water resistance is rated IP 67. Tested it by tacking a bath. Even has the same issue with an easily scratch-able screen . Comes with 4 watch faces.
Here are some images :
http://imgur.com/a/X6tLy
Here is the suppliers page : http://imesmart.en.alibaba.com/prod...mart_watch_blue_tooth_iphone_smart_watch.html
These things go for 58 usd a piece. They haven't hit any sites like DealExtreme or Aliexpress yet.
This is the Android app used to connect to the watch if anyone wants to decompile it : https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_0tZLvAcbvCYVVSaEQzVWpsZzQ/edit
Managed to find out that ZTE is selling this device under their brand : http://www.appchina.com/app/com.mtt.smartwatch/
It's exactly the same as this ZTE as I am curently using the ZTE app to connect to the watch.
http://www.myzte.com/goods-171-Grand Watch 蓝牙手表.html
Here is the ZTE app that works with this watch :
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_0tZLvAcbvCMWoyVUhFbE9DcVU/edit
Decompiled APK : http://www.decompileandroid.com/complete/68314?key=9969f412434b6f979e2325e4d6641661
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Guess you'll need about 9 days to test the battery

It came with a half charged battery and it ran out of charge after 5 days.

lgstoian said:
It came with a half charged battery and it ran out of charge after 5 days.
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Super anything else you've found out? Any other issues?
would you recommend it? :good:

Pretty hard not to recommend for 58 bucks. I found that on my Note 2 it sometimes looses Bluetooth connection after a few hours but doesn't seem to have this issue on the P6. The companion app for Android is just version 1.0 and has just been released last month so I am hopping there will be updates to solve this.

Manufacturer sent me an updated companion app that seems to have fixed the connection issues. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_0tZLvAcbvCR1pZcWw0OHdxcWQxQUt2bUFJczNRSXdtV3A0/edit
They claim to provide updates at least once a month.

lgstoian said:
Manufacturer sent me an updated companion app that seems to have fixed the connection issues. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_0tZLvAcbvCR1pZcWw0OHdxcWQxQUt2bUFJczNRSXdtV3A0/edit
They claim to provide updates at least once a month.
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Good news. :laugh:
can you use apps from the pebble apps store?
does this work as a stand alone watch? I.e. when its not connected to a device.

No you can't use the Pebble app's and yes it does work like a standalone watch , you can even completely shut down Bluetooth. Till now I'm quite impressed with the little guy. I'm now used to being able to see all my notifications on it and to control the music player. Pedometer is also kinda cool and the data syncs to the phone app.

same spec as the pebble
lgstoian said:
No you can't use the Pebble app's and yes it does work like a standalone watch , you can even completely shut down Bluetooth. Till now I'm quite impressed with the little guy. I'm now used to being able to see all my notifications on it and to control the music player. Pedometer is also kinda cool and the data syncs to the phone app.
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So without connected to a device you the the time, date, does the vibrating alarm work, any others functions?
Are the spec's exactly the same as the pebble with all the sensors and GPS?
The 10 day battery life is just fantastic. :good:
Thanks for the info' :good:

i'm writing right now a detailed review of the watch and will be posting it in a new thread.
Yes it has all the functions you would expect from a normal watch and they can be used without a phone , so you can set alarms.
Neither this nor the Pebble have GPS. But they do have an accelerometer.

lgstoian said:
i'm writing right now a detailed review of the watch and will be posting it in a new thread.
Yes it has all the functions you would expect from a normal watch and they can be used without a phone , so you can set alarms.
Neither this nor the Pebble have GPS. But they do have an accelerometer.
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The info' in the ClearDroid link watch comparison I posted is incorrect, its says it has a GPS.
can't wait for the review, mentioning all the 'stand alone watch' functions will be most helpful.
...this watch keeps getting better. :laugh:
What sensor does a compass app use. d'you know?

Magnetic and it doesn't have that. The review is up.

MIMI W3 Smartwatch

Hi all,
Found this smartwatch and it looks pretty nice: *cant post links!* website is mimi-hk. The watch is the MI W3 smartwatch.
This is an update of a watch I can't find much info on, the MI-W2 watch, or the Podoor PW305 (which was updated also to the PW305 II) so if anyone has used them please rate!
It is not Android based, but that doesn't bother me. Android smartwatches run out of power too quickly and obviously I'm going cheap here. It seems it can be used for at least a good few days. The watch face is listed as translucent stays on all the time, which is key for me as I don't see the point in having a smart WATCH that is so smart it doesn't show me the time! Amongst the features, it also has things like: Backlight when you lift your wrist. Apparently IP67 waterproof. Answer calls. Reject calls. Read messages. Send messages (though this is pointless on a small screen). Metal body. Leather strap. It's actually a watch.
I have contacted mimi-hk and they will sell the W3 for £63.48, $102 ($90 + $12 delivery).
Everbuying sell the watch for $88.27 delivered, (£56.87) Has anyone used everbuying before? Would anyone recommend them, or recommend staying away!?
I think this watch looks decent, has all the features I'd need on a companion watch and is a decent price. Does anyone see why I shouldn't go for it?
Thanks!

Its bluetooth is 3.0 nor 4.0... This bluetooth is not energy eficient so battery life has not to be so good

Link Here
StuDB said:
Hi all,
Found this smartwatch and it looks pretty nice: *cant post links!*
Thanks!
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Hi Stu,
I have seen this watch but also could not find any info on it! For info, link is here: www.everbuying.com/product609837.html
Looks like a good watch, if the battery can hold up!

Oh sweet, thanks for posting the link. Yeah battery life is a concern, but are there any cheap watches that have 4.0? I'm not really interested in spending more.
Also, Negriton, do you have any alternatives you might suggest, with Bluetooth 4.0?

I have purchased twice from Everbuying and it was a bad experience both times.
The last time I had to file a claim with Paypal and it took 6 weeks to get a refund.
They offered a " partial" refund... yea right.... Paypal agreed with me and I eventualy got a forced refund. AVOID THEM AT ALL COSTS.
StuDB said:
Hi all,
Found this smartwatch and it looks pretty nice: *cant post links!* website is mimi-hk. The watch is the MI W3 smartwatch.
This is an update of a watch I can't find much info on, the MI-W2 watch, or the Podoor PW305 (which was updated also to the PW305 II) so if anyone has used them please rate!
It is not Android based, but that doesn't bother me. Android smartwatches run out of power too quickly and obviously I'm going cheap here. It seems it can be used for at least a good few days. The watch face is listed as translucent stays on all the time, which is key for me as I don't see the point in having a smart WATCH that is so smart it doesn't show me the time! Amongst the features, it also has things like: Backlight when you lift your wrist. Apparently IP67 waterproof. Answer calls. Reject calls. Read messages. Send messages (though this is pointless on a small screen). Metal body. Leather strap. It's actually a watch.
I have contacted mimi-hk and they will sell the W3 for £63.48, $102 ($90 + $12 delivery).
Everbuying sell the watch for $88.27 delivered, (£56.87) Has anyone used everbuying before? Would anyone recommend them, or recommend staying away!?
I think this watch looks decent, has all the features I'd need on a companion watch and is a decent price. Does anyone see why I shouldn't go for it?
Thanks!
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standef said:
I have purchased twice from Everbuying and it was a bad experience both times.
The last time I had to file a claim with Paypal and it took 6 weeks to get a refund.
They offered a " partial" refund... yea right.... Paypal agreed with me and I eventualy got a forced refund. AVOID THEM AT ALL COSTS.
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Thanks! Not what I wanted to hear as there is also 8% off at everbuying at the moment, but the right info none the less :good:
Guess if I do go for it, I'll spend the extra £15 and get it from the manufacturer!

StuDB said:
Thanks! Not what I wanted to hear as there is also 8% off at everbuying at the moment, but the right info none the less :good:
Guess if I do go for it, I'll spend the extra £15 and get it from the manufacturer!
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I'm going to get the W3 soon (ordered from the manufacture) when I do I will post a full review.

s7yler said:
I'm going to get the W3 soon (ordered from the manufacture) when I do I will post a full review.
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Awesome stuff! I almost bought the Star Kingleton watch from your review, saw a note on the PW305 then a string of research followed, leading to the W3!
I also found the W2 on a website called Joe's Tech Review, he's supposed to be getting it and doing a review soon too.
I'm mostly interested to find out what this 'translucent' screen is all about.
At £63 it's almost worth the risk (not got heaps of cash here) and I'm getting impatient, good to know people will be reviewing soon!

StuDB said:
Awesome stuff! I almost bought the Star Kingleton watch from your review, saw a note on the PW305 then a string of research followed, leading to the W3!
I also found the W2 on a website called Joe's Tech Review, he's supposed to be getting it and doing a review soon too.
I'm mostly interested to find out what this 'translucent' screen is all about.
At £63 it's almost worth the risk (not got heaps of cash here) and I'm getting impatient, good to know people will be reviewing soon!
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Here my UNBOXING of the MI-W3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcKetu-JIws
Specs can be found on my blog, link is on the description of the video on Youtube.

Hi,
Where did you buy it? I tried to contact Anna at mimi-hk but she told me the shipment fee was 100$.

MI W3 review By JTR1NING
I'm Happy to say that the Mi W3 from MIMI-HK.com has complied with all of its hype. Right out of the box I had a Premium detachable/interchangeable leather band and a alloyed/plastic waterproof smartwatch body. The design isn't as streamlined as the MI W2.It has more of a unisexed square digital look . In the boxes second compartment is the dual USB adaptor and Cable. Then at the very bottom of the box is the users manual that has been created with very detailed photos...even in the chinese writing a person can understand the directions. The Mi w2 feels a little heavier due to the thicker alloy on the front. The MiW3's Front alloy plate is thinner because it serves a Medical apparatus purpose...it, with the assistance of the metal plate on the rear, READS AND MONITORS THE USERS HEART RATE. This was a factor for the new smartwatches to implement. Most of the functions and layout is almost identical to MIW2. The added icons to the menu scroll is the Heart Rate Icon and the (APP) Icon. The gesture protocols are different. The way it is implemented on the MIW3 is as follows.... Goto, then press the Application (app) icon . Locate the Gesture Bright Screen menu..there you will see a new format of adjustable scrolling numbers... (01 to 23) on the left and (1 to 23) on the right. This is the 24hr/military time format. Setting this will make your watch go in total black screen until you shake/wake it up. This new feature along with the new TRANSPARENT screen display helps with battery life. The Transparency of the screen is a very good add on. Many smartwatch/ watch phone users have complained about pressing the button to see the time. With the implement of the gesture protocol, and now the translucency of the screen...always on top time view, the direction is forward not backward. The screen ,when in sleepmode will not respond to touch until activated by button press...THe Gesture Bright control is MOre useful when there is no Ambient light to see the watch screen...thus tilting the watch and the screen comes alive in pitch blackness. SPEAKERS/MICROPHONE : Without dismantling the MIW3 I can say that a different brand of Speaker has been used. The clarity and the distance the user can hear the information/caller from is much better than MOst of the watchphones I've used in the past.The microphone is highly sensitive and the feeling to hold the watch to the mouth is minimum. Removable wristbands are GENUINE LEATHER and standard. If you wanted a different look, just switch/change the wrist strap and your look will be Eye catching.....READ THE ENTIRE REVIEW AT MY SITE joe's tech review on the ning network

Any reliable way to buy this watch?
I do not find any option to buy on their website (mimi-hk). Also a couple of other vendors (everbuying, dealmachine etc.) do not have a very great review online. Any pointer will be highly appreciated.

s7yler - on your blog you didn't mention it has a mic?
I wonder if it is running the Nucleus OS?
It would be good if it can give 4 days battery life.

simple1i said:
s7yler - on your blog you didn't mention it has a mic?
I wonder if it is running the Nucleus OS?
It would be good if it can give 4 days battery life.
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No info on OS that I can find, but OS is very similar to all other budget watches (nucleus style). I'm told by Anna that nromal usage battery is 60 hours. Standby is naturally much longer.. though I want to see the full review to knwo for sure!
You can buy using Paypal from Anna by contacting (I'm waiting for full review to purchase atm) - email address is [email protected]
I also want to by elsewhere as it's cheaper but also am put off by the reviews. Everbuying has 8% off until the end of October, but I have heard to stay away from them!
Hopefully S7yler will release the full review soon.

Any experience with Aliexpress?
I got this link from Anna, but the price is way higher than other portals:
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MI-W2 Smart watch
I just receivced my smart watch (after 3 weeks) and purchased on the gearbest site for only $56.00 + $17.00 S/H from Hong Kong.
I've only had it for a few days but I really like it.
MI-W2 version z2.8
MI-W2 Versatile Smart Bluetooth Watch with Dialer SMS Capabilities Remote Camera Shutter Functions.MI-W2 Versatile
Pros: .
Full cahrge in less than 1 hour
Haven't discharge in over 18 hours
Allows me to receive incoming call, text, email, and calendar notifications on the watch
Can make outgoing calls and send outgoing text messages.
Can add and deleted calendar events (syncs to my gmail account calendar)
Cons:
Unable to understand how to adjust call volume on the watch. I was able to access the engineer mode by pressing *20# to get to the menus and even found the audio section to choose my level. Somehow it gives 6 levels of volume but there is no way change the volume on the watch while in a call

R5 1.54 inch MTK2501 Bluetooth 4.0 Smart Phone Watch for IOS Android

Does anybody have one of these?
http://www.banggood.com/R5-1_54-Blu...Watch-for-IOS-7_0-Above-Andriod-p-957208.html
It looks pretty good value to me.

banggood? or gearbest? I think gearbest is fastest / better service??

I'm waiting for mine to arrive from Banggood.

TylerDurdenK said:
I'm waiting for mine to arrive from Banggood.
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great. just let me know and write a review here in case people want to buy it. thanks in advance. happy holidays!!!!:fingers-crossed:

I am waiting one from Banggood also. Orderes on 11th this month. Shipped only on 19th this month. That's strange or might be not - it is Christmas time. Got tracking number but system not showing it yet. :crying:

Barcors said:
I am waiting one from Banggood also. Orderes on 11th this month. Shipped only on 19th this month. That's strange or might be not - it is Christmas time. Got tracking number but system not showing it yet. :crying:
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Mine apparently shipped from the warehouse on the 14th, and the Post Office dealt with it on the 17th (I only know this after badgering them on LIVE CHAT) but my tracking number is still not working. Apparently it can take a week after the Post Office have dealt with it for the tracking number to start working!

TylerDurdenK said:
Mine apparently shipped from the warehouse on the 14th, and the Post Office dealt with it on the 17th (I only know this after badgering them on LIVE CHAT) but my tracking number is still not working. Apparently it can take a week after the Post Office have dealt with it for the tracking number to start working!
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It can take longer, my tracking did not activate until it arrived at local post office, came from the Netherlands.

Has anybody actually got there hands on one of these yet?

Mine hasn't arrived yet.

Aron_H said:
Has anybody actually got there hands on one of these yet?
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Yes I got it yesterday. And i am so disappointed. Disappointed because there is NO heart rate monitor at all! This option was the main reason why i decided to take it. Bluetooth connection between watch and sgn2 is dropping after few minutes. Both software - on watch and on phone is piece of s...! Only 2 watch faces: analog and digital.
This morning battery is already empty.
Screen looks good enough. Responsive touch. Clock i see is acurate. If it is true - it is sinchronysing with phone. There is simple control of media player: play stop forward backward and volume. It plays music directly on the watch. Sound is... listening at night when you are sleeping is more or less enough. There is no option to play music on phone.
I did not find how to control camera i couldn't take any picture. It looks like they payed attention to design of the watch - it looks good but else is left.

Barcors said:
Yes I got it yesterday. And i am so disappointed. Disappointed because there is NO heart rate monitor at all! This option was the main reason why i decided to take it. Bluetooth connection between watch and sgn2 is dropping after few minutes. Both software - on watch and on phone is piece of s...! Only 2 watch faces: analog and digital.
This morning battery is already empty.
Screen looks good enough. Responsive touch. Clock i see is acurate. If it is true - it is sinchronysing with phone. There is simple control of media player: play stop forward backward and volume. It plays music directly on the watch. Sound is... listening at night when you are sleeping is more or less enough. There is no option to play music on phone.
I did not find how to control camera i couldn't take any picture. It looks like they payed attention to design of the watch - it looks good but else is left.
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very useful review, thanks! So u recommend us not to buy it? And can u maybe take some photos of it [also wearing it] and place on XDA?? that would be great:good:

Rene_ajax said:
very useful review, thanks! So u recommend us not to buy it? And can u maybe take some photos of it [also wearing it] and place on XDA?? that would be great:good:
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No I didn't say like that. It is more or less worth that money. I just bought not that one I wanted. I have read as much as i could find on internet about that watch. And a lot of places i have found info that this watch have heart rate monitor but in reality NOT. I cant figure it out how it happened. On the seller listing there were pictures showing like it is but not mentioned in the specification. So i can blame only myself for not clearing this question before bidding.
Later on i will post a few pics if you want.
And sorry for my English. I am doing my best.

Tell me please if you can see those pictures here:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wcpa43ietvredco/AAAGpI1HZKoo6tipl7xEVQgZa?dl=0

Barcors said:
Yes I got it yesterday. And i am so disappointed. Disappointed because there is NO heart rate monitor at all! This option was the main reason why i decided to take it. Bluetooth connection between watch and sgn2 is dropping after few minutes. Both software - on watch and on phone is piece of s...! Only 2 watch faces: analog and digital.
This morning battery is already empty.
Screen looks good enough. Responsive touch. Clock i see is acurate. If it is true - it is sinchronysing with phone. There is simple control of media player: play stop forward backward and volume. It plays music directly on the watch. Sound is... listening at night when you are sleeping is more or less enough. There is no option to play music on phone.
I did not find how to control camera i couldn't take any picture. It looks like they payed attention to design of the watch - it looks good but else is left.
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I am sorry to hear this device is not what we probably all hoped for!! If it had remote camera working it would be worth me buying one. I do thank you for saving me the time,money and disappointment Sir.

Remote camera is working. I found finaly how it works.

I was wondering how can we use this smartwatch. I mean, what are the possibilities for it? Can I read incoming whatsapp on it? Mails?
That should be useful for me. Thanks!

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Remote camera is working. I found finaly how it works.
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Oh well maybe things are looking up for this device after all
Thank you for the pictures!

I found myself started enjoying this smartwatch after these few days using. It is a lot of difficulties to set up this guy but now i believe it cad do his job. Just sad there is no heart rate monitor on it. Let see how it goes further ...

Barcors said:
I found myself started enjoying this smartwatch after these few days using. It is a lot of difficulties to set up this guy but now i believe it cad do his job. Just sad there is no heart rate monitor on it. Let see how it goes further ...
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thaNKS FOR YOUR INPUT. I can see the photos dont delete them cuz I also want to buy this watch.
how does it wear, comfortably or not?
and does it have a camera on the top of the watch, or what is that supposed to be?

Rene_ajax said:
thaNKS FOR YOUR INPUT. I can see the photos dont delete them cuz I also want to buy this watch.
how does it wear, comfortably or not?
and does it have a camera on the top of the watch, or what is that supposed to be?
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It wears comfortably enough. And it is not so big like it looks. Silicon band is somewhere in the middle - not so hard and not so elastic. I have no problems with band. I have ordered gold color but I don't know... it looks for me like bronze, not polished or shiny.
Camera - NO there is NO camera on the board. That small window on the top of the watch is that what have tricked me. I was thinking that there is heart rate monitor but its not. There is NO nothing at all. I disassembled this watch and I am pretty sure.
One more thing. Yesterday I decided to try with another ROM on my SGN2. Installed "Android Revolution HD 31.0". Now I can tell that connection between SGN2 and this watch is much better than it was with Slim Colorz. During this day there were no interruption with watch.

X2 Smartwatch from IQI

Hi I am new here.
Your efforts to prevent spam are causing me to spam.... I have information but it wont let me post it so here goes.
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vanionbb said:
Hi I am new here.
Your efforts to prevent spam are causing me to spam.... I have information but it wont let me post links it so here comes the unintentional spam.
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Every four minutes really...
I am an electrical engineer, with 9 years experience in the field of PCB layout, design, and programming.
I have information to share which is valuable to this community. I guess I will share it in a few days when its relevance has diminished.

vanionbb said:
Every four minutes really...
I am an electrical engineer, with 9 years experience in the field of PCB layout, design, and programming.
I have information to share which is valuable to this community. I guess I will share it in a few days when its relevance has diminished.
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Here is my third post, yay, 7 to go before I can get to my point!

vanionbb said:
Here is my third post, yay, 7 to go before I can get to my point!
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You can guess my point though if you search the title of this thread. There is a youtube video which I will link in 6 posts which I find fascinating.
This smart watch has android, is inexpensive, has a pulse monitor, and "e-ink" screen. I wanted to know if it is any good. It has the same cpu as the SmartQ Z1 but is much thinner 9.5 mm.
Thoughts?

No SIM or WiFi, 320mAh battery. Android 4.2.
I'm sure it's a good piece for those that prefer notifies. I guess someone will have to buy it and test it.

simple1i said:
No SIM or WiFi, 320mAh battery. Android 4.2.
I'm sure it's a good piece for those that prefer notifies. I guess someone will have to buy it and test it.
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Yeah no SIM sucks, or WiFi, no Compass, no GPS. But it does have Bluetooth 4.0/2.0 whatever that is... anyone know if that is a mistranslated 4.2?
That is a small battery true 320mAh but that possibly leads to the lighter weight, lower height of the watch which is 9.5mm thick.
It does have Android 4.3 actually, and it uses the same cpu as the SmartQ Z1 which is already ported. It only has 512 megs rom and 512 megs ram, which will be a problem for adding apps, that right there is almost enough to kill it.
The big thing it does have is.
Pulse Monitor
E-Ink Background, it switches between e-ink and TFT seamlessly, there is a youtube video that makes me want to buy this watch.
Run time is 7 days on paper, while displaying time 100% of the time using e-ink (very cool)
It has android so it can be upgraded at some point by the ppl in this forum!!!
If there is something similar / better out there for the same money let me know before I buy this one! I am leaning toward this one mainly because it is so thin, its actually thinner than the apple watch (10.5mm)

vanionbb said:
Yeah no SIM sucks, or WiFi, no Compass, no GPS. But it does have Bluetooth 4.0/2.0 whatever that is... anyone know if that is a mistranslated 4.2?
That is a small battery true 320mAh but that possibly leads to the lighter weight, lower height of the watch which is 9.5mm thick.
It does have Android 4.3 actually, and it uses the same cpu as the SmartQ Z1 which is already ported. It only has 512 megs rom and 512 megs ram, which will be a problem for adding apps, that right there is almost enough to kill it.
The big thing it does have is.
Pulse Monitor
E-Ink Background, it switches between e-ink and TFT seamlessly, there is a youtube video that makes me want to buy this watch.
Run time is 7 days on paper, while displaying time 100% of the time using e-ink (very cool)
It has android so it can be upgraded at some point by the ppl in this forum!!!
If there is something similar / better out there for the same money let me know before I buy this one! I am leaning toward this one mainly because it is so thin, its actually thinner than the apple watch (10.5mm)
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So, there is the Reedone X1 which is interesting but does not have the low power e-ink TFT thing going for it. I like the specs but dont like the 11mm thickness and lack of e-ink TFT.
Reedone website shows the Reedone X2 (there would be a link here, but you have to find it yourself because reasons!) The Reedone X2 is the same watch as the X2 Smartwatch from IQI, with same pictures and stats.

vanionbb said:
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So, there is the Reedone X1 which is interesting but does not have the low power e-ink TFT thing going for it. I like the specs but dont like the 11mm thickness and lack of e-ink TFT.
Reedone website shows the Reedone X2 (there would be a link here, but you have to find it yourself because reasons!) The Reedone X2 is the same watch as the X2 Smartwatch from IQI, with same pictures and stats.
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Does anyone have a recommendation for a smart watch then?

This looks the same as GearBest are selling as Atongm WO13 http://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/pp_166847.html and has the same display as he MiMi Mi-W3/Podoor PW305II http://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/pp_139964.html
I looked at this a few weeks ago but could see no advantages over the Mi-W3 I already own plus the following disadvantages:
Not waterproof - the MiMi is IP67 rated.
Much larger in height.
Proprietary charging cradle - what is the point when it isn't waterproof and uses exposed electrodes? Just something else to lose or break.
Edited to add: The BT 4.0/2.0 is because it uses a dual module that connects with either 2.0 or 4.0 protocols dependent on the device it is connecting to.

Pseud O'Nym said:
This looks the same as GearBest are selling as Atongm WO13 http://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/pp_166847.html and has the same display as he MiMi Mi-W3/Podoor PW305II http://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/pp_139964.html
I looked at this a few weeks ago but could see no advantages over the Mi-W3 I already own plus the following disadvantages:
Not waterproof - the MiMi is IP67 rated.
Much larger in height.
Proprietary charging cradle - what is the point when it isn't waterproof and uses exposed electrodes? Just something else to lose or break.
Edited to add: The BT 4.0/2.0 is because it uses a dual module that connects with either 2.0 or 4.0 protocols dependent on the device it is connecting to.
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I have been researching this over the past day.
It appears to be sold under 3 different brands
As Antogm W013 through gearbest,, geekbuying, lightinthebox, everbuying/dealsmachine, coolicool/efoxshop, Ebay and Aliexpress - but no stainless version
As IQI X2 on Aliexpress
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Newe...32324780280.html?spm=2114.32010308.4.2.tnhc0X
As Simptech X2 on Lightinthebox and Aliexpress -
http://www.lightinthebox.com/simpte...kers-waterproof-for-andriod-ios_p2863209.html
Cheapest I found was mobile version of aliexpress for $72 (simptech version)
http://m.aliexpress.com/item/32334308627.html?spm=2114.32010308.0.47.u2PDkj
There are two videos on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2-_uypACBw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJO-_JkKDGc
Wish someone had this, close to pulling the trigger, but I don't know whether just to not get an android based watch and get the new No 1 S2 (Sun).

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Wish someone had this, close to pulling the trigger, but I don't know whether just to not get an android based watch and get the new No 1 S2 (Sun).
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I don't believe it is Android based, apart from the splash screen there is nothing in the videos or adverts to suggest that it is. As it uses an Ingenics XBurst CPU I would guess it uses a version of their MIPS compiled Linux.

Although on Pandawill and Geekbuying, it clearly states Android 4.3 as the OS. Also, didn't the smart Q run on the same JZ4775 chip and run Android? i'll check with all the china shops tommorow and see what they say about the OS.

LightInTheBox says Android too, I was just going on the videos and screenshots, neither of which look like any Android I've seen, but of course it could be heavily customised.

Read the reviews of the NO.1 G2. Doesn't sound like a good buy. I'd definitely wait to see what the S7ler or others reviews have to say about the Sun.

maybe they mean it's compatible with android, not running it as an os?

JarlSX said:
maybe they mean it's compatible with android, not running it as an os?
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Thats what I'm thinking. I'll check with them both later today and see.

sambutler86 said:
I have been researching this over the past day.
It appears to be sold under 3 different brands
As Antogm W013 through gearbest,, geekbuying, lightinthebox, everbuying/dealsmachine, coolicool/efoxshop, Ebay and Aliexpress - but no stainless version
As IQI X2 on Aliexpress
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Newe...32324780280.html?spm=2114.32010308.4.2.tnhc0X
As Simptech X2 on Lightinthebox and Aliexpress -
http://www.lightinthebox.com/simpte...kers-waterproof-for-andriod-ios_p2863209.html
Cheapest I found was mobile version of aliexpress for $72 (simptech version)
http://m.aliexpress.com/item/32334308627.html?spm=2114.32010308.0.47.u2PDkj
There are two videos on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2-_uypACBw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJO-_JkKDGc
Wish someone had this, close to pulling the trigger, but I don't know whether just to not get an android based watch and get the new No 1 S2 (Sun).
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I saw a video of the No. 1 S2 and the screen goes to the edges and beyond. I saw lettering go past the screen, which looks glitchy. I was tempted because of how slick it looks but they didn't do any work on switching the square scene to a round screen.

JarlSX said:
maybe they mean it's compatible with android, not running it as an os?
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Geekbuying claims it has Android 4.3 on it....but still not 100% convinced.

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parrotgeek1 said:
Yes, It does. that video shows the Android boot animation, plus Android is the only OS JZ4775 supports.
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I am torn between this one and the Reedone HG-X1.
ISI X2 :
72.08 - Lowest Price
TFT Screen, Heart Rate Monitor, Pedometer, etc...
Reedone HG-X1:
80.99 - Lowest Price (black plastic?) at
Same as ISI X2
+GPS
+Waterproof
+Built in USB Connector
- 1mm thicker at dial
They are very similar. I have not seen a video on the Reedone yet though.
Any thoughts on these? Do they actually run Android? Would android gear be portable to these?

Anyone pre-order the Misfit Vapor?

It looks really cool, Amazon keeps having these flash sales on Amazon for $151. Right now you can pre-order it for $199 on their site. What do you guys think of it? Any-one get theirs yet?
https://misfit.com/products/misfit-vapor

I'm interested in hearing from anyone who ordered one/has one as well. Honestly, I'm stunned that a non-flat-tire, not ginormous, waterproof, android wear 2.0 smartwatch with a touch bezel is not getting more notice/media coverage.
It's like all the big review sites said, "Yeah, it's available on the 31st....so what. We had to wait for it too long, so we don't care". It's rather crazy in my mind. There are a few old reviews I can find (when the watch still ran the proprietary OS) but as far as I can find, there are no current reviews with the watch running AW 2.0. Why!?
I really hope some proud new owners chime in and let us know how the watch performs running AW, and some details on real-world use.

The only one that I've seen receive their's is this person. For $199 new, that's pretty good isn't it? A refurb Huawei watch one would cost me $150 at least.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MisfitVapor/comments/7ak9e0/i_received_my_vapor_and_am_willing_answer_any/

Oh, sweet! Good thread there with some pretty good initial info on the watch. Thanks for sharing the link.

Hi I just recieved mine last night and I am now looking around on the web for info/help with it. Ill give my first impressions of it here, Id like to be able to share my thoughts with Misfit so maybe they can take the feedback and improve it.
First off I am a formar Fitbit Surge user and liked it for the fitness attributes it had, before ordering the Vapor I bought a CHEAP $40 Kingware KW18 watch from China to see if id be ok wearing a larger watch such as these are. It had many short commings but also did some cool things.
First impression is the watch is well made and it has a great interface, I really like the touch navigation around the bezel.
Now for what I dont like about it:
- Heart rate monitor has to be manually activated each time and just does a short test. I want to have it on all the time and have the data graphed in the app, I understand that probably is a battery drainer but how about being able to turn it on during workouts so I know what my peak heart rate was riding my cycle up a huge hill for instance.
- Phone call answering - It lets you see an incomming call and decide to hang up or answer it from the watch, but if you answer it from the watch the call actually goes to the phone. You should be able to see the call and if your phone is handy answer it on the phone or if its not (say phone is in my pocket and i am driving) answer it on the watch and talk to the person through the watch as a speaker phone. THe cheap KW18 can do this.
- Displaying of info on the watch face - Id like to be able to select what info is displayed on the watchface, such as steps or calories burned. Seams simple enough, Fitbits, Garmins both can do this and is an expection for most people of a fitness watch.
- Sleep monitor, so I could be missing something when I set it up for this but when I synced it this morning it said I got zero sleep, gee I didnt feel that I got no sleep, I am tired but I did sleep some... If it cannot sense I am in a restful position on its on I hope it doesnt expect me to select something in the watch to say Im now sleeping....
- Charger - It is a non intrusive connection held onto watch with a magnet which is great but it doesnt stay on well at all. The cheap KW18 has a much better charger cable/interface.
- Misfit App - THis is on me as I could have downloaded this before hand and checked it out but basically it is pretty useless. Has very little info in it, does not food/water tracking and has no graphing ability that I could see. Will need to use the watch for a while to see if once there is data it then has graphs available with your daily/weekly/monthly activity...
Sorry to sound negitive but they tout it as a refined fitness watch but fitness is low on their prioritys from what I can see.
~ Phil

mpilihp said:
- Displaying of info on the watch face - Id like to be able to select what info is displayed on the watchface, such as steps or calories burned. Seams simple enough, Fitbits, Garmins both can do this and is an expection for most people of a fitness watch.
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You can change the default watch face info at bottom of screen. Go to change face screen and click settings icon and you can change the 3 icons from in there to link to any app on watch incl Google Fit for steps, calories etc

dpjohnston said:
You can change the default watch face info at bottom of screen. Go to change face screen and click settings icon and you can change the 3 icons from in there to link to any app on watch incl Google Fit for steps, calories etc
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Hi thanks I did manage to figure that out, a user manual would be nice. It still is not very accurate on the step counting and it isn't tracking sleep at all either.
~ Phil

I have a few to sell if anyone is interested

So update on my Vapor i was told by tech support it does not do sleep tracking at all and heart rate monitoring is a snapshot only when you trigger it.
Have no idea how they can tout the Vapor let alone Misfit as fitness focused.
Im sending mine back and looking at the Garmin vivoactive 3 or the Samsung S2.
Phil
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