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Torn between this and the Nexus!

I know I can't be the only one out there. I'm just really unsure about the Note's size... I'm a tall guy, with big hands, but its just seems that bit too big?
Mind you, I've been using my Tab 7.0 as a phone for a good 3 weeks!
Is it really usable with one hand? By that I mean, can I fire off a quick text with one hand? If its a yes, I'll order it now!
Thanks for anything useful you have to say!

I'm in the same situation like you!
I'm currently with AT&T at the moment, wondering if I should sell my iPhone 4S (only reason I got it was because of its high resale value) to buy a Note to use, or wait until the Nexus comes to Verizon and sell my iPhone and use that money for the Nexus.
I really like the size of the Note and would love to use it during school, but I kind of want to see how the Nexus looks in real life first before making my decision.
I would also rather be on Verizon's network to be honest, with it's double data promotion helping its case even more.

Im thinking I may just go for the nexus now, I've not had a pure android yet (from stock) and it looks fluid as anything! IMO Touchwiz slows down Android (I own both the Tab and original Galaxy S).
Still can't seem to click buy on either though!

Let me just say that I had the same concerns, so much so that I was determined to wait until I played with the Note before ordering it. I went ahead and took the chance and I am VERY pleased. The phone does not feel nearly as big as you might thing. I think it is very comfortable to use, fits in all my pockets, and is an absolute pleasure to have. I guarantee you will not regret buying the Note. Just read the other reviews.

pscampbell said:
Let me just say that I had the same concerns, so much so that I was determined to wait until I played with the Note before ordering it. I went ahead and took the chance and I am VERY pleased. The phone does not feel nearly as big as you might thing. I think it is very comfortable to use, fits in all my pockets, and is an absolute pleasure to have. I guarantee you will not regret buying the Note. Just read the other reviews.
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I'm not worried about pockets, my 7.0 tab fits in my pockets! I just thought.... If I buy this I can sell my Tab and put that towards this, as it'll replace it anyway!
I'll sell my tab on eBay me thinks!
EDIT: Tab in the marketplace, once thats sold, I will be buying note. Just found out that Nexus uses a poor GPU. I know its twice the speed of Galaxy S, but I'd rather have samsungs latest chip!

I just ordered a white Note from eBay. The way I look at it, an Aosp ICS rom will come eventually. Then you have the option be it Aosp, MIUI, or Touchwiz. And if one doesn't come fast enough, use the Note then sell it when the Nexus is available to you. I have an HTC right now and I switch between Aosp and Sense and its nice to have the choice.
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Here are a couple of Nexus deal breakers for me.
Only 16GB of storage, on my 16GB Note only 11GB is usable, the rest are reserved for OS and apps. This limit my music files to 128 kbps and with 1GB of storage left. Also the 32GB Nexus is not available yet, and I'm not sure I want to pay premium price for a 16GB upgrade when 32GB micro sd card are around £40.
The 16:9 screen makes the phone easier to hold but awkward when browsing the web in portrait mode.
Also the processor and graphic chip are weaker than the Note, so not the best phone out there for future proof.
The only selling point of Nexus compared to the Note is ICS, which will be on the Note either from Samsung or developers. After almost two weeks of using the Note, I found the performance very smooth, so not in a hurry to upgrade to ICS.
Unless you really want an ICS device, I'd get the Note. I'm sure you will happier with the Note few months down the line when both devices have ICS.
P.S. Typing with one hand is awkward at best, and you are risking drop the phone while doing it.

Bigmille said:
Here are a couple of Nexus deal breakers for me.
Only 16GB of storage, on my 16GB Note only 11GB is usable, the rest are reserved for OS and apps. This limit my music files to 128 kbps and with 1GB of storage left. Also the 32GB Nexus is not available yet, and I'm not sure I want to pay premium price for a 16GB upgrade when 32GB micro sd card are around £40.
The 16:9 screen makes the phone easier to hold but awkward when browsing the web in portrait mode.
Also the processor and graphic chip are weaker than the Note, so not the best phone out there for future proof.
The only selling point of Nexus compared to the Note is ICS, which will be on the Note either from Samsung or developers. After almost two weeks of using the Note, I found the performance very smooth, so not in a hurry to upgrade to ICS.
Unless you really want an ICS device, I'd get the Note. I'm sure you will happier with the Note few months down the line when both devices have ICS.
P.S. Typing with one hand is awkward at best, and you are risking drop the phone while doing it.
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You couldn't have summed it up any better! I'll probably order of Amazon.de tomorrow morn.

Portability
This device is more portable than a tab.
Think of it not as a phone, or a tab, but an XDA(convergent digital assistant)
I would not even consider a tab (or a laptop).
I have a workstation, and an XDA.
Have so for nearly 10 years.
The note is particularly portable and useful.

khsbenny said:
You couldn't have summed it up any better! I'll probably order of Amazon.de tomorrow morn.
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You are welcome, Amazon.de normally ship the phone out the next working day and it will take two more days for delivery via CityLink.
Also CityLink web tracking might tell you the phone will arrive the next working day after Amazon has shipped the Note. Don't belive them and don't panic when the tracking don't get updated for the 1st 24hrs.

Xaddict said:
This device is more portable than a tab.
Think of it not as a phone, or a tab, but an XDA(convergent digital assistant)
I would not even consider a tab (or a laptop).
I have a workstation, and an XDA.
Have so for nearly 10 years.
The note is particularly portable and useful.
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I'm looking forward to a stylus! As much as Jobs hated them, you can't beat them for accuracy. Web browsing was easier on my 2.8" screen on my HTC Diamond thanks to a stylus!

I was thinking of getting the nexus too but no sd card slot is poo, but I will be getting the note as soon it's available in white in the uk
Anyone know of any UK sites selling white ones?

ik911 said:
I was thinking of getting the nexus too but no sd card slot is poo, but I will be getting the note as soon it's available in white in the uk
Anyone know of any UK sites selling white ones?
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I'd be interested in that too.
Although unless its >£500 I'll stick with black.

khsbenny said:
I'd be interested in that too.
Although unless its >£500 I'll stick with black.
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All I found is this £539.99 with no date http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/5864/samsung-galaxy-note--16gb--sim-free-unlocked--white-

ik911 said:
All I found is this £539.99 with no date http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/5864/samsung-galaxy-note--16gb--sim-free-unlocked--white-
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I suppose I could claim the VAT back.... If its not in the next few days I might have to give the white one a miss

I'm in the same boat as you. I've been mulling over this decision for about 2 weeks at least
Here's my pros and cons, and these are too me, a US AT&T user still in contract:
Note Pros:
- Screen
- CPU
- Battery
- Staying with AT&T
Cons:
- Importing and Warranty
- No ICS yet. This is big as it looks like exchange support is greatly improved there, and I'd like to ditch Touchdown
I don't consider the stylus much of a pro personally - I don't think I'll use it
Nexus Pros:
- Vanilla ICS
- NFC
- LTE sim swap with my Xoom (this is kinda minor, as WiFi hotspot is basically the same except that I can conserve my phone's battery if I were to go on a road trip)
- Better dev and app support because it will be more popular
Nexus Cons:
- very worried about battery life with LTE. I'd hope to go data only too, so I'd have GooVe IP signed in all the time.
- smaller screen, though it might be OK as I've had a Dell Streak and so many apps don't deal with gigantic screens very well.
- maybe slightly worse camera from my investigations
I probably should just buy the Note and be done with it, but I want to see what Verizon's off contract price is. if it's $600 that's hard to then justify getting a Note for around $750 I think. $650-700 will be a note autobuy I think... then again my ETF would be around $150, but going data only will save in the long run, but not sure if I can reliably recieve calls on GrooVe IP... meh... decisions.

There IS a simple solution........... JUST GET BOTH !!!
It is what I am doing....... can't help myself

Nothing touches Galaxy Note on the market IMO. Engadget just did a hands-on test of the Galaxy Nexus and here's something they mention in their article:
It's still too early to comment on battery life, but so far we're not seeing any issues. While the Nexus feels quite snappy it isn't as mind bendingly fast as some Gingerbread devices (the Galaxy Note comes to mind)
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The Note is a superior platform--bigger display, S-pen functionality, faster CPU, faster GPU. Why would anyone outside a developer want a Nexus? ICS is coming to our phone so there's no advantage there. People argue Touchwiz adds a layer of lag and I disagree, my phone with 2.3.6 gingerbread is lightning fast and I never see any lag.

where can I get the 2.3.6 version? I tried to update my phone but it said my phone was all updated.

5150Joker said:
Nothing touches Galaxy Note on the market IMO. Engadget just did a hands-on test of the Galaxy Nexus and here's something they mention in their article:
The Note is a superior platform--bigger display, S-pen functionality, faster CPU, faster GPU. Why would anyone outside a developer want a Nexus? ICS is coming to our phone so there's no advantage there. People argue Touchwiz adds a layer of lag and I disagree, my phone with 2.3.6 gingerbread is lightning fast and I never see any lag.
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Agree with everything you said. I've been doing my research on both since I had been going back and forth on what phone I really wanted and even went with just the AT&T GS2 for a few days but in the end both the GS2 and Nexus both are inferior devices to what the Note offers and outside of getting ICS early I can't see any reason to buy the Nexus unless you just need a smaller phone. I'd rather wait and get ICS shortly down the road than to get it a few weeks earlier on lesser hardware.

[Q] Worth returning S2X for Nexus 4?

Hey guys, glad to finally be on the forum (I've spent a loooong time reading but never posting ).
Here's my issue: Recently I bought a Galaxy S2X with Koodo on a tab plan, and so far I am loving the phone. However, recent news of the Nexus 4 has gotten my attention. Koodo has a 14-day money back guarantee on all their phones, and I bought the phone on Sunday past (the 28th) so I still have some time to return it. My question is, is the Nexus 4 a better phone? Because I can buy the S2X outright from Koodo for $300, and the Nexus is similarly priced. Is it worth returning the Galaxy, being phoneless for two weeks, and then getting the Nexus? I know nobody has had hands on experience, so it's gonna be hard to tell. I wish I could wait for some reviews to pop up about the Nexus 4, but I can't wait that long, a phone is essential (obviously).
What do you guys think?
Cheers, Tristan.

You can watch reviews of the optimus g, as they have the same screen,without the buttons, and spec sheet.
If your into androud development, have a phone to use during the 2 week wait, liker being on the latest android version, and don't like the touchwiz overlay do it because it is a beast.
If you're happy using your s2x, and like the way it is keep it, its a good phone too, and the 2 weeks without a phone would be horrible. If you want the $299 one it will have 8gb of storage, so if your used to the 16gb and expandable storage in the s2x don't.

I also own S II X from Telus myself. I am getting Nexus 4 for one of my family members to replace HD2 I guess it all depends your need and price you pay for it. No doubt Nexus 4 ' s price is very attractive. However I think S II X for 300 is also a good price.
If you do not mind the none-removable battery and no sd slot then you will love Nexus 4 no doubt. I currently have 2 spare batteries that I use in rotation for my S II X because android phones do drain quite fast and I want to save time connecting charger to my phone directly because phone has to be connected while charging. I am on the move alot. I also like having large collection of videos and music on my phone even though I can take advatange of true unlimited data plan to use cloud storage. ( I used over 10 gb last month, no throtlling and no cap).
I just gotta have battery option and sd card slot but its just me. It may not matter for you.
So I guess it's all up to your preference.

Thanks guys. I think I'll probably return the S2x and wait for the nexus, it looks snazzy and also Jelly bean looks good too.

I recently bought a HTC One X quad. am i'm returning it and waiting for the Nexus 4. I wondered why Google don't make micro sd slot and/or add 32 GB? I would certainly pay more for it.

imeem said:
I recently bought a HTC One X quad. am i'm returning it and waiting for the Nexus 4. I wondered why Google don't make micro sd slot and/or add 32 GB? I would certainly pay more for it.
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My only possible thought is maybe it was an agreement with LG. After all, the Nexus 4, for the price, is superior in many ways, so there has to be SOME incentive to get the optimus G. That's my two cents!

Interesting to see how few threads there are here

Only three so far, 2 of which are default. Is this going to be worse than the att Note 4 threads? Does it represent the basic apathy Samsung has induced?
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It means Samsung really screwed up

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It means Samsung really screwed up
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I think the problem is that they are flooding the market with too many similar devices. The group of people that this phone would appeal to recently bought the smaller model and can not upgrade yet. Luckily for me I am in my buyers remorse period. I am still not sure that I will buy this over the note 5.

i have galaxy s6 edge. i have family plan, i have upgrade available. There is NO "must-have" features that people want to buy this phone. where is the freaking usb 3.1 type c ? Since the screen is big like note4, why cant it displays Main and Edge screen at the same time like Note4 ?

so many ways samsung have messed up
1. Alienating buyers who buy a flagship - then a few weeks later another model comes out
2. prices
3. people want a sd card and bigger battery - and people wont mind extra thickness or better battery life
4. Competition - from other makers eg huawei -who do put in sd cards and decent batteries, and for the prices their
performance is more than decent. for a while notes strenght was the screen size but now others make big screens, AMOLED is not a USP
5. samsung getting cocky by thinking they have created a brand "note" and people will just go buy it....guess what samsung you arent apple!
6. no killer features eg motorola are putting in good batteries and good prices ...

i was upgrading phones yearly ever since the S2, all the way to S5, then the Note 4 last year, but don't think i'm gonna do it this year. i was really hoping they'd put the s pen on the edge+, but they had to separate them. i'm ok with no removable battery, I've had one on the note 4 ever since day one, but never really used it. i can live with no micro sd slot as well, but only if the 64gb version were less expensive, now the regular edge seems like a big bargain @ $750 for the 128gb (-$200 from T-Mobile). guess i'll have to wait until the note 6.

I think the biggest factors are Samsung divide the community with two phablets, there are some awesome phones coming out next month or so by google, and those with AT&T and Verizon learned a hard lesson with the note 4. Which is still yet to obtain permanent root ever...
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ekerbuddyeker said:
Only three so far, 2 of which are default. Is this going to be worse than the att Note 4 threads? Does it represent the basic apathy Samsung has induced?
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Samsung is not screwd up totally but its going be scrwed.

I think the biggest factor is that very few people have the phone yet.

Maybe it's because all of us Samsung Galaxy S6 Non-Edge users are afraid to post for fear we're in the wrong place!

Umm. Phone is Couple days old.

[DISCUSSION] Should I Jump Ship?

I've had my Galaxy Note 4 for a while now and I'm starting to look at a few of the new flagships for 2016. The Google Nexus 6P looks very promising to have and looks like a great device overall. There's also the HTC 10 which will be released soon which also looks promising and will get plenty of development I assume.
Would anyone care to share your story? Should I purchase a Google Nexus 6P or wait for this years line up?
If you want to convince me to stay on the Note 4 I encourage you.
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Dude it's up to you
Come get me donald trump

I am personally not leaving my Note 4 until it dies, or if the Note 6 brings back all the features I love that the Note5 **** on. I actually upgraded to the Note 5 and after 2 months decided it was not usable for me so I got a Note 4.
I personally can't live without 4 things the Note 4 has the Note 5 doesn't:
removable battery (Every phone I have owned in the past few years has been run with the ZeroLemon extended battery and rugged case)
MicroSD card slot (makes switching ROMs so much easier, I am a flashaholic)
IR Blaster (this one isn't as big as the other 2, but is still sooo nice to have and I see no reason any phone shouldn't have it)
Custom ROMs (The Note 5 being an Exynox only phone has not gotten any custom AOSP based ROMs yet, only stock based ROMs. Now, some of those ROMs are awesome, and even on my Note 4 I only run stock based ROMs because the AOSP ROMs don't work well enough with the SPen, but it is really nice to have the choice)
I would not buy the Nexus 6P, overall it looks like a good phone, but I am not the most gentle person with my phones, haven't broken one in a few years but I tend to drop them quite a bit and the 6P has some serious structural issues. Look up Jerryrigeverything's stress test video of the 6P on youtube. Huge disappointment for a Nexus device, and at that price.
I am confident the Note 6 will be too similar to the S7, no removable battery, possibly no IR blaster, it will probably have a similar style MicroSD card slot, but if it sucks like the S7 does, especially with the same style locked bootloader I will not be upgrading. The Note 4 is still an awesome phone, and we should be getting official MM within the next few weeks.

MisterCoolBeans said:
I've had my Galaxy Note 4 for a while now and I'm starting to look at a few of the new flagships for 2016. The Google Nexus 6P looks very promising to have and looks like a great device overall. There's also the HTC 10 which will be released soon which also looks promising and will get plenty of development I assume.
Would anyone care to share your story? Should I purchase a Google Nexus 6P or wait for this years line up?
If you want to convince me to stay on the Note 4 I encourage you.
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Wait for the One Plus 3. I'm keeping also my note 4 until it dies. Still a very good and reliable device for me.

Thank you guys for your responses!
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Mr. Clown said:
Wait for the One Plus 3. I'm keeping also my note 4 until it dies. Still a very good and reliable device for me.
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I update phones every year but since I considered the Note 5 a downgrade, I upgraded my Note 4 with another Note 4. I am no longer in the business if updating for the sake of updating. If the Note 6 doesn't bring back the SD card and IR blaster and be rootable [must have Viper4Android], I'll buy another Note 4. Samsung hit the sweet spot with the 4.

I used to update my phone all the time. But ever since Sammy turned its back on our community by locking the bootloaders (yeah yeah I'm sure it's the carriers fault don't care) I'll be sticking with my tmo note 4 running on att network. Note 6 looks cool but I need root and want the option to run custom roms. That and I need superior camera and for me note 4 is it. The new modular HTC phone looks interesting.

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Wait for the One Plus 3. I'm keeping also my note 4 until it dies. Still a very good and reliable device for me.
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Is there really a OP3 in the making? The OP2 seems to have less of what was in the OPO

Just this morning I read an article on ArsTechnica (and as I glance to the right, apparently there's one to check out on the XDA Portal as well) on the next Nexus devices, reportedly to be built by HTC. I'd be pretty interested to see what those have to offer before upgrading my (still solid - the N4 is one device that I plan to keep rather than sell) phone. The 6P looks nice, but I'd be unwilling to sacrifice expandable storage... I'm hopeful that Google will allow(?) an SD slot in these upcoming devices due to N's new storage scheme.
Good luck whatever you decide!

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Is there really a OP3 in the making? The OP2 seems to have less of what was in the OPO
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Yes and it will be a good option tat it will not break the bank like the samsung phones. I'm considering to sell my note 4 and get me this beauty.
http://bgr.com/2016/04/26/oneplus-3-release-date-price/

Mr. Clown said:
Yes and it will be a good option tat it will not break the bank like the samsung phones. I'm considering to sell my note 4 and get me this beauty.
http://bgr.com/2016/04/26/oneplus-3-release-date-price/
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If these rumors are true I'll definitely hold on to my money for the OP3. I'd definitely purchase a 5.5 inch OP3. The specs are crazy.

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If these rumors are true I'll definitely hold on to my money for the OP3. I'd definitely purchase a 5.5 inch OP3. The specs are crazy.
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I'm definitely waiting for this beast to come out. I've been a loyal fan of the galaxy series since the beginning, however the phones are too pricey and I need to explore other cheaper and reliable options in the future.

The Moto X Pure/Style is a 5.7" slim phone, same size as the Note 3 and Note 4.
Screen is as bright as the Note 4 in sunlight.
The bootloader is unlocked easily through Motorola and CM/AOSP ROM's are in abundance.
Phone works and is supported on all major carriers, including Verizon LTE.
Other than the Nexus 6P, it's really the only newer/good phone out that is 5.5" or larger screen size and has active development and works on ALL carriers.
I came from Note 3 and Note 4 and am happy with the phone.
Performance is about the same as Note 4 though.

I'm personally waiting to see what the next nexus looks like. Or I might jump on the HTC 10 if I get impatient. That should be a very ROM friendly phone

dkb218 said:
I update phones every year but since I considered the Note 5 a downgrade, I upgraded my Note 4 with another Note 4. I am no longer in the business if updating for the sake of updating. If the Note 6 doesn't bring back the SD card and IR blaster and be rootable [must have Viper4Android], I'll buy another Note 4. Samsung hit the sweet spot with the 4.
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I understand upgrading every year to a newer model, but why upgrade to the same phone? I am still on Note 4 I got through a pre-order and it works just fine. Just curious.

I've had (since Jan) LG G4, Nexus 6p, OnePlusOne, and my Note 4. All other ones didn't come close to the Note.
The 6p was good, but the shoddy build quality and limited storage was a deal breaker for me.
The G4 was great, but locked bootloader and lack of a fingerprint scanner was blah.
As far as phablets go, the Note 4 is still the best you can get.
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@MisterCoolBeans
Broad question but an interesting topic. Generally electronics and any other trades, there are years/releases/versions that hold value compared to years/releases/versions that are released as an illusion of an upgrade. Generally best value for the buck is to wait. Since from 1+ years you'll pay from 1/4 less to a fraction of retail. If your company pays for it it's another story. Look at any product/trade sold. New isn't always better, sometimes not just worse but actually costing you more than what use you get out of it. Advertisement/lies work thus advancement for centuries. If you are tempted by supposed improvement I say snap out of it & wait, rely on history. If you need a kick to approve your desire that might be foolish, go and have fun with her, since you won't keep in mind that not only will she bite u in the aa but might also shorten your human lifespan. All up to personal preference:angel:
Current(historical) example. I had s4 before n4. General consensus s5 & n5 is a downgrade. Again look at any other product you've acquired in the past(phones, cars, clothes, hardware, software, utilities, services, relationships, etc). There is a heart beat in your heart and scammers have the same rhythm. That is for centuries if you look at any available history.
Lastly is the reason. Why? To be more efficient and productive? Or to up your neighbor that you have the latest?
Can't control your mind's decision, have a coin choose a path for you easy, just flip it
Written with best wishes to you:good:

My original note 4 had water damage and considered jumping to s7 edge. Note 5 was out of the question. But I wasn't sure I could live without removable battery, SD card slot for my 200gb card, stylus, and lastly give up my IR which I use as my universal remote around the house. I had a feeling if I got an s7 edge I would be happy with it temporarily so I ended up getting another note 4. In my opinion, the note 4 is the Swiss army of all phones. I really love that about the note 4.
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My gf just got an S7, so like a good geek, I played around with it for a good chunk of time lol.
It's nice, there's no doubt about that, but I still prefer my Note 4

dkb218 said:
I update phones every year but since I considered the Note 5 a downgrade, I upgraded my Note 4 with another Note 4. I am no longer in the business if updating for the sake of updating. If the Note 6 doesn't bring back the SD card and IR blaster and be rootable [must have Viper4Android], I'll buy another Note 4. Samsung hit the sweet spot with the 4.
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Why would you buy a new Note 4 3 years in a row? The Note 4 can surely last more than a single year without any issues.

Note 7 anyone?

I'm just wondering if anyone is going to be jumping to the new Note 7 that was shown today? I've owned the Note 2, 3, and 4 Developer Edition, but didn't go with the Note 5 because of the lack of a memory card and no root. Now the Note 7 corrects one of those since it does have the microSD card slot, but I'm going to bet the thing will never get root access or custom ROMs.
I could sell my Note 2, 3, and 4DE to help pay for the 7, or look at going with the Moto Z Force since it also looks pretty good (and I like the Mods).
Anyone else thinking about leaving their Note 4 for a newer model?

I will wait and see if the Note 7 gets root. I will never do what I did with the Note 4 again. Even though I finally got my Note 4 rooted it was so late that there is minimal development for a phone that is 2 generations old.
Dev Converted Jasmine 6.0 MM Wonder

I'm disappointed that the Note 7 appears as a glorified S7. Who's driving all the phones to have edge screens? My wife has a S7 Edge and never uses any of the edge screen options. It was a complete let down to see that the only new option is an iris scanner and water resistance. Funny that they don't mention that the iris scanner doesn't work with glasses or contacts.
I was so looking forward to something better from Samsung.

I may take it for a test drive but I got to have a replacable battery
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I'm just wondering if anyone is going to be jumping to the new Note 7 that was shown today? I've owned the Note 2, 3, and 4 Developer Edition, but didn't go with the Note 5 because of the lack of a memory card and no root. Now the Note 7 corrects one of those since it does have the microSD card slot, but I'm going to bet the thing will never get root access or custom ROMs.
I could sell my Note 2, 3, and 4DE to help pay for the 7, or look at going with the Moto Z Force since it also looks pretty good (and I like the Mods).
Anyone else thinking about leaving their Note 4 for a newer model?
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nah...I am good with my Note 4 for now. I will see if it gets root and then possibly rethink my decision. I could care less about an iris scanner.

I just bought a Note 4 after seeing the Note 7. I haven't had a Note since the 1 and 2 versions, and I miss it. I just hope I can root it after updating to 6.0

I am totally disenchanted with Samsung right now. I have a Tab S 10.5 32GB, an S2 9.7, a Note 4 and a Gear VR. I'll be dumping all of them other than 1 of the tablets because of Samsung's ridiculous treatment of their users with buggy, delayed, and non-existant updates. The Note 4 got worse and worse after its awesome launch with KitKat. Having a Samsung device with a sealed battery terrifies me.

There's not enough to excite me about the Note 7 that I'm willing to pay almost $800 for one.

no way. I got CM13 on this thing after almost 2 years, I'm finally happy with it. I'm pretty sure this is going to be my last ever Samsung phone.
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MrNetwork said:
I just bought a Note 4 after seeing the Note 7. I haven't had a Note since the 1 and 2 versions, and I miss it. I just hope I can root it after updating to 6.0
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yeah, you can. the process is kind of a pain in the ass, but you can definitely root it and install a custom rom.
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So since the consensus thus far is that people in here aren't looking to replace their Note 4 with the 7, but how about with the Moto Z Force?

FAUguy said:
So since the consensus thus far is that people in here aren't looking to replace their Note 4 with the 7, but how about with the Moto Z Force?
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Since the Z Force lacks a stylus, a micro sd card slot, and the fact that it's Motorola. I haven't even considered it. But upon reviewing the specs and reading hands on reviews with it, it does sound like a good device. But to be honest, I just haven't given Motorola a chance since the Droid Ultra.
The mods for the Z Force are cool, but I just don't think its enough to drag me away from the Note line (I LOVE the big screens and the stylus). I also love a micro sd card slot and removable batteries. But I know with the Note 7, I'll have to give up the removable battery part.

shusuke028 said:
Since the Z Force lacks a stylus, a micro sd card slot, and the fact that it's Motorola. I haven't even considered it. But upon reviewing the specs and reading hands on reviews with it, it does sound like a good device. But to be honest, I just haven't given Motorola a chance since the Droid Ultra.
The mods for the Z Force are cool, but I just don't think its enough to drag me away from the Note line (I LOVE the big screens and the stylus). I also love a micro sd card slot and removable batteries. But I know with the Note 7, I'll have to give up the removable battery part.
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Z Force DOES have a microSD slot. Perhaps it's the 3.5mm headphone jack you are think of it lacking?

shusuke028 said:
Since the Z Force lacks a stylus, a micro sd card slot, and the fact that it's Motorola. I haven't even considered it. But upon reviewing the specs and reading hands on reviews with it, it does sound like a good device. But to be honest, I just haven't given Motorola a chance since the Droid Ultra.
The mods for the Z Force are cool, but I just don't think its enough to drag me away from the Note line (I LOVE the big screens and the stylus). I also love a micro sd card slot and removable batteries. But I know with the Note 7, I'll have to give up the removable battery part.
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The Moto Z and Z Force does have a microSD slot, but gives up the 3.5mm headphone jack for the USB-C. At least with the Note 7 it has all of that and Stylus. That is why (if) I upgraded from the Note 4, I'd rather go to the Note 7.
The lowest price I've found is Best Buy that has it for $349 with a 2 year contract. I've been out of contract for many years, so don't mind doing that. I'm just not sure if Verizon increases the line access fee. I'm currently on the 6GB Verizon Plan.

hkklife said:
Z Force DOES have a microSD slot. Perhaps it's the 3.5mm headphone jack you are think of it lacking?
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Ahh OK right. Sorry! Not trying to spread false information. I could've sworn it didn't. Thanks for correcting me. But yes, the 3.5mm headphone jack is also a minus in my book.
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FAUguy said:
The Moto Z and Z Force does have a microSD slot, but gives up the 3.5mm headphone jack for the USB-C. At least with the Note 7 it has all of that and Stylus. That is why (if) I upgraded from the Note 4, I'd rather go to the Note 7.
The lowest price I've found is Best Buy that has it for $349 with a 2 year contract. I've been out of contract for many years, so don't mind doing that. I'm just not sure if Verizon increases the line access fee. I'm currently on the 6GB Verizon Plan.
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I definitely agree with this. This Note 4 is the first phone in a while that I've actually stuck with for a while 2 years, but I feel like the Note 7 would be a worthy upgrade.
Now, if I had a Note 5, then I may not be so quick to make the upgrade.

shusuke028 said:
Ahh OK right. Sorry! Not trying to spread false information. I could've sworn it didn't. Thanks for correcting me. But yes, the 3.5mm headphone jack is also a minus in my book.
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I definitely agree with this. This Note 4 is the first phone in a while that I've actually stuck with for a while 2 years, but I feel like the Note 7 would be a worthy upgrade.
Now, if I had a Note 5, then I may not be so quick to make the upgrade.
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But on the Note 5 they took away the microSD slot, so for those people it would be an upgrade to go with the Note 7 since it does have that.

I see no need to upgrade my phone, now. My rooted Note 4 works great. I'm using the PaulPizz ROM. When I upgraded TO my Note 4, my previous phone, DROID RAZR MAXX, was lagging horribly. If/when I get to that point, I'll see about upgrading, then. At this rate, who knows, maybe it'll be another year, maybe two, I hope. Hopefully, Android 7.0 ROMs are created for the Note 4, soon. I might jump ship as soon as forward development stops. Of course, with a new unit, we all have learned out lesson about being so quick to jump on something brand new, due to the fact that obtaining root is next to impossible, nowadays with retail phones.
Anyone know if a Developer Edition will be released?

JOSHSKORN said:
I see no need to upgrade my phone, now. My rooted Note 4 works great. I'm using the PaulPizz ROM. When I upgraded TO my Note 4, my previous phone, DROID RAZR MAXX, was lagging horribly. If/when I get to that point, I'll see about upgrading, then. At this rate, who knows, maybe it'll be another year, maybe two, I hope. Hopefully, Android 7.0 ROMs are created for the Note 4, soon. I might jump ship as soon as forward development stops. Of course, with a new unit, we all have learned out lesson about being so quick to jump on something brand new, due to the fact that obtaining root is next to impossible, nowadays with retail phones.
Anyone know if a Developer Edition will be released?
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I've been using MOROM on my Note 4 DE for the past year, but has really gotten sluggish over the past few months.
Since there wasn't a Note 5 Developer Edition, I doubt there would be one on the Note 7, as most likely Samsung Pay and Android Pay wouldn't work, and it may make the iris scanner less secure.

played abit with the note7 at best buy today. really wasn't impressed at all. sigh. the edges were distracting too.didn't seem that fast/snappy.

If my Note 4 goes bad I'm probably getting another Note 4 lol

jcip17 said:
If my Note 4 goes bad I'm probably getting another Note 4 lol
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