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I wan't to buy a Transformer, but I can't find a way to justify the six hundred bucks for the whole package, keyboard and all. What sets an android tablet apart from my Samsung Captivate? This isn't bashing on it at all, I just don't want to buy another android phone with a bigger screen sans the talking functionality. What I would reaaaaally love is to have an android tablet capable of running fully both windows and android. I would be waiting fairly far down the line to get this tablet as I'm currently saving up for a car. If I could get an alternate operating system to make the tablet into a laptop of sorts that would absolutely make the purchase, even though I'll be getting a second and infinitely better laptop for a graduation present the coming year.
tl;dr : I want a transformer but can't justify buying a phone with a bigger screen minus talking capabilities, convince me.
Looks like you don't really need convincing. If you did your research and it's not for you so be it...
If you have more specific questions to figure out if a good fit for your needs don't hesitate to ask!
Joel.
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Running Windows 7 on it? Not possible.
What you're asking for, the ability to run dual operating systems on a tablet like this and at this price range is nigh impossible. The only one I know of is the Viewsonic tablet and that was incredibly poor in terms of implementation.
You might as well save your money and get a really good laptop if you're going to get another laptop anyway and demand dual booting.
Maybe you shouldn't try justifying a cost of $600.00 and instead, buy the tablet only at $400.00. This would be your lightweight mobile media consumption device but then again the "mobile" part is almost a misnomer due to the lack of 3g or 4g. Maybe ten years later when the U.S. is covered in public high speed wireless.
At least you can watch your movies, listen to your songs, use the GPS, lounge around on your couch and do other nifty things. This would fill a role you still wouldn't with a humongous Core i5 laptop or something. The point being, spend less on the tablet, spend more on the laptop later and you'll have two devices each with its own role.
Hmm. After doing half a second more research I realize that ubuntu is running on the transformer, That rather makes my day to be honest, and most likely made a sale. If they can get that running anywhere near 100% I'll have a tablet thats easily converted into an ultraportable. However I have concerns about word processing, doing basic things that can translate into using this laptop in relatively simple school situations.
How expandable is the storage?
Is Honeycomb all it's cracked up to be? It looks absolutely awesome to be honest, almost like a PC operating system on a small scale.
How's battery life with the keyboard dock? and does it vary from unit to unit? Serial numbers seem to be an issue.
If i were to buy one what serial number grouping would I want? (if I have a choice)
LIght leaks, how common are they, and is it viable to return for such a problem? Estimate of how many units per... say every 20 units would have light leak issues?
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its a matter of preference, either you really want to get a new gadget and play wit a touch screen or perfectly fine with a netbook/laptop...cant really go wrong either way especially 500 is a nice chunk of money
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Hmm. After doing half a second more research I realize that ubuntu is running on the transformer, That rather makes my day to be honest, and most likely made a sale. If they can get that running anywhere near 100% I'll have a tablet thats easily converted into an ultraportable. However I have concerns about word processing, doing basic things that can translate into using this laptop in relatively simple school situations.
How expandable is the storage?
Is Honeycomb all it's cracked up to be? It looks absolutely awesome to be honest, almost like a PC operating system on a small scale.
How's battery life with the keyboard dock? and does it vary from unit to unit? Serial numbers seem to be an issue.
If i were to buy one what serial number grouping would I want? (if I have a choice)
LIght leaks, how common are they, and is it viable to return for such a problem? Estimate of how many units per... say every 20 units would have light leak issues?
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I think it's a big mistake trying to replace a laptop with a tablet. Even a tablet with a keyboard, it's still a 10 inch screen and a tiny keyboard. Word processing just won't be fun. Tablets won't replace laptops. Save that $150 and put it towards a laptop if you don't have one yet.
It supports micro SD cards up to 32GB. You can expand the storage infinitely if you don't mind swapping the micro SD cards.
I'm not a fan of Honeycomb. I think it has quite a few performance and stability issues. I've returned my Honeycomb tablets and am currently waiting on Android 4 coming this fall.
I've had 3 Transformers, all had some backlight bleeding. Though with them all, it was never bad enough that I'd really notice it if I wasn't in a dark room looking at a dark screen.
Transformer is a cool tablet for $400. I'd skip the keyboard.
But if you aren't in a big hurry, I think Android 4.0 this fall should be worth the wait. Honeycomb is Google's rush job to get a tablet OS out to compete against Apple. And it's not that pretty. This fall, besides a new Android, we should also have tablets with better processors. The Tegra 2 in the current tablets doesn't impress me much either.
However if do want something now, and I couldn't blame you for not wanting to wait 3 months... the Transformer is a really good deal.
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I wan't to buy a Transformer, but I can't find a way to justify the six hundred bucks for the whole package, keyboard and all. What sets an android tablet apart from my Samsung Captivate? This isn't bashing on it at all, I just don't want to buy another android phone with a bigger screen sans the talking functionality. What I would reaaaaally love is to have an android tablet capable of running fully both windows and android. I would be waiting fairly far down the line to get this tablet as I'm currently saving up for a car. If I could get an alternate operating system to make the tablet into a laptop of sorts that would absolutely make the purchase, even though I'll be getting a second and infinitely better laptop for a graduation present the coming year.
tl;dr : I want a transformer but can't justify buying a phone with a bigger screen minus talking capabilities, convince me.
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In short get a Windows 8 Tablet, if you're so against the TF which is amazing. Also you don't have to buy the keyboard dock right away so then it's only $400 dollars.
Some questions with my background ofcourse. I've just started doing International baccalaureate and i'm already not so much organised and my papers are laying around all over the place so i was thinking of buying this tablet...Of course i have some experience with android and its apps but i was more concerned about the hardware than software.
I have two options, either to get normal dual core laptop worth 400-500$ OR get acer iconia which would be sort of an advantage over laptop since the laptop doesn't have touch screen. So here comes my questions:
1. How is this tablet in note taking? Decent apps in the market which would let me take notes for the whole semister? (approximately 2 years course)
2. Is docking station same for ipad and all other tablets?
3. Some additional commets would really really help a lot !
Since i'm in the middle of the course already...i would love to have as many comments as possible so that i can make a decision on buying this.
Thanks a lot in advance !
for me its great you can save everything to Google documents or something similar or even on a USB thumb drive.for lotsnof typing you prob want a keyboard USB or maybe even a keyboard case.I have a HP dm1 11.6 inch notebook as well as this tab.I nolonger pack the notebook around.
Very versatile tablet having full USB is a plus over other tablets.
for quick hand notes - you should try Handrite from the market.
For now is the best of those what i tried. It is not the prettiest one but the fastest and easiest to use.
if i was to have a choice between windows 7 operated tablet and this one...which one would you guys have suggested me because i can't decide whether to take an android tab or usual windows 7 operated device...for light gaming + mostly note taking...
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if i was to have a choice between windows 7 operated tablet and this one...which one would you guys have suggested me because i can't decide whether to take an android tab or usual windows 7 operated device...for light gaming + mostly note taking...
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Not quite sure which games you'll be playing, but the experience will be no where near Win7 with a tablet.
If gaming is a priority, find yourself a good touch screen laptop that converts into a tablet, and runs Win7. I love my HP touchsmart laptop/tablet, but don't game so it stays turned off most of the time in favor of my tablet. The touchsmart has incredible handwriting recognition built into Win7, and really is a dream to use.
With the Iconia you get a much lighter platform with a smaller footprint that is easier to tote around campus.
Weigh your priorities, and make your decision based on those priorities.
I'm thinking I might like a Windows 8 x86 tablet to play with. No point for me to wait for the Microsoft Surface Pro, because I expect it'll be $700+ and that's way too much for a toy I'll just be goofing off with in the livingroom while I watch TV. I'd be interested in recommendations, preferably $350 or less.
My current tablet is an HP Touchpad running CM9 ICS and it's pretty much perfect as far as screen size goes. Using that as a guide, HP Slate looks too small. Acer Iconia W500 looks pretty decent, but they are still kind of pricey even used. Maybe if I get super lucky, willing to wait several months to snipe an auction, I can get a 2nd hand one for under $350 on eBay. I'm also not super thrilled about widescreen on a tablet since I won't watch too many movies on it.
Those 9.7" Chinese tablets for around $350 look appealing, because I think they use the same 9.7" IPS screen as the older iPads and my HP Touchpad. I greatly prefer a 4:3 screen if possible because they're nice for web browsing in both orientations. There are identical looking China tabs with different brands and models, I saw FSL F979, Wopad R92, AnyPC, and a bunch of others. This is a vid of the AnyPC version running Win8:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vTYGKSm54c&feature=player_embedded
Looks reasonably responsive in the vid.
Anyone have one of these China tabs? They all look the same, are they? I wonder if they're all manufactured by the same company and the name is slapped on by distributors. The only customer review I could find on Google was a guy on a Spanish forum really liked his Wopad R92. They also dual-boot Android x86 out of the box, although it's probably possible to do this with any x86 tablet with a little work.
Skytex Skypad looks like an even nicer 4:3 x86 tablet with dual core processor, but at $700, it's a bit more than I'd like to spend.
Is there anything else I should be looking at? Maybe something thinner? So far all these x86 tablets are pretty fat. W500 is around 16mm I think, and China tabs around 17mm. My 13.7mm HP Touchpad is already thicker than I would like.
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I'm thinking I might like a Windows 8 x86 tablet to play with. No point for me to wait for the Microsoft Surface Pro, because I expect it'll be $700+ and that's way too much for a toy I'll just be goofing off with in the livingroom while I watch TV. I'd be interested in recommendations, preferably $350 or less.
My current tablet is an HP Touchpad running CM9 ICS and it's pretty much perfect as far as screen size goes. Using that as a guide, HP Slate looks too small. Acer Iconia W500 looks pretty decent, but they are still kind of pricey even used. Maybe if I get super lucky, willing to wait several months to snipe an auction, I can get a 2nd hand one for under $350 on eBay. I'm also not super thrilled about widescreen on a tablet since I won't watch too many movies on it.
Those 9.7" Chinese tablets for around $350 look appealing, because I think they use the same 9.7" IPS screen as the older iPads and my HP Touchpad. I greatly prefer a 4:3 screen if possible because they're nice for web browsing in both orientations. There are identical looking China tabs with different brands and models, I saw FSL F979, Wopad R92, AnyPC, and a bunch of others. This is a vid of the AnyPC version running Win8:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vTYGKSm54c&feature=player_embedded
Looks reasonably responsive in the vid.
Anyone have one of these China tabs? They all look the same, are they? I wonder if they're all manufactured by the same company and the name is slapped on by distributors. The only customer review I could find on Google was a guy on a Spanish forum really liked his Wopad R92. They also dual-boot Android x86 out of the box, although it's probably possible to do this with any x86 tablet with a little work.
Skytex Skypad looks like an even nicer 4:3 x86 tablet with dual core processor, but at $700, it's a bit more than I'd like to spend.
Is there anything else I should be looking at? Maybe something thinner? So far all these x86 tablets are pretty fat. W500 is around 16mm I think, and China tabs around 17mm. My 13.7mm HP Touchpad is already thicker than I would like.
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get an acer w500 tablet, its fast, reliable, and it is cheap compared to other good windows tabs, i got mine for 440 on ebay with free shipping
I agree the W500 from acer is the way to go. I got mine for 375 with shipping from ebay.
works great with win 8
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Me too, got mine for £275 with shipping off ebay!
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Me too, got mine for £275 with shipping off ebay!
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Really? But in auction or in "fast buy"?
Is native with Windows 8 RC?
If not, what driver do you use with it?
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DeAndreon said:
Really? But in auction or in "fast buy"?
Is native with Windows 8 RC?
If not, what driver do you use with it?
Thanks.
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just use the drivers off the acer website, you have to install windows 8 yourself but most of the drivers work, all you need are bluetooth, rotation and the acer device control program
i personally installed the amd graphics drivers because amd's control software for the c60 apu is amazing(you can control clock speeds, power consumption, ect.)
and what he paid for his tablet is about 430usd(assuming it is the British pound) but i have seen refurbished units for as low as $300, i personally wouldnt get refurbished though as you will be stuck with the amd c50 which is slower than the amd c60 by 333mhz(the c60 has a turbo core of 1.33ghz but it runs naively at 1ghz)
what do you think about the tablet : Lenovo ideapad P1 link
or Hasee A110 (or A10)
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what do you think about the tablet : Lenovo ideapad P1 link
or Hasee A110 (or A10)
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what are the specs on that tablet.
windows 8 tablet
Windows 8 clearly has plans for the production of plenty of tablets; in fact, dell has already announced a partnership with the Windows to release a tablet in early 2012. This could be the first tablet that is released, but it will not be the only one.
because all features and software available in windows 8.just use the drivers off the acer website, you have to install windows 8 yourself but most of the drivers work, all you need are bluetooth, rotation and the acer device control program
i personally installed the amd graphics drivers because amd's control software for the c60 apu is amazing(you can control clock speeds, power consumption.ARM or advanced RISC machine is a 32 bit reduced instruction set computer, which is currently used in low end technologies such as phones and tablets. Originally, they were developed for computing, but the x86 family took over this market and now dominate it. However, ARM has a tight grip on the mobile phone and tablet market. An astonishing 98% of phones sold last year used ARM systems.and huge benefits of arm...simplicity and higher performance.
I had a w500 that I used for a while, and it was great with Windows 8. I got it for $250 on CL with the dock and everything. I was able to get an Asus EP121 on eBay for $450 and I'm just thrilled with it. Its missing the stylus and Bluetooth keyboard, but I wouldn't use those, anyway. I got the 64gb version. I would've liked the Samsung series 7 slate, but I just couldn't fund them for under $700.
W500 is a good cheap tablet, but it's ugly and very slow. Don't expect to be running any javascript metro apps on it without lag.
It's surprisingly solid in desktop mode for basic programs and stuff.
Thanks for the recommends, looks like Acer W500 is unanimous. I also saw it's not too hard to find a used one for <$300 on eBay, although I don't see any way to tell if it's a C-50 or C-60 version.
However, the more use my HP Touchpad, I think I won't be able to tolerate going back to a 10.1" widescreen tab. I had one before, and hated using it in portrait because it's so narrow and tall that way. With my HP Touchpad, I almost always use it portrait because I mainly use it for reading/web and never watch movies. I'll probably just stick with my HP Touchpad until a good and inexpensive 4:3 Windows x86 tab comes out.
hi, I'm making my mind and starting to save my money to buy Win8 Tablet, I saw a lot of variants, something with ARM processors and others with Intel processors.
Intel will be my choice for optimal performance, what are the tablets that will carry Intel CPU? even if rumoured
ARM will be your more traditional type tablets with the more traditional price ie 10" thin slab for about £350. The Intel variants your looking at hybrid ultrabooks. Slightly thicker with keyboards etc. An example would be the Sony duo 11. That said MS will have both intel and arm versions of the surface though intel is again thicker. It depends if your trying to replace a pc or just want a tablet? There not really the same thing or in the same price bracket. You will be looking at about £200+ extra for intel hence being more ultrabooks with touchscreens than tablets.
I brought a acer w500 for £250 from hmv.
It works great with windows 8.
It's cheap and runs smoothly.
If you want a cheap windows tablet this is the way to go.
Iv not seen a windows tablet at a price lower than this.
Also it includes the £15 upgrade price to windows 8.
From my fingers to your face.
interesting thread. can any android tablet have windows 8 installed? or do android devices not have ssd/normal hdds in them?
thanks
yeah im looking to replace my laptop with an Ultrabook or hybrid, i dont mind paying extra for optimal performance.
Sony Duo 11 looks promising, waiting for companys to show more
I don't know, that Surface tablet looks pretty cool. Especially with the keyboard cover. If Microsoft prices the Surface RT at $200, I'm picking up one for sure...and will probably buy again when the Ivy bridge surface drops next year.
....Sony has a habit of overpricing everything. No go in this recession environment.
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Convertable Laptop/Tablet
Hi
For the last three years I have been using a HP Touchsmart TX2Z which is a convertable Laptop/Tablet.
It wouldn't compare favourably to current products but based on my experience, I recommend using this form factor as a primary PC. I use it as a laptop if I'm writing lots of emails or a document like a business plan but then as a tablet if I'm just reading emails or documents, browsing the web or in meetings and want quick access to information, agendas, minutes, etc.
Windows 8 and Office 2013 make it a lot more useful with "Touch Mode" and the better support for touch control throughout the OS.
God bless
andrew-in-woking
hello all,
my university gives a 400 pounds credit to buy from studentstore.uk i was planning to get a windows 8 tab but they dont stock sony,asus or dell products .i was planning to get a baytrail tablet like dell venue pro 11.with a maximum budget of 600 pounds(400+200).
so my only option is to get an acer w700 with i3,4gb ram 64 gb memory available for 570 pounds.or wait till samsung,lenovo and acer brings in 10-11 inch baytrail tablet.
so do you think its a good idea to get w700 or just wait till others comes with baytrail tablets(any idea when on earth they will launch it ).?
At this late date, what you see (in the MS store) are what'll be available for this Q4.
My suggestion is to ignore the one-device-fits-all PR hype and get two devices: a 12"-13" laptop for productivity, and a separate tablet for portable use. The meat-and-potato work box comes first, obviously. For my college days, I used a 12" IBM Thinkpad X series, which I lugged everywhere. It wasn't light, but it was built like a tank. The bottom line for me wasn't about best speed or battery life, but good old reliability.
rkoforever90 said:
hello all,
my university gives a 400 pounds credit to buy from studentstore.uk i was planning to get a windows 8 tab but they dont stock sony,asus or dell products .i was planning to get a baytrail tablet like dell venue pro 11.with a maximum budget of 600 pounds(400+200).
so my only option is to get an acer w700 with i3,4gb ram 64 gb memory available for 570 pounds.or wait till samsung,lenovo and acer brings in 10-11 inch baytrail tablet.
so do you think its a good idea to get w700 or just wait till others comes with baytrail tablets(any idea when on earth they will launch it ).?
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Your choice definitely depends on what you plan to do with it. Do you want something that will serve as a PC as well as a tablet, or just a portable typing device, or just for entertainment? I've also heard that those who do computer science/programming degrees, you'll want something a lot more powerful. However, for humanities subjects, i'm sure an i3 will be just fine.
If you ask me, you should never get anything Acer made.
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Your choice definitely depends on what you plan to do with it. Do you want something that will serve as a PC as well as a tablet, or just a portable typing device, or just for entertainment? I've also heard that those who do computer science/programming degrees, you'll want something a lot more powerful. However, for humanities subjects, i'm sure an i3 will be just fine.
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i dont want an ultra book or laptop since i already have a laptop.i want a windows 8 tablet which is thin light and with good battery backup.
Deusdies said:
If you ask me, you should never get anything Acer made.
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i had acer desktop (in 2005) then an acer laptop (bought in 2009) and then another one in 2011(which iam still using) my brother has an acer s3 ultrabook.
i never had any problem with acer till now, also one of my relative works at acer service centre.
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i had acer desktop (in 2005) then an acer laptop (bought in 2009) and then another one in 2011(which iam still using) my brother has an acer s3 ultrabook.
i never had any problem with acer till now, also one of my relative works at acer service centre.
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My experience with the acer repair service isn't great, just got my w700 back and it has gained a load of scratches (came back quite dirty as well) and the rubber section on the back which they clearly removed to open it up hasn't been stuck down properly and now comes away from the case.
Also OP you should be aware that Acer support in general is awful, they delete posts on the forums they don't like (mainly people complaining about the terrible support) and there is a throttling issue with the i5 version which they refuse to fix, you should check out the 52 page thread on their forums which has been going on for over a year.
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My experience with the acer repair service isn't great, just got my w700 back and it has gained a load of scratches (came back quite dirty as well) and the rubber section on the back which they clearly removed to open it up hasn't been stuck down properly and now comes away from the case.
Also OP you should be aware that Acer support in general is awful, they delete posts on the forums they don't like (mainly people complaining about the terrible support) and there is a throttling issue with the i5 version which they refuse to fix, you should check out the 52 page thread on their forums which has been going on for over a year.
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the problem is i dont have an option to purchase other than student store u.k and they dont have much options either.
you can have a look and suggest if anything better is there for the price.
http://www.studentstore.co.uk/getech/all-manufacturers/Tablets/for-students.aspx
What subject are you studying at university/what is the tablet required for?
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What subject are you studying at university/what is the tablet required for?
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iam doing mechanical engineering.mostly i need it for entertainment purpose, taking notes , power point presentations etc. but i have a laptop also .
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iam doing mechanical engineering.mostly i need it for entertainment purpose, taking notes , power point presentations etc. but i have a laptop also .
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That should be fine. You don't need something very powerful for that. Actually, I only had an Android tablet (Xperia Tablet S) to do that and it handled those kind of tasks fine for me.
PowerPoint you can install on the device anyway so your fine on that front (uni may offer it for free too). Entertainment is up to you. Note taking should be fine, depends on if you are OK with touch keyboards/small keyboards or not, or using a touchscreen to write with (to my knowledge there is no wacom or synaptics stylus, only the bog standard touch screen).
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PowerPoint you can install on the device anyway so your fine on that front (uni may offer it for free too). Entertainment is up to you. Note taking should be fine, depends on if you are OK with touch keyboards/small keyboards or not, or using a touchscreen to write with (to my knowledge there is no wacom or synaptics stylus, only the bog standard touch screen).
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so which model of acer w700 you own?.how is the overall experience and battery backup?
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so which model of acer w700 you own?.how is the overall experience and battery backup?
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I dont
Since I have an Acer W700 tablet, I would let you know something about the W700. I will compare it mostly with the Surface Pro because its a gold standard for Intel Core tablets
First thing first, W700 lacks the active digitizer. Don't expect writing and drawing to feel like the Surface Pro or Galaxy Note. Its far from it. I use Adonit Jot stylus, it helps a lot compared to other styli or finger input, but still nowhere as good as the Surface Pro.
Second, the battery last like Haswell tablets. This tablet is insane in term of battery life. I mostly get 6-7 hours for my usage. I use this tablets mostly for browsing, downloading, playing casual games, taking notes (OneNote FTW!), watching videos/movies and listening to music. If you look for an Ivy Bridge tablet that last like Haswell tablets, this is the only one.
Third, since I mentioned videos, movies, and music, I would say this tablet has great screen and speaker. The speaker is great for a tablet. If you enable the Dolby enhancement, the speaker will get louder (with some distortion), on par with cheaper multimedia laptops. Definitely better than the Surface Pro. The screen is also better than any tablet screen Ive ever used.
Fourth, it has no great keyboard solution. Unlike the Surface Pro which has options like the Type and Touch cover, the W700 relies on a Bluetooth keyboard or a case with integrated Bluetooth keyboard. Consult the seller first on which version you get. I would recommend the former since the latter is not comfortable (very, very thin), it is nice though. If you are a bit unlucky like me, youll get neither of them. I got a Perixx 804 Bluetooth keyboard for €25, and it works reliably over Bluetooth. This keyboard feels like a keyboard from Acer V5 or most Sony VAIOs (a bit harder than MacBooks)
Fifth, it has WiFi issue. This issue plagues mostly early generation of this tablet, but you might get this as well. On my W700, I have no problem with the disconnection. However, the signal is not as good as other devices. Usually, when the other devices still get 1 bar of signal, the W700 has lost connection.
Sixth, its graphic performance is not as great as how a HD4000 should be. The GPU suffers from bad throttling, making the performance only comparable to HD3000 GPU on most laptops (I tried with i5-2410M)
Overall, this tablet is geared towards entertainment (great screen and speaker) than business/work (no active digitizer and no keyboard solution). This device is great if you want to use one device rather than two (tablet+laptop), but don't expect too much. Since Haswell tablets are just behind the corner, I would suggest you to wait for some affordable Haswell tablets. However, if you cant wait, I would recommend this device over any Atom tablets unless you need an active digitizer.
My W700 is the i5-3317U model with 64 GB of storage. I wish I had the 128 GB model.
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My W700 is the i5-3317U model with 64 GB of storage. I wish I had the 128 GB model.
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Thermal throttling on the i5 model seems very common, yet rare on the i3 model
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Since I have an Acer W700 tablet, I would let you know something about the W700. I will compare it mostly with the Surface Pro because its a gold standard for Intel Core tablets
First thing first, W700 lacks the active digitizer. Don't expect writing and drawing to feel like the Surface Pro or Galaxy Note. Its far from it. I use Adonit Jot stylus, it helps a lot compared to other styli or finger input, but still nowhere as good as the Surface Pro.
Second, the battery last like Haswell tablets. This tablet is insane in term of battery life. I mostly get 6-7 hours for my usage. I use this tablets mostly for browsing, downloading, playing casual games, taking notes (OneNote FTW!), watching videos/movies and listening to music. If you look for an Ivy Bridge tablet that last like Haswell tablets, this is the only one.
Third, since I mentioned videos, movies, and music, I would say this tablet has great screen and speaker. The speaker is great for a tablet. If you enable the Dolby enhancement, the speaker will get louder (with some distortion), on par with cheaper multimedia laptops. Definitely better than the Surface Pro. The screen is also better than any tablet screen Ive ever used.
Fourth, it has no great keyboard solution. Unlike the Surface Pro which has options like the Type and Touch cover, the W700 relies on a Bluetooth keyboard or a case with integrated Bluetooth keyboard. Consult the seller first on which version you get. I would recommend the former since the latter is not comfortable (very, very thin), it is nice though. If you are a bit unlucky like me, youll get neither of them. I got a Perixx 804 Bluetooth keyboard for €25, and it works reliably over Bluetooth. This keyboard feels like a keyboard from Acer V5 or most Sony VAIOs (a bit harder than MacBooks)
Fifth, it has WiFi issue. This issue plagues mostly early generation of this tablet, but you might get this as well. On my W700, I have no problem with the disconnection. However, the signal is not as good as other devices. Usually, when the other devices still get 1 bar of signal, the W700 has lost connection.
Sixth, its graphic performance is not as great as how a HD4000 should be. The GPU suffers from bad throttling, making the performance only comparable to HD3000 GPU on most laptops (I tried with i5-2410M)
Overall, this tablet is geared towards entertainment (great screen and speaker) than business/work (no active digitizer and no keyboard solution). This device is great if you want to use one device rather than two (tablet+laptop), but don't expect too much. Since Haswell tablets are just behind the corner, I would suggest you to wait for some affordable Haswell tablets. However, if you cant wait, I would recommend this device over any Atom tablets unless you need an active digitizer.
My W700 is the i5-3317U model with 64 GB of storage. I wish I had the 128 GB model.
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Thanks a lot , and sorry for the late reply. iam getting a 450 pounds voucher of student store u.k from my uni and i asked them about the keyboard they told that it comes with the dock & keyboard + the case cover with keyboard out of box so i dont need to buy it seperately . also student store u.k dont have much options to choose from so either i need to wait till lenovo and acer comes out with baytrail or haswell 10+ inch tablets as the studentstore dont stock Asus, HP or Dell .
Also another thing i need to know is that whether the weight and thickness of w700 is an issue to use it as a tablet .
I'd wait to purchase a dell. Acer was terrible when I had it. Dell seems more reliable.
I have the i5 version that came with the dock and the keyboard case. Despite being labelled as having an i5-3317 processor on the box, mine says it has a i5-3337 inside. A patch has fixed the throttling issue for me. The tablet is relatively heavy, it gets uncomfortable to hold and use rather quickly. The thickness isn't a problem; it's actually pretty thin. It's fine to use with the keyboard case on the lap though.
I don't mind the keyboard case. It has full width keys, seems sturdy and keeps the whole setup light. The keys don't press down far due to the thinness of it though. I have to say I like keyboard docks more after using the Asus Transformer TF101, but that would mean adding weight to balance the tablet.
Changing the SSD inside is a bit challenging, but it's possible. It uses a standard mSATA interface according to those who've replaced it. The omission of a SD/microSD slot is a bit strange, but I'd say it has enough storage for most people.
I haven't had any issues with the Wi-Fi, although it seems many others are having trouble with it.
The recovery is on a couple of DVDs. If anything goes awry, you may need to get an external DVD drive. Windows 8 does have the refresh option, which makes things easier if Windows is the problem.
The cameras on the device work alright. Pictures taken look rather poor quality, but I find these things tend to be that way. I really don't know why they put a back facing camera on this thing; I think people using their iPads to take pictures is bad enough. I haven't used it for video chatting yet. Some have reported that the microphone isn't great. The mic is on the bottom edge, which might have something to do with it, but I haven't used it yet.
I enjoy having this tablet. It's as powerful as a laptop and it's fast.