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Moto X hits Europe prices

ok from yesterday it s posibble to preorder white and black moto x
here are some links
for Italy no price for now
http://www.expansys.it/motorola-motox-16gb-black-257780/
Germany best price 399 free shiping
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00HU202NQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF
amazon fr France black and white 429 euro
http://www.amazon.fr/Motorola-Smart...ie=UTF8&qid=1389878001&sr=8-1&keywords=moto+x
amazon uk 359 £
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Motorola-16...ie=UTF8&qid=1389878068&sr=1-6&keywords=moto+x
no Motomaker in Europe ,no bamboo, no customization
what do u think?
u will buy the Moto x or u will get it from USA?

I think for those who live in Europe will come down to decided whether or not they want a customized Moto X and pay a nice shipping fee to receive it at there homes.
Or if they don't mind for customization and just pay a bit less.
Sent from my Moto X

I"m from Spain and I will probably buy black model. I would like to customize it but ....
Sorry for my english

danger2u said:
Germany best price 399 free shiping
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00HU202NQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF
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and just 369€ if you have the Amazon.de VISA card
Beantragen Sie die Amazon.de VISA Karte und Sie erhalten 30 € Startgutschrift.
Zwischensumme: € 399,00
Gutschrift auf Kreditkarte: - € 30,00
Sie zahlen bei Kartenabrechnung: € 369,00
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German Media Markt 399€ if you buy it in their shop
http://www.mediamarkt.de/webapp/wcs...hop&searchParams=&path=&query=MOTOROLA+Moto+x

I would like the 32gb model. Do you think they will release it too?
Sorry for my english

saulee. said:
I would like the 32gb model. Do you think they will release it too?
Sorry for my english
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it doesn't look like that.
they should sell the 32 gig model for 399€ though, that would be a good price.

16gb are too litlle for me. I will wait a period of time and If they bring 32gb model I will buy it.
Sorry for my english

saulee. said:
I would like the 32gb model. Do you think they will release it too?
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This is what Alex Dobie wrote on androidcentral.com:
"Motorola says the device will go on sale from February 1, and will cost £380 outright. We won't be getting any Moto Maker facilities right now, so we're limited to the black and white versions. 16GB will be the standard model available, but a 32GB Moto X can be yours from the Motorola website when it goes on sale. In addition, Motorola confirmed to us that the 32GB version will not in fact be available in the UK at this time."
Maybe a dev. edition like in the US
saulee. said:
16gb are too litlle for me. I will wait a period of time and If they bring 32gb model I will buy it.
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I'm also looking for 32gb version for the same reason. I have a 32gb sdcard actually with ~20gb of music that's why 16gb is not enough for me.

So we will be able to buy 32gb model in a future not so far. Let's wait until then
Sorry for my english

It looks like they already start to lower the price in the UK :
Amazon's price is now £343.26 & FREE Delivery [You Save:£6.73 (2%)] instead of £359
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Motorola-16...ie=UTF8&qid=1389878068&sr=1-6&keywords=moto+x
You can find it at Clove Technology for £330 + delivery costs (Royal Mail Special Delivery £8.40 or Interlink Express £6.00)
http://www.clove.co.uk/motorola-moto-x

In spanish Amazon 429€.
Sorry for my english

350€ in amazon.de

RenSoAbrupt said:
I think for those who live in Europe will come down to decided whether or not they want a customized Moto X and pay a nice shipping fee to receive it at there homes.
Or if they don't mind for customization and just pay a bit less.
Sent from my Moto X
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For people living in europe, it doesn't only come down to price and looks.
Buying a US version will make it impossible to use 4G/LTE in EU, so in order to succesfully connect to 4G networks in EU, one must buy a EU Moto X. Unfortunatly Motomaker and 32gb versions are not available in EU, so it really comes down to looks and space vs. 4G speed.
Btw. Importing a US version to EU, will cost the same or more, than buying an EU version, due to import taxes, unless you travel to USA and bring one home in your bag.

Odelheim said:
For people living in europe, it doesn't only come down to price and looks.
Buying a US version will make it impossible to use 4G/LTE in EU, so in order to succesfully connect to 4G networks in EU, one must buy a EU Moto X. Unfortunatly Motomaker and 32gb versions are not available in EU, so it really comes down to looks and space vs. 4G speed.
Btw. Importing a US version to EU, will cost the same or more, than buying an EU version, due to import taxes, unless you travel to USA and bring one home in your bag.
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If you buy a XT1058 from the states you get LTE band 7 which many carriers use in Europe.
I got the t-mobile with all the cozy stuff and sent it with a friend that was flying home.
Originally the plan was to sent it with mail (this was before motorola announced that the x was coming to Europe) but I got lucky.
Sometimes you might get lucky with the taxes (in Sweden there are no tolls on cell phones, "just" 25% VAT). They don't control all packages. It also depends from which county it was sent from.
Booo for import taxes, I hate them.
"Hey, we can't compete with the price because of our superduper high taxes and average salaries, nor can we compete with the availability of products so let's punish everyone who isn't buying stuff from within the ****ty EU".

Belgians interested in this phone will have to stick to the European model if they want 4G, unfortunately none of the USA models supports LTE 1800.
Anyboy knows weather the bootloader is unlocked or unlock-able on the european model?

DVgadget said:
Belgians interested in this phone will have to stick to the European model if they want 4G, unfortunately none of the USA models supports LTE 1800.
Anyboy knows weather the bootloader is unlocked or unlock-able on the european model?
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They go for 349 euro`s in the MediaMarkt and Saturn Germany http://www.saturn.de/webapp/wcs/sto...s=&path=&query=MOTOROLA+Moto+X™+16+GB+schwarz.

Nexus 6 Australian Thread

Hi everyone
Thought I'd make a thread for prospective Australian owners to discuss the device.
I'm personally super excited by the fact that the Nexus phone is a phablet. A bit less enthused by the price but we'll wait for the official $AU price. It'll still be cheaper than the $900+ Note 4 which is its only other competitor currently.
Looks like it'll be coming to Telstra in December according to the well connected and reliable Crazy CS from Whirlpool:
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=2324246&p=3#r50
If so, that means it'll probably get released in JB Hifi and Officeworks. Maybe it'll be a bit cheaper like last year with their marginally better than RRP prices for the Nexus 5.
Anyways discuss away

I'm excited with this release and been waiting for this phone but bit disappointed with the listed price, I was hoping @ 500 mark.

Carrier release info:
http://ausdroid.net/2014/10/16/which-australian-carriers-will-offer-the-nexus-6-and-nexus-9/

I paid like 700 for the Galaxy Nexus here OZ. I'd pay it again for a smaller a Nexus 6. Why is there no choice if you want better battery and stock Android?

Re: Prices
So the AU prices for the Nexus 9 are out. As you can see there is roughly a 1.2x multiplier from the US price which is fortunately less than currency conversion + GST.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Nexus-Tablet-8-9-Inch-Black/dp/B00M6UC5B4
https://play.google.com/store/devic...Wi_Fi_Indigo_Black?id=nexus_9_black_16gb_wifi
Nexus 9
16GB = $399.99 US = $479 AU – 1.198 multiplier
32GB = $479.99 US = $589 AU – 1.227 multiplier
Plus of course the $19.95 shipping.
Extrapolating to the Nexus 6 (1.2 multiplier)
32GB = $649.99 US = $779.99 AU = $799.94 shipped
64GB = $699.99 US = $839.99 AU = $859.95 shipped
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_6_32GB_Midnight_Blue?id=nexus_6_blue_32gb
Preorder link but not open for pre-orders yet.
Personally a bit high for me as a day 1 purchase from the playstore. Think I might wait a couple of weeks and try to nab one off a local retailer (JB/OW/HN etc) for 10-20% off ala what happened with the Nexus 7. Although come to think of it, did they ever stock the nexus 5/4? Thought they only sold nexus tablets?
From past history grey importers like Kogan/DWI have not sold Nexuses for cheaper than RRP either.
Hmmm....needs more thought.

wow, not buying at that price point, goole lost me with this one.
Gone are the days of Nexus being device for poor man, they've joined the premium club.

With the release of the FCC data of the international and US version of the N6, we can see the lte and 3g bands they support. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/nexus-6-fcc-t2917562
Band 28 is what you really want...
Red = None
Blue = US
Orange= International
Green = both
2G
900Mhz – Telstra, Optus & Vodafone
1800Mhz (Telstra, Optus & Vodafone all use this band for 4G instead)
3G
850MHz (B5) – Telstra, Vodafone
900MHz (B8) – Optus, Vodafone –
2100MHz (B1) – Telstra, Optus, Vodafone
4G
2100Mhz (B1) FDD (0000000000000001) – Telstra (a handful of sites), Optus (Tasmania)
1800Mhz (B3) FDD (0000000000000004) – Telstra, Optus, Vodafone
850Mhz (B5) FDD (000000??????????) – Vodafone (refarming 5Mhz of 3G to 4G across all metro areas by end of 2014)
900Mhz (B8) FDD (0000000000000080) – Telstra (a handful of sites, utilises spectrum previously used by 2G)
700Mhz (B28) FDD (0000000008000000) – Telstra, Optus (switched on early in a couple of cities, will be widespread in 2015)
2300Mhz (B40) TDD (0000008000000000) – Optus (Vivid wireless spectrum)
To follow late 2014:
2600Mhz (B7) FDD (0000000000000040) – Telstra, Optus, TPG

dhaneri said:
wow, not buying at that price point, goole lost me with this one.
Gone are the days of Nexus being device for poor man, they've joined the premium club.
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Before the Nexus 4, Nexus devices weren't cheap. The nexus 6 and 9 are definitely not as cheap as I'd want but they're still cheaper than the competition and google has upped the build quality a lot
Sent from my LG G2 running CloudyG3 ?

Well I paid $800 for the Galaxy Nexus (my first ever Android phone) when it was released - it was cool when I got it but looking back I wouldn't have got that phone again. Could've got the Galaxy S2 cheaper at the time.
The Nexus 6 looks to cost about $750 for the 64gb version shipped, purchased from overseas of course. From talking with some phone guys at Telstra they expect the Nexus 6 to retail outright around $800-$900, depending on where you get it from. That is not a good deal in my opinion. Considering the inflation in our prices for tech devices between $750 and $850/$900 could be very close to right for the 64gb version.

spartanm99 said:
Well I paid $800 for the Galaxy Nexus (my first ever Android phone) when it was released - it was cool when I got it but looking back I wouldn't have got that phone again. Could've got the Galaxy S2 cheaper at the time.
The Nexus 6 looks to cost about $750 for the 64gb version shipped, purchased from overseas of course. From talking with some phone guys at Telstra they expect the Nexus 6 to retail outright around $800-$900, depending on where you get it from. That is not a good deal in my opinion. Considering the inflation in our prices for tech devices between $750 and $850/$900 could be very close to right for the 64gb version.
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Where would you import it from?

icefest said:
Where would you import it from?
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Buy from Google play for $699 + the usual $50 shipping to Australia will put it at $749 for the 64gb or purchase through carrier at the (as I was told) approximate price between $800 and $900 per phone.
$900 for Nexus 6 is actually more expensive than the Note 4; you can pick that up cheaper elsewhere.

spartanm99 said:
Buy from Google play for $699 + the usual $50 shipping to Australia will put it at $749 for the 64gb or purchase through carrier at the (as I was told) approximate price between $800 and $900 per phone.
$900 for Nexus 6 is actually more expensive than the Note 4; you can pick that up cheaper elsewhere.
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Oh, but then you wouldn't have decent telstra 4g... I though you had another way of getting the international edition.
Thanks for the reply though!

icefest said:
Oh, but then you wouldn't have decent telstra 4g... I though you had another way of getting the international edition.
Thanks for the reply though!
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If you wanted the phone cheaper with Telstra 4G I would get a Telstra plan (with no phone included) and buy the Nexus 6 outright from Google.
That is not a cheap option BUT could be slightly cheaper than going direct to Telstra. Telstra may have the best 4G network but in reality it is not much better than the other carriers. Fact. Telstra are WAY overpriced. I quit them for Vodafone and while Vodafone is cheaper and the internet is slightly less stable, I'm still able to carry on my business as per normal without problems.
FYI my original Telstra plan was:
$80 per month which included:
- 1 phone (Samsung Galaxy Ace)
- 1.1 gigs download per month
- 100 free calls
- 100 free texts
- 50 free international calls
- Locked in for TWO YEARS
My current Vodafone plan is:
$28 per month which includes:
- 2 gig download per month
- 500 free calls
- 500 free texts to any phone in Australia
- Locked in for one year
- Free phone (ironically, Samsung Galaxy Ace)

spartanm99 said:
If you wanted the phone cheaper with Telstra 4G I would get a Telstra plan (with no phone included) and buy the Nexus 6 outright from Google.
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Pretty much what I'm planning to do.
I need the reception as I spend a lot of time in really marginal service areas where the extra range of 700mhz of 850mhz should make a significant difference.
I've thought about Optus, as they have a pretty decent remote area coverage but it just isn't as good as Telstra. I'm on a Telstra plan already, so I'll just keep going with that.
-icefest

I signed up for the 70$ byo testa plan the other month.. receive 3.5gb for upgrading 950 in calls and unlimited sms/mms... I grandfathered my previous plan from when I got my galaxy nexus due to the value dropping significantly in that time period up to now. I continually complained when they used to call to try and get you to upgrade. Nexus 6 will be preorder on first available date just like with the 9 last week
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Hi I have a query regarding the pricing / Network coverage/net speed and data bundles provided in Sydney /Australia. Could you please tell me about which network/sim should I go for ..?
I was using10GB mobile data per month in Abudhabi ....Currently I have an S2 and a Nexus 7 WiFi (I use the phone mobile data for tethering)..
My priority now is max Data >Budget>Coverage/Speed
I plan on getting the Nexus 6 in Jan/Feb2015 and would like to use the 4g to its max potential...
Thank you and have a nice day
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA Free mobile app

hooligan007 said:
Hi I have a query regarding the pricing / Network coverage/net speed and data bundles provided in Sydney /Australia. Could you please tell me about which network/sim should I go for ..?
I was using10GB mobile data per month in Abudhabi ....Currently I have an S2 and a Nexus 7 WiFi (I use the phone mobile data for tethering)..
My priority now is max Data >Budget>Coverage/Speed
I plan on getting the Nexus 6 in Jan/Feb2015 and would like to use the 4g to its max potential...
Thank you and have a nice day
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA Free mobile app
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Compare this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56279117&postcount=7
With this: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=australian+telco+coverage+map

Australian play store is up. Showing as coming soon, but prices are confirmed. Not pretty. ?

srthempo was
wow, google is really screwing us now. At current conversion rate US 650 comes to AUD 758, instead we'll have to pay AUD 869 for 32GB version, not happy at all. Not sure if delivery is on top of that or is included?
For AUD 60 more, 64GB device makes more sense if anyone buys, that is.
Edit: change AUD 30 to 60

dhaneri said:
wow, google is really screwing us now. At current conversion rate US 650 comes to AUD 758, instead we'll have to pay AUD 869 for 32GB version, not happy at all. Not sure if delivery is on top of that or is included?
For AUD 30 more, 64GB device makes more sense if anyone buys, that is.
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You mean $60 more for 64gb. And delivery will be another $50.

Availability in EU

Hi,
Looks like you can preorder Nexus 6P in US, UK, Canada. I'm still seeing "Coming soon" in Play Store Finland, as well as in Germany&Netherlands when trying via VPN. Has there been any mention anywhere when the availability will be broadened?

Yeah the same is happening? Last night it was Pre-order now, and this morning I check to buy it and it says Coming Soon.

ziadramman said:
Yeah the same is happening? Last night it was Pre-order now, and this morning I check to buy it and it says Coming Soon.
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not available in Italy too..tried to order from UK with VPN but it didn't ship to Italy.
Although I'm happy now it didn't...it's 150$ more then the US for the 6P.

tal123 said:
not available in Italy too..tried to order from UK with VPN but it didn't ship to Italy.
Although I'm happy now it didn't...it's 150$ more then the US for the 6P.
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Considering 24% VAT in Finland for example and with average US sales tax of 9%:
Buy it in US: $499 * 1,09 = $544 = 506€
Order it from US to EU via MyUs.com: 464€ * 1,24 + 20€ (shipping estimate) = 595€
Order from UK to other EU country: 636€ + 20€ (assuming there's some mailbox service in UK) = 656€
Wait and order it from local shop : 649€ * million of having to wait = Unbearable
Considering that you need power adapter in many cases if you order it from abroad, all options suck. Not no mention if US phones work in EU. How is it nowadays?

jpalo said:
Considering 24% VAT in Finland for example and with average US sales tax of 9%:
Buy it in US: $499 * 1,09 = $544 = 506€
Order it from US to EU via MyUs.com: 464€ * 1,24 + 20€ (shipping estimate) = 595€
Order from UK to other EU country: 636€ + 20€ (assuming there's some mailbox service in UK) = 656€
Wait and order it from local shop : 649€ * million of having to wait = Unbearable
Considering that you need power adapter in many cases if you order it from abroad, all options suck. Not no mention if US phones work in EU. How is it nowadays?
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I don't care..and nobody should. -same phone- should be the same price and not 50% more *after* USA taxes. The consumer shouldn't think about Google and VAT. We should only think about the final price and that one vs other prices around the globe(/USA). it's def a ripoff. What I will be doing though is just order and ship to a friend from the US that will bring it to me in a few weeks in hand. a week difference and no less then 150$ extra in your wallet..which is almost half of a new 5X!
Last time I did that(With the Nexus 5 and a Galaxy S4) I didn't have any issues with reception..if the carrier supports LTE then it will most likely run great in your country.
What really makes me angry is that if Google has official support for several countries outside of the US(and they don't support hundreds of countries officially in EU & Asia..only a few), then they should have the same pricing for them as the USA. Why do I need official support in the UK if it doesn't make the services cheaper? bah

Still waiting for preorder in Switzerland.. i'm getting pissed off waiting for so long now. They announced 26. October for Switzerland and as of now there is not any information about shipping available!
Devices seem to be shipping soon in Australia and India but no word on Europe ? WTF ?

On a German website is written that the 6P will be available by 9. November, marketing starts on 2. November.
I don't know how reliable that is but it's a well-known website here.
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d3sm0nd said:
Still waiting for preorder in Switzerland.. i'm getting pissed off waiting for so long now. They announced 26. October for Switzerland and as of now there is not any information about shipping available!
Devices seem to be shipping soon in Australia and India but no word on Europe ? WTF ?
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I called Google this afternoon and they told me to wait for an official announcement. Even the employee seemed lost.
Here is the contact data if you'd would like to try : https://support.google.com/store/answer/6178715?hl=fr

[Q] Ordering Moto X Force to USA

I'm thinking to buy Force from England or from Mexico. Anyone had similar experience? Am I'm going to be charged for duty, tax...? If yes, how much?

Why not getting one from VZW? I got it for $424 plus tax with $300 trade-in credit.

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Why not getting one from VZW?
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Because has locked bootloader and limited LTE bands.

I'm doing the same from Mexico. Much cheaper than via UK (no VAT), and there's no duty on cell phone imports in the U.S.

i've got 2 phones coming my way
1 to colorado, USA
and 1 to Canada
another one also in process.

Is that really cheaper than importing from UK? Moto.mx says the 32g costs 10499 mxn which is about 635usd. Buying from UK via clove technology, u pay 415 GBP which is about 630usd too. So essentially the same price. But you can build your own from Moto.mx while clove.uk only carries black.

Seventhwave said:
Is that really cheaper than importing from UK? Moto.mx says the 32g costs 10499 mxn which is about 635usd. Buying from UK via clove technology, u pay 415 GBP which is about 630usd too. So essentially the same price. But you can build your own from Moto.mx while clove.uk only carries black.
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Depends on currency fluctuations for the day, between U.S. dollar and Mexican peso and UK pound. Some days cheaper one way, some days the other.
But you pointed out the most important part -- through Mexico the ability to customize how you like.

ChazzMatt said:
Depends on currency fluctuations for the day, between U.S. dollar and Mexican peso and UK pound. Some days cheaper one way, some days the other.
But you pointed out the most important part -- through Mexico the ability to customize how you like.
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Just keep in mind that all customizations are extra. So you may end up paying more than just for plain black device from UK.
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Jaocagomez said:
i've got 2 phones coming my way
1 to colorado, USA
and 1 to Canada
another one also in process.
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This guy gets +1 because he did an excellent job at helping me bring over the Moto X Force into Canada for me. =)

I still have to send mine in to get a new color. I told them before that I wanted the global version that's unlocked. I spoke to "Richard" and he said that the phone doesn't have a global version and only works with Verizon. This guy clearly didn't know what he was talking about as I've been using it minus a band with T-Mobile since day one. But anyway I'm hoping to send this one in and have them send me an xforce. Think they'll do it? I paid full price for two of these and I don't want the locked Vzw one.

You want to send back T2 to replace with Force? To who?

Purchase from India?

So i'm seeing that the OnePlus 8 Pro 12GB is 59,999rs in India. In the USA it's $999.
However...
59,999rs converts to $780 USD. Thats a hell of a price! Has anyone found a way to purchase the phone in India and ship it to the states at that price?

PMad said:
So i'm seeing that the OnePlus 8 Pro 12GB is 59,999rs in India. In the USA it's $999.
However...
59,999rs converts to $780 USD. Thats a hell of a price! Has anyone found a way to purchase the phone in India and ship it to the states at that price?
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Due to countrywide lockdown the sale of it will not start atleast till 3rd May.
And even if you purchase after that you will have to pay a lot @ import taxes + courier, handling charges.

Here u need to pay 999€ (1085$).
I will skip OP8 Pro and Mi10 Pro (China 620€ and here also 999€) cuz even a S20+ is under 800€.
Forget about import from India, shipping, tax, etc. and new charger u need to buy.

PMad said:
So i'm seeing that the OnePlus 8 Pro 12GB is 59,999rs in India. In the USA it's $999.
However...
59,999rs converts to $780 USD. Thats a hell of a price! Has anyone found a way to purchase the phone in India and ship it to the states at that price?
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Just so you know, the handset won't be identical.
The Chinese/India version will be missing out on quite a few LTE/5G bands support in the states
4G Bands missing from China/India variant compared to US variant- B13, 25, 28, 29, 30, 66, 71
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https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/g5870q/psa_chinaindias_op8_is_cheaper_but_itll_be/

evilhomura89 said:
Just so you know, the handset won't be identical.
The Chinese/India version will be missing out on quite a few LTE/5G bands support in the states
https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/g5870q/psa_chinaindias_op8_is_cheaper_but_itll_be/
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What about band 41?

They saved a lot on the 5G certifications that's why it's a lot cheaper here, we are not even close to thinking about 5G right now, so they did a good strategy, include just one band for publicity..