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first thanks for giving me some of your time to share you experience
second i am getting my 1st android phone soon -isa-
so i suggested nexus 4 as i my android experince i trued alot of phones xperia arc s - SGY - Tablets running ICS - SG Ace + etc
my father suggested note 2 but i guess nexus 4 is more powerful in gaming (hardcore gaming) then i read about alot of CONs like lack of 4g which didn't matter of the non expanable memory which also didn't matter the camera isn't really good i tried to ignore it but the problem of the phone heat is what matters so Nexus 4 or Suggect a phone in the range of price the note 2 and the nexus 4 (the note 2 here costs about 535$ )
Go for it.
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If it'll be your first Android phone, I'd recommend the Nexus 4. You'll get the stock Android experience, have loads of customization and modding choices available, and get future Android updates first. Best part (imo) is that you can get the Nexus 4 for a reasonable price, up-front, and be carrier unlocked (usually carriers will either make you pay for the phone + $200 or so, or you'll pay an extra $100 or so over the course of a 2-year agreement plan; this is of course only the case if you can't get the phone straight from the manufacturer).
With any other non-Nexus device, you'll either have:
- OEM Skinned interface (usually lacking customization, and can even be more resource-hungry/battery draining)
- Slower or no updates (it's not unheard of for phones to release and never get updates to newer minor or major Android upgrades, or get them months later)
- Locked down environment (either carrier locked or bootloader locked, not be able to use any app you want (with T-Mobile for example, their branded phones can't use Google Wallet via legit means))
But non-Nexus devices aren't always bad either. OEM accessories are usually more plentiful on non-Nexus devices (take the Nexus 10 for example; we get a cover flap accessory months later after release, and that's it for official accessories; whereas Samsung probably has plenty of accessories for their actual Galaxy Tab lineup).
As for the Nexus 4's camera, I'm very impressed with it. To be fair though, I haven't really owned any "decent" camera prior to the Nexus 4 (had some webcams basically lol). The heat isn't really an issue either afaik (might be more of an issue with a completely stock device, but custom kernels allow you to undervolt and/or underclock).
I Am Marino said:
Go for it.
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If it'll be your first Android phone, I'd recommend the Nexus 4. You'll get the stock Android experience, have loads of customization and modding choices available, and get future Android updates first. Best part (imo) is that you can get the Nexus 4 for a reasonable price, up-front, and be carrier unlocked (usually carriers will either make you pay for the phone + $200 or so, or you'll pay an extra $100 or so over the course of a 2-year agreement plan; this is of course only the case if you can't get the phone straight from the manufacturer).
With any other non-Nexus device, you'll either have:
- OEM Skinned interface (usually lacking customization, and can even be more resource-hungry/battery draining)
- Slower or no updates (it's not unheard of for phones to release and never get updates to newer minor or major Android upgrades, or get them months later)
- Locked down environment (either carrier locked or bootloader locked, not be able to use any app you want (with T-Mobile for example, their branded phones can't use Google Wallet via legit means))
But non-Nexus devices aren't always bad either. OEM accessories are usually more plentiful on non-Nexus devices (take the Nexus 10 for example; we get a cover flap accessory months later after release, and that's it for official accessories; whereas Samsung probably has plenty of accessories for their actual Galaxy Tab lineup).
As for the Nexus 4's camera, I'm very impressed with it. To be fair though, I haven't really owned any "decent" camera prior to the Nexus 4 (had some webcams basically lol). The heat isn't really an issue either afaik (might be more of an issue with a completely stock device, but custom kernels allow you to undervolt and/or underclock).
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not really new cause i use android for more that a year and i can use odin or CMW etc
so with nexus 4 i can make more than Note II as for gaming ? cause iam really afraid about the heating problem and i don't go to a places which have weak signal here home it's always Full 3G on My E71 and else on Ryad KSA so .. if u used note 2 is it better and does the signal which make it hot and finally thanks for ur time
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not really new cause i use android for more that a year and i can use odin or CMW etc
so with nexus 4 i can make more than Note II as for gaming ? cause iam really afraid about the heating problem and i don't go to a places which have weak signal here home it's always Full 3G on My E71 and else on Ryad KSA so ..
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It all depends on what type of games you are trying to play. If you play games like Modern Combat, Batman, NOVA, and etc. Then more screen size would be ideal, even though the nexus 4 can handle those games with ease, it might just feel hotter because of the glass. Whereas, the Note 2 and 99.9% have either plastic or aluminum backs. A TPU case can help with the heat or any case at that. Just don't try to play the games for 2-3 hours with the GPU overclocked +100Mhz, that will not be wise.
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It all depends on what type of games you are trying to play. If you play games like Modern Combat, Batman, NOVA, and etc. Then more screen size would be ideal, even though the nexus 4 can handle those games with ease, it might just feel hotter because of the glass. Whereas, the Note 2 and 99.9% have either plastic or aluminum backs. A TPU case can help with the heat or any case at that. Just don't try to play the games for 2-3 hours with the GPU overclocked +100Mhz, that will not be wise.
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i don't know any thing about overclocking and i just now that n4 won't need overclocking or downclocking (or what ever it's callled ) except in saving battery and if the heat doesn't damage the hard ware i don't care so doesn't it damage the hardware and as u are a nexus 4 user would u call it The Superb Phone even over Samsung G Note 2 ?
Wait until the 15th to make a decision, google will make announcements. Just my 2 cents.
The N4 with it's S4 Pro is indeed more smoother than the Samsung S4 with a S600. Why because the OS is better optimised.
Whatever phone you get is down to you, I've been through phones with Sense and TouchWiz but once you go stock Android it's hard to use a skinned version. Nexus devices will always be up to date software wise compared to Non Nexus devices and they will have much longer support from Google and Devs for future releases.
Your money, your call, whatever phone you get you'll enjoy it.
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The N4 with it's S4 Pro is indeed more smoother than the Samsung S4 with a S600. Why because the OS is better optimised.
Whatever phone you get is down to you, I've been through phones with Sense and TouchWiz but once you go stock Android it's hard to use a skinned version. Nexus devices will always be up to date software wise compared to Non Nexus devices and they will have much longer support from Google and Devs for future releases.
Your money, your call, whatever phone you get you'll enjoy it.
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Hhhhhhh that's one of the best comments i've ever read but i wan't to ask u as a nexus 4 user do u enjoy it more than samsungs crap the s pen is why asked about note 2 but how long can u play with n4 in one charge ؟
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DaRkEMpRoR said:
Hhhhhhh that's one of the best comments i've ever read but i wan't to ask u as a nexus 4 user do u enjoy it more than samsungs crap the s pen is why asked about note 2 but how long can u play with n4 in one charge ؟
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I had the Note 2 and it suffered tinting issues and had crappy Pentile screen so I returned it. Don't get me wrong it's a lovely phone. Depends what you want with Nexus devices you have the latest stock software some find it boring some love it. With skinned versions you get extra features like airview etc on TouchWiz, however it takes longer for them to release newer versions of Android.
Battery is fine I run custom kernels and lasts me a whole day on WiFi can get over 5 hours screen on time playing some basic games and such.
It's fast and smooth hardly any lag, great development.
Only thing I dislike is the camera other than that I love it.
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I had the Note 2 and it suffered tinting issues and had crappy Pentile screen so I returned it. Don't get me wrong it's a lovely phone. Depends what you want with Nexus devices you have the latest stock software some find it boring some love it. With skinned versions you get extra features like airview etc on TouchWiz, however it takes longer for them to release newer versions of Android.
Battery is fine I run custom kernels and lasts me a whole day on WiFi can get over 5 hours screen on time playing some basic games and such.
It's fast and smooth hardly any lag, great development.
Only thing I dislike is the camera other than that I love it.
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really thanks so i guess i will buy nexus 4 cause a camera better than my e71 or asha 311 is fare enough for Me
and finally thanks for your time
I live in India as well and I purchased the Nexus 4 about 2 weeks ago - *just* missed the 303K revision and I got the 301K without the little feet added to the back to raise it up ever so slightly (check the S/N i.e. Serial Number). Apart from LTE (barely useful in 3 cities across India) and 32GB storage (depends on yours usage - 16GB with 12.95GB usable is enough for me) there haven't been rumours of other STOP-DON'T-BUY updates to it. If you can wait till next week, by all means, do that, otherwise the Nexus 4 is a great buy for now and a while to come.
On a side note: Personally I'm loving the phone, however 3G signal is a bit poor while roaming and that causes my battery to really drain, so I'm using a toggle to turn it on when I want. Though, I want to find a way to make a gesture do that instead, let's see.
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I live in India as well and I purchased the Nexus 4 about 2 weeks ago - *just* missed the 303K revision and I got the 301K without the little feet added to the back to raise it up ever so slightly (check the S/N i.e. Serial Number). Apart from LTE (barely useful in 3 cities across India) and 32GB storage (depends on yours usage - 16GB with 12.95GB usable is enough for me) there haven't been rumours of other STOP-DON'T-BUY updates to it. If you can wait till next week, by all means, do that, otherwise the Nexus 4 is a great buy for now and a while to come.
On a side note: Personally I'm loving the phone, however 3G signal is a bit poor while roaming and that causes my battery to really drain, so I'm using a toggle to turn it on when I want. Though, I want to find a way to make a gesture do that instead, let's see.
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i guess i will w8 and see what will they change
i don't know why every one one internet is telling me to choose note 2 but ian afraid that samsung doesn't release much updates as Nexus 4 or i will be disappointed by the battery or the s pen is very good the good screen iam really confused about my choise
Go play with them don't let other people influence your decision, go to a shop, try them out, get a feel for them, then enjoy.
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Go play with them don't let other people influence your decision, go to a shop, try them out, get a feel for them, then enjoy.
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what about your opinion i would really care of it as you are a note 2 and a nexus 4 user and i can't try any one of them cause i buy them online and my father need me to choose so i can get it when i travel to him
I love my Nexus 4 and I don't suffer from any of the problems that some people suffer from. Some people expect the PERFECT phone but It all depends on how anal you are about your stuff. I've played plenty of games and I haven't had any problems.
No problems with my N4 just pure fun Had it since November.
iam just saying that i can wait for another 3 or even 6 months if the New nexus 5 will be launched !
so do u think it 'll be launched before the end of this year
If you wait you'll always be waiting for the next best thing. New phones due out this year, new LG phone, Sony with a big camera, rumoured Motorola X Phone, Nexus 5, iPhone 5s, Galaxy Note 3, probably HTC One+ or HTC 5" screen, the you have the Chinese brands, Oppo, ZTE, Huawei. Probably what I've listed next new big things.
If your happy with your current phone wait until you are ready to buy otherwise if you want something now Nexus 4 at its price is a very good phone simply for stock Android and software updates.
The day you buy a new phone it becomes old and a successor or new beast will always be on its way.
The Note 2 was good but a little too big for my small hands, the camera is better on the Note than Nexus. Nexus wins purely for software updates, excellent development, and it's the smoothest Android phone I've ever had, running custom rom and kernel.
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Hi guys,
I am having some serious thoughts on what to get... Basically I am a software developer and I have a Galaxy Nexus, a Galaxy S1 some ond Xperia and a Nexus 7. It is time for me to switch to a new device as my daily driver. The options I have are Galaxy Nexus 5 and the Note 3. The Note 3 is more expensive with around 150$ in my country, considering the type of contract I am getting. The phone will be used for at least one year.
Nexus 5: well, no review yet. Price is reasonable in my country and has the new 4.4. The new android version doesn't impress me. To be honest I find the google experience pretty boring but I have to admit I liked receiving fast updates on my Nexus.
Note 3: I have been reading around the forum for the last days. I saw that many have problems with the home button, the battery life, the screen issues. I like the s-pen features but I am not sure how much I'll use them.
What advice do you give me ? What should I get ?
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Hi guys,
I am having some serious thoughts on what to get... Basically I am a software developer and I have a Galaxy Nexus, a Galaxy S1 some ond Xperia and a Nexus 7. It is time for me to switch to a new device as my daily driver. The options I have are Galaxy Nexus 5 and the Note 3. The Note 3 is more expensive with around 150$ in my country, considering the type of contract I am getting. The phone will be used for at least one year.
Nexus 5: well, no review yet. Price is reasonable in my country and has the new 4.4. The new android version doesn't impress me. To be honest I find the google experience pretty boring but I have to admit I liked receiving fast updates on my Nexus.
Note 3: I have been reading around the forum for the last days. I saw that many have problems with the home button, the battery life, the screen issues. I like the s-pen features but I am not sure how much I'll use them.
What advice do you give me ? What should I get ?
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i have galaxy note 3 but if i time returns i will choose nexus 5
Please mention your reasons. It would help me a lot. Thanks
I'm using note 3 at the moment and my nexus 5 is on its way to me, will give more accurate impression once received.
Features I prefer nexus 5 over note 3
Design look and feel (massive improvement)
No TW bloatware (another massive factor)
Easier to carry around
More regular software updates kat 4.4
No lag freezing (hopefully)
Features I will miss coming from note 3
camera not impressed at all (will miss that the most)
4k video recording
Battery life
S-pen (just a little)
Multi screens (what a feature)
Large screen
Ext memory
Have you encountered any problems with the Note 3 ? Does it lag ? Do you have that effect on low brightness for dark borders ? How does TW bloatware affect you ?
Battery wise note has 50%more juice. Home button issues - do you mean the button moving around? It is not a problem, people are too much complaining about tiny tiny things they should never find unless they read about it.
Camera - i think nexus5 is way better than n3. Its not the pixels that matter, or software options. Nexus 5 camera is next level, focus is about 10 times faster.
Bloatware yes, samsung puts 700mb of bloatware that you dont receive on nexus. Not sure if anything of that is usable. But cyanogenmod should arrive soon!
I wish note3 had the new camera and with optical stabilization, then it would be perfect!
As for 4.4 - its just a number. There will definitely arrive new android versions fast on the n3, just that you have to flash it yourself and void the warranty.
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I like Nexus because:
- The design of the device and the appearance of the UI is more appealing to me. I like to keep things on my phone looking pretty "minimalistic" with few colors and lots and lots of black. I absolutely hate the Touchwiz cartoony look and I always change everything about it, the process starts immediately on first boot of the phone. Everything about Touchwiz looks awful - the icons, the menus, the choices in colors, those horrible big green quick settings toggles in the notification bar. Stock Android is much much better when it comes to looks. The Nexus 5 and its software looks like it's been designed by a design team made up of adults who actually make cohesive decisions together. Touchwiz looks to me like the school project of a pre-school class where everyone can add their favorite color and everyone gets to participate and add their touch to the design. Little Johnny wants a big blue, round icon there - OK let's put it right next to Jenny's rectangular pink icon there and add Lisa's green toggles! Fun for everybody.
I like Note 2/3 because:
- The battery is bigger. I've never been this satisfied with battery life.
- The screen is bigger. Honestly after using the Note 2, I cringe every time I use my iPhone 4 (I keep it as my spare phone) or my wife's Galaxy S III. The displays are so tiny, I don't think I could go back. Not even to a 5" display.
- I don't like the on screen nav buttons of stock Android. I want the physical menu, home and back buttons.
- The S-Pen. I'm not a heavy S-Pen user but it has really nice features on the Note 3. I use it much more with my Note 3 than I did with my Note 2.
- Memory card slot. Seriously. I could not live without one.
- Removable battery - not a big reason but nonetheless it is nice.
I hate the Note 2/3 because:
- I get to a point where I'm never satisfied with the ROM I use. New stuff is released on XDA and I feel this pressing need to try other ROMs. All the time. Sometimes it seems all I do with my phone is restoring backups. With the Nexus I think that I would be more easily able to just stick with one ROM.. Maybe even the stock ROM, just rooting it.
Don't listen to them
I just bought Note 3 after using Note 2 for couple of months
And go for Note 3 believe me this is the beast .. Note 3 Snap dragon
I am in the same boat as op.
I have a s2 now for 3 years and looking for an upgrade.
Minimum 5 inch screen, preferably a tad bigger.
Key feature should be office workability, due to a upcoming promotion as a project manager.
So I need info from all sorts of documents on the fly. Including excel.
Does the note provide this?
For free time I love playing games and viewing movies.
Help appreciated.
EJ
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U may have to wait for few weeks to get the full hands on review about this. Nexus 5. The specs r good. But we don't know about battery life, camera performance, and heating issues. Note 3 is good in these areas.
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I am planning on using the Note 3 with stock firmware from Samsung... because of warranty issues of knox trigger. This would also help on trying to reproduce bugs that appear on TouchWiz platform easier. So, having stock on Note3 sucks performance wise ?
efjbdejong said:
I am in the same boat as op.
I have a s2 now for 3 years and looking for an upgrade.
Minimum 5 inch screen, preferably a tad bigger.
Key feature should be office workability, due to a upcoming promotion as a project manager.
So I need info from all sorts of documents on the fly. Including excel.
Does the note provide this?
For free time I love playing games and viewing movies.
Help appreciated.
EJ
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Perhaps wait for nokia lumia 1520.
That's ideal for such mundane tasks. Lol
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alleshi said:
Don't listen to them
I just bought Note 3 after using Note 2 for couple of months
And go for Note 3 believe me this is the beast .. Note 3 Snap dragon
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Note 3 is far better then note 2 for sure but is it the best ow no. It's a beast but not the best.
If i didn't have the Note 3 already i would be pretty tempted to buy the Nexus 5. It's half the price, here, with great hardware, Kit Kat, Google updates, etc. But those touch buttons (why?) on the screen are a no no for me.
Thank you all for replies. After doing a lot of reading on the Buyers remorse thread I see that most of note3 users are happy. The only notable problems are: very weak audio output because of the small speaker, the pink effect around black edges on low brightness settings and the wobbly home button. Also I see that the battery isn't so great.
I am really thinking what to get, as I said, the difference would be around 150$ in price.
If I didn't have N3 already I would have the N5. I had N4 previously.
N3 has plus and minus points.
+ points
Battery Life - best I ever had
SD Card - installed 64GB,some users have install 128GB.
Big Screen - I like the screen some don't like AMOLED colors.
Fastest CPU & 3GB RAM
Multi Window & Pen Window
IrDA port - can control devices from my phone.
- points
Design - not very stylish
Build quality - my back cover already creaks only 1 month old. Others have experienced Home button and screen/multi touch issues
External Speakers - embarrassing from Samsung.
Samsung bloatware - unnecessary
Wireless Charging - not built in but @ extra cost
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Costum ROM
why wouldn't you just wait on xda to get pure 4.4 android and install that ROM on your note 3 ?
Hi,
the Google Nexus 5 is indeed a very good phone. Having switched from Nexus 4 to Galaxy Note 3 I can basically give you good explanations.
The Galaxy Note 3 has plenty more features than the Google Nexus 4 abd 5 which is great.
I would say the Note 3 wins everywhere against the Nexus unless you tell me you prefer smaller screen. In my case, the screen size was the reasob why I moved.
On the otherside, yes there are a lot of Samsung apps and that sucks to me. The Galaxy Note 3 can be rooted easily, so you can easy remove those bloatwares which make me feel more confortable that way.
On the other hand, I do prefer the PURE Androis that the Google Nexus has to the TouchWiz by Samsung because it uses way less resources.
The perfect phone for me would be a Note 3 with a AOSP Rom. (CyanogenMod or Android Open Kang Project (AOKP) because it would give the pure android feeling which means higher battery life, no bloatwares, faster updates.
Ok guys, some N5 reviews have appeared and to be honest, things don't look that good in battery and camera departments. Actually that was kinda expected considering the 2300 mAh battery and 1080p screen.
Now back to note 3, all the small things that bothered me (wobbly home button, pinkish black borders, bloatware) are not important anymore. The things that worries me most is the screen burn in. I saw some reviews where this is mentioned (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3mbkoXCMhs&feature=em-uploademail from 19 minute). I have own so far a Galaxy S1 and a Galaxy Nexus both having amoled screens. On my GNex sometimes I can see the keyboard shadow after using it, but I haven't really noticed any permanent retention as it goes off after a few seconds. I just did a quick check with blue color all over the screen and I can see a very faint shadow of the top bar, but nothing really noticeable. BUT, I use the phone on auto brightness and considering that Note 3 has the most bright amoled display built, I am afraid that it will suffer from permanent burn in because of blue pixels. Could anyone tell me if they have burn in ? This is a major drawback for me and might be the point which may convince me to give up on note3 in favor of N5.
Thanks all for your help. I really appreciate it.
For me it's so simple. They don't even belong to the same category.
Do you need/like the S-Pen features (and do you actually use them)? Do you need the bigger screen and the amazing Full HD @60fps video (let alone the 4K)?
If not then the Nexus 5 is a no brainer at this price point. Plain and simple.
Apps and bloatware are of no importance to me. I always remove them to my preference, to me flashing ROMs is an integral part of a smartphone like Note 3.
I agree with you, but if the screen has issues than all the other features are pointless, considering that the screen is the thing we see most.
It would be really great if owners could do some screen tests and return with the result.
My brother bought a Nexus 5 and he doesn´t like it. He said if I want we can change (my note 2 for his Nexus 5) and despite the bovious prices difference what you do in my place? I am very satisfied with my Samsung and will put a new rom to give a extra live (it has official 4.4.2).
Thanks and sorry for my bad english
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My brother bought a Nexus 5 and he doesn´t like it. He said if I want we can change (my note 2 for his Nexus 5) and despite the bovious prices difference what you do in my place? I am very satisfied with my Samsung and will put a new rom to give a extra live (it has official 4.4.2).
Thanks and sorry for my bad english
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If you can compromise with battery life and screen size then go for it. Snapdragon 800 will blow your mind. Camera is also not that great in N5 but it'll do the job just right.
I say go for it.
I don't know if that is a good idea, I'd keep the Note. You can't really compare these 2 devices in terms of Performance. N5 runs stock, N2 runs TouchWiz. Stock Android is and will always be buttery smooth. TouchWiz can also be quite smooth and that stuff but yeah, it is a skin of Android which might be not so smooth and fast all the time but with KitKat, it's pretty fast.
N5 has a really small battery and the Note 2s battery blows the N5 out of the way. N5s display is LCD and the N2 has a SAMOLED Display but lower PPI but anyways, think twice, seriously. I had the Nexus 4 for 2 months and I missed my Note 2 so much, the Nexus 4 was really crap compared to the Note.
Just my 2 cents.
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Never ever, cause Nexus may be fast, smooth and other pleasant things, but in fact and from my point of view: BORING
You can have pure Android experience on Note 2 too (AOSP-roms), but you'll never feel the flexibility of having S5, Note 3 features or even Note 2 S-Pen on a Nexus.
If someone would donate me a Nexus I would sell it to even get a second N2.
Thanx for the answers; it´s really hard to decide and the phones can´t be compared. The only way to both be satisfied that I can think now is, I change with him, sell the nexus and buy a note 3... Here in Souht America the prices are very different (almost twice the price for a nexus 5 new to one used N2).
Ok i own a galaxy nexus right now, about nexus devices being boring is a fact they are, but when that happens u just swap your rom, this week i will have my note 2 back, however i will not sell galaxy nexus for now
The advantages
galaxy nexus
always updated,
butter smooth,
a lot of customization,
The disadvantages
no memory card,
recovery problems, cause of internal storage(once i ve done a full wipe and i had no rom on it, a big mess)
note 2
big screen (major advantage)
battery
sdcard
disadvantages
serious software problems(SDS)
my final veredict is, if you are a flashoolic and u just love custom roms, go for a nexus(of course you will have to say goodbye to battery and screen) if u just dont like to flash roms that much and u seek more for watch moovies or play hd games stick with the note,
keep also in mind that u can sell the nexus and buy a note 3 with some more money
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big screen (major advantage)
battery
sdcard
disadvantages
serious software problems(SDS)
my final veredict is, if you are a flashoolic and u just love custom roms, go for a nexus(of course you will have to say goodbye to battery and screen) if u just dont like to flash roms that much and u seek more for watch moovies or play hd games stick with the note,
keep also in mind that u can sell the nexus and buy a note 3 with some more money
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Kindly disagreed:
SDS is mostly a myth and overrated (whenever phone freezes, people start crying about SDS)
I can port nearly every device on Note 2 but no Touchwiz rom on a nexus (just take a look around Dev forum and my signature).
So, for flashoholics like me there is only Note. :angel:
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Kindly disagreed:
SDS is mostly a myth and overrated (whenever phone freezes, people start crying about SDS)
I can port nearly every device on Note 2 but no Touchwiz rom on a nexus (just take a look around Dev forum and my signature).
So, for flashoholics like me there is only Note. :angel:
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Respectfully disagreed,
I am a regular follower of XDA and some sites and flash many things just even to try sometimes. I also get bored easily with regular software and like to try new ways of using the phone.
If you like to use Note 2 "as is" then it is still a great phone (even greater than some newer phones). However trying new things with that phone is not about discovering what's new on the developers' world, instead it is mostly about "trying a new cure"..
I recently updated my Note 2 to 4.4.2 and then broke my warranty out of curiosity. TW KitKat is really good for people who are looking for a good phone. But then I went for Paranoid Android. The next thing I was looking for to flash was a camera cure because of the problematic camera. After that got solved, now my WiFi is not turning on without a restart and there is not even one person who mentions it on the main topic (I will, but...). In addition to that there is very low volume problem of the sound recording (whether it be a video or just voice) and there is no solution to this either.
I had bought a Nexus 4 and given my Note 2 to my sister. After 5 months she wanted my Nexus and offered my Note 2 back. I couldn't say no cause she really wanted it. Now I have two data coming from two different persons, one is a flashocolic and the other is just a user who likes iPhones etc. The one thing in common is that they both prefer the Nexus.
Because there is really a solution to everything on the Nexus world, software-wise. But here, on Note 2's world, it's like yesterday that the devs were reprehending people with complaints by saying "do it yourself if you can!!!" out of the anger to Samsung not sharing sources.
There is solution to Nexus battery problems too (you could call that a problem only after a Note). Just buy a power bank and you'll get even more battery time than a Note.
On the camera wise, Note 2 is really good. I believe that is the only thing without a solution for a Nexus device. A Nexus sometimes can match with Note 2's camera but never outdo it.
For every other thing you want or you might wanna have in the future, a Nexus is a better and more open possibility..
Sent from my Galaxy Note II using XDA Free mobile app
Androidwizzard said:
Kindly disagreed:
SDS is mostly a myth and overrated (whenever phone freezes, people start crying about SDS)
I can port nearly every device on Note 2 but no Touchwiz rom on a nexus (just take a look around Dev forum and my signature).
So, for flashoholics like me there is only Note. :angel:
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Can i ask you how many notes2 have u had?
well i had 2 and both died in the night, i couldnt do nothing, `
so please dont tell me that sds doesn't exist, "i had nightmeers about it ahah"
now im getting my note 2 after a Motherboard replacement.
and whats this and this
I do not want to convince anybody. It is only my point of view at the beginning of developing own roms and the possibilities with this ancient device are still outstanding. Certainly better is the Note 3 and the upcoming Note 4.
My dream is Xperia Z2 on Note 2 with S-Pen features and hopefully soon...... :fingers-crossed:
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hackerse7en said:
Can i ask you how many notes2 have u had?
well i had 2 and both died in the night, i couldnt do nothing, `
so please dont tell me that sds doesn't exist, "i had nightmeers about it ahah"
now im getting my note 2 after a Motherboard replacement.
and whats this and this
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I am supporting on several forums and in many languages and I have seen SDS in realty.
BUT and that is also true: If thousand users ask, if they maybe have SDS cause device seems to die, always freezes, bootloops aso. there is not even one who really suffers from that issue.
And at last your links to Sammy roms on Nexus: You can't be serious to compare that kind of stuff with the abilities of S-Pen.
Kind regards
Androidwizzard said:
I do not want to convince anybody. It is only my point of view at the beginning of developing own roms and the possibilities with this ancient device are still outstanding. Certainly better is the Note 3 and the upcoming Note 4.
My dream is Xperia Z2 on Note 2 with S-Pen features and hopefully soon...... :fingers-crossed:
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I am supporting on several forums and in many languages and I have seen SDS in realty.
BUT and that is also true: If thousand users ask, if they maybe have SDS cause device seems to die, always freezes, bootloops aso. there is not even one who really suffers from that issue.
And at last your links to Sammy roms on Nexus: You can't be serious to compare that kind of stuff with the abilities of S-Pen.
Kind regards
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REALLY!?!?
THIS IS A DEVICE FROM 2011 with these specs
can u tell me what was the first device receiving a port on htc sense 6?
well let's see if note 2 gets first android L than galaxy nexus?
i'm not triyng to convince anybody either, i'm just seiing things as they are, and note 1,2 and 3 are devices with remarcable specs on hardware, but in therms of updates and customization u know who rules.
I have my N2 for about a year and half, and never ever been in trouble with it: good battery life, specs and apps, but to tell the truth I use the s-pen just a few days... It´s like new in this moment as I recently installed the DN3 (awesome rom).
Please, who has the Nexus 5, what is the estimated time of battery (use my N2 without bluetooth disbled only and supports a entire day) and what can be done to enhance it?
hackerse7en said:
REALLY!?!?
THIS IS A DEVICE FROM 2011 with these specs
can u tell me what was the first device receiving a port on htc sense 6?
well let's see if note 2 gets first android L than galaxy nexus?
i'm not triyng to convince anybody either, i'm just seiing things as they are, and note 1,2 and 3 are devices with remarcable specs on hardware, but in therms of updates and customization u know who rules.
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No doubt about that last statement :good:
Note 2 will never get Android L. for sure, BUT developers will port it to N2 anyway and anyhow in the near future :highfive:
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No doubt about that last statement :good:
Note 2 will never get Android L. for sure, BUT developers will port it to N2 anyway and anyhow in the near future :highfive:
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lets hope so, i will get mine this week :angel:
That´s right, the community of N2 is strong and with no doubt we will have the Android L... Well, let´s study about this negociation N2 x N5...
I guess I am losing some arguements here..
For those who believe S Pen is on top of the "advantages list", that 1024 different pressure senser is only functioning for some of the Samsung built-in apps and an all called Papyrus (as far as I know). Besides, as a person who losev to draw/sketch (and take notes with hand writing) I have now 2 options; a Nexus 7 with bigger screen and a good touch-pen (which can be bouth seperately from anywhere) or my Note 2 with a special pen but also with a smaller screen. I ca nassure you, bigger screen has the advantage here so IF you are into professioanal drawing with all the bells and whisles of that pen either buy a pen and touch-mat set for your laptop or get a Note 10.1. Note 2 (or any 5.x " sized place ) is only suitable for small sketches and hand writing notes which gives nothing to the pressure differentiation. So, basicly it's a feature and it's there. Of course I am note taking it as an disadvantage, but it's not a choice changer.
For those who picks the battery life as a winner; that is definetely true. If you want all your time in one housing any Note phone is a way to go. But if we are calculating the total volume, than a regular phone with an external battery or powerbank would be almost same.
For those who enjoy the big screen and out ir on top of the list; now that's unique. however it's hard to write with one hand -say, on the bus- no matter how big your hands are. And when you are confortable to use the dervice in any way you like, only than the screen size comes as an advantage. But -like in the pen situation- if yo reallty want a bigger screen, this is just a big phone, not a tablet.
One more thing with the screen, it's one of the best screens Samsung has ever made. But today every brand is giving bigger screens to their devices and the colors are much better on most of other phones. Please don't tell me AMOLED is the future with it's super blacks of infinite contrasts etc. Any Xperia screen, or any of he last 2 Nexuses have better screens and much more accurate color reproduction. Even though Samsung has given us 4 scenerios to choose, there is no "true" color choice there. And there is no true whites on that screen. So, black is just one color (which Samsung also fails to give us, look carefully and most of you'll notice that blacks are not same everywhere on the screen) to brag, but all the other colors are unrealistic.
For those who wants to give the credit to the Wolfson sound chip, now that's correct Nothing to say here. Quallcomm is just getting warmt with their new SoCs on the music busniess and we all know HTC's afforts are mostly for advertising.
And also the camera, maybe the best of it's time. Sadly it is bought from Sony but all the camera software and HAL is completely re-written by Samsung and not shared to the public. So any AOSP ROM lovers has to deal with problems on the camera (I believe, the devs that made to this far created a miracle, not thanks to SAmsung of course)
And about ROM porting; IF TouchWiz is so good why need for porting frıom other ROMs? AOSP is so "empty" for some people so they port other ROMs to Nexus phones or they create AOSP for other phones so they can be clean and open. But why port Xperie and Sense ROMs to a TouchWiz based and un-shared device? I guess deep down we all know, no matter how much goodness it contains inside, TouchWiz will make everyone bored and feel unprofessional?
And the Samsung build quality, I wish there was a way to ignore this.
Please don't misunderstand me. I love my Note 2. It would be an incredebly better and longer lifed device if Samsung shared more about it. But I don't see ant of its features as unique and irreplacable. And Nexus 5 has a bigger family with an easier life for an average XDA follower (or for just a curious person)
Probably will change the devices until wednesday and return to post my impressions. As my brother wish a lot since I buy the N2 and the difference in prices here I can´t say no. In last scenary I´ll sell or change the N5 for another phablet... thanks to everyone who asked and post comments.
I'll take N5 if I were you because I prefer stock!:good:
take the N5, sell it, buy another N2, keep the profit.
dude i have both nexus 5 and note 2(both active usage) with kitkat
FOR ME ,i love the nexus 5
nexus 5 is more compact,light ,performance beast,nice and fast ui,quick updates,high res screen without oversaturated tones,nice camera(with hdr+)
BUT
if battery life is really what you need then go for note2 ..i get about 22hrs-23hrs of usage with a bit less than 3hrs screen ontime with nexus 5
with note 2 i get just a bit less than 2 days with the same usage
but nexus 5 has heating issues
note 2 has expandable memory which might be a big deal for some people(me),and much louder speaker,big screen size
...go with n5 but if u need battery,expandable storage,and s-pen..and lag then go for note2
Hey guys!
Its almost the end of September and i am looking to buy a brand new SGS 4 Black edition i9505.
The question is , is it rly worth it ? To spend the money on it ? How does it perform nowadays ? Tell me all the pros and cons please !
Have a good day!
just do it!
is the perfect device!
i have my I9505 for about 3 month now and is all i can dream about!
Three month ago i was able to choose from S4 I9505, Galaxy S5 and Note 3....
Foe me S4 I9505 is the perfect device....until Galaxy S6 will come
how is the battery life? im thinking of buying it, staying on touchwiz for a day or two then switching to cyanogen
what accesories do u use? did u find anything that bothers you about the device? thanks
on kitkat 4.4.2 stock offical, no root, using it as ussually, voice, wifi, gaming...for me is about 2 days of battery, now it's depending of user
all i use for it is official original as accessories...
nothing to bother, except KNOX because i cant have root, but with the help of xda and all the good people here you can rrot ie, but i want it to be stock official and keep the warranty...
Pros:-
- Been out for 18 months now so far cheaper than Samsung S5/LG G3 and other newer flagships.
- It still cuts the mustard CPU/GPU wise, you will find nothing that this device can't run smoothly.
- Good quality camera.
- Very good 1080p screen, something (Cr)Apple have only just caught up with on their phones (and even then, only on the 5.5" iPhone).
- Thanks to Qualcomm's Snapdragon architecture (as opposed to Samsung's in the I9500), you're spoilt for choice in terms of stable custom roms.
- Thousands of accessories and cases to cater for all tastes.
Cons:-
- The camera might be good quality, but the shutter speed is painful. Catching the moment can be a big issue.
- Everything runs fine and smooth, but play a 3D game like Minecraft or Real Racing 3 for more than 5 minutes and damn it gets hot.
- Build quality not fantastic, something Samsung realised and improved a lot with the S5. But keep it in a case and look after it and it will be fine. I've had mine for 18 months and it still looks brand new.
- Knox and potential warranty issues, although this is something you will have to deal with on any new Samsung phone. The good thing now though is that you can root and install custom stock roms without tripping Knox.
http://www.tocmai.ro/husa-s-view-spigen-activa-pt-samsung-galaxy-s4-noua-flip-18912443.html im thinking of buying such a case, i know its fake but its under 10$ :-?? what cases do u recommend ?
charris said:
Hey guys!
Its almost the end of September and i am looking to buy a brand new SGS 4 Black edition i9505.
The question is , is it rly worth it ? To spend the money on it ? How does it perform nowadays ? Tell me all the pros and cons please !
Have a good day!
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Now you can get a S5 for almost 32-34k here in India. And 25-27k for an s4.
S5 us anyday better if youre not upgrading from an s4.
Press Thanks if I helped
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DeepankarS said:
Now you can get a S5 for almost 32-34k here in India. And 25-27k for an s4.
S5 us anyday better if youre not upgrading from an s4.
Press Thanks if I helped
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here in Romania u get the S5 for 2300-2700 our currency, and i get the S4 for 1300 our currency thats why..
charris said:
here in Romania u get the S5 for 2300-2700 our currency, and i get the S4 for 1300 our currency thats why..
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That is a big big difference mate. Very big.
Go for the s4 then haha
Everything us a pro on it except the over heating part.
Everything is fabulous :')
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Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4 via XDA app.
DeepankarS said:
That is a big big difference mate. Very big.
Go for the s4 then haha
Everything us a pro on it except the over heating part.
Everything is fabulous :')
Press Thanks if I helped
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4 via XDA app.
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how do i get a custom rom without turning the knox into 0x1 ?
charris said:
how do i get a custom rom without turning the knox into 0x1 ?
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You cannot. Because anything custom sets the trigger to 0X1.
You can use towelroot by downgrading the official kernel..then towel root..then upgrading it back.
Just the kernel
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DeepankarS said:
You cannot. Because anything custom sets the trigger to 0X1..
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/general/guide-how-to-install-custom-roms-t2852310
Incorrect. Custom stock roms can be installed if you follow the right procedure. Custom roms based upon CM/AOKP/AOSP cannot be installed though.
Pagnell said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/general/guide-how-to-install-custom-roms-t2852310
Incorrect. Custom stock roms can be installed if you follow the right procedure. Custom roms based upon CM/AOKP/AOSP cannot be installed though.
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Ahhh..nice ^_^
Thanks for the info.
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what do u think of the phone? pros and cons. btw why we cant install cm without 0x1?
charris said:
what do u think of the phone? pros and cons. btw why we cant install cm without 0x1?
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Buddy the phone is awesome.!
It is quite nice as compared to many out in the market.
Cm wont work because it is non touchwiz maybe.
According to the link..it does not have anything related to samsung or any of its components.
It is pure android.
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Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4 via XDA app.
The S4 is one of the best phones you can get right now in terms of value for money. Its about 340euro's over here and for that you get a 1 year old flagship phone that is still high end in most of its specs:
- The screen: not as good as the screen on the S5 but still pretty damn good
- The camera: same as above^
- The processor: good enough to do pretty much anything lagfree. Okay it doesn't score as high as the newest processors in benchmarks, but in dayly use you wont notice anything from that.
- The battery life is decent and gets you through the day. And if it isn't enough you can just swap the battery with anorther one and you're good to go.
The only weakness I see for the future is the GPU, now I don't know wether you are going for an Exynos or an Snapdragon version. But I wouldn't recommend the snapdragon if you are going to use the phone for heavy 3D gaming (games like Modern Combat 5) because the adreno 320 isn't really future proof. It runs most of the games and 3D games that came out in 2013 and first half of 2014 just fine though.
I hope I can help you make your choice for a new phone with this.
The 0x1 isn't a big deal, I had my phone replaced within warranty after frying the motherboard with a custom kernel and rom. So I 'd say its nothing to worry about
thanks for the feedback, can u give me a tutorial on which u fry the MB ? its warranty proof this way
Also i am getting the i9505 black edition, its the snapdragon one , i am living in EU, Romania. I don't do heavy gaming , i didn't had on what, but i think i wont play as much, i want it to be a base on my learning of android (or so i hope).
Also, i need to know what accessories to get, screen protector, covers and such. can i get a "fake" spigen slim armor? is it worth it?
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what do u think of the phone? pros and cons. btw why we cant install cm without 0x1?
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It's still a great phone. Excellent Processor, Enough Ram, Decent Battery life (at least a day for me)
@charris
CyanogenMod requires a Custom Recovery to Install. Flashing a non-stock Recovery when you have the Knox Bootloader, will Trip Knox.
Flashing anything that is not Samsung/Stock with the Knox Bootloader will trip the Knox flag 0x1.
charris said:
thanks for the feedback, can u give me a tutorial on which u fry the MB ? its warranty proof this way
Also i am getting the i9505 black edition, its the snapdragon one , i am living in EU, Romania. I don't do heavy gaming , i didn't had on what, but i think i wont play as much, i want it to be a base on my learning of android (or so i hope).
Also, i need to know what accessories to get, screen protector, covers and such. can i get a "fake" spigen slim armor? is it worth it?
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I messed with the voltages of the cpu and gpu, but I didn't know it was this bad for the phone. It had been running unstable for about 5 days before it didn't turn on anymore. I wouldn't advice anyone to do the same, because it was quite stupid. Before that happened I had the headphone jack and micro usb port replaced within warranty too(also with 0x1).
My recomendation for an case is the samsung protective cover+ its not expensive and it protects the phone very well. Also you dont need a screenprotector, the only thing that scratches the screen is sand or sandpaper. As long as you keep those 2 things out of your pockets there wont be any scratches. I don' t know about the spigen covers and if there are any replica's.
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I messed with the voltages of the cpu and gpu, but I didn't know it was this bad for the phone. It had been running unstable for about 5 days before it didn't turn on anymore. I wouldn't advice anyone to do the same, because it was quite stupid. Before that happened I had the headphone jack and micro usb port replaced within warranty too(also with 0x1).
My recomendation for an case is the samsung protective cover+ its not expensive and it protects the phone very well. Also you dont need a screenprotector, the only thing that scratches the screen is sand or sandpaper. As long as you keep those 2 things out of your pockets there wont be any scratches. I don' t know about the spigen covers and if there are any replica's.
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http://www.tocmai.ro/husa-s-view-spigen-activa-pt-samsung-galaxy-s4-noua-flip-18912443.html what do u think of this? its 8$
Hi guys,
I've been reading and watching alot of videos on youtube regarding the Note series...
I would like your very honest answer with in regards to previous experiences with Note devices, specifically Note 3, as I need to make a decision to buy the Note 4.
A) Does it start lagging after a while? I've heard many reports that it does. I'm coming from iPhone 4s (which I've been using for 3 years) and get annoyed with any lag, which I've almost never experienced with the 4s.
B) Is it possible to get rid of lag, if indeed the Note 3 does lag after a while?
C) Does the battery start dying after a while as well? I know it can be replaced easily but I would rather not spend money on it if I can help it.
Thanks alot guys. Anything you can offer to help me make the right decision will help. And I apologize if there was a thread like this before...
I have owned all the notes till note 3 (note 4 is not out yet here) and I can tell u I've been quite happy with all 3 and never had any real issues with lag (i think occasionally it does but not that bothersome to me) and the batteries have always been excellent no problem with them (but I did buy a spare one for the note 3)
I still don't know what do to myself. I want it but it's not available in my country and since i am using Tab S 8.4 LTE i am not even sure do i need huge phone like that next to Tab S.
I used Note 3 for almost half year and my experience with it was great. But reading about display problems and that metal frame and how easy it gets damaged and scratched made me think better and i am not sure should i buy it or skip N4 and wait for S6 maybe.
And as i said it's still not available to buy in my country, i can't believe how Samsung messed it up, it's been 2 months since announcement and still nothing, this never happened before with Samsung devices. And new iPhones are coming in 2-3 days. Such a shame.
If it's too expensive when it becomes available i am not getting it, but i would really like to try it even 5 minutes.
KyCigni said:
Hi guys,
I've been reading and watching alot of videos on youtube regarding the Note series...
I would like your very honest answer with in regards to previous experiences with Note devices, specifically Note 3, as I need to make a decision to buy the Note 4.
A) Does it start lagging after a while? I've heard many reports that it does. I'm coming from iPhone 4s (which I've been using for 3 years) and get annoyed with any lag, which I've almost never experienced with the 4s.
B) Is it possible to get rid of lag, if indeed the Note 3 does lag after a while?
C) Does the battery start dying after a while as well? I know it can be replaced easily but I would rather not spend money on it if I can help it.
Thanks alot guys. Anything you can offer to help me make the right decision will help. And I apologize if there was a thread like this before...
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Its way too soon to say about all your questions. My note 3 hasnt had any decrease with time, but that doesnt mean the note 4 wont. Battery is also the same as it has always been on my note 3, but again it doesnt mean that is the same for the note 4.
I had the Note 4, now I have the Note 3 (little issue with my note 4, so its at the repair shop to be declared DOA), and I notice a few things:
Note 3 feels a lot slower
Pen on the Note 3 is far less usable in terms of merely navigating the phone, and FAR less useful. On my Note 4 i took the pen out almost all the time, because its just such a sweet feature, even if i wasnt planning on using it for anything real, but just to browse the phone with.
Screen isnt as good
It feels less sweet in hand
So thats just my little input on all of this.
*Emix* said:
I still don't know what do to myself. I want it but it's not available in my country and since i am using Tab S 8.4 LTE i am not even sure do i need huge phone like that next to Tab S.
I used Note 3 for almost half year and my experience with it was great. But reading about display problems and that metal frame and how easy it gets damaged and scratched made me think better and i am not sure should i buy it or skip N4 and wait for S6 maybe.
And as i said it's still not available to buy in my country, i can't believe how Samsung messed it up, it's been 2 months since announcement and still nothing, this never happened before with Samsung devices. And new iPhones are coming in 2-3 days. Such a shame.
If it's too expensive when it becomes available i am not getting it, but i would really like to try it even 5 minutes.
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I have a Tab S 8.4 and I still appreciate having a large screen phone too. So buying the Note 4 was easy for me. I have come from owning a Note 3 for the past 12 months too. I thought at first I may be wasting my money and that it wasn't going to be a major upgrade. I was wrong. It feels very much like a totally new phone. The way it feels in your hand is outstanding and the screen is amazing.
I don't really remember lag being an issue on my Note 3 and on the Note 4 it is too early to say but so far so good. I have never had an issue with batteries either. They aren't that expensive to replace anyway.
The Note 4 is the best phone I have ever owned (and see my sig, I have owned a lot!)
I've had my Note4 since Sat the 25th. I haven't experienced any lag at all, just a one second delay on the recent apps capacitive button, but it being a multi function button is normal. The glass is on straight so the "gap" issue is not present. I'm getting 19.5 hours of battery life with 5.0 Hours of screen on time. Very good screen with no color changing effects from any viewing angle..
Sent from my Galaxy Note4
the last 6 months I was switching frequently between I phone 5s and Samsung s5, till I received my I phone 6 plus last month, which is still with me , ...... and now I am a note 4 user, my input:
I had very good stability with the note , lag is at minimum but not zero
screen is super good
battery life on bar with iPhone 6 plus, probably 1 hour more or less depend on your usage
feeling in hand is great especially compare to iPhone 6 plus ( less slippery, and feels smaller somehow)
camera is very good and actually i prefer it over the Samsung s5 and 6 +
no over heat no crash no freeze which i had about four times on my 6+ and more often on my s5 but never on iphone 5s or note 4
s pen is very very useful and for my surprise i found my self using more than expected
conclusion is note 4 is full of features and the fact is almost a PC replacement ( in term of productivity) doesn't come without a price which is ( very occasion lag)
but again remember no phone is perfect, but the note is so far the best what I have used so far
very happy with my purchase so far
but it being a multi function button is normal
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Now youre just rationalizing. Theres no reason the delay should be there. If it was merely that its a multifunction button, why isnt it the same on the backbutton? Why wasnt this the case with the Note 3, who has a multifunctionbutton in its place? Why does the recent apps on the Note 3 pop up instantly?
Nah, this is merely shoddy implementation, which I hope they will fix with a patch soon.
Other than that, its the best phone Ive used for my use, and the functions of the device are stellar. Just a great improvement over my Note 3.
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Now youre just rationalizing. Theres no reason the delay should be there. If it was merely that its a multifunction button, why isnt it the same on the backbutton? Why wasnt this the case with the Note 3, who has a multifunctionbutton in its place? Why does the recent apps on the Note 3 pop up instantly?
Nah, this is merely shoddy implementation, which I hope they will fix with a patch soon.
Other than that, its the best phone Ive used for my use, and the functions of the device are stellar. Just a great improvement over my Note 3.
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Maybe.. But it's a non issue for me really. I've never been a nit picker, if that's the only issue this phone has... Like I said.. Non issue. Jmho
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Eh, its a bit annoying for me, coming from the Note 3 where it pops up fast. And I regularly pop between apps, even with multiwindow and windowed mode options, so Id really appreciate it being sped up a lot. But yes, I dont find it a dealbreaker or anything like that, even with this flaw its still the best phone available for me, without question.
KyCigni said:
Hi guys,
I've been reading and watching alot of videos on youtube regarding the Note series...
I would like your very honest answer with in regards to previous experiences with Note devices, specifically Note 3, as I need to make a decision to buy the Note 4.
A) Does it start lagging after a while? I've heard many reports that it does. I'm coming from iPhone 4s (which I've been using for 3 years) and get annoyed with any lag, which I've almost never experienced with the 4s.
B) Is it possible to get rid of lag, if indeed the Note 3 does lag after a while?
C) Does the battery start dying after a while as well? I know it can be replaced easily but I would rather not spend money on it if I can help it.
Thanks alot guys. Anything you can offer to help me make the right decision will help. And I apologize if there was a thread like this before...
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My little input. I haven't read all posts yet so I might be writing something that has been mentioned already.
A)Samsung phones always have lags. If you decide to stay on touchwiz (Samsung launcher) which brings us to question B.
B). You can remove lag for the most part and speed up your note by simply doing a few tweaks that you can find on YouTube. or if you wanna do a little heavier tweaking depending on your carrier you can root(jailbreak) your phone, from there the possibilities are endless especially if you have an unlocked bootloader.
C) Even if your batter dies eventually, for my galaxy S4 I bought two zero lemon batteries and a charger for 10$ on Amazon. One battery lasted me a year and to this day its still good!the fast charger works amazing! And worth buying extra batteries all day! Just my opinion.
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A)Samsung phones always have lags. If you decide to stay on touchwiz (Samsung launcher) which brings us to question B.
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What lag have you seen on your Note 4? Lets say we ignore the recent apps thing, it clearly has some kind of bug there, but that has nothing to do with the launcher.
Slai said:
What lag have you seen on your Note 4? Lets say we ignore the recent apps thing, it clearly has some kind of bug there, but that has nothing to do with the launcher.
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The recent apps lag is clearly a bug as you said. Hopefully they'll fix it in Lollipop. I've also noticed there is some lag when applications are being installed through the Play Store and you attempt to use the phone for other things. Coming from Nexus 5, I can confirm that this used to happen to a much lesser degree on the Nexus 5. Except with the Note 4, these lags and microstutters seems to be exemplified. Other than that, I haven't noticed any lag at all.
Ive seen some stuttering myself in the Chrome Beta browser on certain websites as Im zipping up and down a website, but thats not launcherrelated at all. Other than that, I havent seen any stuttering or lag myself.
If you want random strangers to convince you to buy any phone then this phone is not for you. You should buy it because you like it be a leader not a follower
If we were leaders wed make our own damn phones and wouldn't be the consumers we are. A follower with delusions of grandeur is still a follower.
Nothing wrong with asking for input. After all, we are pack animals. Even leaders take their cues from the pack.
All phones lag at some point or another when they do multitask
I been using note2 and now note 4
Is this an issue absolutely not
Battery life in note was always better than anything else and note 4 is not exemption no only that you can buy a spare battery and be cover for a long time until they star to wear of like all bateries
If you been all this time happy with a phone like 4s i don't know what to say. I would struggle to even the most basic operation like sms with a toy like that. The big screen is like travel in economy and being upgrade to first class again i would don't know if this is the phone for you
I know note is good for me and i would not be happy for a second with a puny phone llke the one you been using
Go to the shop try it and see if you are ready
also a phone is a phone and a tablet is a tablet when im away i carry my phone when im home i use my tab even though the phone is nice size i would use my tab rather than this
I hope it helps
I'm coming from an Iphone4s myself so can't comment on previous Notes sorry but I can say my iphone freezes and lags all the time. Admittedly I'm a heavy user and have been mostly satisfied with the phone (it was even replaced for free under warranty once so kudos to Apple) but to say iphone's don't lag themselves isn't true.
I've used the Note 4 for a few weeks now - on lag issue, experienced some lag after phone being continously on for more than a week (left it on when charging too) but problem was resolved after restarting the phone. Think this is acceptable?
Also on the Note 4, have needed to retrain my usage as you can switch between apps directly without having to go back to desktop to access shortcuts (with side key panel, you can access app drawer directly too)
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I've used the Note 4 for a few weeks now - on lag issue, experienced some lag after phone being continously on for more than a week (left it on when charging too) but problem was resolved after restarting the phone. Think this is acceptable?
Also on the Note 4, have needed to retrain my usage as you can switch between apps directly without having to go back to desktop to access shortcuts (with side key panel, you can access app drawer directly too)
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Yes I find the performance acceptable. TouchWiz may have its bugs but the Note 4 is coming off a launch with many varients.
Sumsungs devs are probably overworked and focused 100% on lollipop due in just a few weeks time.
When lollipop hits and if these bugs are still present then I will be disappointed for sure