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Someone had to start this topic, I guess it is going to be me.
I've been a note2 user since the release in 2012, never felt enough contempt to upgrade as note 3 had incremental improvements, besides most of the features were eventually ported to note 2, but now I believe it is time.
Note 2 is still a fantastic phone and I don't feel restricted by any heavy games ( just occasional gamer) or apps, the main bump for me will be camera and I also love what Samsung done with microphones in note 4, I have to record a lot of conversations and the feature that able to identify which direction the voice is coming from might be very handy. I'm a huge fan of oculus rift and the announcement of Gear Vr was very intriguing as I believe it is the future of entertainment and having advantage of note 4 gorgeous screen...
Are you excited about new note 4? Are you going to upgrade? Satisfied with the improvements Samsung made to our beloved Note line? How do you find new s pen features?
What are your thoughts in Gear Vr? Availability in different countries etc.
Vichenec said:
Someone had to start this topic, I guess it is going to be me.
I've been a note2 user since the release in 2012, never felt enough contempt to upgrade as note 3 had incremental improvements, besides most of the features were eventually ported to note 2, but now I believe it is time.
Note 2 is still a fantastic phone and I don't feel restricted by any heavy games ( just occasional gamer) or apps, the main bump for me will be camera and I also love what Samsung done with microphones in note 4, I have to record a lot of conversations and the feature that able to identify which direction the voice is coming from might be very handy. I'm a huge fan of oculus rift and the announcement of Gear Vr was very intriguing as I believe it is the future of entertainment and having advantage of note 4 gorgeous screen...
Are you excited about new note 4? Are you going to upgrade? Satisfied with the improvements Samsung made to our beloved Note line? How do you find new s pen features?
What are your thoughts in Gear Vr? Availability in different countries etc.
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So exited , i love the metal round , QHD screen , 4G cat 6 same size than N2 , i think i'll buy it next month :victory:
I want that rom on my note2. I don't see enough advances to upgrade to the note4 hardware. I'll wait for the note5 next year.
if someone can port Note 4 S Pen feature to Note 2, than i probably won't upgrade
there's some disappointment for Note 4 hardware, but overall i like the improvement from Note 2
Will probably upgrade to that too since my mobile plan expires next year. Looking at it's features, it'll be a waste to install custom firmwares on it. But then, I said that for my Note 2 and it stayed at stock for 1 week only lol.
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Notes never impress me, but note4 seriously did with the metal body, I am not at a Samsung fan,
Apart from the metal body nothing is exciting enough for me
this is probably going to be my next upgrade!
i love the note edge but i won't buy a device with 3gb of ram - it's bad luck
i will wait for note 5 or edge 2 hopefully with 4gb of ram
and my note 2 is still good, so why change it
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i love the note edge but i won't buy a device with 3gb of ram - it's bad luck
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That's the best reason I have heard so far why someone wouldn't buy note edge/4!!:good:
Expected a 64bit processor plus 4 gig ram also
No more improvement in battery but
Its worth to upgrade from note 2 no doubt
Those sensors display and features plus power it does have everything in the market
Why upgrade to Note 4
I was waiting for Note 4 but there is for now no reason to upgrade. I Like the S-Pen but I was hoping that the note 4 will be waterresistent like S5 but it isn't so if I need a new Phone then S5.
Really I don't need Gear VR and no Gear S. And Pay maybe a 100 bugs only for the Metal around? No thats not worth.
Hope there will be an APP for the Pen Features.
George
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Expected a 64bit processor plus 4 gig ram also
No more improvement in battery but
Its worth to upgrade from note 2 no doubt
Those sensors display and features plus power it does have everything in the market
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I believe exynos variant is 64 bit, benchmarks are higher on exynos as well. Nevertheless as far as I know developers don't really like exynos due to its closed source nature
im not excited abt note 4, through i really like the metal bumper of the device. However, do anybody notice that note 4 use USB port 2.0 instead 3.0
My thoughts exactly.
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I want that rom on my note2. I don't see enough advances to upgrade to the note4 hardware. I'll wait for the note5 next year.
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That's my feeling as well. A faster processor is nice, but I'm not really having trouble with a slow phone. a UV sensor is a bit meh, it's a nice novelty but not a reason to upgrade. The screen might be worth considering but I'm not really watching entire movies or taking that much pictures with it so I'll survive.
The main drawbacks for me are
- No water/dust protection like the S5
- No 64 bit processor for future proofing.
The edge seems like a nice novelty, but I'm afraid it won't be used by many apps.
The other phones like the Sony Z3, LG G3, moto X all have their own drawbacks (smaller screen, slower, ... ) so I think the note will have to be in service for a while It's just too good, so I don't have that much of a compelling reason to switch.
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Its worth to upgrade from note 2 no doubt /QUOTE]
Not for me, and I'm guessing most people have the same feeling. It seems a good phone, and would be my prime candidate if I didn't have the note 2, but especially as we don't get phones with plans it is a bit pricey for an upgrade I don't need
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im not excited abt note 4, through i really like the metal bumper of the device. However, do anybody notice that note 4 use USB port 2.0 instead 3.0
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That USB 3.0 was only helpful if you are connecting your phone to PC to transfer stuff between mobile and pc(USB 3.0 port of PC).When it comes to charging your phone several users of Note 3 mentioned that there was no difference in charging speeds when they used USB 3.0 or USB 2.0. Also samsung has implemented fast charge in note 4 which is supposed to charge the device 30% faster than usual.
My mobile contract is up for renewal so I'm getting the Note 4 as soon as it's released in the UK. The upgrades to the screen and camera are worth it alone.
Those people saying they need 4GB of RAM on a phone need to have a word with themselves. There is absolutely no need to have 4GB RAM on a mobile device. Even desktop PCs rarely utilise 4GB RAM at any one time (in "normal" use, obviously editing full HD/4K video or suchlike will require ludicrous amounts of RAM).
Similarly, the main benefit of a 64-bit CPU is the ability to address more than 4GB of memory space. Again, there's little benefit to having a 64-bit capable mobile device. In the end they just become numbers to impress your mates with down the pub.
My Note 2 still runs every app/game I throw at it with no slowdown or lag, and it never complains of being low on RAM, and it's *only* got 2GB
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I want that rom on my note2. I don't see enough advances to upgrade to the note4 hardware. I'll wait for the note5 next year.
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true...current note 4 release have upset me because
1.missing 4gb ram
2.camera isn't 20 or 21 mp
3.missing dust proof water proof and anti scratch abilities
4.no major hardware updates its not 64bit cpu..while qualcom have announced one 810
5.missing nfc payment
6.not enough slimmer or thinner
and a lot to say but as i love note series so don't want to downgrade reputation
I've got my Note II the same released day, I skipped the Note 3, its so much configured that I don't think will get the Note 4 this time around again, or may be I will after a while when the prices drop substantially..
maybe i go with the note 4
especially with the camera and spen improvement
I got my note 2 in 2013, have no intention on upgrading atm but if there is a price drop I might go for the note 3 as there are no big diffrence to note 4
The note 4 is out so I think that it is the next in line....
Any news guys?
I hope not! Releasing another note will make it that much easier for Samsung not update our tablet
They will I reckon but maybe in a couple of months time. Will be suprised if they don't ... All Samsung are doing at the bloody minute is releasing anything and everything.
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I hope not! Releasing another note will make it that much easier for Samsung not update our tablet
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I agree. Even without releasing new tablet, samsung (seems) already abandon the note 2014 users in Europe....
I don't think they will launch a new one. It already exists tab4 series and our tablet still carry the 2014 name, I guess maybe in January or February.
I don't think it will be until next year. The note 10.1 runs the same base platform as tab 's and tab pro. I reckon 1q15
I think it may change to SuperAMOLED screen for the next 10 incher note from Samsung.
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I think it may change to SuperAMOLED screen for the next 10 incher note from Samsung.
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AMOLED sucks on whites and most productivity and creation apps use light backgrounds. Here's the battery life of the S' on light backgrounds. I'll pass.
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AMOLED sucks on whites and most productivity and creation apps use light backgrounds. Here's the battery life of the S' on light backgrounds. I'll pass.
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Personally I will be willing to take the hit. My battery life on the Note 10.1 is more than enough for me ... I regularly top it up anyway and never too far from a power socket. But yeah the screen on the S is truely amazing if you ask me, the one thing I hate on the hardware side of our tablet is at night the blacks are terrible! I'm just used to my S3 blacks tbh. Anyhoo not that it matters I aint ganna buy a Samsung product anytime soon.
A Note S (actually probably three - 8.4, 10.1, and 12.2) with AMOLED should be next, but I doubt anything will happen before Samsung gets enough 20nm production going for its next-gen Exynos (which appears to be what's hiding inside the non-Qualcomm Note 4).
Also, they may be waiting for Apple's next-gen iPad and/or Android L.
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I agree. Even without releasing new tablet, samsung (seems) already abandon the note 2014 users in Europe....
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As soon as the 2014 came out Samsung practically forgot about the OG note 10.1.
Despite lackluster specs it had such potential. Its multitasking capabilities were superior, nav bar was welcomed. Instead a barely supported tablet with oodles of software bugs is it's legacy.
I swore I would never buy Samsung but I really did miss the spen. Only phone/tablet I ever ran stock(on purpose)
@md1008 ... yeah its a joke, I got KitKat few days ago and installed it yesterday. It just feels kinda pointless as Android L is around the corner.
I feel the same with Samsung - Not again.
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As soon as the 2014 came out Samsung practically forgot about the OG note 10.1.
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I wouldn't call bringing the N10.1-12 up to 4.4 "forgetting" it. I had a N10.1-12 before I bought the N10.1-14 when it first came out which means I used it on both 4.3 and 4.4. I'd take either over the N10.1-12. People seem to wax poetic over the N10.1-12 but, at least to me, the N10.1-14 is better in every way. A 147 PPI display is downright painful to use these days. Samsung's policy on backwardly updating their own s/w on older devices when newer versions are released on newer devices (EG: N2 getting N3 features, N10.1-12 getting N10.1-14 features) is simple . They don't. So if that's a big deal to people they either need to live with it or not buy Samsung's products. I doubt it'll change going forward.
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@md1008 ... yeah its a joke, I got KitKat few days ago and installed it yesterday. It just feels kinda pointless as Android L is around the corner.
I feel the same with Samsung - Not again.
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BarryH_GEG said:
I wouldn't call bringing the N10.1-12 up to 4.4 "forgetting" it. I had a N10.1-12 before I bought the N10.1-14 when it first came out which means I used it on both 4.3 and 4.4. I'd take either over the N10.1-12. People seem to wax poetic over the N10.1-12 but, at least to me, the N10.1-14 is better in every way. A 147 PPI display is downright painful to use these days. Samsung's policy on backwardly updating their own s/w on older devices when newer versions are released on newer devices (EG: N2 getting N3 features, N10.1-12 getting N10.1-14 features) is simple . They don't. So if that's a big deal to people they either need to live with it or not buy Samsung's products. I doubt it'll change going forward.
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The update didn't come for months and I believe the US model did not receive update at least it didn't before I sold it a month or two ago, it was stuck on 4.1.2.
Spec wise the 2014 is far better(as it should be) I did prefer the multi window setup better than post jellybutton and the nav bar is I believe better than the stupid home button. Tablet UI was nice but tablet is no longer supported since kit Kat.
Frankly I thought the note 10.1(2012) could have been great but fell short in so many ways
In the UK the prices of the Note 10.1 2014 Edition have been slashed like crazy. Last week it was selling for £450 and now all major retailers selling for £330! ... and one of the major retailers who is even listed on Samsungs website (John Lewis) no longer even list the Note 10.1 2014 (they had slashed prices too before they took it offline).
Surely this must be signs of a new Note 10.1 in the works. Have prices dropped in US or anywhere else?
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The entry level Samsung tablets had/have sort of an eternal life, with terribly outdated hardware. So why should the Note not last for another year? Currently you could only employ a newer Snapdragon, slighly faster and w/64bit. An OLED i dont consider innovative, just different, with a taste of worse.
None of the 64-bit Snapdragons to date are faster - all are A53 only. I assume we'll get 64-bit Exynos+AMOLED Note refreshes as soon as Samsung's yields on 20nm improve. (The 5433 in the non-Qualcomme Note 4 is A57/A53 at 20nm disguised as a 32 bit processor.)
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None of the 64-bit Snapdragons to date are faster - all are A53 only. I assume we'll get 64-bit Exynos+AMOLED Note refreshes as soon as Samsung's yields on 20nm improve. (The 5433 in the non-Qualcomme Note 4 is A57/A53 at 20nm disguised as a 32 bit processor.)
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Yeah I reckon it will be AMOLED, Metal frame, Note 4 software and S-pen updates.
And obviously faster processor whatever it is.
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I must be jaded, I wouldn't consider another Samsung tablet or phone at this point.
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I must be jaded, I wouldn't consider another Samsung tablet or phone at this point.
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I agree.
Plus this tablet should last another 2 years ... or I'm going to make it last haha.
By then we will hopefully have greater choice of none Samsung devices.
I'm in Canada, and unfortunately my carrier won't be carrying the Note 4, but, they do have the GS5.
I was planning on selling the GS5 for $600-$650 after market and getting a brand new sealed aftermarket Note 3 for $550.
The Note 4 is surely going to be $750 or $700 after market, and isn't coming for a month or two in Canada.
Is the wait and $ really worth it, or is the N3 good enough to run for the next year or two?
For the price difference i would wait for note 4.
The Note 3 will last at least another year in terms of being high-end. Two depends on when they come with 64bit and S810. (probably Note 5.)
The Snapdragon 805 isn't really an improvement, since the N4 also has 3GB RAM.
The only real improvements are the 2k resolution (over 1080p on N3), the Cat6 LTE radio (won't matter of your provider limits the speed) and it'll get newer android versions.
The Note 3 is the best option in terms of hardware/price. The Note 4 is newer.
It's nowhere near the big improvement the Note 3 was over the Note 2.
The difference between the N3 and N4 is very, very small.
My advice? Get the Note 3 for the next year, and wait for the Note 5.
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The Note 3 will last at least another year in terms of being high-end. Two depends on when they come with 64bit and S810. (probably Note 5.)
The Snapdragon 805 isn't really an improvement, since the N4 also has 3GB RAM.
The only real improvements are the 2k resolution (over 1080p on N3), the Cat6 LTE radio (won't matter of your provider limits the speed) and it'll get newer android versions.
The Note 3 is the best option in terms of hardware/price. The Note 4 is newer.
It's nowhere near the big improvement the Note 3 was over the Note 2.
The difference between the N3 and N4 is very, very small.
My advice? Get the Note 3 for the next year, and wait for the Note 5.
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I did the same thing!
Bought the Note 3 one week ago.
Not so many "big" differences with the Note 4.
Cheerss!
CruiseMod said:
I did the same thing!
Bought the Note 3 one week ago.
Not so many "big" differences with the Note 4.
Cheerss!
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Haha. I did the same 10 days ago. ...
Thanks everyone!
I'm thinking between OnePlus One and this.
Note 3 is my advice
You can get the Note 3 at a good price now, and sure you'll have almost all the new software features from the Note 4 once it cames out. As mentioned before changes arent a lot on HW. 64 bit processors are just beggining its road in mobile phones and you wont see applications that take much advantage of this new architecture. And also remember, Sammy comes with a new device echa 6 months so you wont have to wait for so long :silly:
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You can get the Note 3 at a good price now, and sure you'll have almost all the new software features from the Note 4 once it cames out.
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Nope, never...
Samsung is worse than apple when it comes to moving features down the pipeline.
Did my note get the features of the S3/Note2 or the UI? Nope
Did my note 2 get the features or the UI of S4/Note3? Nope
Would my current note 3 get the features or the UI of the S5/Note4? Do i even need to answer that?
The best we will get is the minimal UI changes strongly associated with their Android L review when we get the update 6 months later from the Note 4 ( again just BS )
and just a bump in Android version with no real features added to us, sometimes i wonder why do i keep buying phones from samsung...
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Nope, never...
Samsung is worse than apple when it comes to moving features down the pipeline.
Did my note get the features of the S3/Note2 or the UI? Nope
Did my note 2 get the features or the UI of S4/Note3? Nope
Would my current note 3 get the features or the UI of the S5/Note4? Do i even need to answer that?
The best we will get is the minimal UI changes strongly associated with their Android L review when we get the update 6 months later from the Note 4 ( again just BS )
and just a bump in Android version with no real features added to us, sometimes i wonder why do i keep buying phones from samsung...
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I agree with you for those who do not want to root and install custom roms.
Otherwise the Note 3 is a great piece of hardware. Just take a look at the development section to see that there are dozens of roms to choose. It is easy to keep it up to date with Android new versions.
Actually, all my other Samsung phones, including the original Galaxy Note, are running Android 4.4.4. All you have to do is get rid of Samsung stock roms.
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Thanks everyone!
I'm thinking between OnePlus One and this.
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OnePlus One. I'm rooting for it.
Note 3 compared to OPO is like night and day....I converted most of my Note 3 friends to get the OPO and they never looked back. Only thing I miss is the AMOLED screen, and that's all. It's been sitting in my drawer fully rooted, custom ROM'd, custom kernel'd, recovery and all 0x0, every Note 3 user's dream, currently locked up in a box with 0% battery since I don't use it as a daily driver anymore - It's that good.
AOSP development on the OPO is Legendary and CM is backing every firmware update released with newer and better features. Camera is far more superior and no infamous Samsung camera focus lag time.
Try the OPO. It's called the 2014 Flagship Killer for a reason, and the price being so low, might as well get 2 OPOs instead of 1 N3.
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The Note 3 will last at least another year in terms of being high-end. Two depends on when they come with 64bit and S810. (probably Note 5.)
The Snapdragon 805 isn't really an improvement, since the N4 also has 3GB RAM.
The only real improvements are the 2k resolution (over 1080p on N3), the Cat6 LTE radio (won't matter of your provider limits the speed) and it'll get newer android versions.
The Note 3 is the best option in terms of hardware/price. The Note 4 is newer.
It's nowhere near the big improvement the Note 3 was over the Note 2.
The difference between the N3 and N4 is very, very small.
My advice? Get the Note 3 for the next year, and wait for the Note 5.
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The lady knows what's she's talking about ?
@op: you asked on the Note 3 forum, so most people will say their phone is still a beast and other phones are not worth it. If money isn't an issue, absolutely go for the note 4. It's the newer device, it's more future proof, there is absolutely no logical argument not to get it in favor of the note 3 (except finances, like I said).
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I'm in Canada, and unfortunately my carrier won't be carrying the Note 4, but, they do have the GS5.
I was planning on selling the GS5 for $600-$650 after market and getting a brand new sealed aftermarket Note 3 for $550.
The Note 4 is surely going to be $750 or $700 after market, and isn't coming for a month or two in Canada.
Is the wait and $ really worth it, or is the N3 good enough to run for the next year or two?
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Wait for the note 4 the future is fast becoming qhd **** 1080p trust me you will not regret getting the note 4
The note 3 is the first phone I've ever owned that I don't feel like upgrading for a newer model. To date I have aways bought a new phone every year regardless. But if you have the money the note 4 looks really nice with the new screen and better build quality. The thing with the note series is that the phone will remain current for 2 years or so after release.
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currently locked up in a box with 0% battery since I don't use it as a daily driver anymore - It's that good.
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You better charge it to around 50% and then put it in the drawer, long time with depleted battery will kill it
Just watched a benchmark comparison between the S and S2 and the S2 appears to be a dud. Only like 52000 on antutu. My Nexus 6 with snapgragon 805 scores higher than that. why samsung did not use the same exynos they put in the S6 is beyond me. What do you guys think about it? Supposed to be out by end of the month from what I read.
Still faster then most of the world has but should be a little better for a flagship. I'm happy that i don't need to upgrade this year!
But still the fastest tablet, yes they could use the S6 cpu, but why would they do that?
They are selling tablets to make money not to please their customers.
The YouTube video I watched showed it has double the scores than the original tab s... What's your point OP?
samsung will not sell a tablet that will outclass it's flagship phones, tab S2 is lucky enough to receive a core from S6 compared to our tablet which didn't even receive the S5's 5422 which is HMP capable (all cores firing) yet pushing a larger screen resolution 1440p.
Tab S2 could be worth the upgrade only if
1) they retain or make the screen reso higher
2) better camera WITH flash (why dont they use a bigger camera on a bigger device? )
3) forget being super thin, we need battery!!
4) (personal preference) thinner bezel on all sides
perhaps somewhere down the road, we'll see a tab S edge LOL
My only gripe is that they forgot support for our tab S! Where are these damn updates!
I don't think the specs are too bad. I like the new ratio 4:3 I primarly use the tablet to browse and read, "watching videos" comes third, (and I certainly won't watch complete movies. )
I love that the tablet is as light as possible, I hope it won't affect the battery too much
Yes the S2 should've received the new S6 cpu... But on the other hand, will it make any practical differences instead of a number in a benchmark? I doubt it.
They saved money by not implementing a flash. Which is a pitty for a flagship. But on the other side I don't think I ever made more than 10 photos with my old tablet.
Price is unfortunately not cheap, you pay a flagship price.
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My only gripe is that they forgot support for our tab S! Where are these damn updates!
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Remember the Tab Pro?
That hasn't seen one major OS update. Released a few months earlier than the Tab S. Samsung needs to support their tablet line up.
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Found this today:
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-tab-s2-initial-impressions-632447/
Specs for those who haven't seen (this is a review of the import model so USA specs might be different?)
Exynos 5433 Octa-core SoC
3GB of RAM
32 or 64GB of on-board storageand
8-megapixel rear, 2.1-megapixel front camera set-up (no front flash)
Android 5.0.2
and features
Same “touch-based” fingerprint sensor used in the Galaxy S6
MicroSD
9.7-inch variant includes a 5,870mAh battery - the 8-inch variant a 4,000mAh power-cell
4:3 aspect ratio- 2048×1536 SAMOLED display
I JUST bought my Tab S a few days ago knowing this was going to be formally announced within my 15 days return policy period. But I got the 8.4 Tab S on sale for $299 at Best Buy, which I think it a great price point. It would take OUTSTANDING battery life and some kind of totally revamped touchwiz or stock android option with the newest snapdragon for me to switch I think.
I don't want any updates, I could be on official lollipop but i decided to stick with kitkat that is super stable, no way am i going to upgrade to lollipop as it has too many bugs, that out-way the new features.
Yeah, I noticed that the Tab Pro owners are still on kitkat, I have been posting on their forum warning them about lollipop if they get version v5.0.2
If we get Android M, I will wait for any problems to show before i upgrade or not.
John.
Samsung just dump a product within a year. Hate to say it but I find that's why people buy Apple plus the residual sales values.
So as Samsung copy everything Apple can't they also copy software support.
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I don't want any updates, I could be on official lollipop but i decided to stick with kitkat that is super stable, no way am i going to upgrade to lollipop as it has too many bugs, that out-way the new features.
Yeah, I noticed that the Tab Pro owners are still on kitkat, I have been posting on their forum warning them about lollipop if they get version v5.0.2
If we get Android M, I will wait for any problems to show before i upgrade or not.
John.
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I personally love the Lollipop update !
Particularly the recent updates coupled with my SkyHigh kernel make it so much faster, smoother and stable than KK.
That's what we do here at XDA, we don't want to hear whining, we want to be proactive and try improve on it
So what other "bugs" if you haven't bothered to upgrade ? Some found on other websites and forums have mentioned poor RAM management, but this has been the "norm" for most Samsung devices and TW. My kernel goes someway to addressing that.
As far as Tab-S2 goes - I'm really disappointed in the SoC (amongst other hardware). Not premium at all....
Not everybody want to flash their Tab S due to warranty ect, A lot of people have reported problems with official lollipop v5.0.2, all i am saying is they should wait for any problems to be revealed before upgrading.
It`s great that you found a lollipop rom that works for you.
John.
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I personally love the Lollipop update !
Particularly the recent updates coupled with my SkyHigh kernel make it so much faster, smoother and stable than KK.
That's what we do here at XDA, we don't want to hear whining, we want to be proactive and try improve on it
So what other "bugs" if you haven't bothered to upgrade ? Some found on other websites and forums have mentioned poor RAM management, but this has been the "norm" for most Samsung devices and TW. My kernel goes someway to addressing that.
As far as Tab-S2 goes - I'm really disappointed in the SoC (amongst other hardware). Not premium at all....
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Not everybody want to flash their Tab S due to warranty ect, A lot of people have reported problems with official lollipop v5.0.2, all i am saying is they should wait for any problems to be revealed before upgrading.
It`s great that you found a lollipop rom that works for you.
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Users should make up their own minds rather than taking advice from someone who (by admission) hasn't bothered to try themselves.
For those that worry, the latest LL firmwares far exceed the old KK firmwares as far as stability and smoothness in it's stock state. Take it from someone whom has flashed both stock and customized KK and LL firmware for T705.
It's easy to find out yourself and just as easy to downgrade via Odin without breaking warranty.
But things can always be improved upon (depending on point-of-view) and modified with options. Why ? Because this is XDA-DEVELOPERS, not sammobile.com.
Anyway, sorry OP for the OT.
So what lollipop rom and kernel do your recommend, I have an UK T800.
John.
UpInTheAir said:
Users should make up their own minds rather than taking advice from someone who (by admission) hasn't bothered to try themselves.
For those that worry, the latest LL firmwares far exceed the old KK firmwares as far as stability and smoothness in it's stock state. Take it from someone whom has flashed both stock and customized KK and LL firmware for T705.
It's easy to find out yourself and just as easy to downgrade via Odin without breaking warranty.
But things can always be improved upon (depending on point-of-view) and modified with options. Why ? Because this is XDA-DEVELOPERS, not sammobile.com.
Anyway, sorry OP for the OT.
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my tablet use always 60% movie, 20% browsing/reading news, 20% gaming.
I don't think 4:3 will do much good for me.
I just got this little beast yesterday. I live in Thailand where it was released about 4 days ago, i paid exactly $451 for the 32gb LTE 8-inch version. In the past 5 years that i have been on and off samsung devices, this is the first time that i notice a smooth, lagless touchwiz experience. Actually, before i even buy any samsung devices i make sure they have been in the market a few months, and there a few customs roms out. This time around samsung did a good job cutting down on the bloatware and the new redesigned touchwiz is surprisingly good.
The 4:3 ratio is perfect for me as i will be using it mainly for school.
The only thing i am concerned about is battery life, The Huawei Ascend Mate 7, a 6-inch phablet, has a 4100mah battery. This 8-inch tablet has a 4000mah battery.
Samsung claims:
9 hours of LTE web browsing,
10 hours of WIFI web browsing
14 hours of video.
Here are my stats for the first 5 hours:
Turned on with 55%,
after 5 hours it was sitting at 10% with 3 hours of SOT,
somewhat heavy usage downloading apps, setting it up, installing everything, and testing it.
That oled display is going to kill your battery for school work, all that white gulps down the power, you would gave been better off with an lcd display that does not care what colour the screen is.
Check to see if your apps/browser has an night mode that turn white to black, If your prefer white just keep the brightness low to save as much power as possible.
John.
Edgrr000 said:
I just got this little beast yesterday. I live in Thailand where it was released about 4 days ago, i paid exactly $451 for the 32gb LTE 8-inch version. In the past 5 years that i have been on and off samsung devices, this is the first time that i notice a smooth, lagless touchwiz experience. Actually, before i even buy any samsung devices i make sure they have been in the market a few months, and there a few customs roms out. This time around samsung did a good job cutting down on the bloatware and the new redesigned touchwiz is surprisingly good.
The 4:3 ratio is perfect for me as i will be using it mainly for school.
The only thing i am concerned about is battery life, The Huawei Ascend Mate 7, a 6-inch phablet, has a 4100mah battery. This 8-inch tablet has a 4000mah battery.
Samsung claims:
9 hours of LTE web browsing,
10 hours of WIFI web browsing
14 hours of video.
Here are my stats for the first 5 hours:
Turned on with 55%,
after 5 hours it was sitting at 10% with 3 hours of SOT,
somewhat heavy usage downloading apps, setting it up, installing everything, and testing it.
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
That oled display is going to kill your battery for school work, all that white gulps down the power, you would gave been better off with an lcd display that does not care what colour the screen is.
Check to see if your apps/browser has an night mode that turn white to black, If your prefer white just keep the brightness low to save as much power as possible.
John.
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I thought so too, My next option was the iPad mini. I'll just use this one for now and see how well it performs, and when the new iPad mini comes out, i'll decide which is better.
Oled display are really best for Video the colors look amazing and power used when playing a video is lower than any lcd tablet according to power consumption group tests.
John.
Edgrr000 said:
I thought so too, My next option was the iPad mini. I'll just use this one for now and see how well it performs, and when the new iPad mini comes out, i'll decide which is better.
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Anybody had the chance to test both or probably own both? What would you recommend? I have the option to get Note 5 for just 50 EUR more than Moto so I can't decide. This is what I was able to gather
Camera: better on Note 5
Battery: better on Note 5
Display/colors: better on Note 5
Updates: better on Moto
System: better on Moto (pure android)
Thanks for any inputs
It depends on the time you will keep the phone with you... Apps/android get heavier and heavier with time, and add that to an already heavy interface that is touchwiz, for me that takes a good year of life a phone may have. I'm personally not a fan of touchwiz, or of all that bloatware samsung throws at a phone to start with, but i gotta say i was kinda seduced by note 5. The phone is gorgeous, AMOLED is awesome (even though it burns with time, another thing that adds to the decrease of the phone's life), the battery seems fine, there was some power tests with it and it held up quite well... but i still went for the x style 'cause of the clean, top notch system. Also battery life isn't that much of a big deal, 'cause turbopower charges really fast.
The Note 5 is has an Exynos SoC, so you're pretty much guaranteed dismal development on it. I just glanced at the Note 5 xda page and it looks like it is just some stock mods. That would be fine on the Moto X. I'm actually just running rooted stock on it now, but on the Note...Touchwiz [involuntary shudder].
I've heard Touchwiz is getting better, but I'm not so sure Touchwiz is getting better. I just think Samsung is cranking out some awesome silicon that is actually capable of dragging that boat anchor.
You better believe Samsung has already moved on to the next big thing. Supporting last years' flagships is not high on their priority list. My other phone is a Galaxy S3, a 2012 flagship. It hadn't seen an update since it got kitkat in late 2013. In mid 2015 they actually pushed another OTA, but it was just another kitkat version that was supposed to patch stagefright vulnerabilities. Hilariously enough it only patched about 2 of the 6 or so CVE's.
On the other hand that phone is actually running rock solid CM 12.1 based custom roms. It also has some pretty promising early CM 13 based builds, but it has a Qualcomm snapdragon SoC (its the i747 not the i9300). It is kind of a sad state of affairs, but we really rely on the dev community to keep our older devices patched and up to date more than at least some manufacturers.
TLDR - Samsung makes great hardware, but they can keep their Exynos, their Knox, and their Touchwiz. I know of no reason why the Superbrick treason should ever be forgot. Give me Qualcomm, a close to AOSP experience, and a microSD slot please.