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I dont understand it.. samsung sells video cameras ... if they sold one with the crapy audio of our phone no one would buy it and they wouldnt sell any.
So they know how to record acceptable audio.. Why cannot they tweek the audio settings when you start camera to record acceptable audio (assuming they need to be different than for a phone) and change back when exiting/using phone?
What are you comparing the audio recording to. I've seen people compare it to other phones online, and many reckoned it was quite good..
Also, you do realise that video cameras have a lot more space to work with right? The quality of todays smartphones video/audio/photos is magic considering the limited space available for sensors.
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What are you comparing the audio recording to. I've seen people compare it to other phones online, and many reckoned it was quite good..
Also, you do realise that video cameras have a lot more space to work with right? The quality of todays smartphones video/audio/photos is magic considering the limited space available for sensors.
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It's way too sensitive... I recorded a concert (and a drive in teh car) and the audio was crap. Distorted in the car, unbearable in concert (way distorted/nosiy... literally couldn't hear the actual music).
Saw other videos with phones and they were MUCH better (audio wise). And no, it wasn't an extremely loud concert.
I think the audio is really good for a phone this size. Are you comparing it to a bose system or what? Lol
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I had the same problem with Omnia HD. The sound of videos was so poor too. It was resolved by firmware update, where the audio codec was updated.
Anyone knows if exists any firmware with an acceptable sound quality of recorded videos on i9000??
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Playback is great, it is the recording that is a bit crazy, the mic is super sensitive.. hopefully they can adjust this in a firmware.
True i was in rally few days ago and recorded some videos from there , video quality was awesome but sound was terrible. Too sensitive mic!
Impressed by 720p capture, very disappointed with the audio.
Case in point: Recording as of today: youtube.com/watch?v=oQPov5mUTm8
not loud inside at all, just some general background noise.
Using latest official firmware from Samsung JG4 (Optus Aus)
It has one mic, designed for minimising out ambient noise during a phone call, you can't really expect it to be good at recording a concert.
Bs my kids 5800 an my wives n 85 and other Nokia phones all recorded acceptable audio.
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OP, your meaning of "audio" should be more carefully explained.
DO you mean:
1) Audio playback?
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2) Audio recording?
My guess is #2. Yes, the microphone is quite sensitive. There were tons of people using the Samsung Omnia ( the prior generation android smartphone) who complained about the microphone NOT being sensitive enough. So Samsung decided to make the mic more sensitive.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one-review-912p7.php
Unfortunately, it's not as helpful as it could be:
Only compares phone to other Qualcomm devices (no Apple, no Samsung/Wolfson). And they consistently ignore Qualcomm shortcomings in s/n to other devices.
Don't tell you if tests were made with/without Beats. Both would have been nice.
Would be nice if they did their Android tests with standardized player, e.g., Poweramp or Neutron. But no.
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But no.
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/cancels order. Switches off the internet.
I read somewhere on the net, sorry I don't remember where, that the One audio is very much like the Nexus 4 - Through the earphone jack
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I read somewhere on the net, sorry I don't remember where, that the One audio is very much like the Nexus 4 - Through the earphone jack
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I hope not. Had a N4 of those for a few days, and it was among the worst music phones I've ever heard. I don't think it will be though.
p.s. Interesting to note how different the GSMarena was for N4 than what others found. It's review stats were not bad. Mine was much closer to the supercurio frequency response chart (See the N4 audio thread), with rapid treble falloff. After that, I take everything from GSM with a grain of salt.
Something to do with the snapdragon chip, I wish I could remember where I read it:crying:
Visited P4U in Market Street, Manchester, where they had a silver HTC One (unfortunately locked in a guard thingy).
The speakers were pretty impressive, compared to my friend's iPhone 4S, Galaxy Note 2 and my other friend's Galaxy S3...And of course much better than my Desire HD.
Only could test music that was already on the phone for demonstration purposes, so it wasn't really a direction comparison, but there's no doubt that the HTC One's dual front facing speakers are louder (duhh) but also clear.
The speakers and sound are so good IMHO that I have been using it to play radio and music around the house.
None of the on-board music seems to showcase the tone and range very well, but listening to some classical, talk radio and pop music just sounds amazing for a phone. You don't even have to crank it up to full volume to hear the quality of reproduction.
It's not going to replace your music system, but playing music in the kitchen or office for example with the speakers directly facing one person is very impressive.
This is one of the standout features for the phone, and I really get why they ate advertising it on TV.
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I find the speaker test on gsm arena nonsense or they have a faulty device because the one is far louder than phones whihc they are tryign to claim it is on par with like the s3, one x or one x+ for example and it is far louder than a note 2. yet in certain test like rining for exmaple they claim to note is is louder no way.
The S4 and Note 3 have this issue, random and quite annoying popping when recording audio. I was really disappointed when I heard it on the Note 3! Hopefully it has been fixed on the S5!
Can anyone confirm whether or not it's there?
popping? my s4 never had any pops. it recorded amazing audio.
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The S4 and Note 3 have this issue, random and quite annoying popping when recording audio. I was really disappointed when I heard it on the Note 3! Hopefully it has been fixed on the S5!
Can anyone confirm whether or not it's there?
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We'll see when I get mine. I'll let you know. But I think, it'll not be there for some S4 and Note 3, there's no popping when they record.
I've had numerous S4 and Note III samples through my hands and they have this issue. It's not an isolated issue. My Note II, HTC One, G2, iPhone 3/4/5s etc. have no such issues whatsoever. Normally I record video and audio separately but the argument (the best camera is the one you have with you) applies to a cell phone to capture things as they happen, unplanned. It's annoying to have these sounds in the audio.
cpufrost said:
The S4 and Note 3 have this issue, random and quite annoying popping when recording audio. I was really disappointed when I heard it on the Note 3! Hopefully it has been fixed on the S5!
Can anyone confirm whether or not it's there?
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Do you have an example of the issue?
weird i never experienced such thing on s3, n2, s4..
like I said, I've recorded plenty of guitar videos with my s4, through a Marshall dsl100 stack, which is loud and bassy, and it never ever ever had a problem with audio. it was always so clear and detailed, albeit only 128kbps. my g2 has that horrible underwater wishy-washy sound that makes the video camera unusable. I've never once seen audio artifacting on the s4. I had the snapdragon version, maybe you had the exynos?
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my audio was terrible on my S3 when recording video at festivals/concerts...hope this is fixed on the S5...everyone i know that has iPhones has no issue recording loud audio.
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like I said, I've recorded plenty of guitar videos with my s4, through a Marshall dsl100 stack, which is loud and bassy, and it never ever ever had a problem with audio. it was always so clear and detailed, albeit only 128kbps. my g2 has that horrible underwater wishy-washy sound that makes the video camera unusable. I've never once seen audio artifacting on the s4. I had the snapdragon version, maybe you had the exynos?
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Yes the problem is not with loud music like other devices which hard clip especially on kick drum hits...
This popping noise is most common when it's very quiet like recording at night with just the crickets outside...
And yes the audio was completely unusable on the G2 for me as well, if you recorded video in a loud cafe, no problem. But as soon as you went into a quiet area the gain levelers started getting really confused and there was all kinds of problems with sound. Ashame too since its camera (G2) was so nice...
Back to the S5, I have one in hand and while I have not put it through the gears my preliminary findings reveal a completely changed recording from the S4/Note3 hardware. The AGC does tend to bring up the levels higher when ambient sound changes but at least there's no nasty pops. The pops on the S4/Note3 can be removed with a click/decrackle plugin on most DAW software but they shouldn't be in there in the first place. This looks promising.
The video low light performance looks very good, I was shining a focused down aspheric torch (flashlight) around the pasture at long range and the screen was 100% black except where the beam was hitting objects at hundreds of yards away (barn, trees, etc.) and the detail looked shockingly good! I viewed the video on my Macbook Pro w/ retina display so it's a valid test.
Have not tried to see if it's IR filtered. Tonight we'll have the burn barrels going, that's the best IR test I know of without taking it to the lab.
These processors are so powerful it would be nice if they gave us the option of lossless audio recording and even a RAW photo option, although these tiny sensors would need a LOT of post processing to make the images useable. Still, however I always find that RAW+ Photoshop CS6 post processing looks better than the camera's aggressive post processing tuned for speed and convenience. With a 128GB microSD card, RAW+JPG would be fine.
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Do you have an example of the issue?
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This is not me/my video, but this is exactly how it sounds. Both the S4 and Note3 do the same exact thing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngwTBJ5ew08
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my audio was terrible on my S3 when recording video at festivals/concerts...hope this is fixed on the S5...everyone i know that has iPhones has no issue recording loud audio.
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Yep, I have several concerts recorded in 2012 and the audio clips worse than these kids with their pyramid amp powered systems playing hip hop with the bass turned to 11!
That's why I always record audio and video on separate devices. They won't allow a real camera (no cams with removable lenses that is!) in most venues...
I was at a gig on Friday night and sadly all my videos have distorted sound quality. Issue stll exists..
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I'm just back from a gig, i took a vid it seems fine on the phone a little blown out, but then again i was pretty near the speakers.
prot- said:
I was at a gig on Friday night and sadly all my videos have distorted sound quality. Issue stll exists..
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Yep, common issue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka0Oa4HYr6Y
I can confirm the popping is present in my unit too. Had it on S4 as well. It tends to occur less when the sound is turned to minimum while recording.
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Hi,
As Google moved into top notch phones category, it would be interesting how Nexus 6 performs in recording audio department during video capture in loud area. As known, Galaxy Nexus , Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 are useless recording audio during video capture in loud area.
HTC M7/M8 are the only ones from Android league which can record audio during video capture without distortion in loud area up to 150db sound pressure.
It is really interesting how good is Nexus 6 in this department?
I haven't received mine Nexus 6 yet, so would really appreciate samples.
Interesting thread. Would.be good to know. Wonder how others flagships do also
This is the test video I've done with HTC M7: one with HDR Mics and another one with alternative Mics in 130db sound area: HTC ONE M7 HDR Mic vs Non-HDR Mic: http://youtu.be/k0CIoouBM24
If it records sound I'm good. I don't have time in life to discern decibels and HDR mics and whatnot. It's motorola built. I would be looking into what the latest Moto X 2Gen device is doing for the closest indicator thus far if you want info that might be the closest thing to the N6 mic. Comparing to HTC or Samsung devices is relatively meaningless.
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This is the test video I've done with HTC M7: one with HDR Mics and another one with alternative Mics in 130db sound area: HTC ONE M7 HDR Mic vs Non-HDR Mic: http://youtu.be/k0CIoouBM24
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Nice vid. When you get the nexus please also do a comparison. When I had my htc one with the membrane I was banging on and on about when the had to change the mics and audio got worst but no one listened now it's clear)
I'm glad samsung paid attention to there mics with the note 4, has some of the best audio recording I have experienced on a phone and the 3 mics work perfectly and can even separate voices individually if you wanted to do that.
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I'm glad samsung paid attention to there mics with the note 4, has some of the best audio recording I have experienced on a phone and the 3 mics work perfectly and can even separate voices individually if you wanted to do that.
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Have you tried to record audio in loud area?
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Have you tried to record audio in loud area?
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Usually I record things like class lectures, it has gotten quite noisy in class especially when people participate and I was able to hear the professor loud and clear over some of their voices and if not, samsung software allows me to tinker with the recorded audio.
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Usually I record things like class lectures, it has gotten quite noisy in class especially when people participate and I was able to hear the professor loud and clear over some of their voices and if not, samsung software allows me to tinker with the recorded audio.
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Excellent to hear the N4 has great audio recording
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Usually I record things like class lectures, it has gotten quite noisy in class especially when people participate and I was able to hear the professor loud and clear over some of their voices and if not, samsung software allows me to tinker with the recorded audio.
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Have you tried recording a concert or a band? A class lecture at its peak won't be as loud as one of the above, a live band is a great test of the mics recording quality.
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Seems Nexus 6 shoot video with mono audio. Sad!
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Seems Nexus 6 shoot video with mono audio. Sad!
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Yea, and with 4 mics on board, really stupid, i'm, sure there will be mod for this, but come on.
I was at a concert yesterday and really appreciated the audio recording quality of my M8. No distortion at all! I was really hoping the Nexus would be decent in this area.
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youtube.com/watch?v=sNbrWz7hZO4 nexus 6
youtube.com/watch?v=UDT-8HmbCGs nexus 6
youtube.com/watch?v=8CvbMUAMZH0 lumia recording good sound, this what I expect for a "premium" phone.
Two youtube videos that shows that nexus has not a HDR mic. Very bad quality for a very expensive device.
Still HTC one m8, iphone or lumia are the only phones in the market that can record good sound in this kind of loud sound conditions
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Two youtube videos that shows that nexus has not a HDR mic. Very bad quality for a very expensive device.
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Quality is FAR from bad, but......mono recording with 4 mics is indeed terrible CHOICE!
I play in a band....When I record us playing live, or other bands, it doesn't distort, but there is a horrible clipping noise that sounds like a "quack" or "quirk" noise when the audio threshold is breached. It was like this on MM and I was hoping Nougat would be better, but there is no change.
On my last 5 phones, this NEVER happened (Nexus 6p, Moto X Pure, Galaxy S7 Edge, S6, and HTC One M9). Actually, I haven't really had this problem since 2013. My other band members iPhones are perfectly clear as well.... But my recordings are virtually useless due to this horrible noise every few seconds. Regular, everyday stuff is fine - it's just loud band settings.
Anyone know of anything that might help? I'm on the stock ROM, but rooted if I need to change anything?
Here is an example - a 25 second clip of my band on YouTube:
It sounds like the mic is being over driven and clipping/distorting. How close is the phone to the bass?
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It sounds like the mic is being over driven and clipping/distorting. How close is the phone to the bass?
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The bass is completely on the opposite side of the stage, about 25 feet away in this video. We didn't use subs at this gig, and my phone was about 5 feet behind the main speakers sitting on a towel on a concrete floor.
To me, it doesn't appear to be the bass.. It's when the drummer is hitting the snare, which is opposite of when the bass is usually hitting. The snare is usually the loudest thing on the stage.
I've tried recording at every show since I've had my phone around August or September (23 - 25 shows)....I've had it at all different points behind the speakers, in front of the speakers, on the bass side, behind everything, in peoples hands..... ect... It just doesn't like loud music.
I was wondering if there was a way to up the sensitivity of the mic, or DB where it is rated?
I've been recording my band/s for the past 7 or 8 years (ever since the iPhone 4s days). Had some that distorted bad, but usually I could tell it was the bass. But ever since I had my first HTC M7, about 2013, I haven't had any issues until now with the A7.
Did you find any solution? I go to live shows a lot, and sometimes I like to record one or two songs, I used to have Motorola g4 plus and the audio was OK, but I just bought the g5 plus and the audio is totally garbage! :crying:
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Did you find any solution? I go to live shows a lot, and sometimes I like to record one or two songs, I used to have Motorola g4 plus and the audio was OK, but I just bought the g5 plus and the audio is totally garbage! :crying:
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No, but I haven't tried for a few weeks - since updating to 7.1.1, but it was this way on 7.0, so I don't foresee it any better.
My friends with iPhones (6-7) and Galaxy S6/S7's all sound fine.... Mine doesn't when recording something at high volume.
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No, but I haven't tried for a few weeks - since updating to 7.1.1, but it was this way on 7.0, so I don't foresee it any better.
My friends with iPhones (6-7) and Galaxy S6/S7's all sound fine.... Mine doesn't when recording something at high volume.
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I almost thought about trading for a LG v20 (I found on Craigslist) or upgrading to the S8 when it's out, but I really like this phone. I'm going to try a different camera or something?
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I play in a band....When I record us playing live, or other bands, it doesn't distort, but there is a horrible clipping noise that sounds like a "quack" or "quirk" noise when the audio threshold is breached. It was like this on MM and I was hoping Nougat would be better, but there is no change.
On my last 5 phones, this NEVER happened (Nexus 6p, Moto X Pure, Galaxy S7 Edge, S6, and HTC One M9). Actually, I haven't really had this problem since 2013. My other band members iPhones are perfectly clear as well.... But my recordings are virtually useless due to this horrible noise every few seconds. Regular, everyday stuff is fine - it's just loud band settings.
Anyone know of anything that might help? I'm on the stock ROM, but rooted if I need to change anything?
Here is an example - a 25 second clip of my band on YouTube:
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I can say I don't have this problem, I have been into some loud environments and even recorded a Big Band and the sound was fine; probably I will go tonight to a club or something and can test as well, but as for the tests I have done before regarding this topic, I haven't found any issue. My device is A2017G.
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I can say I don't have this problem, I have been into some loud environments and even recorded a Big Band and the sound was fine; probably I will go tonight to a club or something and can test as well, but as for the tests I have done before regarding this topic, I haven't found any issue. My device is A2017G.
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Hmmmm, this is the 2nd Axon 7 I've had - and both had the same issue. Maybe it's just louder behind the speakers?
I may try setting it out in front, 10 or 20 feet back and see how that turns out? It still irritates me a little, because my other phones didn't do this when I'd record the same way and place. Even going back 4 or 5 years ago to my HTC M7.
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Hmmmm, this is the 2nd Axon 7 I've had - and both had the same issue. Maybe it's just louder behind the speakers?
I may try setting it out in front, 10 or 20 feet back and see how that turns out? It still irritates me a little, because my other phones didn't do this when I'd record the same way and place. Even going back 4 or 5 years ago to my HTC M7.
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Just as I promised, I recorded a video yesterday night in a loud environment; I was no more than 1-2 from one of the speakers, and I think the quality is pretty decent:
https://goo.gl/photos/XXkdG1Z1M4ja1mAd8
P.D.: The video seems a little blurry, but I didn't even focus anything, I just grabbed the phone out and start to record to test the audio and I didn't care about image quality.
I've recorded live bands and the sound has been fine, far better than on any previous phone, but I haven't tried with version 7.
https://youtu.be/b4GvXSBA-7Q
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I've recorded live bands and the sound has been fine, far better than on any previous phone, but I haven't tried with version 7.
https://youtu.be/b4GvXSBA-7Q
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Is that using the stock camera/video?
I tried a couple different cameras from the playstore, one was no different than stock, one was horribly worse.
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Is that using the stock camera/video?
I tried a couple different cameras from the playstore, one was no different than stock, one was horribly worse.
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Stock A2017G
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Is that using the stock camera/video?
I tried a couple different cameras from the playstore, one was no different than stock, one was horribly worse.
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Stock A2017G
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Same
Well, I recorded more video of my band this weekend. I believe the issue comes form the side of the stage I'm on required the microphone to point "towards" the stage, instead of away.....So it's extra sensitive. I recorded half a song with it one way, flipped it over and finished out the song. The half with the mic pointed away only clipped one time. The half with it pointed towards us, clipped about ever time my drummer hit the snare.
Still not as clear as my drummers wife and her S7, but livable now.
I also read you can put scotch tape over the mic and it'll help too?
[UPDATE]
Mid- last week, I made the switch from stock, to LOs.... Just tested the recording, and the problems I was experiencing in stock, with clipping, don't exist in LOs... Not sure why, but they're all gone!
I recorded several songs tonight, at a louder volume, with no clipping at all.
Just throwing this out there.