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would you guys upgrade from an HTC one X

the one X made me fall in love with IPS plus, and the battery life on my phone with good use still gets to 22 % at 11pm which is vital for a college student as the few hours after 11 are the most important haha. anyway i want to know if it is worth selling it and buying this phone. i use straight talk with atnt towers and get good reception. im actually on my mac right now with no internet connection just tethering due to the hurricane.
i want the nexus 4 because of the supposed 300ppi and the pure android. i used to love sense but now i cant stand it. the one thing that would be a deal breaker for me is the camera. who can compare the one x camera and screen vs the nexus 4 that should help me decide. other then that i think the phone is brilliant and the pricing is unbeatable i strongly urge people to really support this phone.

I'm sorry to say but the One X has a pretty terrible camera. I'm not sure if a part of it is due to CM10 not having the right drivers/settings/etc... but all my photos come out out-of-focus or really grainy. If you look up the shots from the N4, they look pretty good.
I am switching over to a N4 just because I love having stock Android. And as great as the CM community is, they are useless if the manufacture doesn't release the source code for their stuff. The Nexus series has the advantage of being completely supported by Google and custom ROMS should have little to no bugs on them.
I love my One X LTE, and I am willing to sacrifice LTE just for the AOSP.

I've heard the One X has a slightly better looking screen than the Optimus G, which should be the same for the Nexus 4. 6 more ppi on the Nexus 4 if you're into that though

I would upgrade because of battery life. I would be shocked if the nexus 4 doesn't get better battery life than the One x cause the One X has horrible battery life. When I had it, I had to limit my usage to have some juice left when I got home in the evening.

i'm going to give my international htc one x to my mother and plan to get a n4 for myself

Me, I'll give my One X to my father and make him buy me the Nexus 4 . This way I can check them both out at the same time
Looking for 5hrs+ screen on time with 28nm snapdragon and 2100mah battery
Reasons why I upgrade from HTC One X:
- Instant android upgrades, no more waiting.
- Hope for better battery life
- Bad ass dev support (One X has great dev support also)
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I'm keeping both, but if storage isnt a problem then it would be a nice upgrade, not necessary. I had great battery life with jellybean.

when i had the one x i get about 2 hours of on screen time which was poor. Compared to 3-4 hours on screen time....
So hopefully the nexus delivers with lg's high density battery.

Battery life and camera is not that bad on the one x. You can't judge a phone by not using the official software. CMX(10) on hox does have sh**ty camera performance because there is no camera drivers being used.
I think battery life would be better on the nexus 4 compared to the one x. Camera wise it might be tight, as the hox have some nice outdoor performance with the camera but not so good indoor and with poor lighting conditions. It will be tight to match the screen of the hox but it won't be bad.
You stated that you hate sense, so if that's the case I would advise you to move to this then. You should just remember that you would have a lot less memory available. The one positive is that you will always receive updates first with the nexus 4.
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I like sense... Just wish it wasn't a memory hog. I do miss my sense clock, and friendstream.
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I also am wondering if I should change from my One X to the Nexus 4....

I want to change but the sense skin features text wrap and its full screen web browsing, I've used chrome and dolphin they don't support text wrap or full screen with the status bar and tabs still appearing which takes a lot of screen space. Other then that I think the nexus 4 is a brilliant upgrade just waiting for the reviews, camera and dac are important to me since these where less impressive on the hox.
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I'm waiting on reviews of the Nexus 4, but I'm heavily considering it. I really like the look of the Nexus 4, the fact that its stock Android, and that it has wireless charging. I imagine I'd be able to resell my One X for, at the very least, $300 (hopefully $350).

I intend to upgrade if I can find someone to buy my One X off me. There are 2 main reasons for me;
1. Battery life should be alot better. My phone lasts me the day usually but not with heavy use. The 40nm Tegra 3 chip just isn't very energy efficient when in use and the battery isn't big enough.
2. Pure android. I like Sense but my Nexus 7 has made me love AOSP android. I will miss the Sense dialer but nothing else really bothers me.

As a one x user I will buy nexus 4. Not because I don't like htc one x, its a great phone but I never owned a nexus phone and this nexus is a beast!

Matt1408 said:
I'm sorry to say but the One X has a pretty terrible camera. I'm not sure if a part of it is due to CM10 not having the right drivers/settings/etc... but all my photos come out out-of-focus or really grainy.
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i'd say yeh, definitely cm10 causing this. it makes my s3 pictures look horrible as well. so basically im stuck w/ touchwiz unless i want ****ty pictures. that's a good enough reason to get an n4 for sure.

awsome. im getting around 350$ for my hox so i guess its an easy upgrade for me. thanks guys cant wait to enjoy true aosp. sense is awsome much better than touchwiz for sure but definitely great. my battery was good because of mods i did but anyway if the nexus is supposed to get 4 hours on screen then hell yea im switching. i saw the 3d panorama and the wireless charging and now im def on board. see you guys around the roms forums and enjoy ;D

I would, it's a better phone, it'll have better dev support and even better, you can probably cover the cost of it by selling your One X. No brainer.

I'm switching from my one x, only if I can sell it for at least 300 though.

cameras are still crappy in phones s3 and n8 are the best i think.
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Just exchanged my LG G2 for the Z1s. Here are my first impressions

I just wanted to let you all know my first impressions of the Z1s. A bit of background, I just traded in the LG G2. Before that I had the Lumia 1020, HTC One, S3, and then before that the iPhone.
Holding the Z1s in my hand feels very nice. It has a weight to it which just feels good. A lot of the phones such as the S3 feel like a toy or like you'd break it just by touching it. The Z1s does not have this issue.
The bezels on the top and bottom are HUGE. It doesn't look so bad once you get used to it but it's still a small issue (won't stop me from liking this phone though).
The screen gets quite bright and even when I'm outside it is visible. HTC One was quite the opposite and taking it outside in direct light was a nightmare. The viewing angles are not as bad as the reviews might make you think. I was expecting the worse but it's not bad at all. (And I still have the included screen protectors on).
This thing is ZIPPY. It just glides from one screen to the next. I know the specs help but I also think the very minimal UI is also a reason. I like it, reminds me a bit of stock google. I will be putting my favorite launcher on it (action launcher) and I don't think the silky performance will be affected.
Battery life right now sucks, but that is because it's downloading my apps/settings/etc. Sucking right now is a given so I can't really comment on it.
The camera is freakin nice. Coming from the Lumia 1020 and it's 40MP sensor I have high expectations for what can be done on a phone. This camera is easily the best camera on an ANDROID device. If google would get it's head out of it's ass and allow developers to adjust the shutter delay then it'd be even better.
The one big thing I hate right now, is the locked bootloader. I'm not sure what the hell Sony/TMobile was thinking. Hopefully it gets cracked soon. I'm a tweaker, the kind of guy that will try a different rom every week until I find the perfect one for me. Even knowing it is locked, I love this phone. SOMEONE will crack it open... I hope.
I'll come back and update this after a day or two then after a week or two. So far though, (even with the crappy locked bootloader) I'd suggest this phone to everyone.
Rob

You can unlock the BL if you want to.

how is the feel of the smaller screen .. 4.3" ?

Hanozy said:
You can unlock the BL if you want to.
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Not on all Z1's. He mentioned T-Mobile, and if he got it from them he can not unlock the bootloader. At least not without a new crack developed but I don't know if that will happen anytime soon.
Edit: I realized he said Z1S which is definitely T-Mobile and definitely not unlockable.
@robamacaf - great review, thanks

robamacaf said:
I just wanted to let you all know my first impressions of the Z1s. A bit of background, I just traded in the LG G2. Before that I had the Lumia 1020, HTC One, S3, and then before that the iPhone
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How does the Z1s camera compare to the G2? I'm in the same boat as you, thinking about switching to the Z1s from the G2. I'm only concerned about the differences in battery life and camera quality, at least one would have to be better than the G2 for me to make the switch! Looking forward to your impressions. Thanks!

robamacaf said:
The one big thing I hate right now, is the locked bootloader. I'm not sure what the hell Sony/TMobile was thinking. Hopefully it gets cracked soon. I'm a tweaker, the kind of guy that will try a different rom every week until I find the perfect one for me. Even knowing it is locked, I love this phone. SOMEONE will crack it open... I hope.
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Also, the number of Z1 cases (bumpers mainly) that I want can't be used on the Z1S because of that moved headphone jack!
I'm on the fence of getting a Z1S. It doesn't have aluminum sides like the Z1 counterpart. What's your opinion on it?

ashouhdy said:
how is the feel of the smaller screen .. 4.3" ?
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That is the Z1 compact, not the Z1s

randaddy said:
How does the Z1s camera compare to the G2? I'm in the same boat as you, thinking about switching to the Z1s from the G2. I'm only concerned about the differences in battery life and camera quality, at least one would have to be better than the G2 for me to make the switch! Looking forward to your impressions. Thanks!
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The camera is the reason I switched. I was hoping for good things with the G2 but after I got it I tried taking photos of my kids in the living room at night and had to take 12+ photos to get one that wasn't blurry. It was frustrating. The Z1s has bigger pixels to capture more light and a higher resolution. I'll take some night photos tonight but so far the day time photos are great. If you don't know the Z1s does the same thing as the Lumia 1020 when it comes to photos. It takes a 20MP photo and then oversamples it down to the 8MP photo to keep the size down but also provide good details of the higher photos. This also allows the lossless zooming.
I'll give updated impressions but so far I really like it. We'll see how low light shots go tonight

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Also, the number of Z1 cases (bumpers mainly) that I want can't be used on the Z1S because of that moved headphone jack!
I'm on the fence of getting a Z1S. It doesn't have aluminum sides like the Z1 counterpart. What's your opinion on it?
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I think it looks and feels premium. After doing some research they made it plastic to get better signal. It still looks metal so I don't mind it.

One thing I don't like is the placement of the USB port. I don't mind the flap, it takes 1 second to get off plus I knew the flaps were part of the waterproof phone. So I don't have an issue with it. I just don't like the USB port in the top left corner. It feels....wrong. Makes it hard to use the phone when it's plugged in and charging. I'll get used to it, but right now it's a bit of an annoyance.

robamacaf said:
I think it looks and feels premium. After doing some research they made it plastic to get better signal. It still looks metal so I don't mind it.
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Answer this one more question and I'm sold on it.
How is the camera in low light compared to the HTC One?

PcFish said:
Answer this one more question and I'm sold on it.
How is the camera in low light compared to the HTC One?
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I will let you know tonight. This was the big thing that I loved with the HTC One and Lumia 1020. The HTC One ROCKED in low light but the low details because of the low MP really hurt the phone. I'd go back to HTC One or HTC One Two in a heart beat if they raised the MP. I switched off of the LG G2 because the low light wasn't impressive at all. I'll post back in about 5-6 hours with pictures. I'll take some outside when the sun is going down, when the sun is gone, indoors and out.

Just wanted to give you a heads up. I traded in my Z1 back to Tmobile. While I can do with bad screen angles and such one thing I can't deal with is a bad battery that is non-removable. When I heard the Z1s had a 3000 battery I figured it'd be great because that is a pretty huge battery. My LG G2 was the same size and could easily go 1-2 days between charges. My Z1s was dropping 8-12% an hour with everything turned off.
I never bothered looking to see if the battery was ok before I bought it because everything said it was 3000mhz. Which is is. But after researching it after the fact I found out the Z1/Z1s has some of the worst battery life out of any major phone released in the last year. That coupled with the fact it has a locked bootloader made me return it. A great camera is only good if the phone has juice.

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Just wanted to give you a heads up. I traded in my Z1 back to Tmobile. While I can do with bad screen angles and such one thing I can't deal with is a bad battery that is non-removable. When I heard the Z1s had a 3000 battery I figured it'd be great because that is a pretty huge battery. My LG G2 was the same size and could easily go 1-2 days between charges. My Z1s was dropping 8-12% an hour with everything turned off.
I never bothered looking to see if the battery was ok before I bought it because everything said it was 3000mhz. Which is is. But after researching it after the fact I found out the Z1/Z1s has some of the worst battery life out of any major phone released in the last year. That coupled with the fact it has a locked bootloader made me return it. A great camera is only good if the phone has juice.
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you do know that a phone's battery is worst when hyou first get it, because it starts off low and the phone is trying to reinstall all your apps and services, contacts, media, etc? You really only get a truly good read on a battery after all that is complete and the battery has gone through several full charging cycles.

My Z1 drops 1% in 6-10 hours and has one of the best battery life of any phone, especially in standby.
It once didn't even drop 1% after 10 hours, at that point I already thought the screen was frozen because the battery percentage didn't move, but the standby was just so good.
Screen on time is also great, just recently I reached 3 days (73 hours) with 4.5 hours of screen on.
Many threads around here prove the phone's great battery life.
And don't blame the phone or Sony for having an unlockable bootloader. Blame t-mobile as they probably demanded this.
I agree with the non removable battery, I don't like it.

jmwils3 said:
you do know that a phone's battery is worst when hyou first get it, because it starts off low and the phone is trying to reinstall all your apps and services, contacts, media, etc? You really only get a truly good read on a battery after all that is complete and the battery has gone through several full charging cycles.
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Everything was already installed/synced/etc. I have had many phones over the months and no phone came close to sucking as bad as this did in the battery department right out of the gate. I can also give you sources if you'd like of reports on battery life where z1 came close to last on every one. In fact, I searched the interwebs for almost 2 hours and not a single battery report actually gave the Z1/z1s anywhere above average. They were all below average if not the worst around compared to modern phones

Definately sounds like something was wrong in your case here. My Z1 easily lasts two days of medium use, with an hour of screen time, a few snapshots with the camera, gmail and exchange sync on and a little RunKeeper.
You should have used a wake lock detector to see what was eating your power. My guess is that google plus or Dropbox was running haywire. Has happened to me a few times on new handsets.
-KJ

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Everything was already installed/synced/etc. I have had many phones over the months and no phone came close to sucking as bad as this did in the battery department right out of the gate. I can also give you sources if you'd like of reports on battery life where z1 came close to last on every one. In fact, I searched the interwebs for almost 2 hours and not a single battery report actually gave the Z1/z1s anywhere above average. They were all below average if not the worst around compared to modern phones
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that IS quite odd, because every single review I read on the Z1s gave high marks for the battery, saying it lasted at least a day of moderate use, though each person's mileage will vary depending on usage. I too picked up a z1s today, and while my battery hasnt been phenomenal yet, its been better than my HTC One was, and should only improve over the next few days and weeks. Did you tinker at all with Sony's built in power saving settings?

robamacaf said:
I'm a tweaker, the kind of guy that will try a different rom every week until I find the perfect one for me. Even knowing it is locked, I love this phone. SOMEONE will crack it open... I hope.
I'll come back and update this after a day or two then after a week or two. So far though, (even with the crappy locked bootloader) I'd suggest this phone to everyone.
Rob
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I would advise to check this thread before you start heavy ROM flashing. Would be sad if your Z1 enjoyment finishes in couple days.

jmwils3 said:
that IS quite odd, because every single review I read on the Z1s gave high marks for the battery, saying it lasted at least a day of moderate use, though each person's mileage will vary depending on usage. I too picked up a z1s today, and while my battery hasnt been phenomenal yet, its been better than my HTC One was, and should only improve over the next few days and weeks. Did you tinker at all with Sony's built in power saving settings?
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I did, and while I appreciate it having Stamina mode, etc. Other phones do not offer that and still get better life. On the Note III and LG G2 (both have 3000-3200 batteries) I don't have to make it turn stuff off for the battery to last. I appreciate what Sony was going for but it just didn't work for me. Maybe with the Z2 they are supposed to be announcing soon they will have fixed things like the battery draw/viewing angles, etc.
I think the Z1 line could be a beast. But Sony needs to make some tweaks to make it better in the long run.

Are you happy with it?

So through a whole of problems with the GS4, and a little stroke of luck, I happened upon a Moto X 2014. I must say, the phone is smooth as butter. But I still feel like something is missing. My battery isn't a great feet, my camera is poor at best. The phone however is the fastest and smoothest I've ever seen an android phone. It makes me melt. But after using the LG G2 which I had for 2 days before this....I miss it comparatively to this. Just as fast, much larger battery, beautiful screen. The Moto X doesn't even have a "power save" feature, and that would at lest be helpful. I almost want to wait for the Droid Turbo, but by then my 14 days would be up. I'm just not sure what to do. So my question to others.....Are you happy with this device? or would you switch, given the opportunity? If so, to what?

In happy, if the camera was better, I would be happier, but I'll hold out for L in hopes of improved camera performance. If not, I have another upgrade in April, maybe grab a turbo if it doesn't look as bad as it has in the leaked photos.

I'm think off going back the LG G2. The camera may be the breaking point for me.
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I don't take many pictures, but the ones I have taken have been fine. On par with a majority of the smart phones I have owned except a few that were above average. Most of them are just "meh" and any difference is still not great so I just don't let it get to me. If pictures were priority I would still be on the Lumia 930 hands down, or maybe the iPhone 6 plus, but not most of the Android handsets available that's for sure.
Overall I love the phone though. It just a great phone to use and really when it comes down to it that is what matters. There are things that could use improvement (screen brightness, camera, battery life). But none of those factors are BAD, just not exceptional. I get through a day with ease and the screen is fine except in bright sunlight. The phone makes up for it with a great feel and ease of use. Its super fast and fluid, and little things like ActiveDisplay just make it all that much better of an experience. Of all the phones I have owned in the last year (a lot) it is the first one I feel content with and not pining for a new phone (which is rare for me). I am excited for Android L .

I love my Moto X. I too came from a Galaxy S4 running CyanogenMOD and this is so smooth without having to do any tweaking whatsoever. I've had this phone for 11 days and I already try to wave my hand over other people's phones and expect it to just turn on when I pick it up. These may be new features I can't live without.

Short answer....best phone I have ever owned
I came from the HTC One, HTC One M8, and LG G3. Also had the Nexus 5 as my daily driver before leaving it for LG G3. ... This phone trumps them all (still use m8 for low light photos)
The bad......nothing really. The camera and battery are decent enough.....just nothing to brag on.
As far as performance....nothing is close. So smooth...so fast.....so fluid.
The phone screen looks amazing and the stereo headphone jack is provides the best sound I have heard outside of the HTCOne.
No phone is perfect.....but this phone came very close

I think it's too top heavy and not comfortable to hold. Maybe cuz I got leather and have a subconscious fear of scratching it or something. Ultimately, its fate w/me is doomed due to no root on verizon.
I'll give up the X if nexus comes out on verizon.

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I think it's too top heavy and not comfortable to hold. Maybe cuz I got leather and have a subconscious fear of scratching it or something. Ultimately, its fate w/me is doomed due to no root on verizon.
I'll give up the X if nexus comes out on verizon.
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This is the only downfall for me as well. I want gravitybox so bad. Just for the PIE controls so I can hide the nav bar. That extra screen real estate along with the one handed reachability would make this phone perfect for me.
I don't care about the camera quality, not a big deal for me. And the battery life is sufficient for me.

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So through a whole of problems with the GS4, and a little stroke of luck, I happened upon a Moto X 2014. I must say, the phone is smooth as butter. But I still feel like something is missing. My battery isn't a great feet, my camera is poor at best. The phone however is the fastest and smoothest I've ever seen an android phone. It makes me melt. But after using the LG G2 which I had for 2 days before this....I miss it comparatively to this. Just as fast, much larger battery, beautiful screen. The Moto X doesn't even have a "power save" feature, and that would at lest be helpful. I almost want to wait for the Droid Turbo, but by then my 14 days would be up. I'm just not sure what to do. So my question to others.....Are you happy with this device? or would you switch, given the opportunity? If so, to what?
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you'll be happy that L will bring this:
1. power saver built in
2. native code for camera stuff
3. project volt, which is supposed to help in battery
4. ...and much more
right now, there is nothing on the market that I want. so no, i would not switch. next year, maybe

after a week or so of using its okay. battery life sucks, i dont care about the camera, not sure why but many apps crash on it more than my nexus 5, and i can barely just barely see some hiccups/lag when navigating through the homescreen and some apps ill wait for android L tho

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after a week or so of using its okay. battery life sucks, i dont care about the camera, not sure why but many apps crash on it more than my nexus 5, and i can barely just barely see some hiccups/lag when navigating through the homescreen and some apps ill wait for android L tho
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Do you have ART enabled?

This phone is not top heavy, the center of its mass is right in the middle of the phone.
Just balance it on the index finger and you will see.
Best phone I used so far as well. But I never had any flagship devices before. Just a last years moto x, moto g, galaxy i9070... and an HTC one m8 as a phone for work, that's it.
But I saw many friends struggling with flagships while I was enjoying my moto x 2013.
I gave the HTC one m8 back to my boss and use the mx2013 now for my work and the mx2014 for private uses.
The mx2013 gave me an excellent experience, so I had no other choice than buying its successor.
BTW I hated the m8 even compared to the mx2013.
If Motorola doesn't **** it up, I'll buy their devices for a long time.

I could not be happier
Battery life could be bettet but ive yet to run out of it after a full day of work

How do you enable ART and what does it change? I assume this is the ART vs dalvik thing?
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How do you enable ART and what does it change? I assume this is the ART vs dalvik thing?
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It's in developer options. Don't enable it. Several users have reported an increase in force closes.

It's a bigger, faster, smoother moto x. If you liked the 2013 x but wanted something bigger, this will make you happy.

I like it, originally I let all the negative reviews get to me and even went back to my nexus 5 for a day. Then I realized how much nicer the moto x is. Its a great well rounded device. Unlocked bootloader with full warranty in tact, good camera, decent battery life, fast updates, near aosp and other great specs. Oh, and every time I'm on the phone I can smell wonderful leather lol.

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I like it, originally I let all the negative reviews get to me and even went back to my nexus 5 for a day. Then I realized how much nicer the moto x is. Its a great well rounded device. Unlocked bootloader with full warranty in tact, good camera, decent battery life, fast updates, near aosp and other great specs. Oh, and every time I'm on the phone I can smell wonderful leather lol.
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Unlocking the boot loader on the pure edition does not void the warranty? I have heard it does not but not sure.
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Unlocking the boot loader on the pure edition does not void the warranty? I have heard it does not but not sure.
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That's what I read from the Motorola feedback network administrator, he said they are "treating the pure edition like the 2013 Dev edition."

I love it, but I am interested in seeing what the Turbo and Nexus 6 bring to table, especially since it'll be on VZW. That being said, jumping to 5.2" from 4.7" was noticeable, can't really imagine carrying around 5.96"...

[Q] Which phone do you recommend me to upgrade to from a N4?

I have had a nexus 4 for almost 2 years and I like it. Even so it has its negative points, especially after all this time. It's not as responsive as it used to be and battery life, which wasn't stellar to begin with, has decayed a lot. With this in mind I have been searching for a good phone to replace it. I was waiting for the Nexus 6 to come out but when it was officially announced that screen size and the price scared me away.
After the announcement I have been searching and comparing a bunch of phones. I was interested on the OnePlus One but the buying process is a pain in the ass. I checked the S5 but then I remembered it had the infamous Touchwiz which I had already (even though in an earlier incarnation) on a Galaxy Ace I had before the N4 and there was also the fact that it is expensive as hell on my carrier. I also checked the HTC One M8 but the camera resolution seems horrible. I have checked the Sony Xperia line but it is as expensive as the S5 in my carrier and also pretty expensive on sites like Amazon. At last I have been comparing between a Nexus 5 and a LG G3. I know they have almost a year between them but I like the fact that the Nexus 5 is cheap and receives fast updates, although I have heard battery life was not improved very much. And, on the G3's side, it is newer, has better hardware and supposedly has a good battery life(I have heard mixed views on this as some say battery is good while others say it is horrible).
So, to sum it up, I would like to know your opinions and would also like to know if you happen to know some other options I haven't considered.
Thanks and sorry for the long post and if this wasn't the right forum to ask this.

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So, to sum it up, I would like to know your opinions and would also like to know if you happen to know some other options I haven't considered.
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Look at an LG G2. $400 for a new one, under $300 for a used one in good/mint condition. Beefy 3000mAh battery, very competent hardware, big screen in a not-so-big body, and a good amount of development if you want to try different ROMs/kernels. As cheap, or even cheaper, than a Nexus 5, but with a much bigger battery and better camera. With the G3 out, prices have plummeted on the G2, and have made it a veritable bargain.
The G3 is a hell of a phone. The QHD screen might drain the battery a bit more, but on this phone the battery is replaceable, so just buy a spare if you're worried about that. Not much development yet, but if you buy the T-Mobile version or one with an unlocked bootloader it's easy to root and modify with Xposed, which gives you plenty of options to tweak it to your satisfaction.
Regarding the HTC One's camera - it's not great, but it's not bad either. If all you're wanting to do is post pics to Facebook or internet forums, it's perfectly fine, since pictures will be reduced anyway. Where it suffers is in cropped detailed pics, and stuff like sweeping vistas and anything far away. That aside, the One is an awesome device.

My personal choice from what's available right now would definitely be the HTC One M8. If you don't care a huge deal about the camera then there are very few flaws to it at all. The camera on the M8 will definitely be worse in normal light than most other flagships but the pictures it takes are still far better than those from the N4 and in low light the camera performs better than most, not to mention the fact that it has good autofocus and a myriad of extra features which you may or may not find useful but they're still nice to have. Battery life is excellent, the screen is absolutely gorgeous, Sense brings extra features and (arguably) a nicer design than AOSP whilst retaining excellent performance and the phone is just generally far nicer to use than anything else I've tried.

Look for the Huawei Honor 6.
300$, full LTE, 16GB upgradable with microSD, beautiful 5" HD screen... I'm gonna buy this phone in the next week for replacement of my N4.

I went from a Nexus 4 to a HTC One M8 and hated it, hence why I'm back with my Nexus 4. That said, I'm definitely in the minority.
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who plans on keeping there 6p for a couple more years?

Hey all figured I'd see how many people feel the way I do. I've had 4 Nexus 6ps. I am a massive phone junky and trade up all the time. Recently I traded a pixel for a OnePlus 3t and then ended up getting rid of it and getting another Nexus 6p Ive replaced the battery and I have a new charger port on the way Ill also be replacing the speakers at some point to. I forgot how much I love the 6p I am planning on keeping this phone through Android 9 via custom rooms obiously and I was curious who is with me! I trully like the 6p better then the pixel and think that this phone with the new battery and port should last a long while! Many people hate the 810 chip however I've never had an issue with it on any of the phones I've owned with the chip.

Me bro screens large and beautiful. Also it's still a good speed. ?

Me too. It's a nice smartphone with a good screen, a good battery life and all apps work very well and fast.

I feel like I'm on the Titanic and loving it and everyone else is jumping off getting rescued and I'm still sitting at the bar drinking the highest quality wine. I know my time is up soon but I'm loving every minute until that happens.

Till death do us part.

Lol. I'm surprised this thread hasn't been flamed yet. A lot of unhappy owners floating around.
I love this phone to bits. A recognized contributor friend just picked up a second hand unit last week...ckpv5, king of sense launcher port (rooted version)in m8 forum. No scratches or dents and so far a good battery.
My 6p takes everything I throw at it. Viper, Dolby Oreo, Pixel 2 launcher, sense 9 launcher, pixel camera MOD, xposed Oreo, ex kernel color profiles, high brightness mode, google lens in assistant...
Having the time of my life. But without and thanks to our amazing devs, the 6p will not be attractive to the average consumer.

I just got a nexus 6p to replace my moto z and plan on keeping it for a year or 2. I love the screen, the front speakers and especially the camera. This is the best camera I've had on a phone. I also love the fact that it's very developer friendly.
The battery is crap though. According to accubattery it's down to 62% health. I'll be replacing that myself something soon.

Hey there. I was the proud owner of a Xiaomi MI5, that went trough a lot, 3 screen replacement and 2 batteries, and... It was time to put it to rest, but Xiaomi have proven to be great, have no complaint whatsoever. So, i decided to give a shot to a 6P, with 1 year of use, but as good as new... So far so good, great specs, beautiful phone, so...lets see how it goes.

Bought it for 120 usd and I'll keep it as long as I can. Coming from a boring S7.

No other smart phone has the power of this hardware, + Screen size. I did research for 2 months on phones and this was the only one compairable. (buying it for 350$) no other phone matches that price + specs. None. Pixel has less screen size... less processor... and cost more.. So idk how its a 'better' phone??? I looked for unlocked HTC's droids and other brands. I'm a "phablet" guy. and no one has this power for this screen size... ill never go with a smaller phone.
I'd RATHER LOSE HARDWARE Vs SCREEN SIZE but thats just me

I had to keep it until my phone died maybe, had to use money to replace my PC, because it getting old.
Pixel first gen had to many issue, so I rather avoid it, Pixel 2/XL 2 is ridiculous expensive, I wait till the price go down.

burningcreation said:
I feel like I'm on the Titanic and loving it and everyone else is jumping off getting rescued and I'm still sitting at the bar drinking the highest quality wine. I know my time is up soon but I'm loving every minute until that happens.
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This is exactly what I'm doing. Every new phone I look at has some downside that I'm not looking forward to. Pixel 2 has no headphone jack, OP5T has **** speakers, LG and Samsung phones have bloat and ****ty skins. This phone is perfect for me, I just get the feeling that my days with it are numbered. For now, though, it's awesome.

I almost got a pixel 2 but then I replaced the battery in my 6p instead. I'll definitely hold onto it at least until the pixel 3 phones come out.

Definitely will be keeping mine till it doesn't work anymore. I haven't change any hardware on mine including the battery though its not what it used to be but still I love my 6p till death lol. It's still fast and still works as well as I would hope for. I admit the devs are making me love it this long. I'm using ABC btw.

Been upset with battery life since Oreo upgrade. Going to flash official 7.1.2 and use it until it dies. I love my Nexus 6P!!

as long as it does not die on me i plan to keep it for a couple more years for sure.
i've had my 6p for about just a year now.
i love everything about the phone, had no issues for now thankfully.
no battery issues and no bootloop thingie, and i read often that there are users who owned the phone since launch and had zero issues with it up till now , so i hope it will turn out the same for me, and if it does then i will be good to go for a couple more years with my beloved 6p.
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gfighter said:
Been upset with battery life since Oreo upgrade. Going to flash official 7.1.2 and use it until it dies. I love my Nexus 6P!!
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maybe try ABC from storm and his superuber kernel.
i usually get good battery life on ABC Oreo.
same as on N.
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tropical cactus said:
Lol. I'm surprised this thread hasn't been flamed yet. A lot of unhappy owners floating around.
I love this phone to bits. A recognized contributor friend just picked up a second hand unit last week...ckpv5, king of sense launcher port (rooted version)in m8 forum. No scratches or dents and so far a good battery.
My 6p takes everything I throw at it. Viper, Dolby Oreo, Pixel 2 launcher, sense 9 launcher, pixel camera MOD, xposed Oreo, ex kernel color profiles, high brightness mode, google lens in assistant...
Having the time of my life. But without and thanks to our amazing devs, the 6p will not be attractive to the average consumer.
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defintely agreeing on the last part ,without our android devs every phone out there would become boring.
btw. Dolby oreo ? i am interested in that, is it any good? i usually use v4a.

I've replaced the battery and the daughterboard/USB port. now I wish I could make it a QC 821 or a QC 835...

leondestiny said:
maybe try ABC from storm and his superuber kernel.
i usually get good battery life on ABC Oreo.
same as on N.
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I'll give it a go, but I don't mind stock ROMs. I don't have any other issues and have had it since launch. The battery drain is annoying. EDIT: Can you send me a link to the ROM pls? Tried a search... no luck. Thx!
Actually, I remember Apple being investigated in Germany, or somewhere, for new iOS version making older handsets slow to force users to upgrade handsets. I suspect this maybe the same with my beloved Nexus 6P; that would make me angry.

@leondestiny
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74880570&postcount=31697

Changed the battery exactly yesterday!
This phone is amazing! I also disabled the 4 BIG core due to the bootloop problem, but hey! My phone runs butterly smooth and cool! It's cooler then before and lasts longer without any noticeable performance drop The bootloop was a win-win trade for me xD