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[Q] where to start? clockword recovery mod etc

Hi there guys,
I've been used to flashing android devices in the past (+2 years ago), but I don't have much experience with it nowadays.
first my current situation:
-I'm running MJ7 atm, rooted with kingo
i'm looking fo flash note's 3 4.4.2 kitkat rom, or omega rom, or cm11
If I understood correctly:
1) install a clockwork mod recovery for my 9005
> what "image" do I use for that? clockwork mod recovery doesn't have the note 3 9005 in it's list
2) install another rom through clockwork mod recover?
I've already tried looking for answers on this forum, but either they aren't for my specific device, or it doesn't explain the steps
Any suggestions guys?
The custom recovery is needed because... samsung's recovery is limited or something?
Trying to find answers to these questions!
In case I overlooked some topics, feel free to point me towards them!
Thanks in advance!
Nick

seventje84 said:
Hi there guys,
I've been used to flashing android devices in the past (+2 years ago), but I don't have much experience with it nowadays.
first my current situation:
-I'm running MJ7 atm, rooted with kingo
i'm looking fo flash note's 3 4.4.2 kitkat rom, or omega rom, or cm11
If I understood correctly:
1) install a clockwork mod recovery for my 9005
> what "image" do I use for that? clockwork mod recovery doesn't have the note 3 9005 in it's list
2) install another rom through clockwork mod recover?
I've already tried looking for answers on this forum, but either they aren't for my specific device, or it doesn't explain the steps
Any suggestions guys?
The custom recovery is needed because... samsung's recovery is limited or something?
Trying to find answers to these questions!
In case I overlooked some topics, feel free to point me towards them!
Thanks in advance!
Nick
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OK, so before you flash you need to know that if you upgrade to 4.4.2 Official your bootloader upgrades and you cannot use CM nor can you go back to 4.3. SO you need to decide which you'd prefer to do.
As for recovery, yes you need a custom recovery to flash a custom mod. -- CWM by Chenglu is the only recovery that currently works on Kitkat 4.4.2.
TWRP/PhilZ/CWM work on 4.3 - so you can flash anything up until MK/ML*
CM11/OMEGA/CRASH/ALLIANCE etc all run on Mj7/MK2-3/ML2 currently so are compatible with your 4.3 build
Since you rooted via Kingo, is your KNOX preserved? because installing a custom recovery will void this.

radicalisto said:
OK, so before you flash you need to know that if you upgrade to 4.4.2 Official your bootloader upgrades and you cannot use CM nor can you go back to 4.3. SO you need to decide which you'd prefer to do.
As for recovery, yes you need a custom recovery to flash a custom mod. -- CWM by Chenglu is the only recovery that currently works on Kitkat 4.4.2.
TWRP/PhilZ/CWM work on 4.3 - so you can flash anything up until MK/ML*
CM11/OMEGA/CRASH/ALLIANCE etc all run on Mj7/MK2-3/ML2 currently so are compatible with your 4.3 build
Since you rooted via Kingo, is your KNOX preserved? because installing a custom recovery will void this.
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First of all, I want to thank you for the swift response!
So basically:
-once I flash original 4.4.2 I get a new bootloader and I cannot install a different rom except stock one atm?
-If I flash CM11/Omega etc it's no issue.. Any idea why though? CM11 is also 4.4.2 based.. but it doesn't come with new restrictive bootloader I suppose?
-I rooted through kingo, and during boot I don't see any special "text", so I suppose my knox is preserved
-about the "voiding", I found a piece of text in the european law here about rooting and voiding warranty that will help me if I ever needed that warranty
-Question about CMW recovery: If I install it from the play store, what kind of "recovery" do I need to install? is there a Database for that or some sort?

seventje84 said:
First of all, I want to thank you for the swift response!
So basically:
-once I flash original 4.4.2 I get a new bootloader and I cannot install a different rom except stock one atm?
-If I flash CM11/Omega etc it's no issue.. Any idea why though? CM11 is also 4.4.2 based.. but it doesn't come with new restrictive bootloader I suppose?
-I rooted through kingo, and during boot I don't see any special "text", so I suppose my knox is preserved
-about the "voiding", I found a piece of text in the european law here about rooting and voiding warranty that will help me if I ever needed that warranty
-Question about CMW recovery: If I install it from the play store, what kind of "recovery" do I need to install? is there a Database for that or some sort?
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1- Yup, once you get the new bootloader you can't downgrade, you can however flash ROMS which are created with this new bootloader, so far SweetROM, AndroidNow NG and(soon to be coming) AllianceROM are NA6 compatible.
2-CM was built on the old BL source, it'll probably eventually get updated to NA6 BL at some point, but for now it's based on MJ7 BL.
3/4- Yup if you are EU like myself, then KNOX warranty means nothing to us, I was just confirming you were aware of this
-- CWM has to be installed via ODIN, takes 20seconds to flash via PDA option in ODIN 1.85. CWM will be your main base recovery and you can install/wipe/mount etc as and when you need to.
*Side note, my advice, stick with your current bootloader and avoid the new kitkat bootloader, install CWM and flash in temasek's CM build and custom kernel. It's a fantastic build! just need to install the gAPPS to get Playstore and google apps etc - also Official Nightlies have been announced and are live by CM**
Any other queries just post away :good:

seventje84 said:
First of all, I want to thank you for the swift response!
So basically:
-once I flash original 4.4.2 I get a new bootloader and I cannot install a different rom except stock one atm?
-If I flash CM11/Omega etc it's no issue.. Any idea why though? CM11 is also 4.4.2 based.. but it doesn't come with new restrictive bootloader I suppose?
-I rooted through kingo, and during boot I don't see any special "text", so I suppose my knox is preserved
-about the "voiding", I found a piece of text in the european law here about rooting and voiding warranty that will help me if I ever needed that warranty
-Question about CMW recovery: If I install it from the play store, what kind of "recovery" do I need to install? is there a Database for that or some sort?
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Where do we find that piece of law? Im just curious since I'm also knox 0x1 Hehe. Currently running Androidnow but after 1 day it seems that I have some forced reboots. Don't know where it comes from. I guess it's because I installed the rom from external sd.
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Koumorisword said:
Where do we find that piece of law? Im just curious since I'm also knox 0x1 Hehe. Currently running Androidnow but after 1 day it seems that I have some forced reboots. Don't know where it comes from. I guess it's because I installed the rom from external sd.
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Did you dirty flash? - try another ROM, that may be a little buggy... However I suspect you didn't do a full wipe and that's the issue with the FC's

radicalisto said:
Did you dirty flash? - try another ROM, that may be a little buggy... However I suspect you didn't do a full wipe and that's the issue with the FC's
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I did the Cwm based Phil "prepare for other rom" wipe. Manual wipe would be better you think?
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Koumorisword said:
I did the Cwm based Phil "prepare for other rom" wipe. Manual wipe would be better you think?
Sent from my SM-N9005 using xda app-developers app
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Nope, that wipe should be enough. Probably a buggy ROM. Try another and see if you have any issues.

Koumorisword said:
Where do we find that piece of law? Im just curious since I'm also knox 0x1 Hehe.
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You want to look for EU Directive 1999/44/CE
http://matija.suklje.name/rooting-and-flashing-your-device-does-not-void-the-warranty-in-eu

s5 G900W8 canadian ROM Ready?

I have a galaxy s5 canadian version i already rooted it but seem like there is new knox thing on these phones. basically i want to flash the xtrolite rom im already rooted what other steps do i need to do to get the rom on my phone? ie unlocking a bootloader? or is it unlocked already? do i need to flash a recovery? since alot of people are talking about xposed framework and i read somewhere tht you dont need recovery if you have xposed which i dont know what it is. can someone please help me? Thanks

sofia-captivate said:
I have a galaxy s5 canadian version i already rooted it but seem like there is new knox thing on these phones. basically i want to flash the xtrolite rom im already rooted what other steps do i need to do to get the rom on my phone? ie unlocking a bootloader? or is it unlocked already? do i need to flash a recovery? since alot of people are talking about xposed framework and i read somewhere tht you dont need recovery if you have xposed which i dont know what it is. can someone please help me? Thanks
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You should first of all install this recovery: "philz touch recovery" Look for threads on this forum and youtube videos how to do it, follow this exactly and properly because this part you don't want to mess up.
When done with that you want to take a backup with "philz touch recovery" there is also guides and videos on how to do that.
Both this things are pretty easy but just be carefull you do them right.
When that is done you will install your ROM, that is very easy. Download ROM to your SD card and use an app like "ROM customizer" to install the ROM. There might be different installs for different ROMS' all ROMs have their own guides, but most of them are pretty much the same.
Just read and you will know everything about how to do this very soon.

kgyirhj said:
You should first of all install this recovery: "philz touch recovery" Look for threads on this forum and youtube videos how to do it, follow this exactly and properly because this part you don't want to mess up.
When done with that you want to take a backup with "philz touch recovery" there is also guides and videos on how to do that.
Both this things are pretty easy but just be carefull you do them right.
When that is done you will install your ROM, that is very easy. Download ROM to your SD card and use an app like "ROM customizer" to install the ROM. There might be different installs for different ROMS' all ROMs have their own guides, but most of them are pretty much the same.
Just read and you will know everything about how to do this very soon.
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do i need to unlock bootloader or do something to knox or disable knox? im not sure cause only thing i have done to this device is root only. i know how to flash this recovery i think also know how to backup. im just scared as i have the canadian version if there is any other steps to take?

sofia-captivate said:
do i need to unlock bootloader or do something to knox or disable knox? im not sure cause only thing i have done to this device is root only. i know how to flash this recovery i think also know how to backup. im just scared as i have the canadian version if there is any other steps to take?
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I don't think there is much to worry about.
The ROM you want to install supports your version. The recovery should do too.
Just make sure you do everything right when installing the recovery and you should be fine.
Any mistake after that can be repaired with your recovery.
Root is all you need. You should not need to unlock anything else. And don't worry about KNOX.
If your bootloader is locked, then I don't know how to solve it. But I don't think it's locked, only a few service providers in the world lock the bootloaders.
If it is I'm very sorry!

kgyirhj said:
I don't think there is much to worry about.
The ROM you want to install supports your version. The recovery should do too.
Just make sure you do everything right when installing the recovery and you should be fine.
Any mistake after that can be repaired with your recovery.
Root is all you need. You should not need to unlock anything else. And don't worry about KNOX.
If your bootloader is locked, then I don't know how to solve it. But I don't think it's locked, only a few service providers in the world lock the bootloaders.
If it is I'm very sorry!
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how to know if my bootloader is locked or unlocked? Thanks once i know this im ready to go and flash everything. Thank you somuch

sofia-captivate said:
how to know if my bootloader is locked or unlocked? Thanks once i know this im ready to go and flash everything. Thank you somuch
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I don't know how to see that beforhand. Just try to do the flash and you should see if it works or not.
If it's fail because it's locked you will notice and then nothing will be broken.
If it's not locked you will have a successful flash, which you will see.
I have read about other Canadians installing ROMS and flashing Recovery so I think you will have success!

sofia-captivate said:
how to know if my bootloader is locked or unlocked? Thanks once i know this im ready to go and flash everything. Thank you somuch
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The Canadian W8 ROM does not have a locked bootloader. It can be rooted, custom recovery can be installed and if you want, ROMs installed.
With Xposed Framework you don't really need custom ROM. Beauty of root is that you can use titanium backup to freeze dozens of bloatware apps from samsung and others, run Xposed, run other apps that need root, fix the stupid kitkat permissions on SD card, backup your ROM etc.
Once rooted you can also use a third party kernel that supports under or over clocking, depending on your need. Custom kernel developers work hard to get you better battery life.
One thing other poster didn't mention is that when you install custom recovery it will trip Knox. Please don't ask what that is. Look it up and decide. Your warranty will be void.

harry_fine said:
The Canadian W8 ROM does not have a locked bootloader. It can be rooted, custom recovery can be installed and if you want, ROMs installed.
With Xposed Framework you don't really need custom ROM. Beauty of root is that you can use titanium backup to freeze dozens of bloatware apps from samsung and others, run Xposed, run other apps that need root, fix the stupid kitkat permissions on SD card, backup your ROM etc.
Once rooted you can also use a third party kernel that supports under or over clocking, depending on your need. Custom kernel developers work hard to get you better battery life.
One thing other poster didn't mention is that when you install custom recovery it will trip Knox. Please don't ask what that is. Look it up and decide. Your warranty will be void.
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Exactly what I'm doing
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Brava27 said:
Exactly what I'm doing
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Has anyone been able to get Viper4Android working on 6.0.1?
I have root, busy box, and SU installed and working but Viper refuses to install the driver. Can someone please help?
I have the G900-W8 with Rogers.

Looking for Canadian i337m users.

Hello all. First off I have a I337m with baseband NE1. I never see this mentioned anywhere and wanted to know what I can do with this phone.
I've rooted already (with towelroot) and wanted to get a custom bootloader. I've read and read then read somemore but found too many mixed staments regarding this.
Can I install a custom bootloader (say through goo manager) without worries or is there more to it? Does it completely overwrite the stock bootloader?
Do I need to worry about Loki?
Can we use other carrier ROMs?
Is it safe to say that everything in this sub forum works with my device?
Im familiar with flashing and the likes coming from the S2 with CM10.2 but there are too many varients and mixed statments (old to new methods) and I can't for the life of me find direction.

This is what I know about the i337m, mind you I don't have the device:
You can root using chainfires cf-auto root
Use trwp manager to install twrp
You can flash any rom here and you don't need Loki
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Bluntified said:
Hello all. First off I have a I337m with baseband NE1. I never see this mentioned anywhere and wanted to know what I can do with this phone.
I've rooted already (with towelroot) and wanted to get a custom bootloader. I've read and read then read somemore but found too many mixed staments regarding this.
Can I install a custom bootloader (say through goo manager) without worries or is there more to it? Does it completely overwrite the stock bootloader?
Do I need to worry about Loki?
Can we use other carrier ROMs?
Is it safe to say that everything in this sub forum works with my device?
Im familiar with flashing and the likes coming from the S2 with CM10.2 but there are too many varients and mixed statments (old to new methods) and I can't for the life of me find direction.
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I have the same phone on Telus... as far as the "custom bootloader" I think you really mean custom recovery, I use TWRP version 2.7. You can also use Philz recovery or CWM but I perfer TWRP as it hasnt given me any issues. If you load TWRP don't go for the latest version as I have seen guys have problems with the latest and greatest.
Once you have twrp on your phone... before you do anything else... make a backup in twrp of your current rooted stock rom so you have a starting point. In twrp, I like to do all backups to the external sd card as there may come a time where you do a factory wipe... and poof its gone...
In the developement thread... there is a rom called Mapleleaf works very well on this phone... I run it myself with the googy-max3 kernel.
If you decide to flash anything else... make sure it will work for i337m, I have seen people get into trouble flashing things meant for the US version (i337). Our bootloader is unlocked so you don't need saftey strap or loki or other things that the i337 users need.
When in doubt... search the forum... if you find nothing... ask before you do anything strange.
As far as the bootloader goes... try to stay on your current one.. mine is still MK6. Once the bootloader is updated there is no going back... period.....

This helped a lot man, I appreciate it.
So just to clarify, can I use goo manager for the recovery or should I use Odin? And is there any version in particular [TWRP] that I should use? What version are you running?
How do I check my bootloader version?
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Bluntified said:
This helped a lot man, I appreciate it.
So just to clarify, can I use goo manager for the recovery or should I use Odin? And is there any version in particular [TWRP] that I should use? What version are you running?
How do I check my bootloader version?
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You can use goo manager or Odin. Just make sure you have the right version. FYI twrp 2.5.0.2 is the most reliable version that I have used for this device.
Tapatalked from California Custom Chrome M&M I337m

If you want an older version of twrp use odin... goomanager will likely try to load the latest version... as for checking which bootloader version you have, download the app phone info from the play store.... here... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo&hl=en
my version of twrp is 2.6.3.1 and it works fine... as stated... 2.5 is also recommended by some of the devs....

My bootloader ends in NE1, does that pose a problem - I rarely see it mentioned anywhere? I took the OTA in case anyone is wondering. Basically, can I flash something that's not NE1?
Also, I've been reading that the ROM that's going to be flashed needs to be the same Android Version as the current one on the phone, is this still true?

Bluntified said:
My bootloader ends in NE1, does that pose a problem - I rarely see it mentioned anywhere? I took the OTA in case anyone is wondering. Basically, can I flash something that's not NE1?
Also, I've been reading that the ROM that's going to be flashed needs to be the same Android Version as the current one on the phone, is this still true?
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This will mean you can flash any rom (for i337m) that is 4.4.2 version of android. You can always go up on android version to bootloader but you can't go down versions unless the bootloader is an earlier version. Since most roms are 4.4.2 or higher, I don't think this should be an issue, not many people are looking to go to an older version of android..... bigger... better and all that...

Gage_Hero said:
This will mean you can flash any rom (for i337m) that is 4.4.2 version of android. You can always go up on android version to bootloader but you can't go down versions unless the bootloader is an earlier version. Since most roms are 4.4.2 or higher, I don't think this should be an issue, not many people are looking to go to an older version of android..... bigger... better and all that...
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Is this true, bc I have a bell galaxy 4, 4.4.2 i337m NE1 , I want to install a custom recovery,
but I thought my bootloader was locked because its says write protection enabled on the download screen which I thought
meant the bootloader was locked.

strakn said:
Is this true, bc I have a bell galaxy 4, 4.4.2 i337m NE1 , I want to install a custom recovery,
but I thought my bootloader was locked because its says write protection enabled on the download screen which I thought
meant the bootloader was locked.
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The I337M bootloader is not locked. What you are seeing when you boot after rooting is that you tripped KNOX since new bootloaders are closely tied to KNOX so any violation = tripped KNOX.
I have I337M from Telus with NE1 bootloader (4.4.2) and custom Rom PhoeniX. Everything is great except a newly discovered TD Bank App and inability to link my TD Visa to it...

[Q] Proper Rooting and SafeStrap Process NC4

Okay so I've been browsing through the forums and been reading up on this phone (even contacted Samsung about info on unlocking the bootloader, no go on that. Had to try though)
Basically I want to know what's the proper procedure for installing custom roms on an NC4 device 4.4.2
Things I know:
Bootloader is unlockable at the moment (hoping for some good news in the future)
Towelroot for rooting
Safestrap for recovery
(Both just download and install the apk)
Things I don't know:
Kernel?
Somebody said I had to flash the NC2 kernel via Odin?
Knox?
What is this? What trips it?
I did see the list of guides and I did read and watch all the necessary ones, but the date on those are from 2 years ago and I just need confirmation on if I'm going about this right.
Any help is appreciated. I thank you in advance for taking the time to read this.
Please excuse my lack of knowledge, this is my first Samsung device.
Also, what would happen if somebody were to flash the DE stock files via Odin to a Retail N3?

If you upgraded to NC4 or NK1, you're stuck until Samsung unlocks the bootloader or Verizon stops lying to their customers. There is no root available after upgrade at this moment in time.

Dravekx said:
If you upgraded to NC4 or NK1, you're stuck until Samsung unlocks the bootloader or Verizon stops lying to their customers. There is no root available after upgrade at this moment in time.
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I didn't upgrade to NC4, it came like this.

rdar_93 said:
I didn't upgrade to NC4, it came like this.
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That sucks. You can't do anything about it at the moment. I was forced to upgrade and lost root. Custom ROMs won't be available to you or me until someone finds a hole to unlock the bootloader. Welcome to our Verizon Note 3 rooting dilemma.

mirrin said:
You do not have a dev version so cm 11 or 12 is a far off dream you won't get. Your bootloader is locked there is no unlock.
You are in luck nc4 is root able using towel root then safe strap and the unified firmware. You will need odin and a pc for flashing a few things the NK1 modem towel root and the unified firmware. Pick a rom from the development thread i suggest jasmine 1.x or eclipse.
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Copied from another post I had.
I don't know much about the device which is why I'm trying to find out.

Dravekx said:
That sucks. You can't do anything about it at the moment. I was forced to upgrade and lost root. Custom ROMs won't be available to you or me until someone finds a hole to unlock the bootloader. Welcome to our Verizon Note 3 rooting dilemma.
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I actually just got root on my phone, I felt adventurous and installed towelroot and voila it rooted my phone.
I should state that I'm on 4.4.2, not 4.4.4.
Checked root status with Titanium Backup Pro, everything checked out a-okay.

rdar_93 said:
Okay so I've been browsing through the forums and been reading up on this phone (even contacted Samsung about info on unlocking the bootloader, no go on that. Had to try though)
Basically I want to know what's the proper procedure for installing custom roms on an NC4 device 4.4.2
Things I know:
Bootloader is unlockable at the moment (hoping for some good news in the future)
Towelroot for rooting
Safestrap for recovery
(Both just download and install the apk)
Things I don't know:
Kernel?
Somebody said I had to flash the NC2 kernel via Odin?
Knox?
What is this? What trips it?
I did see the list of guides and I did read and watch all the necessary ones, but the date on those are from 2 years ago and I just need confirmation on if I'm going about this right.
Any help is appreciated. I thank you in advance for taking the time to read this.
Please excuse my lack of knowledge, this is my first Samsung device.
Also, what would happen if somebody were to flash the DE stock files via Odin to a Retail N3?
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Ahhhh... You're good to go then! Find a good custom ROM and follow the instructions. Whatever you do.. Don't upgrade!
rdar_93 said:
I actually just got root on my phone, I felt adventurous and installed towelroot and voila it rooted my phone.
I should state that I'm on 4.4.2, not 4.4.4.
Checked root status with Titanium Backup Pro, everything checked out a-okay.
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Dravekx said:
Ahhhh... You're good to go then! Find a good custom ROM and follow the instructions. Whatever you do.. Don't upgrade!
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Lol I still need clarification on the Kernel information that I don't know about.
What do I need to flash?
Do I flash it after I install a custom rom or before?

rdar_93 said:
Lol I still need clarification on the Kernel information that I don't know about.
What do I need to flash?
Do I flash it after I install a custom rom or before?
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My opinion: If you're doing a custom kernel, make sure it works with whatever ROM you're flashing. I suggest sticking with the stock kernel* until you get the hang of things OR do a little research and learn a bit before you attempt anything. There's a lot of forums with details and help here. I've installed kernels before and after installing ROMs with little or zero problems, but I'm more of a dabbler than a professional.
I would suggest backing up your current setup in case you need to reflash. That's a definite.

Dravekx said:
My opinion: If you're doing a custom kernel, make sure it works with whatever ROM you're flashing. I suggest sticking with the stock kernel* until you get the hang of things OR do a little research and learn a bit before you attempt anything. There's a lot of forums with details and help here. I've installed kernels before and after installing ROMs with little or zero problems, but I'm more of a dabbler than a professional.
I would suggest backing up your current setup in case you need to reflash. That's a definite.
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Lol that doesn't really answer the question. I hope somebody sees it and clears it up for me

rdar_93 said:
Lol that doesn't really answer the question. I hope somebody sees it and clears it up for me
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The kernel can't be changed...although it can be "tuned" if you have root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=58813428
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Still hoping somebody helps me out and posts a short but precise guide to install a custom rom on 4.4.2 NC4
I don't want to end up bricking my device on the first try. I've been there already and it sucks lol

rdar_93 said:
Still hoping somebody helps me out and posts a short but precise guide to install a custom rom on 4.4.2 NC4
I don't want to end up bricking my device on the first try. I've been there already and it sucks lol
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It really depends on the ROM, there is no set guide for all ROMs.
Did you install busybox? I like using busybox on rails. Just download the app and click install.
Download the safestrap apk (3.75 B04) and install that, open it and install recovery.
I'm currently running Clean ROM. I am on NC4. I downloaded the rom, and moved it to my SD card. I rebooted to safestrap, wiped data, cache and dalvik then installed the ROM to the stock slot. Then, following the instructions for Clean ROM, I rebooted to download mode from recovery and flashed the NC2 Kernel with odin.
The main thing is to read the installation instructions for the particular ROM you want to flash.
Don't forget to use Titanium backup to freeze SDM app (I think that's what its called) so your phone will stop trying to update.
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rdar_93 said:
Still hoping somebody helps me out and posts a short but precise guide to install a custom rom on 4.4.2 NC4
I don't want to end up bricking my device on the first try. I've been there already and it sucks lol
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If you're at all proficient with Odin it is really REALLY hard to brick these phones.

BladeRunner said:
It really depends on the ROM, there is no set guide for all ROMs.
Did you install busybox? I like using busybox on rails. Just download the app and click install.
Download the safestrap apk (3.75 B04) and install that, open it and install recovery.
I'm currently running Clean ROM. I am on NC4. I downloaded the rom, and moved it to my SD card. I rebooted to safestrap, wiped data, cache and dalvik then installed the ROM to the stock slot. Then, following the instructions for Clean ROM, I rebooted to download mode from recovery and flashed the NC2 Kernel with odin.
The main thing is to read the installation instructions for the particular ROM you want to flash.
Don't forget to use Titanium backup to freeze SDM app (I think that's what its called) so your phone will stop trying to update.
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If you're at all proficient with Odin it is really REALLY hard to brick these phones.
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Thanks man, I was supposed to update this thread saying that I got through with the proper procedure for installing Jasmine Rom
Although I was running Eclipse before, and I wanted to try going back to stock but it just got stuck on the Verizon splash screen
I'm thinking it's because I had the NC2 kernel active when I should have gone back to the NC4 kernel
I looked for a NC4 kernel to flash but I only saw the modems and tar files, so not knowing if those were the same as kernels I decided to just try Jasmine. So far, I like it.
I have crazy battery drain though. I think it's because I'm running it in Slot 1

just picked up a verizon note 3 android 4.4.2 NC4
one of the very first posts above says you cant do anything on NC4 and then another post says NC4 is ok but just not android 4.4.4
NC4 is the latest update as of this writing isnt it?
what can actually be done with this vzw note 3 on android 4.4.2 NC4?
non dev edition of course
what about knox?
if rooting can be done with this phone on this OS is there any safe way not to trip knox?

en11gma said:
just picked up a verizon note 3 android 4.4.2 NC4
one of the very first posts above says you cant do anything on NC4 and then another post says NC4 is ok but just not android 4.4.4
NC4 is the latest update as of this writing isnt it?
what can actually be done with this vzw note 3 on android 4.4.2 NC4?
non dev edition of course
what about knox?
if rooting can be done with this phone on this OS is there any safe way not to trip knox?
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I'd be happy to answer your questions
If you have an NC4 device that's running 4.4.2, you are able to gain root access and install safestrap recovery on your device. However, if the android version is 4.4.4, you cannot root or install safestrap.
NC4 is just our last build number, but there are two versions I think, the 4.4.2 and the 4.4.4. In the 4.4.4, they blacklisted every single compatible kernel that could work on the device. They forgot to do it in the 4.4.2 version, that's why we're able to gain root.
On our NC4 4.4.2 Verizon Note 3, we can root, install safestrap recovery and install a very limited amount of roms from the non developer edition selection on the XDA forums.
Rooting via towelroot, to my knowledge, does not trip knox. However, installing safestrap recovery does. But if you're worried about your warranty being voided, I wouldn't panic too much because with our bootloader being locked, it is very easy to flash the original Stock Verizon files through Odin to go straight back to factory settings so it looks like if you just pulled it out the box. The knox code would be reset and you would have a device that looked like if it has never been rooted or modified.

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I'd be happy to answer your questions
If you have an NC4 device that's running 4.4.2, you are able to gain root access and install safestrap recovery on your device. However, if the android version is 4.4.4, you cannot root or install safestrap.
NC4 is just our last build number, but there are two versions I think, the 4.4.2 and the 4.4.4. In the 4.4.4, they blacklisted every single compatible kernel that could work on the device. They forgot to do it in the 4.4.2 version, that's why we're able to gain root.
On our NC4 4.4.2 Verizon Note 3, we can root, install safestrap recovery and install a very limited amount of roms from the non developer edition selection on the XDA forums.
Rooting via towelroot, to my knowledge, does not trip knox. However, installing safestrap recovery does. But if you're worried about your warranty being voided, I wouldn't panic too much because with our bootloader being locked, it is very easy to flash the original Stock Verizon files through Odin to go straight back to factory settings so it looks like if you just pulled it out the box. The knox code would be reset and you would have a device that looked like if it has never been rooted or modified.
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Safestrap does not trip knox.

mjh68 said:
Safestrap does not trip knox.
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Thanks. I must have tripped mine somehow cause my device says "custom" when booting.
I'm guessing it might be Xposed but I'm not too sure.

rdar_93 said:
Thanks. I must have tripped mine somehow cause my device says "custom" when booting.
I'm guessing it might be Xposed but I'm not too sure.
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It will say custom, but that isn't tripping knox. Custom can be removed with the triangle away app. Custom just gets flagged like you were saying by changing the recovery , but it doesn't trip the knox counter.

mjh68 said:
It will say custom, but that isn't tripping knox. Custom can be removed with the triangle away app. Custom just gets flagged like you were saying by changing the recovery , but it doesn't trip the knox counter.
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Then I must be confused about what knox really is.
What is "Knox" then?

Sprint Galaxy S4 Rooting

I've spent hours searching and I know this is an old phone. Is ther anyway to root the Lollipop and download Jelly Bean (custom or stock) to it? I'm not worried about Warranties. I'm not exactly a newb and I don't like Lollipop at all. I don't mind KitKat, but what I hate is the front facing camera can't be flipped. Dumbest thing ever.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-sprint
Search for CF-Autoroot.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-sprint
Search for CF-Autoroot.
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I'm supposedly rooted. I used KingRoot and then switched over yo SuperSU. But I can't seem to get the Rom's to install. This is where I'm probably going wrong. I'm assuming it has to do with the Bootloader.

BikerSk8rKid said:
I'm supposedly rooted. I used KingRoot and then switched over yo SuperSU. But I can't seem to get the Rom's to install. This is where I'm probably going wrong. I'm assuming it has to do with the Bootloader.
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Ask the right questions if you want the right answer.
You said you're not a newb. So what exactly was the procedure used to to install those ROMs?

Well, you should be using CF-Autoroot, as it's the recommended method to root these devices. That said, unless you have a frankenphone, only AT&T and Verizon models have locked bootloaders. Enter download mode and verify your device's model number please?

GDReaper said:
Ask the right questions if you want the right answer.
You said you're not a newb. So what exactly was the procedure used to to install those ROMs?
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I was half asleep and stressed out when I posted this. It's been a couple weeks or longer since I messed with the phone. Damn forums weren't resetting my password. When I mean I'm not a newb I mean I'm not like brand new to this and I know how to research. I guess you could say I'm not THAT stupid. haha
I'mma have to try this again and figure out what path's I kept trying. I'm so spaced out I can't remember hard any of it. Just that I tried to flash a stock and rooted rom with old odin and new odin. Spent 2 days straight messing with it and trying to get around it. But I kept getting blocked. I didn't come across CF-Autoroot. So I'll try that.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Well, you should be using CF-Autoroot, as it's the recommended method to root these devices. That said, unless you have a frankenphone, only AT&T and Verizon models have locked bootloaders. Enter download mode and verify your device's model number please?
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Of all the researching I've done (I couldn't login) that one never showed up in my searchs. haha I'll have to give that one a try. It's been a couple weeks or longer. SPH-L720. I had a few Tri-Bands, but it seemed those were limited compared to the standard model.

Update: I went the CF-AutoRoot route and then tried to use Odin to flash stock mk2 rom. Now that I remember it kept failing everytime and then it would corrupt the current rom. I also tried using TWRP and couldn't get it to work properly.

That's a Sprint device, so your bootloader is unlocked.
Here's something you should note: If you want to flash a ROM, of any kind, you don't necessarily have to be rooted.
Stock ROMs require Odin and custom ROMs require a custom recovery. None of them require root.
Your flash to an older version fails most probably due to the fact that you're trying to downgrade the bootloader (Any stock ROM flash also modifies the bootloader and modem partitions).
But your windows, cable, USB port and windows can also be at fault here.

GDReaper said:
That's a Sprint device, so your bootloader is unlocked.
Here's something you should note: If you want to flash a ROM, of any kind, you don't necessarily have to be rooted.
Stock ROMs require Odin and custom ROMs require a custom recovery. None of them require root.
Your flash to an older version fails most probably due to the fact that you're trying to downgrade the bootloader (Any stock ROM flash also modifies the bootloader and modem partitions).
But your windows, cable, USB port and windows can also be at fault here.
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For some reason I kept reading that it was locked or thinking it was locked because of not being able to downgrade.
So that's what I thought and I guess that's what I was trying to get at in my first post. Trying to go from Lollipop 5 to Jelly Bean 4.3 or so. Is it possible to do that whether it's custom or not?
I just hate the Lollipop and the KitKat. My Galaxy S2 had the JB and Power Button took a crap. So I ended up getting a S3 and now been sitting on an S4.
I know it's not the cable or at least it shouldn't be because it works to flash the stock current rom everytime I corrupt it. The computer is like brand new and running Windows 8.1

BikerSk8rKid said:
For some reason I kept reading that it was locked or thinking it was locked because of not being able to downgrade.
So that's what I thought and I guess that's what I was trying to get at in my first post. Trying to go from Lollipop 5 to Jelly Bean 4.3 or so. Is it possible to do that whether it's custom or not?
I just hate the Lollipop and the KitKat. My Galaxy S2 had the JB and Power Button took a crap. So I ended up getting a S3 and now been sitting on an S4.
I know it's not the cable or at least it shouldn't be because it works to flash the stock current rom everytime I corrupt it. The computer is like brand new and running Windows 8.1
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Downgrading sometimes succeeds. There are also guides on how to downgrade, though there aren't any special procedures. Maybe the bootloader version of the firmware-to-be-flashed matters.
With custom ROMs it's definitely possible, as they do not change the bootloader.

GDReaper said:
Downgrading sometimes succeeds. There are also guides on how to downgrade, though there aren't any special procedures. Maybe the bootloader version of the firmware-to-be-flashed matters.
With custom ROMs it's definitely possible, as they do not change the bootloader.
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I guess I'm more of a newb with this than I expected. :/ It's been years since I've been on the forums or even tinkered with phones. HTC Touch Pro 2 was the last one I believe. haha
So... With that being said. Custom Roms are typically to the current stock rom, correct? or is it possible to get a Custom Jelly Bean and flash/overwrite it to the Lollipop/current? Since I just tripped wit the Knox Warranty with the CF-AutoRoot. LoL

BikerSk8rKid said:
I guess I'm more of a newb with this than I expected. :/ It's been years since I've been on the forums or even tinkered with phones. HTC Touch Pro 2 was the last one I believe. haha
So... With that being said. Custom Roms are typically to the current stock rom, correct? or is it possible to get a Custom Jelly Bean and flash/overwrite it to the Lollipop/current? Since I just tripped wit the Knox Warranty with the CF-AutoRoot. LoL
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If you can find some viable download links, then yes, you should be able to flash custom jelly bean ROMs. But you need a custom recovery in order to do that.
The recovery can be flashed with Odin. Or, since you're rooted, you can also flash a recovery by using an app called Flashify.
Odin requires a .tar file and Flashify requires a .img file.
Oh, and you also need the gapps package for the Google Apps. You need a package for that specific android version, so it should be jelly bean gapps.

GDReaper said:
If you can find some viable download links, then yes, you should be able to flash custom jelly bean ROMs. But you need a custom recovery in order to do that.
The recovery can be flashed with Odin. Or, since you're rooted, you can also flash a recovery by using an app called Flashify.
Odin requires a .tar file and Flashify requires a .img file.
Oh, and you also need the gapps package for the Google Apps. You need a package for that specific android version, so it should be jelly bean gapps.
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I'll look into that and give it a shot. Thank you! I knew it wasn't THAT easy. LOL