using the tablet for whiteboard presentations - Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General

Was I mistaken in thinking this "Galaxy Note" would be a better digital whiteboarding tool than an iPad?
Is there any way to project a drawing/notetaking app to a computer? Why are there NO simple ways to mirror your screen to a PC or mac? Tried allcast, looked at Samsung mirroring, Mirrorop, but none of it seems to be as easy as it was on my iPad (airplay to an airplay receiver app on my computer).
The S-Pen/active digitizer works SO much better than the Adonit Jot Touch, but I'm extremely disappointed in the difficulty of getting the picture to a projector.
Hopefully one of you can enlighten me with sagely wisdom, or I'm going to have to <gasp> buy another iPad

Chromecast?

Note10.1Dude said:
Chromecast?
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No, my name is Dominic
Yes, the chromecast allows you to project video, pictures, and music to an HDMI input that's on the same network as your tablet, but
a) as far as i know, it doesnt work with projecting any app (like i said, i already tried allcast)
b) this won't help when I need to present to a room that only has a VGA connection

This person seems to have had success using a Samsung All-Share Cast Hub and an HDMI to VGA connector:
http://www.amazon.com/review/R2AN3QFGK9Q2F2/ref=cm_srch_res_rtr_alt_1

gbuch said:
This person seems to have had success using a Samsung All-Share Cast Hub and an HDMI to VGA connector:
http://www.amazon.com/review/R2AN3QFGK9Q2F2/ref=cm_srch_res_rtr_alt_1
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Much appreciated, gbuch!! I'll definitely consider it. I'm not opposed to spending money, I just don't want to add more to my travel kit, so i was hoping for a software solution (even one thats costly).
Honestly, I'm absolutely stunned that this is this difficult. For hardware that is so loudly proclaimed as being for business applications, the fact that there isn't a way to get the picture from the tablet's screen to a PC/mac is disappointing. There's mirroring built into the OS(!!), it just is somehow more proprietary (or less widely used) than Apple's AirPlay. That's the most frustrating part: I can see the feature in the settings, I just don't know what I need on the other end to "catch" the signal...again, this should be doable with software on a mac or PC, not just with a Samsung Allcast :crying:

Re: Whiteboard presentation
I know you mentioned MirrorOp, so I apologize if this is not helpful. I teach math at a small college, I have been using the note for over 9 months as a digital whiteboard using MirrorOp Sender for Galaxy and MirrorOp windows receiver. (and SNote as the whiteboard tool). While the delay can be noticeable (up to a second sometimes) on the highest resolution settings, I find as a whiteboard tool, this delay is acceptable. In 9 months, I have had, as hard as it is to believe, no software crashes, dropped connection, etc. In my use of it, once my tablet and laptop are on the same wifi connection, I run MirrorOp Receiver (and maximize it), then run MirrorOp Sender on my note, it finds the receiver very quickly, I click play, and am good to go for the next 50 - 75 minutes lecture. (assuming I remembered to turn off screen saver, etc on my computer) It mirrors everything, have made my iPad wielding colleagues quite jealous, as pretty much the iPad is only good for power point presentations, since it does not have the precise pen input of the Note. Hopefully this was helpful, as I know you said you had tried MirrorOp before.

Chromecast 35$
VGA adapter 15$
Papyrus presentation mode Free.
a) as far as i know, it doesnt work with projecting any app (like i said, i already tried allcast)
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About that, chromecast in its latest software permits you to cast your screen completely with a little lag caused by the high resolution but completely bearable. Try downloading the chromecast app and select the option to cast screen on the left panel. It cuts the notification bar, i guess because of the aspect ratio between my tv and the tablet screen; again, bearable. On top of that, when papyrus detects screen casting, the app permits you to cast only the paper and not the interface like the bottons to select the pen and so.
Some photos of the chromecast:
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b) this won't help when I need to present to a room that only has a VGA connection
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Vga adapters are cheap but you will sometimes need an extra 5v microusb powersource and an extra 3.5 jack cable for sound but i think it is still better than carrying laptop and everything. I would have tried with mine but i need a male hdmi(My adapter) to male adapter(Chromecast) to make it work.
I know you said you didnt want to add hardware you your items but it is not that much, i am just here informing. .
If anything, you could also buy an mhl adapter. With this you would theoretically not have any resolution loss whatsoever (Not very relevant in a normal classroom proyector) and lag would be unnoticable. Downsides, you would still need the vga adapter and you would also have less freedom of movement with the cable directly connected to the proyector. "Upsides", I am not sure, but maybe you would also spend less battery.
Cheers.
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So where are these features?

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Advertised with these features and accessories, and yet now all evidence of them has been scrubbed from Samsung's web-sites. Even the Flash animation on the main Galaxy page has had a photograph of a woman placed over the point where the home dock used to be.
Pros & Cons... These are the cons.
Indeed, I wanted the dock, I wanted the remote, etc.
If they really don't want my money then they shouldn't have made the phone.
Alarm clock works for me.
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Alarm clock works for me.
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Really? because mine has no fade in, or clock home screen. It only comes on as the alarm goes off.
saw that on another forum - that is a little "unusual" - suppose this might be an interesting news tip for engadget to run a blurb on
wow they really changed the flash animation and got rid of the dock!
had to see it myself to believe this..
they also removed the scene where the guy was sitting on the couch using his galaxy like a TV remote
makes you question a lot about what in the world is going on
it is just a Software feature.
my old Treo phones were able to remote control the TV via infrared
but the Windows Mobile couldn't do it, due the missing infra on the device.
SGS i9000 doesn't have an infrared AFAIK, so that ADvertizement might have been created before the final spec of the phone were engraved in stone, probably at one point they might have had infrared as part of the device spec.
HOWEVER!!! if that is a Windows based TV, then they can easily use bluetooth to control Windows Media Center, like many of my logitech remote controls at home
The alarm clock/smart alarm works splendid for me.
And yeah, they've removed the docking from the flash animation, but the remote is there still...
I really wanted that desk dock
@AllGamer: The phone is supposed to use DLNA (over wifi) to communicate with the television.
then the TV will need to be one of the newer types of TV that has that feature build in, else it's not gonna work / be compatible with older TVs
samsung has added some galaxy / vibrant accessories page
and interestingly, that media dock missing from the video is not there, but this one is - appears to be similiar, without speaker, but they're calling it a multi-media dock
not sure how, as it doesn't appear to connect to your computer - they describe you "use your travel / wall charger to charge your phone"
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/...ype=acc_detail&subsubtype=chargers&returnurl=
Looks like the original dock but without the speakers. And even this is a bit mean since they dont provide and additional power connector, you have to use the one that came with the phone.
Not sure how it can be a multi-media dock though.
AllGamer said:
it is just a Software feature.
my old Treo phones were able to remote control the TV via infrared
but the Windows Mobile couldn't do it, due the missing infra on the device.
SGS i9000 doesn't have an infrared AFAIK, so that ADvertizement might have been created before the final spec of the phone were engraved in stone, probably at one point they might have had infrared as part of the device spec.
HOWEVER!!! if that is a Windows based TV, then they can easily use bluetooth to control Windows Media Center, like many of my logitech remote controls at home
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It' just software. The remote doesn't use infrared. It uses a proprietary technology that only works on Samsung TVs sold from 2010 on.
The Alarm clock works.
The dock isn't out, but then again, neither was the Nexus One's when the N1 came out. That one took how long? Couple months?

Is it possible to use any keyboard besides the sammy $100?

My mom is thinking about getting the Gtab but she really wants a keyboard, but $100 is a steep price. Is there any bluetooth keyboard or something that would be usable?
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My mom is thinking about getting the Gtab but she really wants a keyboard, but $100 is a steep price. Is there any bluetooth keyboard or something that would be usable?
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That depends on a few things, but assuming its the same as the Galaxy then IIRC you will not be able to use a random bluetooth keyboard. However, that doesn't mean it is not hackable, and particularly the Cyanogen project gives hull bluetooth HID support. Currently we're still waiting for it on the galaxy, but it is in the works, and it shouldn't take much to get from galaxy to tab.
The problem I see is that without the dock-keyboard, you need something to hold the tab near vertically to really use a keyboard properlly, so just a random bt keyboard wouldn't seem to offer a great amount even if they do get it to work.
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That depends on a few things, but assuming its the same as the Galaxy then IIRC you will not be able to use a random bluetooth keyboard. However, that doesn't mean it is not hackable, and particularly the Cyanogen project gives hull bluetooth HID support. Currently we're still waiting for it on the galaxy, but it is in the works, and it shouldn't take much to get from galaxy to tab.
The problem I see is that without the dock-keyboard, you need something to hold the tab near vertically to really use a keyboard properlly, so just a random bt keyboard wouldn't seem to offer a great amount even if they do get it to work.
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I understand that.. I'm sure there will be some kind of kick stand case, or I could come up with something to lean it against. Is there such a thing a full bt keyboard?
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Yes, they do exist, although they are more on the scale of a laptop keyboard rather than a full desktop one. Some even come with a touch pad.
You're best bet will be to wait a little after release and see if the USB host and BT stuff appear quickly. I imagine there won't be too much of a wait to see what happens, and if thats the only way you'd wanna use it, then its definitely better to be certain.
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Yes, they do exist, although they are more on the scale of a laptop keyboard rather than a full desktop one. Some even come with a touch pad.
You're best bet will be to wait a little after release and see if the USB host and BT stuff appear quickly. I imagine there won't be too much of a wait to see what happens, and if thats the only way you'd wanna use it, then its definitely better to be certain.
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Alright, thank you for the info.
Sent from Vibrant
I use the Logitech diNovo Edge, keyboard and mouse works perfect.
Yes, you can.
Here is a guy using an Apple wireless keyboard (bluetooth enabled).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYFexm_pFn4
Well this is awesome *does a little dance*.
For my galaxy tab, I'm using my old Think Outside Slim Bluetooth keyboard. To connect it, I downloaded the Bluekeyboard JP from the Market. However now, I find the Swype absolutely amazing so I use this now most of the time. Just a little practice and Swype is very fast to use.
I use my old iGO bluetooth keyboard that I got a few years back. It synced easily, the Tab prompted me to type in a five digit number on the BT keyboard and hit enter, that's it, so I imagine ANY bluetooth keyboard will sync up in the same exact manner.
My keyboard:
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I use my old iGO bluetooth keyboard that I got a few years back. It synced easily, the Tab prompted me to type in a five digit number on the BT keyboard and hit enter, that's it, so I imagine ANY bluetooth keyboard will sync up in the same exact manner.
My keyboard:
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I use the apple keyboard without any problem. BTW if you are rooted you can assign many of shortcuts that comes with the Samsung dock keyboard also to a bluetooth keyboard.
Just move all the files out of the /system/usr/keylayout folder *except* for the qwerty.kl file. Now open the qwerty.kl file and assign commands from the p1-keyboard.kl to keycombinations like shift left arrow etc. (In the qwerty.kl file you can also assign alternative commands to the tab buttons)
I plan to make an app for this later.
EDIT: btw be careful with this. If you assign commands that can't be recognized none of your keys will work and you will have to push the keylayout files with adb (under su r/w permission) or reflash your firmware.
Today i tried to pair my Tab with this keyboard, workes without problems :
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/keyboards/keyboard/devices/3616
Even the mouse part works, the only real problem is making gestures .

Is it possible to duplicate/expand the display on Android Head Unit ?

Hello, I wanted to know if it is possible to duplicate/expand the display on Android HU:
(I saw the screen with LCD Screen on head support, but I don't want only the media app to be expandable)
In my car I have a GPS Display and I wanted to change it for an LCD screen where I can expand the HU.
(Screen for those who want to see: http :// www .forum-auto.com/uploads/200602/kevin_88_1140480500_image2.jpg)
Thanks you !
So you basically want to remove the built in navigation system on your car as and put in a "second monitor" for the Android head unit? In terms of an easy plug-and-play solution, this is not possible. I don't believe it's possible at all even with a lot of hardware modification.
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So you basically want to remove the built in navigation system on your car as and put in a "second monitor" for the Android head unit? In terms of an easy plug-and-play solution, this is not possible. I don't believe it's possible at all even with a lot of hardware modification.
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Forget the modification of my car:
I just need to know if the Head Unit can expand there screen to a second display (with HDMI or VIDEO out ?)
Wasn't talking about hardware modification of your car. Was talking about the motherboard of the unit. These units don't have HDMI out, and I would assume the RCA video out is only for DVD input, but don't quote me on that, I've never tried it. I can try the video out on my unit tomorrow and check if it sends out a duplicated screen.
The Newsmy units, for all their other faults, do support HDMI out (at least the NU series - can't remember if the NR series does). It will duplicate the android generated side of images (no AUX-in, or Reverse-cam, etc).
However, putting the same image in two places on your dash seems a little useless to me. What you really want is dual monitor support. Android in general doesn't do this very well. I think you can make this happen, but you will most likely be doing some type of completely DIY project where you have complete control of the hardware & software.
Thanks you for the help !
@Teslamonger Yes it would be great !
@Zaphod-Beeblebrox Hmm... Really interresting... If you have some advice i'm listening. For the duplicated screen it's because the Head Unit is in a very bad area to look at when driving, getting the info on the replaced GPS screen would be a huge improvement. (You can see where the Autoradio is placed on my screen)
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Someone know how this thing work?
I think you are going to get your hands dirty to some degree no matter how you approach this based on those images... However, you might want to start with something like this
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/For...2662478354.html?spm=2114.40010308.4.17.PTmL5c
It already has a separated "head unit" and display. Could probably be modified to fit your existing screen.
Still lots of due diligence to work out (like what info can you keep/lose from the display? can you work this as a touch screen? Can you do enough with SWC and the unit buttons to avoid touch. Can you do voice control?
Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
The Newsmy units, for all their other faults, do support HDMI out (at least the NU series - can't remember if the NR series does). It will duplicate the android generated side of images (no AUX-in, or Reverse-cam, etc).
However, putting the same image in two places on your dash seems a little useless to me. What you really want is dual monitor support. Android in general doesn't do this very well. I think you can make this happen, but you will most likely be doing some type of completely DIY project where you have complete control of the hardware & software.
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Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
I think you are going to get your hands dirty to some degree no matter how you approach this based on those images... However, you might want to start with something like this
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/For...2662478354.html?spm=2114.40010308.4.17.PTmL5c
It already has a separated "head unit" and display. Could probably be modified to fit your existing screen.
Still lots of due diligence to work out (like what info can you keep/lose from the display? can you work this as a touch screen? Can you do enough with SWC and the unit buttons to avoid touch. Can you do voice control?
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This is a good starting point but it's not adapted for my car (Laguna II), I would have to change it to a 2din and the hardware seem to be "old".
I don't need to control it from the elder GPS screen, it's just because it's more adapted to see the information like Waze during driving, I can use the Android Head Unit or voice control to use it
Many thanks for your help !
UnReal' said:
Thanks you for the help !
@Teslamonger Yes it would be great !
@Zaphod-Beeblebrox Hmm... Really interresting... If you have some advice i'm listening. For the duplicated screen it's because the Head Unit is in a very bad area to look at when driving, getting the info on the replaced GPS screen would be a huge improvement. (You can see where the Autoradio is placed on my screen)
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Someone know how this thing work?
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Just based off that image, it kind of confirmed my suspicions. It looks like the AV out only moves videos to the external display. I was going to pull my unit out of my dash and try this to double check, but it's been raining all day... I'm still pretty curious about it so when I get a chance I'll try it.
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Just based off that image, it kind of confirmed my suspicions. It looks like the AV out only moves videos to the external display. I was going to pull my unit out of my dash and try this to double check, but it's been raining all day... I'm still pretty curious about it so when I get a chance I'll try it.
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No way to bypass that?
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No way to bypass that?
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If it only duplicates Youtube and DVD inputs to the display, then it would require some fancy magic to get it working the way you want it to be, especially since the code on these android head units aren't open source as far as I know.
Teslamonger said:
If it only duplicates Youtube and DVD inputs to the display, then it would require some fancy magic to get it working the way you want it to be, especially since the code on these android head units aren't open source as far as I know.
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This is very sad ... Any idea to possibly making work a dual screen?

[NOMone VR Browser] Enables you to surf the normal web while wearing your VR glasses!

Hello everyone ,
I want to share with you our new android VR browser :NOMone VR Browser
It is a side-by-side android browser that enables you to surf the normal internet pages/content while wearing vr glasses. You can use it also for online streaming, reading manga, watching your favorite videos as if your in a cinema! or even working anywhere without laptop/desktop (just your mobile, keyboard and mouse!).
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For devices with Gyro sensor, you don't even need the keyboard and mouse. Just slightly move your head( like gaze based apps), put on your earphones and use its button for clicking/ dragging.
The browser is still undergoing heavy development (like making compatible VR keyboard in the next release isA, theater mode for 360 videos and other cools features ), but it's perfectly usable now. let me sum up the main current features:
-- Gyroscope based pointer. Move your head and use your earphones/handsfree/controller media button to click. You can perform continuous scrolling by dragging to the top/bottom of the screen. You can also use other configurations (like a USB keyboard/mouse using OTG cable, or a wireless keyboard and mouse combo, or bluetooth keyboard/mouse).
--From the options menu, use the calibration settings to get the ideal configuration for your cardboard or VR glasses for optimum VR/3D experience.
--Bookmarks. Before putting your phone into the cardboard, open all the links you need and add them to bookmarks. This way you won't have to remove it to type url. Do this until the VR keyboard is ready (in next release if Allah wills).
-- If you have a small screen, try decreasing the browser scale (in calibration settings) to show more content in the same area.
--A basic ad pop up blocking is in place to give you less hassle while browsing.
-- If you have a bluetooth VR controller, use the mouse mode (press "Fn + D"). You can drag continuously by holding left click down and using the analogue stick.
-- Sign up for a Cloud 9 IDE account. Happy coding
--Install X11VNC and connect to your remote machine using NOVNC.
-- Install a local server, like Palapa Web-server and install your tools. Now, control everything from the browser
Known Issues:
-- The normal soft-keyboard is not fit for VR browsing.
-- Can't use the gyroscope cursor to type.
Coming up next:
-- VR keyboard.
-- Theater mode (for 360 degree immersion and more video formats support).
-- Save/Load tabs from last times.
-- Most frequently visited launch screen.
-- Lens correction.
-- Mixed reality mode (have the browser in front of you, but see the camera feed when looking to the sides).
We think the VR Browser is a great idea, but we need you support and feedback to improve it and make everyone's experience a great one. Kindly try the application and tell us what you think.
Thanks a lot for your time and effort in advance
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DeX missing from Galaxy s8

Hi
I seem to remember my s8 having the ability to enter DeX mode few years ago, now that I actually need it and got a dongle for it doesn't work.
When connecting to a Windows 10 with DeX application It only offers file transfer and charging and other standard Android USB connection options (when connecting an s20 to the same PC DeX fires up immediately)
When connecting to a USB-C dongle it recognizes the USB memory stick and Bluetooth mouse connected to it but won't output video to HDMI (again, when connecting s20 to the same setup, all the connected devices are recognized AND Dex is activated and video signal sent to display through HDMI)
And even the DeX/Screen Mirror options from the settings menu are gone (settings>connections>more connections).
Has this something to do with Samsung ending support for s8?
I just did a hard reset to factory settings and still nothing.
Stock -never rooted:
SM-G950F/DS
Exynos 8895
One UI 1.0
Android 9
Kernel v 4.4.111-21427293
CSC - OXM (SEB, XSG)
Hi Mihkel.ee I have the same problem with my Galaxy S8+ ... did you find a solution?
Apparently this menu should be there (which it isn't).
Settings > Samsung DeX > About Samsung DeX
There don't appear to be any HDMI settings either.
I have the latest software updates as at 26-Mar-2022. (One UI V1.0, Android 9).
Thanks in advance.
-Antony.
Hi! I also had the same issue with the used samsung s8 i bought a month ago.
Sadly i haven't been able to find a solution.
But if you go to settings->apps->show system apps and scroll down to samsung, you can find the samsung dex and samsung dex home system app.
The system is there, so i think the dex feature is not missing, just got restricted.
Please help if anyone find a solution.
-Sincerly, MJI
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Hi! I also had the same issue with the used samsung s8 i bought a month ago.
Sadly i haven't been able to find a solution.
But if you go to settings->apps->show system apps and scroll down to samsung, you can find the samsung dex and samsung dex home system app.
The system is there, so i think the dex feature is not missing, just got restricted.
Please help if anyone find a solution.
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I'm bumping this thread as I'm facing the same exactly issue and not sure if there's solution.
Is there a way to either mirror image to the TV with HDMI or enable DeX without an original Dex Station?
impatrickQQ said:
I'm bumping this thread as I'm facing the same exactly issue and not sure if there's solution.
Is there a way to either mirror image to the TV with HDMI or enable DeX without an original Dex Station?
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Hi, haven't found a solution yet. So, i try with another samsung s8+ i bought for $20 for the sake of experiment. When i asked the seller, he confirmed that the dex work but when i received it, it can't go into dex mode but can still screen mirroring via hdmi even though there's a dex option and hdmi setting(pic with green circle). After viewing the system apps as i mentioned in my previous post, it had the samsung dex home but missing the samsung dex system app. So i try reseting the settings (not factory reset) and the hdmi setting is now missing (pic WITHOUT green circle). Although the hdmi setting is missing i can still use the screen mirroring and i can still use the phone normally. Even though my initial intention to buy s8 is to use it as a replacement for my laptop and to do my college assignments, i just use it to play game with emulator instead because i can't use apps like Microsoft word without the on-screen keyboard popping up.
At this point i am considering giving up as i cant waste anymore time and money for this phone
My advise is don't try to reset anything before someone found the solution.
Adios~
MJIconnor said:
Hi, haven't found a solution yet. So, i try with another samsung s8+ i bought for $20 for the sake of experiment. When i asked the seller, he confirmed that the dex work but when i received it, it can't go into dex mode but can still screen mirroring via hdmi even though there's a dex option and hdmi setting(pic with green circle). After viewing the system apps as i mentioned in my previous post, it had the samsung dex home but missing the samsung dex system app. So i try reseting the settings (not factory reset) and the hdmi setting is now missing (pic WITHOUT green circle). Although the hdmi setting is missing i can still use the screen mirroring and i can still use the phone normally. Even though my initial intention to buy s8 is to use it as a replacement for my laptop and to do my college assignments, i just use it to play game with emulator instead because i can't use apps like Microsoft word without the on-screen keyboard popping up.
At this point i am considering giving up as i cant waste anymore time and money for this phone
My advise is don't try to reset anything before someone found the solution.
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Nevermind about using it to play game. There's actually a setting for the on-screen keyboard to not turn on if physical keyboard is attached. So i might actually use it to do college assignments

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