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A true smart watch for under $100

The Chinese wholesalers have been selling true smart watches for under $100 for awhile now.
Features?
Cell phone(GSM only)
Touch screen
MP3 player
Micro SD slot
Stereo Bluetooth
Camera/Vid cam
TV(analog)
Games
Texting
Apps
Ect.,Ect.
Where to find one??
I have to have 10 post's to tell you.
So pm me or I'll edit this after my ten posts.
Their customer service is fair,and if express shipped.The product is recieved promptly.
So far of the stuff I've purchased,the quality of the products has been good to excellent,and the prices astoundingly low.
Matt

mwayer02 said:
The Chinese wholesalers have been selling true smart watches for under $100 for awhile now.
Features?
Cell phone(GSM only)
Touch screen
MP3 player
Micro SD slot
Stereo Bluetooth
Camera/Vid cam
TV(analog)
Games
Texting
Apps
Ect.,Ect.
Where to find one??
I have to have 10 post's to tell you.
So pm me or I'll edit this after my ten posts.
Their customer service is fair,and if express shipped.The product is recieved promptly.
So far of the stuff I've purchased,the quality of the products has been good to excellent,and the prices astoundingly low.
Matt
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Wouldn't trust the quality and how silly will you look talking to your watch xD
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SammiSaysHello said:
Wouldn't trust the quality and how silly will you look talking to your watch xD
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Assuming you're talking about the Z1 (Rock) watch, there's a comparison for that right here.

A "true" smart watch runs on a smart phone platform. 99% of those chinese phone watches run feature phone platforms, in otherwords, they're dumbphones. The one and only chinese phone watch that uses a smart platform (Android) is the Z1. It's ok, but crap screen, slow processor, and huge physical size are major downsides. Also, it's closer to $250, definitely not under $100 (or I'd have one right now just for ****s and giggles, lol)

speedyink said:
A "true" smart watch runs on a smart phone platform. 99% of those chinese phone watches run feature phone platforms, in otherwords, they're dumbphones. The one and only chinese phone watch that uses a smart platform (Android) is the Z1. It's ok, but crap screen, slow processor, and huge physical size are major downsides. Also, it's closer to $250, definitely not under $100 (or I'd have one right now just for ****s and giggles, lol)
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I would too! I'm thinking about investing in one once the price drops, or if I could just find one for cheap somewhere. I'd need to talk the wife into it first, though lol.

ClearD said:
I would too! I'm thinking about investing in one once the price drops, or if I could just find one for cheap somewhere. I'd need to talk the wife into it first, though lol.
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If I found one for cheap, like $100 or less, I'd pull the trigger on one. Just to play around with it. In fact I'd buy an I'm Watch too if I found one for $150 or less, again, just to play. Of course I'd end up going back to the motactv, because I mean come one, it's underclocked 1ghz arm v7 processor just slays the other two.

Check ahappydealdotcom.
Select cell phone,then the sub section"phone watch".
They are not smart for a phone,but they are smart for a watch.
Matt

mwayer02 said:
Check ahappydealdotcom.
Select cell phone,then the sub section"phone watch".
They are not smart for a phone,but they are smart for a watch.
Matt
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If it does what a smart phone does, then it's a smart watch.
If it does what a dumb phone does, then it's a dumb watch.
Not to say they suck or aren't neat, they're just not what people would consider a "smart watch"

I used one of these watches in the past and it was pure junk. Didn't think I'd go for another 'smart watch' but I decided to try out the Pebble watch. Of course the difference being the Pebble only connected to my main phone, which I preferred. The Pebble is just good enough to view notifications. I chose the Note 2's large screen for a reason... so I wouldn't have to dial on a small screen.

Would love to have a pebble watch
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I almost bought a MotoACTV... but got a 6th gen nano and watch strap because fashion.
Anyway, I've seen 10s of Chinese/Singaporean watches and most are BREW or JAVA. Smart enough for some. My current favorite is the sWaP Nova because you can wear it as a necklace.

Awesome
mwayer02 said:
The Chinese wholesalers have been selling true smart watches for under $100 for awhile now.
Features?
Cell phone(GSM only)
Touch screen
MP3 player
Micro SD slot
Stereo Bluetooth
Camera/Vid cam
TV(analog)
Games
Texting
Apps
Ect.,Ect.
Where to find one??
I have to have 10 post's to tell you.
So pm me or I'll edit this after my ten posts.
Their customer service is fair,and if express shipped.The product is recieved promptly.
So far of the stuff I've purchased,the quality of the products has been good to excellent,and the prices astoundingly low.
Matt
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Awesome!

Can you edit the links?i would like to see these watches.
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how are the quality of the watches.

milk02 said:
how are the quality of the watches.
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Read some reviews on Amazon...not the greatest generally

Can you post any link for that watches because I really want to buy one and I can't find them..
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Those are really just feature phones, trimmed down to watch-size with small screen and a microscopic keypad (not to mention, a 250 mAh battery).
It's not very bad actually; but it is better to spend some cash on a real feature phone.
Day walker, night stalker

Where can I find one of these?i wwnt to know..give me a link..
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Vaimaster said:
Where can I find one of these?i wwnt to know..give me a link..
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Tried posting this yesterday but XDA went down in between me browsing to this post, and pressing reply. Needless to say I said fack it and did other things instead.
But now I'm back browsing the net, so here you are.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938811&pf_rd_i=507846
http://www.amazon.com/E4worlds-Unlocked-Mobile-Hidden-Bluetooth/dp/B0090HVL2U/ref=pd_sim_cps_1

They'd be good and cheap to try before spending any decent money on one.
See if you like being Mr Bond

Even more smartwatches to add to the confusion

Here is a list of smartwatches from SHENZHEN HOP INDUSTRIALCO.,LTD. It contains four Android based smartwatches (EC308, EC309, EC408 and EC409).
Google Docs does not format correctly so download for proper viewing.
I will let you know now that Orsto were trying to pass off the Dynamic (EC309) and Bliss (EC316) models as their own on a crowdfunding site. They are still trying to pass off the Bliss (EC316) as an Orsto product.
*I am not trying to sell any of these devices. This is the only full catalog I have for Hopu devices and posted it for reference purposes only.

Thats the one thing I don't like about crowd funding sites; too easy for some scammer to pass off these wholesale products as their own.
Here is the "A.I Smartwatch," aka the Ec308/309. Whats funny is their marketing images don't even consistently show the same watch

Is it just me, or don't these things look pretty hideous?
Ripping off windows mobile start screens, with a generous dose of kitsch added? The watch faces look particularly scary. I guess there isn't going to be an Omate style stretch goal face off, lol.
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Lokifish Marz said:
I will let you know now that Orsto were trying to pass off the Dynamic (EC309) and Bliss (EC316) models as their own on a crowdfunding site. They are still trying to pass off the Bliss (EC316) as an Orsto product.
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I don't even see Orsto X1 on IGG anymore. Was it even fully or partially funded?

BBowermaster said:
Thats the one thing I don't like about crowd funding sites; too easy for some scammer to pass off these wholesale products as their own.
Here is the "A.I Smartwatch," aka the Ec308/309. Whats funny is their marketing images don't even consistently show the same watch
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I publicly posted on their FB page that it is an EC308/309. Also posted that it doesn't come with official Play Store support as the "inventor" claims.
UPDATE- AI Watch just deleted my comment and locked their FB post. Truth hurts
vagelis said:
Is it just me, or don't these things look pretty hideous?
Ripping off windows mobile start screens, with a generous dose of kitsch added? The watch faces look particularly scary. I guess there isn't going to be an Omate style stretch goal face off, lol.
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It's a WP launcher.
vectron said:
I don't even see Orsto X1 on IGG anymore. Was it even fully or partially funded?
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They got pulled from IGG. That's why Orsto is over on another crowdfunding site claiming another smartwatch as theirs.

Lokifish Marz said:
...They got pulled from IGG. That's why Orsto is over on another crowdfunding site claiming another smartwatch as theirs.
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Since they weren't on KS or IGG, which site are they on? But either way, what a scam! Hopefully by now consumers are more educated about smartwatches and these crooks will never get fully funded. Only those with true innovation get word of mouth which drives success of crowdfunding.
Thanks for that pdf info. For sure EC308/309 and EC408/409 looks interesting. What I noticed is their x09 versions add an option for tri-band WCDMA. I tried googling the subject and majority of answers point to not compatible with Verizon. Most likely its a same chipset as used by Omate. Kind of sad that I'm stuck with Verizon...
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BBowermaster said:
Thats the one thing I don't like about crowd funding sites; too easy for some scammer to pass off these wholesale products as their own.
Here is the "A.I Smartwatch," aka the Ec308/309. Whats funny is their marketing images don't even consistently show the same watch
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Btw, the guy behind AI Swartwatch campaign is starting to spam forums with "hey, look at this cool new smartphone". Already been spotted on AndroidForums where his post got deleted and he was banned. I would not be surprised if he is going to show up on XDA lol!!!

Looks like he some how got a story on Engaget. Guessing one or two of you guys are on there. http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/29/ai-android-smartwatch-indiegogo/ He's trying to claim he is using the EC309 as a shell/prototype.

I already bought this smartwatch here http://www.watchmobilephone.com/vapirius_ax2.htm as a Vapirius AX2. It's not bad but it is missing a menu button pretty badly. There is some kind of soft menu button in the notification area but it is a gimmick...
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BBowermaster said:
He's trying to claim he is using the EC309 as a shell/prototype.
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Not according to my conversation with him. "the hardware are not close to the Ec309"
He also seems to be of the opinion that a custom ROM makes it a completely different device.
To add even more to the mix regarding the A.I. Watch, almost all the photos of models wearing it are shopped. http://imgur.com/a/P5aIE

Lokifish Marz said:
http://imgur.com/a/P5aIE
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lol, thanks for the morning laugh.

I'm just here to say I just backed a new smartwatched called 'AI'... Haha just kidding, I actually pre-ordered the Neptune Pine.
Seriously though, with all the scamming surrounding smartwatches. I'm actually glad I held back from backing Omate. Sad but true. I haven't seen them immerse the omate in water. I haven't even seen them demonstrate "the running of various apps" to determine whether their claim that 90% of the play store actually worked with their device. I have the motoactv for reference, but even this device has flaws running certain apps, especially bluetooth related ones. In certain apps you can't see everything because of screen size, others simply wont run and force closes etc etc. Needless to say, i still love my motoactv.
Omate has shown a working prototype and has even done live interviews (cnbc), but I remain skeptical. Where is the hole for the microphone and speaker located? How well can the other person hear you? For reference, I know Omate did a demo of a phone call, but within the demo you could actually hear the caller nearby if you listen closely. I have faith in omate, but i cant say i have strong faith. I won't be surprised if the product releases later than expected. And if it doesn't release at all, I won't be surprised, but i hope that it actually gets released so i could get my grubby hands on this awesome concept of a product.

@savaged: Wait, with all the info and discussions about Omate vs Neptune Pine, you suggesting Omate is scamming us and thus you decided to fund Pine?!? Honestly, this is the first one I heard so far on XDA or anywhere else... Unless you pulling our legs, Good luck!

vectron said:
@savaged: Wait, with all the info and discussions about Omate vs Neptune Pine, you suggesting Omate is scamming us and thus you decided to fund Pine?!? Honestly, this is the first one I heard so far on XDA or anywhere else... Unless you pulling our legs, Good luck!
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lol no, I'm not funding Neptune Pine, it was a joke. After observing the Omate discussions, I realize that Neptune Pine is highly likely to be vaporware. And well, from the looks of it, Omate isn't scamming anyone. I'm just a bit disappointed with them. They aren't showing off their goods properly. It leaves a lot of room for skepticism. Just like everyone else, I'm pretty anxious to see it.

Lokifish Marz said:
Not according to my conversation with him. "the hardware are not close to the Ec309"
He also seems to be of the opinion that a custom ROM makes it a completely different device.
To add even more to the mix regarding the A.I. Watch, almost all the photos of models wearing it are shopped. http://imgur.com/a/P5aIE
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that link sends me to a empty gallery :S I'm a little worried as I pre ordered the base model off their campain then realised it is a watch i'd seen before on watchmobile the ax2 >.< so I dont know what to do now.

NachTSS said:
that link sends me to a empty gallery :S I'm a little worried as I pre ordered the base model off their campain then realised it is a watch i'd seen before on watchmobile the ax2 >.< so I dont know what to do now.
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Did you preorder via the website or pledge on Indiegogo? If you pledged on Indiegogo you can always cancel your pledge. As far as the images, here is a direct link to one of the original images.

Lokifish Marz said:
Did you preorder via the website or pledge on Indiegogo? If you pledged on Indiegogo you can always cancel your pledge. As far as the images, here is a direct link to one of the original images.
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Wow that is hilarious! Didn't see that original picture before!

eozdalga said:
Wow that is hilarious! Didn't see that original picture before!
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Almost all his stills on the main campaign page are shopped. :laugh:

Lokifish Marz said:
Did you preorder via the website or pledge on Indiegogo? If you pledged on Indiegogo you can always cancel your pledge. As far as the images, here is a direct link to one of the original images.
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I pre ordered on indiegogo I didnt know they have a site? Also how would I get a refund on indiegogo? it charged my card as soon as I pre ordered.
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I did a hands-on (in german) of the EC308 or Vapirius AX2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzbaRG8wslM&feature=c4-overview&list=UUjLvP7zL2M8-9AtRtQ4gUCw
If fact, a good SmartWatch. BUT the inpout is horrible. Using Fleksy-Keyboard is better, but does not work if you rae using german language
Will do a longer review soon.

I'd like to ask, does anyone have any info about the Hopu EC408/EC409 models? Do they really ship (or - from where - I only found something on alibaba.com with not much info to it -> anyone have any experience there?). I'm quite surprised that there is no review/no youtube demonstration of them etc. I've been looking into 'smart watch phones' for quite some time and these look the best for me - especially I like the fact that it can be detached from the strap (or so it seems from images) - unlike devices like O. Truesmart / Callisto 100... which have antennas in their straps.
So, pls, does anyone know something more to these 'watches'? (or do you know about sth. similar to them?)
(Maybe, is there some list of watches like this? I wrote down a few for my future reference:
with 2G/3G functionality:
omate truesmart
Iconbit Callisto 100
xTouch Wave
burg 17
zgpax S5
Hopu EC409
sWaP (Hopu?) EC308/EC309
A.I. Watch
Exetech XS-3
Pearl Simvalley AW-414/AW-420/AW-421
without sim slot:
galaxy gear
motorola motoactv
sony smartwatch 2
smartQ Z Watch
I'm watch
geak watch
uplay z3

My review of the Z3+!

Hey guys here's my review of the Z3+, hope you enjoy it!
https://youtu.be/b3qGNR3skOU

should i buy this phone?

cayanbicakci said:
should i buy this phone?
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Depends on what phone you are coming from. If you have had an Z2 or later or any other high-end phone from last year I would think that its 50-50 but anything older or a midrange then this is definitely a good phone to buy instead.

Personally I'd say yes. I've owned am s6,LG g4 etc but this is, without a doubt, my favourite phone out of the lot!

Zuk Z2 Pro

This sounds awesome, they're going all out with this, cant wait to see some hands-on/reviews. Hard to believe, 6GB RAM devices are already starting to surface, when 4GB is still really just begun to appear in the big flagships.
http://www.gizchina.com/2016/04/21/zuk-launch-zuk-z2-pro-details/

Looks like a killer to me.. If it has wireless charging and can put AOSP on it.. am sold

ombadboy said:
Looks like a killer to me.. If it has wireless charging and can put AOSP on it.. am sold
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It doesn't have nfc, but still, it's a really impressive device. 5.5" screen and 3500mah battery and it would be my perfect phone!

I'm guessing there will be alot of development on here in terms of custom roms & kernels for this new bad boy ?

Official Site

It has good hardware at a very convincing price....I am definitely going for it...rest on our awesome xda developers who will anyways develop custom roms for the phone(hopefully it doesnot have bootloader unlocking restrictions like we have in mi 5)...my next phone for sure....
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If it has development i will buy it I think.

Tiz92 said:
If it has development i will buy it I think.
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Again this will depend on whether our developers decide to buy this or not. It is without doubt the best specced phone for the price!!!

Just seen this device in an article earlier as well, this is the LITE version!!!?? It seems to be listed on oppomart for pre-order and is running a stock like rom, although the pictures may be just mockups and so I wouldnt rely on them. Theres some serious hardware on offer for a fraction of the money of the big brands. Obviously it probably wont have the same amount of development as the ZUK, but looks to be an impressive device nonetheless.
Lite:
http://www.gizchina.com/2016/04/22/vernee-apollo-lite-will-3180-mah-battery-fast-charge-qc-3-0-support/
Heres the full version:
http://www.coolicool.com/vernee-apollo-helio-x20-6gb-ram-128gb-rom-mtk6797-deca-core-55-inch-2k-screen-android-60-4g-lte-sm-g-43320

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Just seen this device in an article earlier as well, this is the LITE version!!!?? It seems to be listed on oppomart for pre-order and is running a stock like rom, although the pictures may be just mockups and so I wouldnt rely on them. Theres some serious hardware on offer for a fraction of the money of the big brands. Obviously it probably wont have the same amount of development as the ZUK, but looks to be an impressive device nonetheless.
Lite:
http://www.gizchina.com/2016/04/22/vernee-apollo-lite-will-3180-mah-battery-fast-charge-qc-3-0-support/
Heres the full version:
http://www.coolicool.com/vernee-apollo-helio-x20-6gb-ram-128gb-rom-mtk6797-deca-core-55-inch-2k-screen-android-60-4g-lte-sm-g-43320
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Those aren't the phone. Those are Vernee branded.
You want the Lenovo ZUK Z2 Pro.

white43 said:
Those aren't the phone. Those are Vernee branded.
You want the Lenovo ZUK Z2 Pro.
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Yes sorry, I know its a different phone, meant to say its off-topic (while still on the topic of chinese brand devices!).
They are both packing 6GB of RAM as well.

Ah with you buddy! That's a good phone as well!! My only reservation on that one is the processor. Lack of Snapdragon means lack of mods, or so I'm led to believe.

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Ah with you buddy! That's a good phone as well!! My only reservation on that one is the processor. Lack of Snapdragon means lack of mods, or so I'm led to believe.
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Yes, definitely prefer the Snapdragon myself, but I could be swayed by with the right price!

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Yes, definitely prefer the Snapdragon myself, but I could be swayed by with the right price!
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Steer clear of anything MTK.

ZUK Z2 Pro Review
http://www.igeekphone.com/zuk-z2-pro-smartphone-design-hardware-camera-batteryos-review/

6+128+820 my love

Unboxing by gizchina, i'm expecting full review soon.
http://www.gizchina.com/2016/06/03/zuk-z2-pro-hands-on-and-unboxing/

Anyone knows the material of the lens on the backside?
I really don't hope a plastic type at least scratch resistant mineral glass. of course sapphire would be best but i doubt it.
And wondering durability. Saw a test of the Xiaomi Mi5. flimsy as f#*k.
Waiting for some more camera test for Z2 and Z2 pro. I am not convinced yet. Saw some pics and they looked a bit blurry..

Hello ZUK 2 PRO Fans..
Yes, I just got my ZUK 2 Pro 128GB version phone today.. This device was purchased from ZUK's official website in China.
It doesn't have google play store and services; how do I install all that safely? It has all the typical Chinese apps and it does not have multiple languages other than Chinese & English...
Please HELP!
Sincerely.. Gabriel.Macht

Smart watch under 200$

Guys ,
Would appreciate if you can advise me a smart watch under 200$ USDs.
Good battery life , decent round display, sporty look and connectivity with android are my priorities.
Dont mind trying no names Chinese watches as well if someone can confirm 1st hand experience reg few .

Why to risk with Chinese devices when you have so high budget?
Aim for the best: a used Moto 360 2nd gen
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Why to risk with Chinese devices when you have so high budget?
Aim for the best: a used Moto 360 2nd gen
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But I am going through and realise that they have more features and much cheapers.
Was just looking a No 1 G3 , like it so far and its just bloody 60$. Are there any others like G3 considered better than G3 ?

namz said:
But I am going through and realise that they have more features and much cheapers.
Was just looking a No 1 G3 , like it so far and its just bloody 60$. Are there any others like G3 considered better than G3 ?
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Xaxaxa.
Ok I see that you are totally new to the smartwatches.
There is no point to discuss about 200$, moto360 and then bring into discussion a Chinese device of 60$. Irrelevant.
So, first do your homework, understand what are the differences and then be more specific about what you want.
Unleashed by my M1 NOTE

RASTAVIPER said:
Xaxaxa.
Ok I see that you are totally new to the smartwatches.
There is no point to discuss about 200$, moto360 and then bring into discussion a Chinese device of 60$. Irrelevant.
So, first do your homework, understand what are the differences and then be more specific about what you want.
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Well thats correct.
I am not a watch person , So wont be wearing it all the time . So less spend is better for me.