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[Q] One last attempt before I abandon this thing

I bought an i337 right before the MF3 release. Luckily, I was able to prevent the OTA, unlocked it, rooted it and found a custom ROM that was smooth, bug free and gave me no trouble with the modem, BT, WiFi, etc. Heaven.
3 weeks later I reached in my pocket and it was cracked. Wouldn't even boot, no download mode, no ADB, nothing. DOA.
I had insurance, so after the hefty deductible I had a replacement... with MF3. Ugh. Fine. Rooted, Wanman, I did a lot of reading here. I considered SafeStrap, but honestly, I had spent so much time on it... I was making do.
Well, something is up with this device. I have never been able to get the MK2 OTA. After a while, pressing the update button to check didn't do anything at all. No response. Fine. I'll live with this. How bad could it be? I mean, the popups are anoying, The Amber Alert went off 6 times in 30 minutes, I hate the TouchWize BS, but it works, right?
Lately, reboots. And problems with Apps that no one else has. Is it because I am rooted? I didn't do anything with this- just some Tasker stuff and the Xposed. Then my BT starts to cut out all the time. Car stereo randomly drops BT. Samsung media player plays random files from wherever it finds them, especially the Samsung theme song and some strange subset of spotify files. But now it's playing and there's no PLAYER. I can't turn it off. And it's playing during phone calls, and DOUBLE PLAYING dhen I am listening to podcasts. Some apps lock up. Power button presses don't work. Enough.
I tried unrooting. I tried a factory reset. Enough Let's do Safestrap...
****. I have a 16GB version. Not a lot room for that. I don't want to waste any more time...
Fine Factory Wipe. STILL CAN'T UPDATE OTA to MK2?! Something's up. Flash the MF3 Files. Still broken. This thing is a mess.
So the question is... what do I do?
1) Cut my losses. I have a Nexus 5 in my hand. I like it. I could load ROMs. can't swap the battery, and there's no SD card. Dammit. The battery could be a killer for me. I don't want to spend money, but I am done having to reboot in the middle of a business call because it's playing a podcast over the connection.
2) Take it back and demand a new one. With all this AT&T bull**** and locked bootloader. Is this one just a bum phone, or do any of you have these issues?
3) Safestrap + a safestrap ROM. Any good suggestions? Looking for Stable , good BT support and the ability to turn off annoying **** that will wake my wife and kids up at night.
Sorry to post here with what's probably stuff that's been answered- but I just don't have the will to spend any more time or money on this. $400 for the phone + insurance replacement, extra batteries, case, etc. I hate this ****ing thing so much- and even more because I had the previous one so perfect.
Thanks in advance.

And after all that, still stuck on 4.2.2, the root exploit is failing on my phone (it worked before, but not this time). There's only one or two searches coming up with anyone else having this problem, so I don't expect it to work. So no SafeStrap.
Check Please.
Hopefully that N5 battery can last.

ultralame said:
And after all that, still stuck on 4.2.2, the root exploit is failing on my phone (it worked before, but not this time). There's only one or two searches coming up with anyone else having this problem, so I don't expect it to work. So no SafeStrap.
Check Please.
Hopefully that N5 battery can last.
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Flash MK2 with Odin: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2621279
Root here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
Don't update to KitKat, NB1 build hasn't been rooted yet

hotsauce32 said:
Flash MK2 with Odin: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2621279
Root here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
Don't update to KitKat, NB1 build hasn't been rooted yet
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I appreciate this. I'll give it one more shot.

ultralame said:
I appreciate this. I'll give it one more shot.
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No problem, just remember to back up any apps and whatnot; you're flashing a stock image that will wipe all internal data

hotsauce32 said:
No problem, just remember to back up any apps and whatnot; you're flashing a stock image that will wipe all internal data
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Thanks for the warning. At the moment, it's about as stock as it can be though. Nothing to lose!

Hopefully getting a fresh install gets rid of those issues you were having, but if they persist, you probably got a bad replacement (likely a refurb).

Sounds like your phone needs a complete reset via Odin including the PIT file so you can repartition the entire device...
Get to MK2 Odin files
Get a 16 GB Galaxy S4 PIT file
Open Odin, assign the files to their correct spots...
Turn phone on in Download Mode, connect USB
Proceed to flash, and hope for the best...
If your successful with that I would use Saferoot to obtain root as soon as possible to avoid receiving the new NB1 (Android 4.4) update. From their follow the guides post in this thread to get Safestrap 3.71 installed. I recommend Hyperdrive or SHOStock for your daily driver... though your mileage may very.

Quick note to all those who were trying to help...
I really do believe there was a problem with this phone.
In order to have it replaced, AT&T asked me to do the OTA. It's now 4.4, so no hope of Rooting.
However, they are replacing it. I *may* play with that one if it's not 4.4, and see if I can SafeStrap it, make myself happy.
But most likely I am moving on to the Nexus 5 + Pac ROM or CM or something new, and I am selling the replacement on eBay.
Please don't waste any more of your time trying to help out. I appreciate all the suggestions, but I think I am done. Hopefully someone at Samsung will come to their senses and this BS will stop. When they do, I will come back to these phones. Until then, I am blessed to be able to afford unlocked devices, and I will not go back.
I have to admit, this community has done a great job of being good to newbies and to guys like me, who aren't quite newbies but don't have the time to get in too deep. Thanks again.

I'd like to purchase the phone if you haven't sold it on eBay
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I have had similar gremlins recently. It's just not a very good phone or at least at&t have made it mediocre. That said, you may have had problems with the update if you deleted or froze any stock apps.
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Thanks for the info.
I had my original s4 (MDL) running CM and PacRom and it was awesome. TouchWiz + AT&T mods is the problem. The phone wouldn't even recognize my voice well through my car stereo hands free. (the PacRom version was perfect).
Anyway, I used Odin to flash mk2 stock, then had at&t replace it under warranty. I just sold that one. I'm typing this on a Nexus 5 with a modified Paranoid Android 4.0.
(wtf? PA removed the quick setting button for sound/silent in 4.0/4.1 so I had to find a mod.)
So far so good. I'm worried about not being able to swap the battery, but I love the wireless charging.

Kit Kat OTA users...

Hello All,
I've lurked for a fairly long time, however I have come forward from the darkness to share some problems brought to light from the KK OTA update.
It Sucks.
There is no way around this. It's laggy in every menu. When im typing anything out, whether its a text, or an email or even into a search bar Its always chopping and lagging behind a couple seconds. Its a pain to hit the home button to back out of apps or just go get out of something that stopped responding for no apparent reason.
Also, as a small business owner, It is imperative that i stay in communication with my employees and family at all time should anything arise.
The KK OTA has failed miserably in this function. I have had it happen almost everyday for the last month since i downloaded it and installed it on my device that there are periods of time in between me receiving messages and sync data(email, push notifications, etc) that can be quite long. I have noticed that sometimes i just plain don't get my text messages for hours at a time. I'm a hard-working, geeky, IT guy 100% of the time, but Im a father first. Its not okay for me to not hear back from people regardless of what the situation is, and then I step out for air at night and go for a cruise, and then all of my texts and push data suddenly hit my phone all at once, sometimes anywhere from 3-6 Hours later!!!!
Its not my reception. I have a full 5 bars at my residence and at least 4 everywhere else in town, and average speeds of 45 Down and 30Up. My brother and girlfriend also have Note 3s and experience the same and even some different issues. My girlfriend's note 3 cant stay charged longer than 6 hours. even with the phone having all the apps closed and RAM cleared and the phone in complete Airplane mode. Its gotten to the point where she always has her charger with her! We feel like iPhone users! We've gone as far as to buy 3 extended batteries and everybody gets to keep one as a spare. Often times i have 2 spares in my backpack and I swap batteries once a day. My brother has had issues with his keyboard failing to work at all and requiring an actual reboot of the device and yesterday he called me to tell me that his speaker stopped working and after 3 reboots the speaker was functioning normally again. What causes this?
To sum it up, I knew there was only one way to remedy this situation and I was dreading it. I had to call Verizon. I had to tell them that the OTA update had made my phone worthless and unusable. It was an even further long shot, but i had to request and demand a replacement Note 3 with Jellybean on it and NOT KIT KAT.
The phone was overnighted yesterday and it arrived this morning. It came with Jellybean. Flicking through the menus and settings I had forgotten what the speed had felt like. Crisp, concise and without the slightest hesitation. The main purpose of this replacement on JB was so that it could be rooted and the stock apps could be frozen through TiBu and a nice aftermarket ROM could be installed. And that's just what I'll do. I've kept my Sim in my old phone and made sure WiFi stays off on the new one until the old one is backed up and Im ready to root the new one. I cant take anymore chances with these stupid OTAs
Briefly after i had taken the OTA, I had attempted to use Kingo and vRoot(I had been out of the phone mod/root scene for a while) To my surprise it didnt work. Then i realized the boot loaders had changed and were blacklisted and there was no going back.
I've been stalking all of the similar "4.4.2 root method? threads for the last few weeks and all of the responses led me to this obvious conclusion.
Lesson Learned. READ XDA BEFORE TAKING OTAs.

Note 3 junk now.
My Note 3 after OTA:
1 in 30 chance of not seeing "mobile network not available"- and actually making a phone call.
Random reboots
Short battery life
Hot
Crappy visual voicemail trial hard to disable
Overall, my Note 3 which ran perfectly before the update, is junk now.
VZW only has one answer- refurb.
How's about a fix!

I with you. Was so excited about the update until i got it. Phone havent been the same since. I have to hit airplane mode about 10 times a day to get 4g back. The phone button just hangs and take forever to respone. The whole phone now is very slow. I calling verizon when i get a day off. Really thinking about ditching samsung altogether. Their not what they use to be
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droidfreak02 said:
I with you. Was so excited about the update until i got it. Phone havent been the same since. I have to hit airplane mode about 10 times a day to get 4g back. The phone button just hangs and take forever to respone. The whole phone now is very slow. I calling verizon when i get a day off. Really thinking about ditching samsung altogether. Their not what they use to be
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I know Samsung can do better than what they're doing right now. But the simple fact that Verizon was 2 months late to the KitKat party with a ****ty OTA to boot makes my blood boil. Currently running Hyperdrive Rom and I have not regrets.
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So any suggestions? Really don't want a refurb if possible for their screw up but i need a phone that works. The guy at the vzw store did tell me a fix was in the works Just wait?

charge1 said:
So any suggestions? Really don't want a refurb if possible for their screw up but i need a phone that works. The guy at the vzw store did tell me a fix was in the works Just wait?
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Hey guys, I experienced many of these issues as well but have since resolved them.
First, any auto killers that you are running will lag the system big time! I dont know the technicals of why this happens but I experimented on my phone and it happens. SO AVOID AUTO KILLER APPS.
Second, this is in addition to the above suggestion. If you still have problems, a clean re-install might solve it. You can simply use kies or the verizon upgrade app which you can download with a little google search. Repair the installation or install clean (even better) to clear these issues up.
Again, I don't know the technicals but this worked for me after a good amount of experimentation and it's working fine until a root is available.
Best of luck!

Glitching and freezing?

Hello,
I just acquired another Note 3, except this time on Verizon. Everything seemed to be working fine. I got home, did a factory reset (because the CSR skipped a bunch of stuff) and got everything set up the way I like it. Installed a few of my favorite apps (Snapchat, Spotify, Clash of Clans) and turned off all the Amazon and Verizon bloat.
Until...
About an hour after I got home I had my screen freeze. There was a few static lines going across the screen and then the device rebooted and returned to normal. No biggie. Then I played Clash of Clans for a little bit and the same thing happened. Sigh. This time it didn't restart itself, so I pulled the battery and noticed the battery cover wasn't fastened completely at the store. This made me question if that was the cause, but usually stuff like that happens from software issues. I left the battery out for a few minutes and threw it back in.
There was a couple more times it happened, but really no need to go into detail. Now I'm just sitting here typing this out hoping it doesn't happen again.
Any ideas to what might be causing this? I don't use any apps not tested on Kitkat, and am not rooted etc. I'd hate to make another trip to the store to swap it out. Oh, and I also disabled WiFi scanning, and that didn't seem to fix the issue.
Help!

I had some reboots as well. I don't remember where i saw it but I read an article about done issues in kit Kat causing freezes. The article also covered the pain in the arse changes to sdcard r/w.
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I rooted using beanstown106's method for kit Kat 4.4.2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2787627
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So I went back and exchanged the phone today for a different one and so far so good. This one came pre-installed with kitkat as well. I'm crossing my fingers.

My phone is doing this as well, brand new note 3 with no
Except mine is rooted. I figured it was the root. Now I want to unroot and return it. ..
How do I unroot from towel root

waterbottels said:
My phone is doing this as well, brand new note 3 with no
Except mine is rooted. I figured it was the root. Now I want to unroot and return it. ..
How do I unroot from towel root
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No idea, haven't rooted mine and don't plan to. There should be a guide posted somewhere in General.
For what it's worth, haven't had a single issue with the replacement so far. Phew.

TheMavic said:
No idea, haven't rooted mine and don't plan to. There should be a guide posted somewhere in General.
For what it's worth, haven't had a single issue with the replacement so far. Phew.
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Could you keep me updated on how you went about getting it replaced? Also how long have you had it without incident? I'm looking into unrooting replacing it

waterbottels said:
Could you keep me updated on how you went about getting it replaced? Also how long have you had it without incident? I'm looking into unrooting replacing it
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It's been 24 hours so far without incident. I just took it up to the Verizon store where I purchased it and told them it was freezing and rebooting and they gave me a brand new replacement. How long have you had yours?

Yay Lollipop for Droid turbo... it sucks, tons of issues

I can't figure out how to edit the top post on this
Got the update this morning and hardly noticed. One thing to note is the Verizon messaging application crashes when trying to send and receive MMS forcing me to use the new version. I only noticed because of this glitch. It has other instabilities as well and my battery suffered a loss, I only get about a full days use where I used to have almost 2. Also the phone keeps going into Airplane mode. The camera can't record in 4k mode either...
The first is the phone before the update, the latter two are after... Still near stock with circles widget. I can take it in to get it replaced, but I don't want the Verizon tramp stamp...

endafy said:
I can't figure out how to edit the top post on this
Got the update this morning and hardly noticed. One thing to note is the Verizon messaging application crashes when trying to send and receive MMS forcing me to use the new version. I only noticed because of this glitch. It has other instabilities as well and my battery suffered a loss, I only get about a full days use where I used to have almost 2. Also the phone keeps going into Airplane mode. The camera can't record in 4k mode either...
The first is the phone before the update, the latter two are after... Still near stock with circles widget. I can take it in to get it replaced, but I don't want the Verizon tramp stamp...
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Is it a soak version or official? Yours is droid turbo or just Moto Maxx?
Please update more for us, thanks!!!!

chrisjenho said:
Is it a soak version or official? Yours is droid turbo or just Moto Maxx?
Please update more for us, thanks!!!!
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Sorry Droid Turbo, and no I don't do soak tests. I rely too heavily on the device for business. I have a feeling the update may get delayed due to this. Trust me there are issues, and it is the only reason I noticed I got the update at all. The Maxx is the non-Verizon version.

Can you post some screenshot of the 'about phone'?
Any new stuff on the lollipop for droid turbo?
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Also, I think you can downgrade the phone to 4.4.4 by RSD, if you need the firmware.xml, I get send a link to you.

If you've got lollipop, then why is the usb debugging icon from kitkat? :/

It's an alternative launcher....

So you got the update this morning? And yet you already know how the battery life is? Yeah nothing to see here, move along. Let's lock this before it gets out of hand
The op is also the guy that claims to have got root working.. Then provided Nada...

There's actually no indicative that it's lollipop. It's just the Google Now launcher before and after the update (app update)
Everything looks as kitkat as it could. Sorry, pal. You didn't fool us

Hey look, I got the update too!!
Its called an updated Google Now Launcher (or any other up to date third party launcher for that matter), not Lollipop.

endafy said:
I can't figure out how to edit the top post on this
Got the update this morning and hardly noticed. One thing to note is the Verizon messaging application crashes when trying to send and receive MMS forcing me to use the new version. I only noticed because of this glitch. It has other instabilities as well and my battery suffered a loss, I only get about a full days use where I used to have almost 2. Also the phone keeps going into Airplane mode. The camera can't record in 4k mode either...
The first is the phone before the update, the latter two are after... Still near stock with circles widget. I can take it in to get it replaced, but I don't want the Verizon tramp stamp...
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Nice google now launcher. Nice try

cauebs said:
If you've got lollipop, then why is the usb debugging icon from kitkat? :/
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This guys is a regular liar. He is using Nova, nay the Google Now Launcher.

zathus said:
So you got the update this morning? And yet you already know how the battery life is? Yeah nothing to see here, move along. Let's lock this before it gets out of hand
The op is also the guy that claims to have got root working.. Then provided Nada...
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He also claimed that the soak test was over and Lollipop was rolling out two weeks ago. Of course, some of us know better.

Damn, the guy didn't even had the work to change the Kitkat debug logo on the status bar. I don't know if he's a bad pretender or really believed that his device was updated.

videtonator said:
Damn, the guy didn't even had the work to change the Kitkat debug logo on the status bar. I don't know if he's a bad pretender or really believed that his device was updated.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58560723&postcount=10
Go ask Motorola for yourselves, it is past the soak test, and is now rolling out in the first wave. As soon as my device gets the update I will post screenshots, but I did provide proof of the Motorola conversation screenshot. I didn't even edit out my name. I stand by my word.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...rbo-rooted-t3001024/post58177983#post58177983
I have it temporarily rooted, it loses root upon reboot, please wait until I can get a script working. I have been granted temporary root via camera. It grants temporary root via USB Debugging turned on with MTP and all that turned off. I have been able to remove VZW Bloatware... no luck on bootloader yet though.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58794613&postcount=1
endafy said:
I thought I would, but everything I used to use root for I can do non-rooted now. This has all that I want and more, only a few minor setbacks.
USB OTG for storage, and USB gamepad, keyboards etc...
Wireless HDMI
USB Tethering I use PDA Net
Sideloading applications, provided they are signed, and signing an unsigned application isn't that hard...
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I can hide the apps (only drawback) but not uninstall them
I can't load kernel modules
Buttons are hardware so changing them is a non-issue
I can't change the battery icon
In fact up until the Lollipop update, the device has been fast, smooth, stable, and did everything I wanted. I think rooting and romming aside, and of course my next phone will be a developer phone, but I can live without root for a little while, this works well. I am off to the Verizon store to replace this so I can get a working Kit-Kat version, if I can get one without the Verizon trampstamp. If not I will just wait for a fix which will be coming shortly.
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This guy is worthy of your ignore list. He first claims soak is over and Lollipop is rolling out weeks ago, then posts a launcher fake-out.
He claims he has root, then says he doesn't miss it? what a troll.

adrynalyne said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58560723&postcount=10
http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...rbo-rooted-t3001024/post58177983#post58177983
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58794613&postcount=1
This guy is worthy of your ignore list. He first claims soak is over and Lollipop is rolling out weeks ago, then posts a launcher fake-out.
He claims he has root, then says he doesn't miss it? what a troll.
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I already reported him as did a few others so hopefully they can deal with him. He must live a sad life, I really feel bad for him

All it took was 2 seconds looking at the wifi icon to see that this wasn't lollipop. I mean, come on, really? What's the point in this? I agree, definitely worthy of ignore list.

ahaynes42 said:
All it took was 2 seconds looking at the wifi icon to see that this wasn't lollipop. I mean, come on, really? What's the point in this? I agree, definitely worthy of ignore list.
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Depending on the oem the wifi icon may or may not change. If you look at the s5 for verizon that icon didnt change.

the_rooter said:
Depending on the oem the wifi icon may or may not change. If you look at the s5 for verizon that icon didnt change.
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That's touchwiz you're talking about. It doesn't look like stock android anyway. The Turbo (like most Moto phones) is meant to be as close to stock as possible. I'd be willing to bet quite a bit that our wifi icon will be solid white when we get the update.

How the hell does he get a full day of use if he got the update this morning. Please close thread and stop giving him attention.

Stop the bull****, the wifi icons are from kitkat

[Q] What's the verdict on Lollipop for SM-G900W8?

I just received the OTA for Lollipop for my SM-G900W8, but I'm holding off on installing it. I've read some pretty negative feedback on it (e.g., Verizon), as well as from some Nexus 5 owners who say it's very unstable. If you are a running on a Canadian network, particularly Bell Mobility, your feedback is appreciated.
Also, did you have to clear the cache or do a reset?
Is there a way to delete a pending OTA update? I'm worried it will install next time I reboot the phone and I don't want that to happen until I'm ready.

bimmerdriver said:
I just received the OTA for Lollipop for my SM-G900W8, but I'm holding off on installing it. I've read some pretty negative feedback on it (e.g., Verizon), as well as from some Nexus 5 owners who say it's very unstable. If you are a running on a Canadian network, particularly Bell Mobility, your feedback is appreciated.
Also, did you have to clear the cache or do a reset?
Is there a way to delete a pending OTA update? I'm worried it will install next time I reboot the phone and I don't want that to happen until I'm ready.
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+1 I'm with Rogers btw

I am also a Rogers customer...
I never received notice of the update and when trying through Kies, and checking update through the phone it showed my 4.4.2 as current. In speaking with Rogers on line and in store, they tell me that 5.0 was pulled by Samsung due to bugs, yet Samsung won't confirm, other than Norway. Have been trying to update to 5.0 or at least wait til 5.1 comes, but not sure how I get my phone to do this automatically, without having to flash the firmware. Phone is unlocked, but never rooted.

I tried stock Lollipop a couple days ago. I went back to KitKat a day later. I wasn't a fan of the way it handled sound with the whole interruption system and such. And I often turn off just notifications while leaving everything else on but it was overly complicated to do that with the stock 5.0 rom. I had a couple force closures on apps that were never a problem before and it was just, well, not as responsive. Although that might've needed to take some time? The pop-up notifications thing was annoying (blocked part of the app I was in some times) and the task switcher was slow and cumbersome compared to the fast list in KitKat.
My thoughts, anyway. I think I'll wait for Google to mess with stuff. I get the feeling that they upgraded with good intentions but got a bit too carried away with their ideas. However, I am just one person so, you know, others probably liked it a lot.

Thanks for the replies. I didn't hear anything bad specifically for this model do I decided to give it a try. Installation was clean. No glitches at all. I'll keep an eye on battery consumption and report back. First impression is that Google got carried away with themselves making gratuitous changes.
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I've gotten the update on my Bell Galaxy S5. There seems to be two issues: 1) Battery life. I've been getting 2-3hrs SoT only, while I was getting much more than that before. 2) Sometimes the call audio drops. I can't hear the other person and they can't hear me, but if you call back it seems to work? It's really hit or miss. Currently investigating the battery problem but it seems to be some sort of wakelock caused by PowerManagerService.WakeLocks and PowerManagerService.Display. GSAM reports that Kernel is taking up 40% of the battery.

It's been over a week with lollipop. There was another update a couple days after I upgraded. There are a few things I don't like, but it seems to be working pretty well.
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