[Q] Is NAND Android faster than NativeSD Android? - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

I like having WP7.8 but I hardly use it and most the app's I do use are in android, but I've noticed it's rather slow, so I was wondering is there much of a speed difference or none at all... I mean ICS/JB/KK version's I know GB is pretty fast and smooth.

n1nj4Lo said:
I like having WP7.8 but I hardly use it and most the app's I do use are in android, but I've noticed it's rather slow, so I was wondering is there much of a speed difference or none at all... I mean ICS/JB/KK version's I know GB is pretty fast and smooth.
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For me, yes. Only NAND installation is much quicker than DataOnExt or NativeSD. But not all roms can be installed on only NAND (only if you have T-Mobile)

Clamor said:
For me, yes. Only NAND installation is much quicker than DataOnExt or NativeSD. But not all roms can be installed on only NAND (only if you have T-Mobile)
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Yes that roms are definitive Faster, than NativeSD roms.
You are mistaking, roms under 4.x can be flash on NAND (I'm talking about EU HD2) and also Data is on nand, also Dev with name of Xylograph have some 4.x roms what also can be installen on NAND with Data on NAND and they have much than 100mb free memory for Data.

Hendziuu said:
You are mistaking, roms under 4.x can be flash on NAND (I'm talking about EU HD2) and also Data is on nand, also Dev with name of Xylograph have some 4.x roms what also can be installen on NAND with Data on NAND and they have much than 100mb free memory for Data.
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I use T-Mobile HD2 so I have no problems with free space any ROM can be installed easily on onlyNAND on it.

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Android with or without Sense?

Although I like sense its widgets and its stability, flashing it in my HD2 gets on my nerves. The reason is that internal memory is full and i can not use it as i could. So that the best choice for a NAND Rom is TyphooN's CyanogenMod7. What are your thoughts?
I don't like sense roms for the simple fact that I have a EU HD2 and my memory card isnt the greatest so having to use ext3/4 as part of the system usually makes my phone slow.
The roms that I use at the mo are either boyppcs CM7 rom or hyperdroid CM7. As for the sense widgets, I just use the Sense themed launcher pro
giorgosfil13 said:
Although I like sense its widgets and its stability, flashing it in my HD2 gets on my nerves. The reason is that internal memory is full and i can not use it as i could. So that the best choice for a NAND Rom is TyphooN's CyanogenMod7. What are your thoughts?
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Hi,
Please check my sig...guide number 1.
You could try using the scripts in the nexushd2 thread that has the apps2sd uninstaller and the data2sd installer its easy to do and it frees up internal memory and gives you a higher quadrant score. You will need to partition SD card I used minitool partition wizard for mine, I have 2 partitions one fat32 and the other ext3.
With sense I will say...
No sense for me. Should try these 2 roms:
tytung's NexusHD2 (pure Android)
tyween's Typhoon CM7 (better Android with CyanogenMod)
Typhoon CM7 is good ,but now it have some bug .you must be install hotfix.
Nexus ROM have bugs that when you call,you can not use gprs unlessyou udate network
No Sense for me. Too resource hungry for such a limited interface. It's simple, all-inclusive, and pretty, but imo it kinda dumbs down a smart phone.
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I have to agree, while sense looks pretty, that quickly wears off but the sluggishness doesn't.

Q. Nand vs sd

I wanted to know how slow is sd compared to nand??
The sd versions are more stable and less bugs... But will they be ridiculously slower than nand versions???
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championswimmer said:
I wanted to know how slow is sd compared to nand??
The sd versions are more stable and less bugs... But will they be ridiculously slower than nand versions???
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No bugs with 2.3 aosp nand roms. Nand is a lot faster than sd version + it's very stable. Try it yourself
championswimmer said:
The sd versions are more stable and less bugs
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Whoa, where are you getting that from? Neither version has any significant bugs and both are very stable
championswimmer said:
I wanted to know how slow is sd compared to nand??
The sd versions are more stable and less bugs... But will they be ridiculously slower than nand versions???
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There are a lot on nand that are stable like sd..
The differences are where the new system is installed: on nand it is fast because the nand (a memory like ram) is insert into the board of the phone and has bus and cable directly connected to the cpu.. But, maybe, it can be less stable because it isn't so easy alter the nand.
Create a system for an sd is easyer than nand because is an external device and, for this, maybe slow..
I cannot give you more details on speed.. It's like the speed of copy between two sata hard disk vs usb between disk..
Did i make myself clear?
RoachTeo said:
There are a lot on nand that are stable like sd..
The differences are where the new system is installed: on nand it is fast because the nand (a memory like ram) is insert into the board of the phone and has bus and cable directly connected to the cpu.. But, maybe, it can be less stable because it isn't so easy alter the nand.
Create a system for an sd is easyer than nand because is an external device and, for this, maybe slow..
I cannot give you more details on speed.. It's like the speed of copy between two sata hard disk vs usb between disk..
Did i make myself clear?
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lol...thanks but all this i already know...
i am gonna flash my hd2
so i jus wanna know if sd android will be "significantly" slower than nand android? (if not then I'll keep winmo on nand and not format nand)
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Read this
championswimmer said:
lol...thanks but all this i already know...
i am gonna flash my hd2
so i jus wanna know if sd android will be "significantly" slower than nand android? (if not then I'll keep winmo on nand and not format nand)
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Post 4 of this discussion: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924577
championswimmer said:
lol...thanks but all this i already know...
i am gonna flash my hd2
so i jus wanna know if sd android will be "significantly" slower than nand android? (if not then I'll keep winmo on nand and not format nand)
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Hmm, not significantly slower but it will have much worse battery life. I've used ACA on SD (when I used Winmo) and Typhoon on NAND now and NAND is definitely faster but I wouldn't say significantly so.
Nigeldg said:
Hmm, not significantly slower but it will have much worse battery life. I've used ACA on SD (when I used Winmo) and Typhoon on NAND now and NAND is definitely faster but I wouldn't say significantly so.
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Yes, this is also my result. First i tried Boxmax on SD. It was stable but slow. So i decided to go to Energy NAND with the same Android+Sense Version like Boxmax. The NAND Version is faster so i have fun with it.
Ryker

looking for an android Nand-only rom for HD2 EU

I am looking for a stable android ROM for my HD2 to be installed on the phone memory only and has nothing to do with the SD card...
I need something closer to the following rom but updated:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893620
Thank you !
Nakkoush said:
I am looking for a stable android ROM for my HD2 to be installed on the phone memory only and has nothing to do with the SD card...
I need something closer to the following rom but updated:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893620
Thank you !
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Have you even tried looking in the NAND Development forum? There are tonnes of those to choose from. Read the sticky at the top by yz.hd for a good list of almost all of them.
Nigeldg said:
Have you even tried looking in the NAND Development forum? There are tonnes of those to choose from. Read the sticky at the top by yz.hd for a good list of almost all of them.
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dude, i am looking for a Sence nand rom (since I use HTCsync) that will install on the phone's internal memory only without the need to partition and use my external SDCARD (of the HD2 EU version).
AFAIK, I couldn't find any ROM beside the one that I posted its link in my previous post that can be installed on the phone's internal memory only !
Any help is highly appreciated !
Nakkoush said:
dude, i am looking for a Sence nand rom (since I use HTCsync) that will install on the phone's internal memory only without the need to partition and use my external SDCARD (of the HD2 EU version).
AFAIK, I couldn't find any ROM beside the one that I posted its link in my previous post that can be installed on the phone's internal memory only !
Any help is highly appreciated !
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Literally a few seconds on the NAND Development page and I found this. The OP clearly states that A2SD is an extra addon, and post 4 confirms this. Should be fine for you
Nigeldg said:
Literally a few seconds on the NAND Development page and I found this. The OP clearly states that A2SD is an extra addon, and post 4 confirms this. Should be fine for you
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I feel embarrassed to ask you more mate BUT the fact is that Android 2.2.x never work fine with 7 digits numbers caller ID 0x xxx xxx... I need something like 2.3.x with Sence (to use it with HTCsync as well)
Nakkoush said:
I feel embarrassed to ask you more mate BUT the fact is that Android 2.2.x never work fine with 7 digits numbers caller ID 0x xxx xxx... I need something like 2.3.x with Sence (to use it with HTCsync as well)
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Not sure if any of those don't use SD EXTs for EU models, but if so it will be a 2.3.3 with Sense 2.1 ROM. I'm reasonably sure that Sense 3.0 + is far too big to fit only on NAND storage. Also, the whole point of the Q&A is to ask questions and get answers So there isn't any need to be embarassed unless you haven't searched yet
You can try Team Blue Droid by Dansta, it is GB with Sense 3.5. All you need to do is flash it, as long as you do not have an sd-ext then it will automatically flash as a Tmous HD2 and install the rom on internal memory.
chrisrj28 said:
You can try Team Blue Droid by Dansta, it is GB with Sense 3.5. All you need to do is flash it, as long as you do not have an sd-ext then it will automatically flash as a Tmous HD2 and install the rom on internal memory.
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Hello everybody. I also need nand installation coz i want sd-ext for data2sd.... plz help
shezi2243 said:
Hello everybody. I also need nand installation coz i want sd-ext for data2sd.... plz help
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=928
Kameirus said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=928
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I knw wHERE the NAND section is. I wanna knw abt a nand only sense 3.5 rom. Coz they usually ask for sd-ext
shezi2243 said:
I knw wHERE the NAND section is. I wanna knw abt a nand only sense 3.5 rom. Coz they usually ask for sd-ext
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Nand only sense 3.5 on a EU hd2 without sd-ext? are you sure that thing even exist?
Even if it does, I doubt you'll be able to install more than just a couple of apps.
Use YZ sticky compilation to find sense 3.5 roms, and start narrowing them down.
Marvlesz said:
Nand only sense 3.5 on a EU hd2 without sd-ext? are you sure that thing even exist?
Even if it does, I doubt you'll be able to install more than just a couple of apps.
Use YZ sticky compilation to find sense 3.5 roms, and start narrowing them down.
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Well if i could hav something like it, id use sibere data2sd to hav 1 gb sd ext for app installation
This is the best you can get for nand system.... Urdroid.
TBD Sense
fsxpilipinas said:
This is the best you can get for nand system.... Urdroid.
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I'm Using this rom from 5 days can't believe its so smooth and very good battery it's a sense rom by developer sundawg.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769081

[Q] EU Roms

Are there any ROMs for the EU HD2 which do not need the sd-ext partition?
I'm using the phone while my sensation is in repair and I don't want to partition the SD Card.
I have gauner's on there atm but it's far too slow on my phone to a point where it becomes unusable.
Any help appreciated. Thanks =]
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Miui gingerbread
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joncy92 said:
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Any MIUI/CM7/CM9/AOSP/AOKP ROM I think.
Isnt the partition only required for WM7 ?
Ruijc said:
Isnt the partition only required for WM7 ?
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yup...and sd-ext on android is only optional,it still can run well without it
xskill said:
yup...and sd-ext on android is only optional,it still can run well without it
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Nope, it depends on the Android ROM.
lite
u need to use lite roms just type in lite roms xda in google
Try this one. Android 2.3.5 Sense 1.0 NAND (base Supersonic 4.67.651.3) by Dj Danik.
Because the sense 1.0 is small, no ext partition is necessay. You still have sense, although it is an old one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1605992
is there a difference between EU and other versions?!
every rom i installed worked fine, and i my case also in german too.
Luiooo said:
is there a difference between EU and other versions?!
every rom i installed worked fine, and i my case also in german too.
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the difference is the memory.
T-Mobile HD2: 576MB RAM, 1GB ROM
HTC HD2: 448MB RAM, 512MB ROM
so the the t-mobile hd2 has a bigger internal memory for apps and you normally don't need any ext partitions
you can flash every rom on a eu-hd2...not much space..but enough for daily use

smallest jellybean rom for HD2 (NAND)

hi
i'm looking for the smallest available JellyBean rom for my hd2
the rom must not be larger than 155 MB because i need all the rest of my nand
thanX
specter16 said:
hi
i'm looking for the smallest available JellyBean rom for my hd2
the rom must not be larger than 155 MB because i need all the rest of my nand
thanX
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You could fairly easily make one yourself, just open the ROM's .zip and delete any apps, ringtones, bootanimations, notification sounds etc. that you don't use. You may be able to get it under 155MB that way.
specter16 said:
hi
i'm looking for the smallest available JellyBean rom for my hd2
the rom must not be larger than 155 MB because i need all the rest of my nand
thanX
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You can use Link2SD or ROM's with DataOnEXT script (only if you have EXT partition on SD)
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yep, A2SD, Check the script in my signature. Its very useful, Even if u bring it down to 155mb, still doesnt leave alot left
adil1508 said:
yep, A2SD, Check the script in my signature. Its very useful, Even if u bring it down to 155mb, still doesnt leave alot left
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will it work on jb rom ?
i v heard that a2sd scripts make some trobbles with ics and jb roms
Sent from my HTC HD2
get a good sd card.. then it will work fine.. for example..
Kingston 8GB Class 4 (works very bad!)
Kingston 4GB Class 4 (works fine..)
but nand is much faster even on EU HD2.. i have 205MB partition (system)..
deleted maps.. youtube. and few unnecessary apps.. and have still 100+MB of free space for apps.. few you can move to SD and its okay!
specter16 said:
will it work on jb rom ?
i v heard that a2sd scripts make some trobbles with ics and jb roms
Sent from my HTC HD2
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I think using dataonext and nativeSD is much better than a2sd. Most of JB roms support both.
specter16 said:
will it work on jb rom ?
i v heard that a2sd scripts make some trobbles with ics and jb roms
Sent from my HTC HD2
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I used it mainly for ICS because at the time, i coudnt find any script that woudnt slow down the phone, except this one. It works on ICS for sure, no problems or anything. You will have to try it on JB for yourself. I personally dont think it will create any problems but still make a backup
cswong said:
I think using dataonext and nativeSD is much better than a2sd. Most of JB roms support both.
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The int2ext script IS basically dataonext.

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