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now that I've had the XDA II for a week...
what/when will the XDA III come out?
I'm pretty sure it will have:
1. faster CPU
2. more memory
3. WiFi
4. better screen (probably VGA resolution)
I hope it also have:
1.. GPS
2. WiFi
3. longer / bigger / optional battery
4. better camera
5. better software e.g. camera, pic id, ie, backup, ...
6. usable as a wireless in-house phone via bluetooth
What else do you guys expect?

Ummm,,, I think you are getting a bit ahead of yourself. It isnt even out yey (XDAII) in most parts of the world. I mean, you might as well ask when is the XDAIV or XDAV coming out? Im sure all of your speculations will be addressed in some time to come.....

not to mention that iPaq is planning to release a whole new ppc rumored to be with even more capabilities than the xda2. heard about it while attending a techie conference in hong kong...they're planning to use the iPaq 5550 (the one with bluetooth, fingerprint bio-thingee, etc) as the base model. from there they're going to add a high res camera, phone edition, possibly gps, etc. so it may give xda a run for it's money as they try to overtake one another in terms of capabilities. that's the sad part about releasing your product ahead of the pack; it becomes the basis for releasing an improved product by reverse engineering. in any case, it'll be most interesting to see how the next generation ppcs will look like and how they will perform.
2 cents worth..
robson

I heard it's based on the 4xxx form factor (aka no more sleeves..ever).
And it will only have 64 MB of RAM.
Haha yeah right, the MDA II was rumored at one point to only have 64 MB of RAM, but it didn't come out with that. Gotta keep in mind, stuff is only rumors. Don't keep waiting around for that perfect device.
I'm happy with my XDA II for now, and if the H6000 comes out six months from now and is way better, well, then I got 6 months good use out of my XDA II, and I can decide then if I want to upgrade.
Those people saying "I'll hold off on the XDA II and wait for the H6000 cause I've heard it's so good, etc. etc." seem silly to me, because when the H6000 comes out, something else bigger (or smaller in the PDA world, lol) and better will be rumoredm and they'll be saying "I'll hold off on the H6000 and wait for the ______ because it's so good, etc. etc."
-arebelspy

if you think about for how long from the xda were released to the xda2 got here i say it's pretty hard to say what it will offer
it's hard to predict more so about the furture
maybe it'll have
wireless glasses / eye pad screen
maybe it'll have ESP interface
maybe it'll connect directly to satelites
maybe it'll give you a brain turmor after a few hours use

Maybe you can add "TV Tuner" and "CF Slot" in your list...

I reckon it will be 3g compatible.

3G, CF, TV
TV/FM tuner will be nice. Samsung already came out with something
like this in the far east, I think.
I'd guess the XDA III "information" will be here in 9-10 months,
and by then a CF card will be useless, especialyl if we get WiFi+GPS
builtin and standard 1Gb SD cards.
If you guys think that HTC engineers aren't already working on
the XDA III, you're very wrong.
I think 3G is unlikely to show up on a global form anytime soon.
Adding WiFi and/or GPS receiver to already GSM/Bluetooth signals
is going to be hard enough, electorically (shielding), so 3G might
be 2-3 years away.
Hopefully, with WM2004, we'll have more than 32 processes and
better overall device management. Right now, I'm forced to
soft-reset every 2-3 days, and I don't like that.

Man, I soft reset every few hours. What's the big deal? It boots up as fast as it would load a webpage, so the wait isn't that bad.
Why do people complain about soft resetting? I just like that I get to choose when to soft reset (i.e. after saving all work, closing all apps, etc.), rather than it locking up and forcing a soft reset. The XDA II is a stable device, to be sure.
-arebelspy

Rudegar said:
maybe it'll have
wireless glasses / eye pad screen
maybe it'll have ESP interface
maybe it'll connect directly to satelites
maybe it'll give you a brain turmor after a few hours use
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seriously -> LOL
btw...i think i already have a brain tumor, right above my right ear :shock:

regarding soft reset
he he. Maybe I should soft-reset every now and then.
My problem is, I've had ie+multie+battery2004 create some lockup
that soft-reset didn't really cleanup.
I suspect I pressed the mult-ie func-menu while a page was loading
and something more was going on... anyway:
I had to Hard-reset.
I restored my xBackup from my SD (night before, device was soft
reset and no active apps while running)
and guess what, after the restore the device won't reboot.
tried it twice. had to go back to activesync backup... yak.
I've had multiple times where I had to soft-reset while an app was
active, but the menu has gone "dead"... I turn the device off,
then press reset, as if "when it is sleepy" a soft reset is "safer".
I'm pretty sure this is just vodoo... but it works for me.
Now everytime I soft-reset I wonder if I ever going to see it reload...

Hi mgolanlan!
It's some off-thing, but can you write a key for MultiIE3 to me?
I'd be so happy
Thanks!

mgolanlan
well since a 3g phone works on the current gsm networks aswell
same thing with edge i dont find it all that unlikely that xda3 may support some of these new tech's
guess in many ways it also depend on ms's view on edge and 3g and video phone issues
btw...i think i already have a brain tumor, right above my right ear
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hhmmm are you sure that you just dident forget to take off your bluetooth ear piece ? sleeping with it on may cause an uncomfortable ache

All the above and
It will have a find OBL/Saddam/hackers button
Make world peace
be 2mm thick
only occasionally crash when making a phone call, or syncing to outlook.
:roll:

It will of course be much smaller, 1"x1", but compensate this with a (foldable) 15" display :wink:

my exp show that things which fold end up as
1 worn out so it'll not stay in any pos
2 the plastic breaks (happent 2 times with crap acer laptops for me)
so it's better to project the image then fold it out

VGA screen ?
WM2003 specs say 240x320. No more, no less !
Maybe next version of OS will allow other rezs, but for now it will remain 240x320.

so what ?
xda1 came with 2002
xda2 came with 2003
xda2 will come with XXXX???

kitarolivier said:
VGA screen ?
WM2003 specs say 240x320. No more, no less !
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1. it is official that wm2004 will support higher resolutions
2. 3rd party software already does, for PDFs, IE etc
3. a Toshiba pocketPC already avail with VGA res,
and it is typically run the 4-pixel-is-one thing, but has
exceptions for some software (pictures?!)
VGA-resolution ppc-size screen is already here!

I personally will not be happy until my PDA is a tiny, rounded stainless steel implant with a small cable that inductively couples to my optic nerves, a pickup coil for the charger mat that is under my bed-sheets, another tiny cable to hook to my inner ears for mike and earpiece, and some pickup electrodes to be fitted near certain regions in the brain.
Man, I can just see myself sitting there, enjoying the 4800x2400 stereo overlayed display, simply thinking my E-mails. And of course the device would use the same inductive optic-nerve pickup as a camera, and it would have enough processing power to replace people and objects I do not like in real-time, add nice works of art on otherwise boring surfaces, and add up all visual information about certain people until they can be renedered without their clothes on. Just think of the money saved on home decoration and travel.

Is it worth the change?

I currently own a symbian based phone...(nokia 6600)..I want to buy a tytn..Jus got to play with 1 for a few minutes and I fell in love with it..Jus a few questions..Is the change worth?Or do i go for a nokia?Does it crash often?Is it fragile?Is the windows mobile platform instable?And finally, is there a risk of my getting screen alignment problem?Thanks.

luke1708 said:
I currently own a symbian based phone...(nokia 6600)..I want to buy a tytn..Jus got to play with 1 for a few minutes and I fell in love with it..Jus a few questions..Is the change worth?Or do i go for a nokia?Does it crash often?Is it fragile?Is the windows mobile platform instable?And finally, is there a risk of my getting screen alignment problem?Thanks.
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Depends what kind of person you are!!
Does it crash often - can do depends what you put on it and whether you want to spend a bit (maybe quite a bit) of time tweaking it here and there - maybe nipping into registry to make a change or two to suit you. (I have mine pretty stable now - no soft reset for around 3 weeks or so though it takes effort to get it to this state.)
It is fun, you learn to love it and it's little faults most of which have some work around. If you like spending time basically playing around with the look / feel and function of this kind of device I say change to it.
If you expect something out of the box with little to do except stick applications on it, and you would get bored fiddling around with this and that setting, then stay away from it.
The screen alignment issue is far less prevalent than in the earlier models. But there are still one or two around. If buying from a shop check that the keyboard has a firm slide and click into position when both open and closed (some can be a bit loose) If (big if) they let you stick battery in and power up, check each keyboard key using say WORD to ensure non of them need too firm a press to get the letter to come up.
Finally I'd say if you intend the device as a more or less purely business machine then probably I'd settle for a lower spec and possibly more stable device. But if you are something of an experimenter and like a broad range of fairly high spec possibilities and enjoy the challenge of this kind of thing then it's for you.
Mike

Thanks.The reason for my buying the hermes is because i have to submit 2 big computer projects at the end of this year,at college.I wil there4 b using the word mobile when i get ideas.I wil not install many other programs.Btw,Is there a program for the hermes which enables me to run vb6 programs created on my pc,on hermes?And which one is more stable?The hermes,wizard or eten glofish m700?Thanks

Deflated

Got my new HD from Uk Mobiles. Was really looking forward to it. What a let down. Is this really the phone that is raved about? What does it give me that my Tytn didn't apart from a bigger screen, welcome but not essential, and built in GPS?
It is no faster in real use, the volume is so low when using Tom Tom that it can't be heard (unlike my Tytn which needed turning down and could be used in my old diesel Transit with no problems) and the lag on the GPS is so bad that you need to stop on roundabouts for a cup of tea and a biscuit so that it can catch up and show you which exit to take (if the sound worked I would have known because Jane would have told me).
It only changes orientation automatically in one or two items of software and it came with a rubbish little carry bag instead of the very usable belt holder that came with the Tytn.
Most of the software that is available was available on the Tytn, it seems to be only the extra screen real estate that makes a real difference.
It has no external buttons, something I didn't realise I would miss.
It's just as crap at syncing over bluetooth as the Tytn, I know that's a software issue but it just adds to the frustration and disapointment.
edit: Orange have identified a fault using a flow chart questionaire and have given me a fault code, Uk Mobiles are replacing the phone. If I can't come up with fixes for my issues, or rather the phone's issue my own are to deeply ingrained, before the new one arrives it's up on ebay.
What am I missing? Can it be turned into a usable phone or should I sell it on ebay, seek out a second hand TytnII and accept that I can't handle change?

Volume on mine is too loud actually,
Get HDTweak to enable the louder volume
Orientation can be changed in almost every app.
I use Mobile Magic to manage my Orientation apps
I have also fully tweaked my phone and I love it also coming form a Tytn.
I also miss the hardware buttons and most of all the slide out keyboard but I can now type just as fast on the softboard.
Your right about the speed not being any quicker but I can cope as can the phone.
My advice is if you feel like you say then sell it. however as with all HTC phones they have to be tweaked to get the most out of them.
That's why this place is such a god-send, Without this forum I doubt that many of us would own a HTC device.

Graeme, I know you're pain. When I got mine last November I struggled for a week to get it to sync with my exchange server and I had bluetooth issues as well. The stock rom seemed unstable and slow. I don't have any of those issues anymore and haven't for a long time. May I suggest trying a cooked rom. There are some great chefs in this forum that have refined and tweaked things such that, in my opinion, allow the HD to run the way it was intended...smooth and fast. My HD is solid. My point is, before you put it up on ebay, give one of these roms a look.

I'm sorry to hear you feel this way. I know others feel the same and similar threads have been created. Would recommend sticking with phone and trying to become adjusted to it. Read up opn other threads andpossible use software to improve phone. Plenty available on thjese forums if you search.
No need for another thread is similar ones exist.

Got an Idea to have an "Eclair" or "Hero" Lockscreen for Donut Builds

Got an Idea to have an "Eclair" or "Hero" Lockscreen for Donut Builds
I came across an app in the app store called "LockBot". There are two versions the paid version and the free one. I used the free one and I'm surprised. The programmer managed to get a fully "working" eclair lockscreen (Android 2.0 not the 2.0.1/2.1 crap) and a somewhat working hero lockscreen.
Can someone use this app to completely replace the standard lockscreen with the eclair lockscreen or a hero lockscreen. The only problem that I seen with the eclair one is that the wallpaper doesn't change to your wallpaper on the homescreen and the screen doesn't time out for me but everything else works. For the Hero Lockscreen it shows a black background for the home not the actual home screen and the other problems of the eclair lockscreen.
If only a dev can put this in their rom (either the lockscreen or at least include the app) or people can tell the world about this app so it can get more famous.

i've been using this recently too. really good app. dosn't always lock. seems to be about 95% of the time, but a working eclair lock is very nice.
I'm almost tempted to go pro to get the new font from 2.01/2.1

Battery drain
I also used this app and loved the eclair lockscreen... however, is it just me or does this drain my battery very rapidly? My phone was on standby and drained at least 50% in an hour and a half

Why on god's green earth would anyone *want* to use the "Hero" lockscreen instead of the Eclair or iPhone versions?
HTC's braindead lockscreen is the *reason* why Hero owners are the biggest single group desperately searching for a replacement. HTC stupidly used an unlock motion that can be triggered by merely putting your phone in your pocket or taking it out, compounded the misery by enabling random presses of the 'menu' button to unlock the phone as well, then iced the cupcake (so to speak) by making it impossible to "nicely" disable, so replacements have to either aggressively fight to keep it hidden (draining the battery and making everything else kind of flaky), or force the user to suffer through TWO unlock gestures to avoid having the phone randomly launch apps & make phone calls inside the user's pocket.
Both Lockbot and Lock2.0 seem to have fatal flaws on the Hero. Lockbot seems to have completely unpredictable behavior at least 10-20% of the time (right now, it's showing the iPhone lockscreen even though I have it deselected; I've had it get into moods where it makes itself the default home app until I reboot the phone, and it has enough other random oddities that I still don't feel 100% confident that it isn't interfering with incoming calls, voicemail notifications, or text messages). On the other hand, Lock2.0 seems to run almost flawlessly, but IT insists on stupidly enabling its own 'settings' menu when the phone is supposed to be locked, with no way to disable it. Two steps forward, one step backwards and slightly to the right...

in theory it's also possible to just port the eclair lockscreen for real. you can just get the eclair & donut source, and simply port it over... just copy lockscreen.java over, get the required classes to work and run make services, fix framework-res.apk and push it over, but i suck at that stuff so i can't do that

AFAIK, that won't work for the (CDMA) Hero... HTC's dysfunctional lockscreen is part of SenseUI & stapled on top of Android. If you install a well-behaved lockscreen app that doesn't go out of its way to subvert HTC's, you'll have to swat away BOTH the thirdparty lockscreen AND HTC's lockscreen. Pick your poison... random pocket actions, or double the fun every time you go to wake it up.
Of course, HTC will probably release the source to their 1.5 CDMA firmware someday... probably 6 months after 2.x is officially available from Sprint

miamicanes said:
Why on god's green earth would anyone *want* to use the "Hero" lockscreen instead of the Eclair or iPhone versions?
HTC's braindead lockscreen is the *reason* why Hero owners are the biggest single group desperately searching for a replacement. HTC stupidly used an unlock motion that can be triggered by merely putting your phone in your pocket or taking it out, compounded the misery by enabling random presses of the 'menu' button to unlock the phone as well, then iced the cupcake (so to speak) by making it impossible to "nicely" disable, so replacements have to either aggressively fight to keep it hidden (draining the battery and making everything else kind of flaky), or force the user to suffer through TWO unlock gestures to avoid having the phone randomly launch apps & make phone calls inside the user's pocket.
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I'm not sure what kind of android phone you are using but the touchscreen on mine is a capacitive touchscreen (like most of not all are). I tried making it respond by using my shirt and nothing happened so that isn't an issue for me. I cannot accidently unlock my phone unless i press the power button then menu.

It's a Sprint CDMA Hero. Try rubbing the screen against your leg through the thin cloth of the pocket liner in a pair of jeans somewhere humid like Florida. Now rub it up and down, over and over, as you sit and stand. It might not happen every time, but do it for a few hours, and it WILL eventually come unlocked.
I suspect it affects Sprint Heros more, because they're flat-faced & chinless, so they're more likely to have their screens come into full capacitive contact with your leg through the pocket.
What? Turn it around? Great. Now, instead of having the screen protected and buttons cushioned by skin (and less likely to be pressed individually) they can get pressed by creases in the jeans, or the seatbelt in your car, or anything else that applies pressure to the area. See, all you have to do on a Sprint Hero to unlock its stupid HTC keyguard is to press menu twice instead of doing a vertical swipe... and the presses don't have to be particularly well-timed, either.
My own phone (using HTC's keyguard) ends up getting unlocked in my pocket AT LEAST 8-10 times per week (sometimes going a day or two without it happening, then making up for lost time with 2 or 3 incidents on a single day).
HTC just has an amazing way of utterly and completely f***ing up keyguard on their phones. No matter what they do, no matter how loudly users scream in agony, they just can't ever get it right. It's almost like they have focus groups for people to sit around brainstorming creative ways to mess up keyguard on their next phones. Mark my words... within a year, they'll probably come out with a new Android phone that has Eclair's (awesome) unlock mechanism... then ruin it by making the phone ALSO unlock if you shake it 3 times (with no way to disable it).

miamicanes said:
It's a Sprint CDMA Hero. Try rubbing the screen against your leg through the thin cloth of the pocket liner in a pair of jeans somewhere humid like Florida. Now rub it up and down, over and over, as you sit and stand. It might not happen every time, but do it for a few hours, and it WILL eventually come unlocked.
I suspect it affects Sprint Heros more, because they're flat-faced & chinless, so they're more likely to have their screens come into full capacitive contact with your leg through the pocket.
What? Turn it around? Great. Now, instead of having the screen protected and buttons cushioned by skin (and less likely to be pressed individually) they can get pressed by creases in the jeans, or the seatbelt in your car, or anything else that applies pressure to the area. See, all you have to do on a Sprint Hero to unlock its stupid HTC keyguard is to press menu twice instead of doing a vertical swipe... and the presses don't have to be particularly well-timed, either.
My own phone (using HTC's keyguard) ends up getting unlocked in my pocket AT LEAST 8-10 times per week (sometimes going a day or two without it happening, then making up for lost time with 2 or 3 incidents on a single day).
HTC just has an amazing way of utterly and completely f***ing up keyguard on their phones. No matter what they do, no matter how loudly users scream in agony, they just can't ever get it right. It's almost like they have focus groups for people to sit around brainstorming creative ways to mess up keyguard on their next phone
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not sure what you wear on your lower body but I live in Columbus,Georgia and it is pretty hot and humid there too. I had a hero rom on my phone and still use it sometimes. I wear jeans in public and shorts (not denim shorts but those basketball cloth style shorts) at home and at friend's houses.
I had no accidental unlocks and things of that nature and my phone is all around my pocked.

Well, consider yourself lucky... others aren't quite so fortunate
For what it's worth, I used to crash my Apache/6700 all the time, too. I'd accidentally flip the keyboard open, then realize what I did and immediately react by snapping it shut... often, pressing the 'voice memo' button in the process. For whatever reason, the act of pressing the 'voice memo' button while the display was reorienting itself and snapping it shut before it finished was just about the most reliable way I found to crash it.

Could this be the cheapest 'proper' smartphone watch?

...by 'proper', I mean 'standalone'!
Basically the same as my old Vapirius AX (similar to Rock/Z1) that I've used daily for 2 years, but much cheaper and runs Android 4.1 and it has 320x240 2'' screen and not the square 240x240 1.5'' style of most watches which I can't get on with.
I'm going to order it and check it out. .
Nothing to lose at that price!
http://www.hongkongeek.com/en/smartwatches/5337-20-inches-watch-an1-with-android-41.html
Wearable Smart Phone Watch AN1 2.0" Touch Screen Android 4.1.1 w/ Camera / Wi-Fi - White + Silver - Free Shipping - DealExtreme

Looks like the Neptune Pine...

The AN1 Reviewed (I Think Comprehensively)
Here's what you need to know about the watch, which I've used for several days. It's more a sweet novelty than a gadget of genuine use. But it works. It's basically a mini-tablet phone (or phablet) and functions via the exact same Android protocols, except the master controls are hard, physical buttons built into the left and right sides, rather than soft touch-buttons on or below the screen. And of course the interface is configured to adapt to the tiny size. Yet at two-inches, that screen is a bit big for comfort if you like wearing the watch face on the inside of your wrist (which I do). So I sometimes rotate it to switch position.
Touch sensitivity seems excellent, as well as touch accuracy, which is hugely important given the minuscule QWERTY keyboard that pops up when you need to enter text. Unlocking the startup screen is frustrating at first until you figure out that you have to swipe the icon up or down, not to the side, as on bigger screens. There's no icon or hard control to access the active-apps screen (from which you can toggle back and forth between active apps and turn running apps off); as on certain larger phablets, you get to it by long-pressing the home screen button.
Because the AN1 is small, its WiFi receptivity is modest (the signal is strongest the closer you are to the source). So's volume but it's not bad for the size. You won't hear much through the earphones except in relatively quiet places, unless you have a separate sound booster; but in quiet places it isn't bad. However, it's impossible to attach the earphones one-handed; at least it is for me: You have to hold open the protective soft plastic flap that covers the mini-USB port (which is where they attach), which means you can't wear it while setting that up. That said, the AN1 will also transmit to Bluetooth headsets. And video/audio playback is very smooth. Even impressive, all things considered. Not a gamester, so no idea how gameplay would go. But with a two-inch screen, why would you want to?
Believe it or not, eBook reading is also a very decent experience in either the page or landscape aspect, though for simple eye-to-text positioning, page view works best if you take the watch off and operate it two-handed. In landscape view, though, you can make like **** Tracy. The only reading app I've tried so far is Amazon Kindle, but every feature seems to work per normal. Whatever normal is at that size.
No problem with the phone detecting a SIM card or storage-expansion microSD card (I added the 32G max, which costs all of $10 on eBay). But the cards are tricky to insert, because the lock flaps that secure them in place are so flimsy. However, once they're in, they're in. And insertion of the expansion card is critical, since the Internal Storage provided is write-protected; you won't be able to download (via internet) or sideload (via computer) files or apps without providing extra storage.
The battery is built into the back cover. Comes the time when it no longer holds a charge, one would need a replacement cover. I assume those are available or will be made so eventually.
There's no Playstore app included; plus it's futile to sideload-and-install Playstore from another source, since the app quits as soon as it boots. There is instead the HiMarket app, whose store features mostly Chinese text; but if you know the apps you want/need, you can still enter a search in English and find them -- most of the time. Sideloading and installing other apps also seems to work -- most of the time.
And oh, yeah -- in the "Good safety tip, Egon" department -- don't wear the AN1 (or any other Android watch of similar concept) in inclement weather. With an exposed speaker grille and exposed miniUSB access port (the protective flap doesn't fit snugly), not to mention hard buttons that aren't part of the case proper, bringing this out into very moist air or, worse, active precipitation, would be like putting your iPad in a filling toilet tank to see how high the water has to go before it fries.
Not encountering anything much in the way of buggyness yet. All in all, the AN1 does precisely what it claims to do. And for the conversation-pieceness of it, and frankly, the satisfaction of my curiosity, I'm happy to be an owner. It won't collect dust. But it's not for the customer looking for significant enhancement of his electronic life beyond what he already has.

Thanks for the review.
Also been using the AN1 for a couple of weeks and fairly impressed, but then I've been wearing a similar one for a couple of years and have only that and a conventional phone to compare it with.
Confused what you say about the battery; my AN1 has a battery on the back that can be detached and changed by pressing a small recessed lug/clip. The battery is the same as the old Z1/Rock/Vapirius so is readily available. Are you sure your battery is non-removable?
Also, as it's rooted - although Superuser is not installed - all current Play Store and Google services, sync adapters etc can be side loaded into system/apps, changing permissions the usual way. I am running all the latest Google App stuff now, but you're right about the Chinese Market and I removed it immediately along with anything Baidu related.
My only mild criticism of the watch (I can live with the floppy USB port cover as most mobile phones have no cover whatsoever) is the screen, not the digitizer which as you point out is responsive and works well, but the outside screen. It's scratched badly already and cleaning it makes it even worse. It's almost like a bad plastic. My other smartwatch has been used every day for two years and the screen still looks brand new without protection.
Lesson is get a good screen protector BEFORE even touching it! Although is fairness, the scratches don't really show when the screen is powered.
The sound can be tweaked in the engineering settings (I've forgotten the number/symbol sequence to access those settings right now) and I have managed to get it sufficiently loud to annoy other people listening to a phone conversation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxzycSNQsz4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yjVVHpP1AM
Cheers!

marcusroberts said:
Thanks for the review.
Also been using the AN1 for a couple of weeks and fairly impressed, but then I've been wearing a similar one for a couple of years and have only that and a conventional phone to compare it with.
Confused what you say about the battery; my AN1 has a battery on the back that can be detached and changed by pressing a small recessed lug/clip. The battery is the same as the old Z1/Rock/Vapirius so is readily available. Are you sure your battery is non-removable?
Also, as it's rooted - although Superuser is not installed - all current Play Store and Google services, sync adapters etc can be side loaded into system/apps, changing permissions the usual way. I am running all the latest Google App stuff now, but you're right about the Chinese Market and I removed it immediately along with anything Baidu related.
My only mild criticism of the watch (I can live with the floppy USB port cover as most mobile phones have no cover whatsoever) is the screen, not the digitizer which as you point out is responsive and works well, but the outside screen. It's scratched badly already and cleaning it makes it even worse. It's almost like a bad plastic. My other smartwatch has been used every day for two years and the screen still looks brand new without protection.
Lesson is get a good screen protector BEFORE even touching it! Although is fairness, the scratches don't really show when the screen is powered.
The sound can be tweaked in the engineering settings (I've forgotten the number/symbol sequence to access those settings right now) and I have managed to get it sufficiently loud to annoy other people listening to a phone conversation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxzycSNQsz4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yjVVHpP1AM
Cheers!
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all good and great but remember its running android 2.x!

cylent said:
all good and great but remember its running android 2.x!
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No. The AN1 is running 4.1.1. The older Vapirius watch I mentioned is running 2.1.

with the z1 smartwatch / Vapirius they stopped with the clean rom I would like to see a custom rom for this :fingers-crossed:

I found this clone of Galaxy Gear and it's even cheaper at $85.99 !?
http://vifocal.com/mobile-phones/ot...-2-os-dual-core-wifi-fm-1-54-inch-screen.html
And a review for it:
http://www.quadcoremobiles.com/2014...ewgalaxy-gear-clone-dual-core-android-4-2-os/

Wasn't the Galaxy Gear a fail.

Specs'
acb123 said:
I found this clone of Galaxy Gear and it's even cheaper at $85.99 !?
http://vifocal.com/mobile-phones/ot...-2-os-dual-core-wifi-fm-1-54-inch-screen.html
And a review for it:
http://www.quadcoremobiles.com/2014...ewgalaxy-gear-clone-dual-core-android-4-2-os/
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For $85.99 you get: +$15 delivery to UK
8MP Camera
Android 4.2 OS
Thickness is about 8-9mm
MTK6572 Dual core processor, 512M RAM+4G ROM
350mAh Battery
E-Compass, Direction, acceleration, temperature,pressure, ambient temperature and linear acceleration sensor
Not bad. I wonder if its splash proof?
** More importantly, can you use Play Store? Anyone? **

simple1i said:
For $85.99 you get: +$15 delivery to UK
8MP Camera
Android 4.2 OS
Thickness is about 8-9mm
MTK6572 Dual core processor, 512M RAM+4G ROM
350mAh Battery
E-Compass, Direction, acceleration, temperature,pressure, ambient temperature and linear acceleration sensor
Not bad. I wonder if its splash proof?
** More importantly, can you use Play Store? Anyone? **
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This isn't a Play Store compatible device. Also, looking at the pictures, the apps are proprietary.
Some Android devices, especially Chinese ones that I've used, Google Services aren't installed and have been done so manually in order to get all the Android features.
This isn't one of them.

I can give the firmware for the AN1 if someone would like to make a custom rom.

marcusroberts said:
This isn't a Play Store compatible device. Also, looking at the pictures, the apps are proprietary.
Some Android devices, especially Chinese ones that I've used, Google Services aren't installed and have been done so manually in order to get all the Android features.
This isn't one of them.
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Shame hey.
All those sensors are useless if there's no app for it.

sensors

They've caught on to a great idea, but it seems pretty pointless as said before. Hopefully there will be some improvements in the (less expensive) range of android wear.

google apps
with the z1 i used gapps install zip and gapps copy zip.You guys that have the AN1 do you have these for this watch or can you point me to the place to get them.

1bluemax said:
with the z1 i used gapps install zip and gapps copy zip.You guys that have the AN1 do you have these for this watch or can you point me to the place to get them.
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Details on how to load all the Google stuff onto the AN1 and most other similar Chinese devices are here (reply#7):
http://linuxslate.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1399895851
These are the steps:
Here are my instructions for putting all the correct Google Play stuff and thereby having a full non-Chinese Android. Remember to totally uninstall all the Chinese Market and Baidu.
Download the files from here:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/56ppcal1t9dwm6g/AACubjVgwQIcFjVv0_wvo05na
1. Use Root Explorer
2. Copy GoogleServicesFramework.apk, GoogleLoginService.apk and Google_Play-v3.8.17.apk to the system/app folder on your phone with Root Explorer.
3. In Root Explorer click Mount R/W. Change the permissions of the 3 files to match the permissions of the other files in the folder rw-r--r-- (6-4-4). Then click Mount R/O and exit Root Explorer.
4. Install GoogleCalendarSyncAdapter and GoogleContactsSyncAdapter the usual app way.
5. Reboot your phone. Hard reset is not necessary.
6. Go to Accounts & Sync in your phone's settings, click Add account and enter your Google/GMail account details.
7. Go to your apps and Launch Google Play.
8. Update any Google stuff from Play Store if prompted.
I'll do a vid of this sometime.
Good luck!
Marcus

Thanks for the info.:good:

AN1 Battery Clarification
Hey, Marcus -
Sorry to take so long to reply.
When I said the AN1 battery was non-removable, I meant that the back of the AN1 watch IS the battery, for all intents and purposes, and is the battery housing, not a mini-case into which a battery could fit. Yes, as you say, it's removable via the lug-clip and that gives you access to the card slots. But I didn't know one could buy a replacement; the lug-clip architecture is so specific to the watch build that I thought an AN1 battery replacement would have to be sold as a locked-to-the-model accessory. (Well, until today; trolling around eBay I saw a Z1 battery/back panel replacement for sale and kind of assumed it would fit the AN1. But it was $39 which struck me as high, so I didn't purchase. I'll do a broader search for Z1 replacements now, though. If you know of where they can be gotten cheaply, chime in.)

No Real Need for Rooting
By the way ...
Even though the AN1 isn't Play Store compatible, I've been able to load everything on it that I need. I either find direct links to download the APKs desired, or APK store links that bring me to the APK. In any event, sideloading from my computer is easy, then I just use File Manager to open the apps. If the apps don't work, I uninstall them. Most of them do. And there are so many choices that you can eventually have it doing everything you desire of it. (Beasr in mind, it's not really practical to install anything too unique or fancy on the watch because of its screen size; it's best for basic utilities that let you play videos, read books, manage calendar data, email, facebook, etc. And it does all that handily. Sometimes not with apps that work on your larger Android devices; but it doesn't take much time at all to find something that'll do the job as well in miniature.)