[Q] help me understand the root world a little more - Verizon Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm trying to learn more about the S5 root world. I am currently running the OTA NHA build, and am rooted using towelroot, and have the latest safestrap installed (also have supersu and busybox). What i am trying to understand is how the custom rom's work now. I just got the S4, and never had my bootloader locked since i rooted/rom'd earlier on and never ran stock, and i was using TWRP so there were no rom slots or the like; you downloaded a rom, wiped your phone, flashed it, done.
This bootloader/kernel/baseband talk is what's confusing me. A question that i've been trying to find the answer for is as such: let's say i have my NHA rooted phone, but there is an NE9 rom on the forum i want to try (extreme syndicate/alliance). Can i just flash that to a rom slot and go, or do i flash the kernel as well? if i flash the kernel, won't that mess with my stock rom, or does that just patch the kernel inside of the rom slot?
I already understand that chronologically, the baseband/build versions are NCG>NE9>NHA>NI2, so understand that rom's baseband is a version behind NHA. Someone please help clarify some of this for me

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[Q] Root using ioRoot25?

Hey everyone!
I just got my AT&T G2 last night.. I like the phone, but really want to root and ROM, coming from a gnex.. its a bit bloated to me
Anyway, it was 4.4.2 out of the box with firmware verison, D80020c. Originally I thought I would need to revert to stock firmware D80010d? However now I have been told I can just use ioRoot25 and then flash Cloudyfa's AutoRec recovery? Is that correct?
I'm going to get at this, this afternoon but obviously it would save a lot of work if I could just use ioRoot25 but as I said, I want a custom recovery also so I can flash a non-stock rom.
Please let me know what would work, and what works best.. Thanks, Chris.
I've went ahead and downloaded supersports tool to revert to stock D80010d. I haven't actually ran it yet, because I want to wait on input from people in this thread. However, it seems like rooting with ioRoot on D80010d, flashing custom recovery, and than flashing a ROM would be the way to go.. It is my understand that currently it is no yet possible with KK to have custom recoveries? Being on stock KK doesn't do anything for me anyway.. I'll probably just flash a asop based ROM running 4.4.2 anyway and go that way with it.. So it would work like this..
Currently on D80020c (KK) --> Revert to stock, D80010d (JB) --> Root using ioRoot (any verison would work I guess?) --> ADB flash over either CWR, TWRP, or Philz recovery? --> Get some 4.4 based rom with gapps, flash it and all is well? Then I will be rooted and romed with a kitkat based rom correct? And all in time for the weekend?? lol.
Right on. Use ioroot25, but apart from that you've got it all figured out. You're right there is no recovery for pure kk because they patched the Loki exploit, but there are work arounds. Everything you need to know about rooting and flashing had been covered here so just go ahead and do your thing and enjoy your new phone :good:

Can I install CWM on the GS4?

Hello, I've been out of the rooting scene for over a year now since I bought my Galaxy S4. When I first bought it, i had it rooted but could not install a custom rom because it was on MF3. So, once again I am trying to get back into rooting with the latest OTA update and a NC1 baseband. I've been looking around on how to root and install a custom rom but I've been gone so long that I'm just lost.
From threads I have read I can downgrade my phone to NB1 then to MK2 to root. However, I haven't really been able to find an answer to if I can install a custom rom to it, only upgrading back to the OTA and keeping root. I have been having massive overheating problems with the stock firmware and have a large burn mark on the back of my phone and would like to switch back to CWM which i had on an old phone.
Laemon said:
Hello, I've been out of the rooting scene for over a year now since I bought my Galaxy S4. When I first bought it, i had it rooted but could not install a custom rom because it was on MF3. So, once again I am trying to get back into rooting with the latest OTA update and a NC1 baseband. I've been looking around on how to root and install a custom rom but I've been gone so long that I'm just lost.
From threads I have read I can downgrade my phone to NB1 then to MK2 to root. However, I haven't really been able to find an answer to if I can install a custom rom to it, only upgrading back to the OTA and keeping root. I have been having massive overheating problems with the stock firmware and have a large burn mark on the back of my phone and would like to switch back to CWM which i had on an old phone.
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No CWM. You can only use Safestrap, a variant of TWRP for locked bootloaders that doesn't flash kernels. Due to that restriction (if we tried to flash a custom kernel we'd get bootloader check fails) we can only run ROMs which the stock kernel supports, meaning other Touchwiz ROMs and the one GPE that's been posted in the General section. Part of the downgrade and root process is using Safestrap to update to 4.4.2 with a modified OTA, and so you just replace that step with flashing a ROM, the kernel modules, and then the ODIN files.

[Q] Xposed on locked bootloader and Rolling back questions

Hello all,
I recently installed 5.0.1 rooted on galaxy s4 I337 using muniz's method and had some questions?
The main reason I rooted was to try to get xposed so I can edit the ui, I understand that it is not working on samsung devices right now, but when it does work, I understand the only way to install it is using a custom recovery.
Since I have a locked bootloader and am on 5.0.1 I don't think there is a way to get a custom recovery on here, correct me if I'm wrong.
How would I install the xposed framework? Will flashfire be able to load it?
Also, if I were to revert back to the stock NB1 build, can I re-root and install clockworkmod (would LOKI work then?) on it and then go to a custom rom like cynogenmod or are there problems with this because I already have updated all the way to 5.0.1? (I've done this rollback through ODIN before and it's not too bad.)
I'm new to android modding so this has been a learning experience.
Thanks
Once upgraded to the locked bootloaders, there is no going back to loki. You can downgrade from 5.0.1 to 4.4.2, but you can only use safestrap recovery, and only touchwiz based firmware. Also, safestrap doesn't work on 5.0.1 yet. From what I have read, with 5.0.1 you'll have to wait and see what the developers come up with. If you care to learn more about the history of bootloaders, there is lots of info in these forums.
Engitheneer said:
Hello all,
I recently installed 5.0.1 rooted on galaxy s4 I337 using muniz's method and had some questions?
The main reason I rooted was to try to get xposed so I can edit the ui, I understand that it is not working on samsung devices right now, but when it does work, I understand the only way to install it is using a custom recovery.
Since I have a locked bootloader and am on 5.0.1 I don't think there is a way to get a custom recovery on here, correct me if I'm wrong.
How would I install the xposed framework? Will flashfire be able to load it?
Also, if I were to revert back to the stock NB1 build, can I re-root and install clockworkmod (would LOKI work then?) on it and then go to a custom rom like cynogenmod or are there problems with this because I already have updated all the way to 5.0.1? (I've done this rollback through ODIN before and it's not too bad.)
I'm new to android modding so this has been a learning experience.
Thanks
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If xposed ever is updated to support Lollipop Touchwiz, you'll be able to flash it using Flashfire or using the Safestrap workaround (flash 4.4 kernel so you can get into safestrap, flash files, then flash 5.0 kernel). There's no way to go back to CWM or TWRP past the old MF3 4.2.2 update, which has long come and gone now.

[Q] Firmware - ROM Question

So I have a GS5 on KitKat running NI2 Firmware and Build. I Flashed Ricks ROM and am loving it! Big ups to the Dev on that. However, the whole reason that I Rooted my phone was to try out custom ROMs and my question is if I wanted allianceROM on my phone, I'm currently on Ni2 instead of Ne9. Could I only change the firmware and not the entire build to Ne9 and then flash the AllianceROM? I know after all these years, I should know this by now however, I just waited for in this case an Ni2 rom build to be released then flash it. Is there a way to try any of the builds within kitkat?
I know that the phone needs an update to try Lolipop, but not willing to give up on my perfectly running kitkat Rom (just yet)
Any help is very much appriciated!
mrneoz81 said:
So I have a GS5 on KitKat running NI2 Firmware and Build. I Flashed Ricks ROM and am loving it! Big ups to the Dev on that. However, the whole reason that I Rooted my phone was to try out custom ROMs and my question is if I wanted allianceROM on my phone, I'm currently on Ni2 instead of Ne9. Could I only change the firmware and not the entire build to Ne9 and then flash the AllianceROM? I know after all these years, I should know this by now however, I just waited for in this case an Ni2 rom build to be released then flash it. Is there a way to try any of the builds within kitkat?
I know that the phone needs an update to try Lolipop, but not willing to give up on my perfectly running kitkat Rom (just yet)
Any help is very much appriciated!
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Odin the NE9 firmware, boot into safestrap recovery before your phone boots all the way up, then install the NE9 ROM ( which should already be downloaded onto your phone). Don't forget to wipe first.

Note 4 Issues When Flashing Roms, Please Help

My younger brother has a Note 4. It was previously on Kitkat 4.4.2, stock rom, rooted with dual recovery...
He wanted to manually update to either a 5.1.1 Lollipop rom or even 6.01 Marshmallow.
After having tried several 6.01 roms, the phone either bootloops or the sim card is not reading...
After having trying to flash the radio & bootloader to flash via odin, it keeps failing when trying to do so.
Could someone please recommend a simple Lollipop rom or Marshmallow rom that actually WORKS and the sim card is read as it should?
With my current Sony Z2, it is so much simpler, flashing any roms automatically comes with the kernal, radio, recovery, root, etc...
With Samsung it is much more complex and finding a rom which comes with everything seems difficult to find.
Some roms even ask to choose a kernel & modem/radio. How the F**K do i know which one I need? Even when selecting one it results in a bootloop.
I'm not interested in overclocking or using a custom kernel. I just want something that works and any 5.1.1 rom or Marshmallow rom would do. I want something as close as stock as possible. Not interested in Cyanogen mod, custom roms or such.
Thanks!!
you need to flash a compatible modem for your model number and version of android. If it helps, I'm using: N910FXXUICOL2 with Marshmallow
I have the N910F model.
Hmm, I don't know why you are having problems, actually its Samsung where you can simply flash a ROM with Odin, no need of ADB or anything.
You just make sure that you COMPLETELY WIPE your phone before flashing a stock ROM via Odin. You should not have any problem at all, no one should, unless its hardware.

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