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[Q] Does flashing *.sbf files brick the Defy?

Today my friend, who also has a Defy, called me up and told me that he bricked his Defy (motherboard failure according to him) because he flashed *sbf files about 4-5 times.
Is this true that this happens if we flash sbf files too many times? Because I've flashed sbf files about 6-7 times since I purchased my Defy (because it was soft bricked)
Please answer.....
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which sbf did he install?
Tell him to install official Indian Froyo 2.2.2 from http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/HRXSSAXE/

Nope... I flashed sbf quite a few times...
But then I have not tried new 2.3.6 sbf... so hopefully ur friend hasn't flashed that...
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popcorn1122 said:
which sbf did he install?
Tell him to install official Indian Froyo 2.2.2 from http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/HRXSSAXE/
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He actually managed to get his phone repaired from the service center. It was hard bricked as per him.
I was just wondering that what he said about flashing *.sbf files was correct...
anil944 said:
Nope... I flashed sbf quite a few times...
But then I have not tried new 2.3.6 sbf... so hopefully ur friend hasn't flashed that...
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He said that he had tried ROMs like MS2GINGER but I don't know whether he flashed the 2.3.6 sbf. I never flashed any of the Gingerbread sbf files. And even I have flashed Nordic repeatedly because of soft bricking as mentioned above. Just wondering whether doing this again and again would take me into the same situation as him....

Flashing over and over again won't do any harm (using the phone causes more stress to the flash memory cells than flashing it).
The worst things that can happen are:
- you are flashing a non-downgradeable image (but then your phone would still work)
- you are running out of battery while writing the image: In this case your phone might not be able to charge the battery again. but even then: you can charge the battery using the mc-guyver method. (cut off the plug of some usb cable and attach it directly to the battery)

Hard unlock Sim

I have asked to my telecoms operator the unsimlock code for my Defy, it said is yet unlocked but it is not
I have flash a full sbf 2.3.6. Before it was a 2.3.4.
Motorola can't give any code.
Is there a way to show to the operator that is still locked? Or a non paid way to have the unlock code (it's free with my operator)
I know that is a way to have a soft unock but only with cm7 or miui.
But i prefer a hard unlock for motorola rom.
THX.
Defy+ / 4.5.1-134_DFP-139 / 45.0.1390.MB526.Retail.en.FR
Bouygues telecom fr.

Always complain in a retail center. Take your defy, show him, let him call to services. Be persistent, not rude.
Indeed you could use a softunlock for CM7 or MIUI, don't know if you could for stock.

Thx for the answer. I have try this morning the softunlock with cm7 Nightly ( the only one cm7 i can install) but don't work . I think that the softunlock is only for 2.2.

Could you please try to install the nightly again and then flash the zip from my latest post on that threat?
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The zip
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=908455&d=1329605492

Also you can try to write at russian forum - motofan.ru ( i'm not able to post link there...)
Just write IMEI and your model to them, probably you'll receive unlock code.
If you won't, only way is patch.

labsin said:
Could you please try to install the nightly again and then flash the zip from my latest post on that threat?
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Thx. i have try but don't work anymore. I have flashed the cm7 zip, then, before reboot, flashed your zip. Trying to change baseband too but don't work.

Hellmanor said:
If you won't, only way is patch.
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Yes, but for the moment not possible to find any patch for 2.3

Witch CM7 version are you using? Could you attach the files in defy_simlock_originals on your sdcard?

Could do the froyo for bl6 patch it from there and re install cm7
teamwork makes the dream work

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Witch CM7 version are you using?
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cm72-120127.0846-NIGHTLY-Defy+.zip
others don't work because of a 2.3.6 full sbf.
labsin said:
Could you attach the files in defy_simlock_originals on your sdcard?
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Sorry but i don't understand what you want to say.
Could do the froyo for bl6 patch it from there and re install cm7
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Do you mean to follow this way below? But i'm afraid this way don't work with Defy+?
Common Problems/Questions
Black Screens when booting up: (!) Tried to install a version of Android with a lower CG Version than the one currently on the phone.
Weird behavior after installing a Fixed SBF: Install a matching Nandroid backup with your SBF, and remember to clear Cache/Dalvik Cache using Recovery.
Installed full Gingerbread SBF and can’t go back to another rom: (!) aha! We have a issue here!, latest Stock Gingerbread full SBFs comes with a Version 5 of the CG, meaning until not long ago you were pretty much screwed. But wait, there is hope! A one kind Éclair has been found in China Defys that comes with Version 5 CG!.
How to fix it:
Download this SBF and Flash it
Root your Phone
Download 2nd Init 1.4.2 and Install ClockworkMod Recovery
Download and install this Nandroid Backup
Enter Recovery, Wipe Data/Cache
After wiping, turn off your phone
Turn it on and get immediately into Bootloader mode
Flash this Fixed SBF
Delete Data/Cache again and reboot.
You WONT be able to install full SBFs of any Éclair or Froyo since these Androids have lower CG Versions.
**NOTE*: I just rephrased the original post since it can be a bit confusing, it is linked as source below.
**NOTE2**: If you are using a non-Chinese defy, DO NOT USE THE CAMERA FLASH while on the Chinese rom, it WILL kill your LED.
Source: ((Original post here))
How to Install CM7 after Installing a Full Gingerbread SBF: (!) Ok, first of all do all the steps above on "Installed full Gingerbread SBF and can’t go back to another rom"
Root your Defy (Using SuperOneClick 1.7 and not 1.9).
Install SystemRecovery from GoAPK. If you install 2nd init, you'll just get into a boot loop and have to start over.
Reboot to recovery. Do a factory wipe, then do the cache wipe.
Install CM7 .Zip and then gapps zip file. DO NOT wipe again, you'll just go back to 2.2.2 CEE (if you accidentally do this, you can pick up again from step 3).
profit!
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Yes it works with Defy+ if you are on a bld6 rom (not for the bld7 roms)
My patch from a couple posts back makes a copy of the patched file on your sdcard in the folder defy_simlock_originals. Could you post them here?
Don't know if the module works with the gingerbread kernel. That's why it is a good idea to try to get CM7 with froyo kernel. It's also handy if you wan't to install other roms (WIUI ...)
But could you fist give those files? Maybe i've made a mistake again ^^.
Edit:
Sorry you don't have the right guide. That one is for bld5 downgrade.
Here is for bld6: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1486731

labsin said:
My patch from a couple posts back makes a copy of the patched file on your sdcard in the folder defy_simlock_originals.Could you post them here?
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Again, thank you for your help and time
(I have put .txt for upload)

The file is similar to the normal defy one as far as I can tell that must have done it... So prob. faullt of different kernel. You could try to downgrade and use CM7 on froyo kernel.

labsin said:
The file is similar to the normal defy one as far as I can tell that must have done it... So prob. faullt of different kernel. You could try to downgrade and use CM7 on froyo kernel.
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Ok i'll try tomorrow

labsin said:
The file is similar to the normal defy one as far as I can tell that must have done it... So prob. faullt of different kernel. You could try to downgrade and use CM7 on froyo kernel.
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I have change the kernel with THIS METHOD
after, try with WIUI 2.2.17: no network; then with update-cm-7.1.0-11-Defy-signed: no network, even when changing baseband.
So, if all that i have made is right, maybe it's not fault of kernel.
Other difference between MB526 and MB525?

You get 'no network' all the time, even with the sim from the right provider, also without the patch?
I think you're the fist to try on a defy+. Maybe look to the Russian fora...
edit: And can you tell me what your Baseband version is? (in settings > about)
edit2: If it is EPU93_U_00.59.01 Try it after installing RC1.5 from here: http://www.defy-cm.net/jordan-cm7.1-RC/

labsin said:
You get 'no network' all the time, even with the sim from the right provider, also without the patch?
I think you're the fist to try on a defy+. Maybe look to the Russian fora...
edit: And can you tell me what your Baseband version is? (in settings > about)
edit2: If it is EPU93_U_00.59.01 Try it after installing RC1.5 from here: http://www.defy-cm.net/jordan-cm7.1-RC/
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no network only with wrong provider: with the patch no code ask, but no network even with other baseband.
Yes it is EPU93_U_00.59.01 (cm7.2 working on defy+ as well)
with RC1.5 no boot after files install, stuck on google logo.
Now i have flash fix sbf to use 2.3.6 rom because of no battery problems and better battery life. So i'll wait and ask again to my operator.
Now baseband is EPU_U_00.60.03
Do you think if i'm able to put a official operator rom it will see that is no desimlocked? i don't have made backup of my official rom (newbie mistake ) so i have ask here if it's possible with this method.

Blocking by TI OMAP 3630
I have read this:
Blocking the Bootloader by TI OMAP 3630
Why and how is it locked Defy?
While Linux is Open Source Motorola keeps the Defy the locked bootloader. Why?
For commercial reasons of course: avoid too many warranty returns from sorcerer's apprentices who brické their phone, for example (although care is denied you still have to manage the folders!) But also the traders (who manage some of the guaranteed returns, but not that ... we shall see below).
So Motorola maintains bootoader of our favorite phone is not locked and ready to unlock the last views of Roma making the switch to SBF rootage and even more difficult. But the fact how this lock is it made?
Unlike other phones (other brands, but also other brand models *) easy to unlock, the Defy is equipped with a TI OMAP 3630 chip that manages its technology via "M-Shield technology 'in this block. So we did not do a software problem but rather a problem if one CPU is addressing this release.
This technology also manages the simlockage phone which also explains why the operators are far from favorable to the release of Defy.
No one arrived today to crack this lock: it should have the tool from Texas Instruments where he provided to authorized repairers to put the Motorola Defy mode "SE" (Systems Engineering) for this.
* These phones using Qualcomm chips or other, do not bénéfiecient techonologie the M-Shield and are much easier to unlock.
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(Google trad) Or here in french

stucked at jrdan u97.21.51
I am new at this my defy went dead when tried to upgrade to 2.2 did not have backup. I searched the web and only jrdan u 97.21.51 will work and canot go back or change any more to any other roms. tried the rsd lite to flash diferent roms and nothing works. tried rom manager and 2ndinit recovery and nothing i get black screen. Is there anyway to get out of this? Please help

sion123 said:
I am new at this my defy went dead when tried to upgrade to 2.2 did not have backup. I searched the web and only jrdan u 97.21.51 will work and canot go back or change any more to any other roms. tried the rsd lite to flash diferent roms and nothing works. tried rom manager and 2ndinit recovery and nothing i get black screen. Is there anyway to get out of this? Please help
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Wrong thread i think.
Have you try a wipe cache and data in stock recovery before rsdlite? see here how to do with Froyo

how to unbrick defy

this only for defy red lens using defy plus sbf that cant be downgrade.
since i cant post on dev section i'll will share my exprience with my brick defy
it was just few hour ago my phone was brick....and i already try many sbf that available on many site still no hope....finally i realize that the main problem on my phone was the bootloader...cause all the problem that make my phone cannot boot up even on bootloader mode....so i download sbf with bl7,flash it with rsd lite 5.7 and.....tadaaa my phone rise from its dead now i am enjoy with my defy again......
so the main problem on our defy is the bootloader that make our phone dead so dont ever mess with sbf if u dont really know the bootloader
hope this will help any of u people

help me
i also have same problem with u,can u give me the link to donwload sbf with bl7

If you can't boot, flash a sbf with the same bl nr than the last one you flashed and just wipe data from stock recovery. You don't have to go to the bl 7 ROM if you didn't already flash one. You even don't have to flash any bl4+ ROM on your normal defy. You can do everything from the bl4 bootloader, just flash the defy + kernel in cwm and afterwards your ROM
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help me
im stuck at bootloader 9.10,i cant go to stock recovery,i already flash many sbf,but nothing happened,im using defy cm 7,please help me

defy 101 said:
i also have same problem with u,can u give me the link to donwload sbf with bl7
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just to be sure if u using defyplus and already update it using motorola software update u already in bl7....so u must use bl7 sbf to make ur phone live again
right now i cant post a link i just can give u a name for google it
DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-188_TMOUK_SIGN_SIGNED_USADEFYEMARAB1B8TMDE011.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNGIBRTMDE_P028_A028_M008_HWp3_WIG148402_Service1FF.sbf.gz
this the same sbf i use to bring my defy live again
hope this will help u...
dont forget the thank button if i help u hehe

defy 101 said:
im stuck at bootloader 9.10,i cant go to stock recovery,i already flash many sbf,but nothing happened,im using defy cm 7,please help me
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this only for those have problem after flash many sbf still get black screen with white led after finish flashing sbf....
you must make sure what BL you use before brick ur phone
in my case i really sure my BL is BL7

odystyle said:
this only for those have problem after flash many sbf still get black screen with white led after finish flashing sbf....
you must make sure what BL you use before brick ur phone
in my case i really sure my BL is BL7
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the main key is know ur BL and get the right Sbf then u can revive ur phone with no problem

but when u get S blank flash....just start to think buy another phone or get ur phone on service center and replace a new board

got a defy, what do i need to flash custom rom?

hi people,
i have a SE x10 mini and its flashed with latest naa kernal and CM7mini.
im swapping it for a motorola defy tomorrow and just want some general answers if possible.
i see on the cm7 instructions it says *Flash froyo* then from clockwork install the .zip. ( similar to x10 mini )
but what steps do i need to take once i get the phone?
do i need to root it first then install a custom recovery first? or can i just chuck the CM7.zip on the sd card and flash?
im a little confused as i have only owned this x10 mini and i know how to flash kernals etc to this phone, just confused with the motorola
any help would be appreciated
regards

come on, at least look at the big Q & A threads before burdening others. I saying this to you instead of answering your questin, so that you at least give the matter some attention yourselves.
May the search be with you!

lol,
i have been reading up.
im not sure on this froyo, eclair etc
how would i know what i have when i get it?
will it say froyo in settings?
with the x10mini its all pretty much easy, no need to find what version or anything, just download cm7mini flash naa and flash.
so im a little confused with the defy,
ive been reading up and understand enough,
but i take it the steps i take is
To root the phone
install the 2ins app to install recovery
then flash cm9?
or do i need to use RSD lite to flash the froyo rom first?
reading the faq is pretty straight forward but i havnt seen the phone yet ( played around with it) so im not sure of the version etc.
im in the uk

in settings it provide ur the Android version. 2.2.2 is froyo... but ... that's not the only problem. from were u buy the phone? reseller or from private
Jelly powered.Defy

From a shop. Swapping it
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ok than ur don't had a problem with the bootloader! it's not that easy as for ur x10mini cause the locked bl in the defy.
in general section is a thread there u find 'custom' sbf files, that u can flash with rsd light. it's the easiest way to get a good ROM on the defy, in only one step. the files are all rooted and with 2nd init. from that point u easy can flash other ROM through CWM, only beware for higher bootloader. ur defy is maximum bl5 I think.
Jelly powered.Defy
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link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1691901
Edit2: and before u ask, we don't can flash custom kernel, only custom ROM.

how do i find out what bl# i have?
will it say in rsd lite?
regards

dreamz12345 said:
how do i find out what bl# i have?
will it say in rsd lite?
regards
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No, rsdlite cant say ur the bl version,
ur can use the tool u find in that post
and if ur dont speak chinese in that post u have the answer for the cryptic buttons :good:

First of all, what kind of defy will you get?
Defy, Defy+ or Defy Mini?
The steps to install a custom rom are very easy.
1. root your defy
2 install cwm
3. make a nandroid backup with cwm
4. download the Rom you want to install
5. reboot into cwm and install the Rom.
This is a short instruction. For details instruction go to the Defy developments threads. There you find detailed instructions, and how to install custom Roms.
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It depends on which rom that you want to install and if you have green or red lense (because of the kernel).
But you will find these infos in the instructions of the rom thread.

Help with my TMO US Defy

"bricked" my Tmobile US defy while working with 2ndinit. I'm sort of noobish I read the instructions and got everything I needed but apparently something went wrong. I beleive I need an SBF file to reset everything. The thing is this forum is old and links are dead everywhere I look. Any help would be welcome. my device was runnin on stock tmobile eclair version 1. I tried a factory reset on stock recovery but no go and I dont have any custom recovery.
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axel2230 said:
"bricked" my Tmobile US defy while working with 2ndinit. I'm sort of noobish I read the instructions and got everything I needed but apparently something went wrong. I beleive I need an SBF file to reset everything. The thing is this forum is old and links are dead everywhere I look. Any help would be welcome. my device was runnin on stock tmobile eclair version 1. I tried a factory reset on stock recovery but no go and I dont have any custom recovery.
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If all else fails, flashing an SBF with RSDlite should work; it's the one advantage of having a locked bootloader. Check the all-in-one guide for details, esp. on efuse/CG levels if you want to be able to fully revert to the stock eclair.
The problem at this point will be finding an SBF file, as it appears the droid-developers archive is no longer working...

Yeah. Thanks I already fixed mine.
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