[Q] why do you need mobile provider for wifi calling - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

maybe i'm missing something but WIFi is everywhere, so why do we need a mobile service provider to make WIFI calls? in many places is free.
why can there be a way to rout your calls through a open or home wifi network to make call?

Uhh, you dont need a service provider for wifi calls. If that were the case, wifi tablets couldnt make wifi calls.You just need to find a wifi calling service that is by someone other than your cellular service provider. Hangouts now has this, skype, google voice, and many others.

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EDGE & GPRS on call

Hey all,
As far as I understand; when you are on GPRS you can't make a call or receive because it ties up the line.
Does the same apply with EDGE? I don't think it does with 3G but my network just went EDGE over GPRS (o2) so I wondered about the 'new' technology.
Thanks for the advice
it dont apply to any of them unless thats a limit of the phone company one is connected because they have limited equipment
Rudegar said:
it dont apply to any of them unless thats a limit of the phone company one is connected because they have limited equipment
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I always thought it did; I used to be Vodafone UK; I started on one of there GPRS phones & couldn't attempt or rec calls, I then moved up to 3G, again on Vodafone & I could run 2 sessions of them easy. It would't be to do with the 3G networks having there own network settings? for example, the 3G phone would give me the option to connect to 2G or 3G when I first turn it on or change networks.
i use GPRS it dont block anything for me
only tech which really block 100% is the old callup modem data calls
which also only operate at something like 9600Boud
GPRS Data Call
Hello, i´ve been trying to find an answer to a problem while calling through GPRS with VoIP using WM6VoIP.cab released here in xda-developers. I can make the call, it rings in the other side, but no sound for either users... There is no sound at all, like if the phone was off. On the other hand, i use the same system to call while connected to a WiFi Lan, and it works perfectly! What could be happenning to me? I use Vodafone, and i´ve also tried it with Yoigo which uses Vodafone network...
I´d really appreciate your help!
tildesley said:
Hey all,
As far as I understand; when you are on GPRS you can't make a call or receive because it ties up the line.
Does the same apply with EDGE? I don't think it does with 3G but my network just went EDGE over GPRS (o2) so I wondered about the 'new' technology.
Thanks for the advice
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GPRS and EDGE are basically the same thing with respect to blocking voice calls.
Old GPRS implementations (can't remember which class - wikipedia is your friend) would block incoming calls - but newer implementations shouldn't. The only thing is when you have active calls, GPRS is suspended.
But I heard that the radio firmwares and equipment of the telco would make a difference.
When I had my Treo 750, I always had a GPRS connection. If there was any data activity going on, incoming calls would go to voicemail. Very irritating, especially when using Direct Push for email.
With my old Blackberry Pearl, and my new Tilt, I always have an EDGE connection, and do not have the issue.
Hope this helps...

Calls sent to Voicemail if Data is Active

I have an unlocked Hero on the o2 network in the UK.
I have been noticing that a lot of calls are diverting straight to voicemail without ringing. It appears that this occurs while in a 2G Network Area.
2G Networks cannot cope with both Data and Voice calls at the same - so if, as you would expect on a "Smart Phone", a data connection is active - i.e. Push Email, Updating Twitter, Facebook or streaming Radio - then you are unable to receive calls!
This is not an issue on a 3G Network.
I have read that a phone should be able to terminate the Data connection if a Phone Call is coming through. It would appear that the HTC Hero does not do this - incidentally I have read of similar issues on the iPhone.
Has anyone found any solution to this? Is there anyway to ensure that the Data Connection IS terminated when necessary?
Thanks in advance.
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It's not the phone that terminates the connection, it's the network. When it knows it needs to route a call to a phone which has an active data connection, it should terminate the data connection, or at least suspend it (HTC's are capable of this if commanded) and then route the call through.
Networks that route through to voice mail without ringing are not doing this, they are simply routing straight to voice mail without bothering to try and contact the phone.
Nothing you can do about it apart from keeping data turned off whenever you are not using it.

Incoming Phone during data connection

With my older phone, if I have a GPRS data connection, incoming voice calls will be rejected (busy). I was told it is the same with all phones.
Can HD2 make or accept a voice phone call when it has a GRPS connection? Or an HSPA connect? With the My Location, Weather, and Direct Push, I can neve tell when my phone has a data connection. Does it mean I may be missing calls all the time?
I have no problems with my telco. They will "downgrade" my data connection whenever a call is coming thru.
Nope - works fine for me. Will be using MSN and then a phone call will over ride it
alex fung said:
I was told it is the same with all phones.
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Somebody didn't know what they were talking about! You've been misinformed mate
alex fung said:
With my older phone, if I have a GPRS data connection, incoming voice calls will be rejected (busy). I was told it is the same with all phones.
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what phone would do that? You wouldn't happen to be with Verizon before, would you? My gf has a blackberry on verizon and whenever she's using the net incoming call would be rejected. I don't know any gsm phone would do that. I've had 5-6 GSM phones and they would allow incoming call and suspend your current web until the call ended.
Well, voice calls are made on a certain frequencies and data connections are made on others.
Ex: in my country the data connection is on the 1900/2100 freq, while the voice calls are on the rest.
So it should never be a problem. I believe its also the ability of the phone to use different freq for different tasks.
Thanks. I can now use the data connections without worry
Why not you try yourself. COnnect to data constantly and make a call to your number. What will happen...?
3G and GPRS/Edge won't block calls. But you can still use old fashion data-call. While I doubt any provider would provide data connectivity this way, I can't rule it out.

VOIP Calls on T-MOBILE (UK) 3g network using HD2

I have found problems while making VOIP calls using SIP (soft phone) software on t-mobile, UK 3g network.
I got various sip client installed my HTC HD2. They all are working very well on wifi connection. But not working at all on t-mobile UK 3g network. I get registration failed error.
I found following link (https://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/terms-and-conditions/combi/) in which they have mentioned that
<b>
"you can't use your phone as a modem or use internet Plus for peer to peer file sharing, or making internet phone calls. *[Internet] Plus comes with a fair use policy of 3GB a month."</b>
So I am wondering whether T-mobile is blocking my access to connect to my VOIP provider. Although, I can use skype mobile on t-mobile 3g network to make skype to skype calls.
Guys,
Is there anyone who is able to make VOIP call using t-mobile, uk 3g network or any of the other UK provider? If yes, then please help me to figure out what’s wrong in my settings.
Thanks.
As many people have found on T-Mobile for various data connection problems, , try this
settings/menu/connections/manage existing connections/proxy settings tab/remove the tick in the "this network uses a proxy server to connect to the internet" box.
samsamuel said:
As many people have found on T-Mobile for various data connection problems, , try this
settings/menu/connections/manage existing connections/proxy settings tab/remove the tick in the "this network uses a proxy server to connect to the internet" box.
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Already tried this, but no success. So wondering is it possible in UK to make VOIP calls using any 3g network.
Guys Please post your VOIP call experience on UK 3g providers.
You could try getting VPN to work?
It is true that indeed some providers do block certain ports/protocols to enforce their terms of use.
Vodafone NL started with this too some time ago..
pda_crazy said:
Guys Please post your VOIP call experience on UK 3g providers.
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I don't use it much but I've had no problems using Skype on 3UK.
I'm with T-Mobile UK and can use Skype without problem on HD2
Vodafone NL blocked some ports
BLAST3RR said:
You could try getting VPN to work?
It is true that indeed some providers do block certain ports/protocols to enforce their terms of use.
Vodafone NL started with this too some time ago..
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Hi there,
I have also noticed that Vodafone NL has blocked some ports such as for Rapidshare and Megaupload !
Is there a work around for this?
Thanks
ThatMan said:
I'm with T-Mobile UK and can use Skype without problem on HD2
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Hi,
I am also able to make calls using skype with T-Mobile UK.
Probelm is while making VOIP calls using SIP (soft phone). Like in my case my voip provider is ActionVoip.
softphone wont work with Tmobile UK
pda_crazy said:
<b>
"you can't use your phone as a modem or use internet Plus for peer to peer file sharing, or making internet phone calls. *[Internet] Plus comes with a fair use policy of 3GB a month."</b>
So I am wondering whether T-mobile is blocking my access to connect to my VOIP provider. Although, I can use skype mobile on t-mobile 3g network to make skype to skype calls.
Guys,
Is there anyone who is able to make VOIP call using t-mobile, uk 3g network or any of the other UK provider? If yes, then please help me to figure out what’s wrong in my settings.
Thanks.
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hi
I have tried many times with Softphone 3.0 and it does not work. My mate has swapped the sim card into his iphone and with o2 it registered without problems. it seems tmobile is blocking port 5060 for sip connecitions.
Fring somehow works but Softphone is much better, under Wi-Fi it quickly connecter my friend calling me to my Voip-in number (voipcheap). fring can fail with this.
let me know if you have found some clues how to make it work.
thanks
Hi
I am also facing the same problem. I can make jumblo calls( voip provider) if my wifi is connected.
But it does not work with my t-mobile uk 3g connection.
Please advice.
cheers

LTE version: WiFi calling?

So I got myself the LTE version of this tab.
Was hoping wifi calling was an option.. But it doesn't seem to support it (at least I can't seem to find the option)
I have a tmobile Sim card and when I use it on my note 8 I can see the wifi calling option.
Anyone know a way to enable this? Or the the s5e simply not support this feature.?
I think this depends on your cell provider as some networks do not support WiFi calling
iceepyon said:
I think this depends on your cell provider as some networks do not support WiFi calling
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Yeah it does,
In my case my provider does support wifi calling and using the same Sim card I can activate wifi calling on a couple of other devices I have., just not on this tablet because I am unable to find the option.
Cifuddh said:
Yeah it does,
In my case my provider does support wifi calling and using the same Sim card I can activate wifi calling on a couple of other devices I have., just not on this tablet because I am unable to find the option.
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In that case I would take your device to either the local high street retail branch of your Service Provider or a Samsung Service Centre and ask them for further assistance. There is a chance that the SGTS5e does not support WiFi calling as it is a tablet afterall.

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