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{Q} $30 for a Refurb GS4, is it worth it to sign a new contract?

Been off contract with ATT for almost 5 years now. Is it worth it to pay $30 for the phone + $20 tax and sign a new contract? I have been using iOS for sometime now and looking to start modding again. I've been out of loop for so long and not sure how much this device is actually worth considering I'd be trapped in contract for the next two years.
Input/suggestions appreciated thank you.

Pay full price for Google edition of s4. I love mine but locked bootloader is annoying. Nothing is worth going back on contact.
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McAwesome said:
Pay full price for Google edition of s4. I love mine but locked bootloader is annoying. Nothing is worth going back on contact.
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does a locked bootloader mean it can't be rooted? or does it mean it can't be unlocked?

Locked bootloader causes all kinds of issues in the loading process. I'm no expert like outler but depending the firmware currently on the phone when you buy you might be out of luck. There was an exploit to flash around the locked bootloader not an unlocking per se but tricking the phone into thinking the bot was legit. But a recent update fixed the exploit and blew the qfuse making it impossible to revert to previous formate versions. If I had known Google was releasing a s4 variant I would have paid the premium.
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McAwesome said:
Locked bootloader causes all kinds of issues in the loading process. I'm no expert like outler but depending the firmware currently on the phone when you buy you might be out of luck. There was an exploit to flash around the locked bootloader not an unlocking per se but tricking the phone into thinking the bot was legit. But a recent update fixed the exploit and blew the qfuse making it impossible to revert to previous formate versions. If I had known Google was releasing a s4 variant I would have paid the premium.
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okay so the consensus is to not purchase the device on ATT. I thought at $30 was a steal but now it looks like I'd pay $30+TAXachusetts+contract+No Freedom = I'd be pissed

redbandana said:
okay so the consensus is to not purchase the device on ATT. I thought at $30 was a steal but now it looks like I'd pay $30+TAXachusetts+contract+No Freedom = I'd be pissed
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Take thay steal and sell it for as much as you can on craigslist, use that money to either buy
A) T-Mobile variant full price (identical to att but no locked bootloader, same service bands same hardware)
B) galaxy s4 google edition (comes with a nexus experience rom...aosp with a little but of hidden TW proprietary files)
Personally...I would go for the t-mobilw, why? Because you can flash a google edition rom on tmobile variant if you want and it will be identical to GE.
The google edition does not support touchwiz roms (correct me if im wrong) however the other variants support google edition roms
You can prob get around 500 for the s4, so youd have to pay another 100 on top of that plus tax for a full priced differnt variant s4
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mg2195 said:
Take thay steal and sell it for as much as you can on craigslist, use that money to either buy
A) T-Mobile variant full price (identical to att but no locked bootloader, same service bands same hardware)
B) galaxy s4 google edition (comes with a nexus experience rom...aosp with a little but of hidden TW proprietary files)
Personally...I would go for the t-mobilw, why? Because you can flash a google edition rom on tmobile variant if you want and it will be identical to GE.
The google edition does not support touchwiz roms (correct me if im wrong) however the other variants support google edition roms
You can prob get around 500 for the s4, so youd have to pay another 100 on top of that plus tax for a full priced differnt variant s4
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Thanks for your reply, I read a few articles regarding the locked bootloader, yet I see custom roms that are rooted. I'm confused how exactly custom roms are installed on att devices yet the bootloader can't be unlocked. Sorry, this would be my first android device. WinMo guy switched to iOS 'cause of stability issues.

redbandana said:
Thanks for your reply, I read a few articles regarding the locked bootloader, yet I see custom roms that are rooted. I'm confused how exactly custom roms are installed on att devices yet the bootloader can't be unlocked. Sorry, this would be my first android device. WinMo guy switched to iOS 'cause of stability issues.
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Previous firmwares had a vulnerability that was exploited by djrbliss which allowed us to bypass the locked bootloader and flash custom recoveries.
AT&T, (along with Verizon) since the release of the exploit, has patched this vulnerability, making the installing of custom recoveries impossible (at least for now until another exploit is discovered) for the users who took the OTA or who unfortunately bought the device with the latest firmware installed.
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I agree with the person above. get it for 30, sell it for like 500, add 150+, and get the GE edition. that's what i would do.

jhong91 said:
Previous firmwares had a vulnerability that was exploited by djrbliss which allowed us to bypass the locked bootloader and flash custom recoveries.
AT&T, (along with Verizon) since the release of the exploit, has patched this vulnerability, making the installing of custom recoveries impossible (at least for now until another exploit is discovered) for the users who took the OTA or who unfortunately bought the device with the latest firmware installed.
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I agree with the person above. get it for 30, sell it for like 500, add 150+, and get the GE edition. that's what i would do.
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I probably won't get it at all then. Technically dropping $50 short term. Selling for $460-$500 Approximately $450 profit and stuck in a two year contract, unless I opt out after 14 days and pay the ETF and I'd be out another $350. Profit ~$100. Does the HTC One for ATT have a locked bootloader? I wouldn't mind if bloatware wasn't an issue

redbandana said:
I probably won't get it at all then. Technically dropping $50 short term. Selling for $460-$500 Approximately $450 profit and stuck in a two year contract, unless I opt out after 14 days and pay the ETF and I'd be out another $350. Profit ~$100. Does the HTC One for ATT have a locked bootloader? I wouldn't mind if bloatware wasn't an issue
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Yes it does(unlockable via HTC dev. com? )
and is also fully convertible to GE edition that receives OTA updates from HTC/Google.
if you don't mind the awkward button placement and a ultrapixel camera, go for it.

jhong91 said:
Yes it does(unlockable via HTC dev. com? )
and is also fully convertible to GE edition that receives OTA updates from HTC/Google.
if you don't mind the awkward button placement and a ultrapixel camera, go for it.
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Yes, that site will unlock it.

Verizon moto x into a Verizon Developer edition

Is there a way to turn my Verizon Moto X into the Developer Edition? I don't want custom Roms. I just want to get updates faster, like the same time the developer edition gets an update. Thanks
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drtyhry31 said:
Is there a way to turn my Verizon Moto X into the Developer Edition? I don't want custom Roms. I just want to get updates faster, like the same time the developer edition gets an update. Thanks
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You will get the update at the same time the Verizon Developer Edition gets it. 4.4.2 hasn't been pushed to Verizon customers yet. Since Verizon is CDMA, we have to wait for the Verizon 4.4.2 to be released.
If you bought your Moto X from Verizon or Moto Maker, there is no way to unlock the bootloader. If you want a Verizon Dev Ed and have an upgrade available, check out my thread about a Free Verizon Dev Ed using an upgrade. Takes some work, but can be done.
How to Get a FREE Verizon Dev Ed if You Have an Upgrade Available
You could sell your current Moto X, too on swappa after you get your Verizon Dev Ed.

Thanks for the info Cozume, I'll just have to be patient.
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I'm almost considering getting a Dev and swapping my moto maker parts to it. Almost....
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drtyhry31 said:
Is there a way to turn my Verizon Moto X into the Developer Edition? I don't want custom Roms. I just want to get updates faster, like the same time the developer edition gets an update. Thanks
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All the Verizon X's use the same rom... Developer, Moto Maker, Retail, they use the same rom.
Only real difference is that the Dev Ed comes only with black face, woven white back, and silver button/accents, and last but certainly most important is its bootloader can be unlocked for easy rooting and developing.
The Retail and Moto Maker X for Verizon can't have their bootloaders unlocked. I've read posts saying its due to eFuse, which can't be undone, but don't quote me on that.

Sell it and buy one. Only way it'll happen.
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Someone root and unlock dis bish

Save me from having to get the Nexus 6 monstrosity.

LifeAsADroid said:
Save me from having to get the Nexus 6 monstrosity.
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this only factor its keeping me from over hype myself to this phone, if someone roots and unlocks bootloader this beast. will be the android phone of the year on size specs and battery.

That's where I am. N6 is too big. I have a Moto X and Nexus 7 (both 2013), and the N6 is just too big, based on the PhoneArena size comparisons. I need root, so the N6 has a slight advantage right now.
I love the idea of a Nexus phone, but the Turbo has most of the features I would want, like Moto Apps (same/similar to Moto X), wireless charging, amazing battery, and it's not so big. I know the N6 will be easy to root/unlock, but I don't if that is enough to outweigh the size.
Price is still an unknown on the Turbo, too. I have to think it's less than the $649 of the N6.
Semi-related.. Another thing I was thinking about the other day.. the Turbo has capacative buttons, with no menu button. My Moto X has on-screen buttons and does show the three dots from time to time that works as a menu button on the right side of the nav bar. How would the Turbo handle such a situation? Would the developer be forced to make a menu button somewhere in their app?

Don't forget about the note 4
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I'm confident we'll get root. Almost every phone out there has gotten root, most without much delay.
Time will tell though

This might be the first phone I might not care about root. I don't use hotspots. Its 90% pure Android with actually useful extra features. With 3 gigs of ram and that battery, do I really care about bloat apps? I think maybe unicon and xposed might be my only reasons. And there not just haves. Of course I want root. Its my phone. But it won't be a deal breaker for me.

I've been spoiled by Xposed, and do use hotspot for my N7. I also use some Tasker profiles that need root, so it's kind of a must for me. I agree with @rajuabju, at the rate things have been going, it won't be more than a few months. Who knows, maybe this latest Moto exploit will work. Or maybe the middleman will have codes for the Turbo. We'll know in a few weeks, I guess.

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I've been spoiled by Xposed, and do use hotspot for my N7. I also use some Tasker profiles that need root, so it's kind of a must for me. I agree with @rajuabju, at the rate things have been going, it won't be more than a few months. Who knows, maybe this latest Moto exploit will work. Or maybe the middleman will have codes for the Turbo. We'll know in a few weeks, I guess.
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Lol, exactly why I won't get a phone without root. Xposed and the hacked hotspot app for VZW. Also why I would like it "permanently" unlocked (like the RAZR HD was - a blown fuse that can't be fixed or "patched" once destroyed), easier to flash SuperSU.zip onto the phone after every update without worrying about "is it safe to take the update or not? Will I lose root?"

How much success has there been unlocking bootloaders on these Verizon Motorola devices in the past year or two?

grin0048 said:
How much success has there been unlocking bootloaders on these Verizon Motorola devices in the past year or two?
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My Verizon Moto Maker Moto X is unlocked. The Chinese middleman was unlocking Moto X and another Moto phone.. Maxx or Ultra, maybe?
And SunShine seemed to work on most Droids.
Unless you were being sarcastic, in which case, you got me.

fury683 said:
My Verizon Moto Maker Moto X is unlocked. The Chinese middleman was unlocking Moto X and another Moto phone.. Maxx or Ultra, maybe?
And SunShine seemed to work on most Droids.
Unless you were being sarcastic, in which case, you got me.
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No, wasn't trying to be sarcastic at all. I've been rolling with my S3 for the past 2.5 years and haven't been paying very much attention outside of that. I was somewhat aware that it was possible to pay some...one...thing...idk to get some of these Motorola devices unlocked--what a strange situation that is.

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How much success has there been unlocking bootloaders on these Verizon Motorola devices in the past year or two?
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I would say there are probably equal odds that SunShine works for Turbo, or that Moto patched it. But given the propensity to root/unlock devices, it will happen rather quickly.

Sunshine won't work for the Droid Turbo, yet.
It only works for 4.4.3 and below, the Turbo will undoubtedly be released on 4.4.4 or 5.0, but that doesn't mean it won't eventually work. It's the only hope though.

I've been out of the CDMA loop for years and years and years now. Don't these phones use SIMs now? Is it just a matter of software unlocking GSM frequencies or is it still completely different hardware?
I was a phablet user for 2 years but went back to a N5 and am actually liking the smaller form factor, and would get this over the N6. A stock 5.0 port making this GPe would sure be sweet.
This phone looks geeat, but I'm on TMo.

Poi25 said:
I've been out of the CDMA loop for years and years and years now. Don't these phones use SIMs now? Is it just a matter of software unlocking GSM frequencies or is it still completely different hardware?
I was a phablet user for 2 years but went back to a N5 and am actually liking the smaller form factor, and would get this over the N6. A stock 5.0 port making this GPe would sure be sweet.
This phone looks geeat, but I'm on TMo.
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The SIM is for LTE only, I believe. The rest is done over CDMA. I believe the N6 has a US edition and a world edition, so the US edition will work with all major carriers on all bands and won't really be "different". The Droid line is Verizon exclusive, so it will be locked to CDMA and Verizon's LTE bands.

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No, wasn't trying to be sarcastic at all. I've been rolling with my S3 for the past 2.5 years and haven't been paying very much attention outside of that. I was somewhat aware that it was possible to pay some...one...thing...idk to get some of these Motorola devices unlocked--what a strange situation that is.
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you could pay a middle man to send you an unlock code but you needed to pass along your IMEI number to get it...now, sunshine seems to unlock just about all of the Moto phones from 2013 afaik...
i HIGHLY doubt sunshine will work out of the box on a Turbo..but heres to hoping...

Metfanant said:
you could pay a middle man to send you an unlock code but you needed to pass along your IMEI number to get it...now, sunshine seems to unlock just about all of the Moto phones from 2013 afaik...
i HIGHLY doubt sunshine will work out of the box on a Turbo..but heres to hoping...
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I used the MiddleMan for my Moto G while I was on a prepaid Verizon plan. $45 well spent.
I was VERY lucky to have gotten my Verizon HTC One M7's bootloader unlocked the first day it came out Verizon blundered and didn't turn off that capability through HTC right away.

Will this beast be available worldwide or only in the US ?
PLEASE say worldwide.

roddem said:
Will this beast be available worldwide or only in the US ?
PLEASE say worldwide.
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PLEASE don't troll threads with your stupid questions that have nothing to do with the topic.

Metfanant said:
you could pay a middle man to send you an unlock code but you needed to pass along your IMEI number to get it...now, sunshine seems to unlock just about all of the Moto phones from 2013 afaik...
i HIGHLY doubt sunshine will work out of the box on a Turbo..but heres to hoping...
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If you're going to comment on a dev forum, at least understand the terminology before you use it... otherwise it makes you seem ignorant. "UNLOCKED" and "UNLOCKING THE BOOTLOADER" are two very different things that have ZERO to do with one another.
All LTE CDMA phones for the past 2 years that use a SIM are "unlocked", as this refers to the carrier lock that is placed on the device when it is sold in bulk to network providers (which is why you have three network settings in your phones setting menu - LTE, GSM, and Global). Don't use terminology you don't understand, as you're adding to the ignorance too many seem to have about what unlocking is and what unlocking a bootloader is. It makes it only that much harder for other individuals to get the correct information, and is the reason why a VZW rep tried to tell me I don't need a developer edition to unlock my phone, because all LTE devices are unlocked when I tried to explain I was looking for a developer edition so I could unlock the bootloader.
Very few Verizon phones have the capability to unlock the phone's bootloader, which allows for rooting without an exploit and the ability to flash custom ROMs (firmware), such as Cyanagenmod. Those of you believing root will appear on any new Motorola phones are not well versed in Motorola phones sold by Verizon. Dan Rosenberg, who is the person anyone with a Motorola device on Verizon has to to thank for the last half decade of being able to root your Motorola VZW phones, has repeatedly posted on numerous threads for over a year to not expect for your Motorola devices to be rooted and if you want root, either buy a Nexus or buy a Developer Edition (if VZW is going to release any more editions after the S5 is not known and information about Developer Editions for the Note 4 Droid Turbo have been repeatedly ignored by VZW's Public Affairs office). This is due to the fact VZW has wizened up and made finding an exploit on anything past 4.4.4 nigh impossible. Exploits that allow root access are not easy to find (taking several months for most VZW Moto root exploits) and as soon as one is found, within a matter of weeks, if not days, VZW will push an automatic update, forcing your phone to update to patch the exploit. This is why when you root your phone you're told to disable OTA updates at the apk level by freezing the update apk or removing it all together after making a backup of it.
Many Motorola users got a surprise in late Spring when a Moto employee "accidentally" included the exploited code that allowed you to blow the fuse and unlock the bootloader of devices running 4.4.2. That was a once in a billion opportunity that will probably never happen again. Every time an exploit has been found that allowed root access or the ability to unlock the bootloader (which was only recently cracked in the past year, possibly two... to put that in perspective, it took over half a decade for Dan Rosenberg to find the exploit that allowed the internal fuse to be blown, unlocking the bootloader). Exploits are not easy things to find, especially in Motorola devices running on VZW's network.
To all of those that like to post root bounties... BUY A DEVELOPER EDITION. You'll pay $300 for a device and then offer $300+ for a root bounty... which is the cost of developer edition device... considering VZW offers Edge, you no longer have to pay full retail in one go for a DE. From this point forward, VZW customers need to comprehend the fact that rooting will continue to be increasingly difficult to perform, most especially on Moto phones running on VZW's network. If you want root access, buy the S5 developer edition or wait until the first week of december to see if a developer edition for the Note 4 will be released (if a Note 4 DE is going to be released, it will occur within the 4 - 6 weeks following it's RTM on 10/23 [Thursday]).

Factory unlocked note 4 question.

I just have a quick question, there's a store that sells factory unlocked Verizon and Att&T Note 4's and my question is (sounds dumb) are the bootloaders locked as well? I'm looking forward to buying one in April, but if the bootloader is still locked even though it's a factory unlocked device I'm not going to buy it since I want a unlocked bootloader for obvious reasons.

Verizon sells a developers edition that has an unlocked bootloader.. i have not heard of Att selling a unlocked bootloader edition.
Their devices(att) are locked up tight like fort knox...

MartyMar_XVII said:
I just have a quick question, there's a store that sells factory unlocked Verizon and Att&T Note 4's and my question is (sounds dumb) are the bootloaders locked as well? I'm looking forward to buying one in April, but if the bootloader is still locked even though it's a factory unlocked device I'm not going to buy it since I want a unlocked bootloader for obvious reasons.
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There is a Developer Edition note 4 with unlocked bootloader, I don't know about those variants though...I guess their bootloader is locked...

Flashvetrin said:
Verizon sells a developers edition that has an unlocked bootloader.. i have not heard of Att selling a unlocked bootloader edition.
Their devices(att) are locked up tight like fort knox...
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Ashatar said:
There is a Developer Edition note 4 with unlocked bootloader, I don't know about those variants though...I guess their bootloader is locked...
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That's the thing that gets me and I don't think the store owner knows of the developer editions. I asked him and he hasn't replied to me, lol.

MartyMar_XVII said:
That's the thing that gets me and I don't think the store owner knows of the developer editions. I asked him and he hasn't replied to me, lol.
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Try searching some others stores, there are probably many in New York

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Try searching some others stores, there are probably many in New York
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I am, the store owner just replied, he told me it isn't the developers edition but it's factory unlocked most likely just for getting g other carriers, oh well.

MartyMar_XVII said:
I am, the store owner just replied, he told me it isn't the developers edition but it's factory unlocked most likely just for getting g other carriers, oh well.
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Well then, good luck finding the dev edition.

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Well then, good luck finding the dev edition.
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Thanks I'm going to need it, lol. I've dealt with a bootloader locked device the LGL70 for metro pcs, for about a week or so then someone unlocked the bootloader and boy was I excited, lol. Apparently in the Verizon Note 4 section there's progress. Knowing how I am I'm just going to get the Verizon Note 4 and just wait only because the store who's selling it can give it to me on an monthly payment plan. I can't really afford to dish out the money for the dev edition.

Verizon Moto G4 Play not Unlockable?

Hey guys , trying to unlock my Moto G4 Play but the the Moto site says my device is not eligible . However the OEM Unlock is turned on in settings? Any help would be appreciated, really want root.

Anyone? Please can't stand the bloat

Be patient. The XT1607 isn't even on the chart yet about what devices are eligible for unlock. It's the same model as the one sold unlocked by moto and Amazon, so I find it unlikely that it won't eventually get the unlock, but since it's only been out for 4 days now you need to chillax.
I plan to make a rom for cdma as soon as the unlock is possible, but it could be a few weeks/month.
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The Verizon model is the XT1609 from what I've read.
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The Verizon model is the XT1609 from what I've read.
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That's okay, it's still being sold direct from moto like the 1607 is as an unlocked cdma phone, so my statement *should* still apply. I think we're going to see a bootloader unlock very soon. Moto is just dragging their feet a little, I mean the stock restore images aren't even available yet for fixing a bricked phone.
As long as we're all patient, I really don't see this being one of the phones that doesn't get an unlock. It's in their best interest at this price point as an unlocked bootloader means some inexperienced users will brick them and since their bootloader is unlocked the warranty is void, which means they'll likely buy another to replace it because, let's face it: what other options are there for cdma, unlocked, under $200USD?
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I just got the phone today - the standard, no-ads edition (xt1607). I was able to unlock the bootloader, even though the G4 Play is not listed on the motorola website. Chances are the Verizon version is locked down.

After doing a little research, I found out that the XT1607 will work on all major American carriers including Verizon. The XT1609 looks to be a Verizon prepaid version of this phone.
https://opennetwork.verizonwireless...opment/devices-modules/devices/Judo_4739.html
http://www.droid-life.com/2016/09/06/moto-g4-play-deals-prime-exclusive/

mx597turbo said:
I just got the phone today - the standard, no-ads edition (xt1607). I was able to unlock the bootloader, even though the G4 Play is not listed on the motorola website. Chances are the Verizon version is locked down.
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How did you manage to unlock the bootloader? I set the OEM unlock toggle in developer settings, but when I copied the code from fastboot to the bootloader unlock site it said my XT1607 isn't eligible.
Maybe they just finally got around to adding it, so I'll try again
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texraid said:
After doing a little research, I found out that the XT1607 will work on all major American carriers including Verizon. The XT1609 looks to be a Verizon prepaid version of this phone.
https://opennetwork.verizonwireless...opment/devices-modules/devices/Judo_4739.html
http://www.droid-life.com/2016/09/06/moto-g4-play-deals-prime-exclusive/
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This is about bootloader unlocking to flash a custom recovery, root, and roms... Not carrier unlocking.
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How did you manage to unlock the bootloader? I set the OEM unlock toggle in developer settings, but when I copied the code from fastboot to the bootloader unlock site it said my XT1607 isn't eligible.
Maybe they just finally got around to adding it, so I'll try again
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Did you get the Amazon prime edition with ads? If so, the bootloader isn't unlockable. It was initially on the g4 and g4 plus, but they stopped allowing it back in July or August.
This is about bootloader unlocking to flash a custom recovery, root, and roms... Not carrier unlocking.
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Correct, but Verizon typically doesn't allow bootloader unlocking. A Verizon branded phone probably won't be unlockable.

mx597turbo said:
Did you get the Amazon prime edition with ads? If so, the bootloader isn't unlockable. It was initially on the g4 and g4 plus, but they stopped allowing it back in July or August.
Correct, but Verizon typically doesn't allow bootloader unlocking. A Verizon branded phone probably won't be unlockable.
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well that bull, $100.00 to the first guy who can get the XT1609 bootloader unlocked.

agentfusion said:
This is about bootloader unlocking to flash a custom recovery, root, and roms... Not carrier unlocking.
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No one said it was about carrier unlocking. I was just pointing out the difference between the model numbers.

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well that bull, $100.00 to the first guy who can get the XT1609 bootloader unlocked.
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Just sell the Verizon phone and pick up the no-ads version on Amazon for $150. Probably cheaper and faster :good:

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Just sell the Verizon phone and pick up the no-ads version on Amazon for $150. Probably cheaper and faster :good:
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I'd just contact moto and point out that their chart says the only g4 phones that can't unlock the bootloader are the Amazon prime exclusives, which the Verizon model is not. It certainly should be eligible.
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I got the phone today. I thought all Verizon phones were unlocked? I put in my at&t sim and it said to call Verizon in order to use the phone on a different network. Verizon had no clue why I was getting that message. Anyone know why I'm getting this message?
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No luck, I've tried for several days with no luck. I suppose the Verizon variant can't be bootloader unlocked

secandRRe said:
No luck, I've tried for several days with no luck. I suppose the Verizon variant can't be bootloader unlocked
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I returned it. I'll probably end up paying the extra $50 and get the unlocked version.
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vgs929 said:
I got the phone today. I thought all Verizon phones were unlocked? I put in my at&t sim and it said to call Verizon in order to use the phone on a different network. Verizon had no clue why I was getting that message. Anyone know why I'm getting this message?
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Kind of the wrong place for this question as this thread is about bootloader unlocking (for rooting), not carrier unlocking. I'm interested in any possible answer to this question too (seems like a half way decent budget smartphone to use on AT&T or Cricket) but from what I can gather, Verizon had a recent policy change which prohibits carrier unlocking until one year of ownership has passed. Maybe there is a workaround other than ebay (doesn't seem to be unlock codes for this phone there). Maybe you can try starting a new thread titled something like "Carrier Unlocking For Verizon Moto G4 Play" to get some more traction on this question. Good luck.
Edit: Didn't notice that you posted a couple of posts down saying that you got rid of it. Guess you could care less about unlocking it.

agentfusion said:
I'd just contact moto and point out that their chart says the only g4 phones that can't unlock the bootloader are the Amazon prime exclusives, which the Verizon model is not. It certainly should be eligible.
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Verizon does not allow bootloader unlocking of their Moto phones.
(The exception being the first Moto X, but it was only sold as a development edition)
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ryanl2299 said:
Kind of the wrong place for this question as this thread is about bootloader unlocking (for rooting), not carrier unlocking. I'm interested in any possible answer to this question too (seems like a half way decent budget smartphone to use on AT&T or Cricket) but from what I can gather, Verizon had a recent policy change which prohibits carrier unlocking until one year of ownership has passed. Maybe there is a workaround other than ebay (doesn't seem to be unlock codes for this phone there). Maybe you can try starting a new thread titled something like "Carrier Unlocking For Verizon Moto G4 Play" to get some more traction on this question. Good luck.
Edit: Didn't notice that you posted a couple of posts down saying that you got rid of it. Guess you could care less about unlocking it.
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Verizon devices are not SIM locked, but the Verizon G4 Play is lacking GSM/HSPA.

xtermmin said:
Verizon does not allow bootloader unlocking of their Moto phones.
(The exception being the first Moto X, but it was only sold as a development edition)
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Verizon devices are not SIM locked, but the Verizon G4 Play is lacking GSM/HSPA.
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I would imagine that all the G4 Plays are the same (hardware wise) and the GSM would be a software thing. I'm just making an assumption based on previous models, but it wouldn't matter much anyway if Moto/Verizon didn't allow anyway around it. Maybe someday someone will unlock one of these and we can test it out. Just a little curious.

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