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Hi, I just got a nexus4 and would like to keep it stock (have a sgs2 that I use for trying roms out on) but I would like to something that gives me a bit more control over how apps use my info. On my sgs2 I love openpdroid and I almost considered LBE (don't like that it doesn't allow spoofing) but seems that its been having alot of issues so that doesn't seem like a great idea. I could have sworn that I had seen one or two threads before where some devs were working on some things similar to pdroid that were also a bit simpler to install and seemed like they might install on stock roms but can't find these threads. Does anyone have any suggestions for other apps that would give a bit more control over how user info is managed? Thx in advance!
gaikokujinkyofusho said:
Hi, I just got a nexus4 and would like to keep it stock (have a sgs2 that I use for trying roms out on) but I would like to something that gives me a bit more control over how apps use my info. On my sgs2 I love openpdroid and I almost considered LBE (don't like that it doesn't allow spoofing) but seems that its been having alot of issues so that doesn't seem like a great idea. I could have sworn that I had seen one or two threads before where some devs were working on some things similar to pdroid that were also a bit simpler to install and seemed like they might install on stock roms but can't find these threads. Does anyone have any suggestions for other apps that would give a bit more control over how user info is managed? Thx in advance!
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Just install XPosed Framework, and install the XPrivacy Module. XPrivacy is THE BEST privacy management tool on android, allows for fake data entry too. Check it out.
ykumar00 said:
Just install XPosed Framework, and install the XPrivacy Module. XPrivacy is THE BEST privacy management tool on android, allows for fake data entry too. Check it out.
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I've been meaning to check out XPosed, I keep seeing it everywhere.
I guess I have one main question related to Xposed then, for the Nexus 4, as I am trying to keep it as-stock-as-possible would the XPosed framework interfere or break the "stockness" (forgive me with the terminology) of the stock rom? That is, will it continue to update when google pushes out new updates like 4.4.3, 4.4.4, and so on? Regardless I am going to look into it for my sgs2 as I am more tolerant of tinkering but the Nexus4 is not for me and they (sig other) just wants a no-fuss phone and I want them to have a no-fuss phone with a reasonable level of privacy (always a balance )
gaikokujinkyofusho said:
I've been meaning to check out XPosed, I keep seeing it everywhere.
I guess I have one main question related to Xposed then, for the Nexus 4, as I am trying to keep it as-stock-as-possible would the XPosed framework interfere or break the "stockness" (forgive me with the terminology) of the stock rom? That is, will it continue to update when google pushes out new updates like 4.4.3, 4.4.4, and so on? Regardless I am going to look into it for my sgs2 as I am more tolerant of tinkering but the Nexus4 is not for me and they (sig other) just wants a no-fuss phone and I want them to have a no-fuss phone with a reasonable level of privacy (always a balance )
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Absolutely not, your "stockiness" will not break, as one of the main features of the xposed framework is allowing mods without flashing files and/or modifying system files. You will still receive OTAs, but to install them you'll have to uninstall The framework. (It's just a button press in the xposed app and 2 seconds of waiting) you can reinstall xposed after the OTA.
ykumar00 said:
Absolutely not, your "stockiness" will not break,
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Sold!!
ykumar00 said:
as one of the main features of the xposed framework is allowing mods without flashing files and/or modifying system files. You will still receive OTAs, but to install them you'll have to uninstall The framework. (It's just a button press in the xposed app and 2 seconds of waiting) you can reinstall xposed after the OTA.
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Ok, the second part was a bit less clear however now that i know it won't break it I will go do the requisite reading and then post if i have additional questions. Thanks so much for putting me onto XPosed!
gaikokujinkyofusho said:
Sold!!
Ok, the second part was a bit less clear however now that i know it won't break it I will go do the requisite reading and then post if i have additional questions. Thanks so much for putting me onto XPosed!
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when google pushes a new update(as so called OTA or Over The Air)your phone will display the update info. however when installing it will fail since one of the files in the system is modified(the app_process in /system/bin). then you go to the Xposed app. and unninstall de framework. or use any root explorer(since u will need to have root to install xposed) and delete app_process in /system/bin and rename the app_process.bak to just app_process(in same dir).
thats what he meant.
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you will loose all configurations,sdcard contents, downloaded apps, etc.... . if u still didnt unlock your bootloader(witch looks like no),because u will need to root your phone.
gaikokujinkyofusho said:
Sold!!
Ok, the second part was a bit less clear however now that i know it won't break it I will go do the requisite reading and then post if i have additional questions. Thanks so much for putting me onto XPosed!
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You will not have any problem if youre already rooted. When an OTA comes, just Open the Xposed app and press the button to uninstall the framework. Your OTA Will work just fine.
After the OTA, just click the insatll button to re install Xposed. Really simple, really. And since youre gonna install Xposed, I suggest you try out GravityBox too, its ****ing awesome.
ykumar00 said:
You will not have any problem if youre already rooted. When an OTA comes, just Open the Xposed app and press the button to uninstall the framework. Your OTA Will work just fine.
After the OTA, just click the insatll button to re install Xposed. Really simple, really. And since youre gonna install Xposed, I suggest you try out GravityBox too, its ****ing awesome.
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I think I have you a "thank" click but wanted to come back to the post and thank you again, Xposed is impressive but XPrivacy is overwhelming, in an awesome way, and I thought PDroid covered alot. I've got some reading/re-reading to do but just wanted to say thanks cause i don't think I would have come across it otherwise. much appreciated! (and yeah, gravbox pretty damn nice too)
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just switched from kitkat to android L. i had xposed framework working on kitkat and i know it doesn't work on L's ART
so has anyone come across any framework that works for 5.0? and what customizing apps work with L currently? any feedback is welcome
RockyAJ said:
not sure where this post should go, so if not the place, hope it can be moved to the right section
just switched from kitkat to android L. i had xposed framework working on kitkat and i know it doesn't work on L's ART
so has anyone come across any framework that works for 5.0? and what customizing apps work with L currently? any feedback is welcome
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Hi.
As you know indeed, any xposed-based apps don't work.
So, all other (almost) that require root access works.
If you don't use a 5-rooted rom, You have to manually root thanks to latest chainfire's "cf-auto-root",
then install "supersu" app, and "busybox" also.
I only met problem with wakelock detector not detecting root access for the moment.
V4A, TiBu and Greenify for example work.
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Hi.
As you know indeed, any xposed-based apps don't work.
So, all other (almost) that require root access works.
If you don't use a 5-rooted rom, You have to manually root thanks to latest chainfire's "cf-auto-root",
then install "supersu" app, and "busybox" also.
I only met problem with wakelock detector not detecting root access for the moment.
V4A, TiBu and Greenify for example work.
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i am rooted at the moment with supersu and busybox. i used nexus root toolkit by WugFresh. had problems with greenify. wouldn't hibernate a lot of apps, including whatsapp,viber,etc. the basic ones. didn't even try to hibernate system ones. just the ones i use frequently. but to no avail.
p.s: what is 5-rooted rom
Xposed doesn't work currently with ART runtime which is what used on L, the developer said he may or may not be able to make it happen and if needed it may take some time. So if you want a lot of customizations you'll want to stick for 4.4 now and wait for some L custom roms to pop up.
No clue about the google apps, try uninstalling one, restarting and reinstalling and see if the behaviour changes.
Next time, questions goes in Q&A section.
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Xposed doesn't work currently with ART runtime which is what used on L, the developer said he may or may not be able to make it happen and if needed it may take some time. So if you want a lot of customizations you'll want to stick for 4.4 now and wait for some L custom roms to pop up.
No clue about the google apps, try uninstalling one, restarting and reinstalling and see if the behaviour changes.
Next time, questions goes in Q&A section.
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hence i started my post with not sure if this is right section. oh and you repeated what i knew about the ART runtime. i asked for other frameworks as i knew what developer of xposed had said. but thanks.
and on another quote, greenify worked. updating previous comment
Oh, didn't read your first post correctly, and I know you said it may have been in the wrong section, I just stated what is the right one for next time, didn't mean to sound offensive if I was.
kishke said:
Oh, didn't read your first post correctly, and I know you said it may have been in the wrong section, I just stated what is the right one for next time, didn't mean to sound offensive if I was.
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you were not offensive at all. just felt you missed some of my points thanks a lot for your reply. appreciate it
just wanted to see if anyone has come across any xposed-alternative that is out there that i haven't heard of yet
you can move my post to the Q&A if that's where it belongs in case others have same wondering as i do
so people, what apps are you using on a rooted android 5.0?
THIS THREAD IS ONLY FOR DISCUSSION OF CHROMA 5.1.X AND XPOSED
I am creating this thread to discuss using Chroma 5.1.x ROM and xposed sdk22. Anything and everything related to being successful using xposed and related modules should be discussed here. Bring your issues and any modules you a running forward amongst us folks who find using and xposed and Chroma 5.1.x ROM beneficial.
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Pretty much solved my issue with this link for the original work-around to use Xposed on Chroma 5.1. There's the edit that tells anyone who reads it that the build.prop modifications pre-5/27 build are no longer in place meaning Xposed can be installed/flashed trouble-free now. I did however wipe cache and dalvik per a couple recommendations before and after flashing the Xposed sdk22 zip file. Much appreciate all assistance that's been given!
Xposed working well on Chroma...only issue I call out is Youtube Adaway it is active not blocking ads. Background player for youtube works...but for 5.1.1 on the SuperAlfa still work in progress so not all modules work correctly...
parcou said:
Xposed working well on Chroma...only issue I call out is Youtube Adaway it is active not blocking ads. Background player for youtube works...but for 5.1.1 on the SuperAlfa still work in progress so not all modules work correctly...
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Seems to be working for me no ads. Also using awesome pop up video
organick87 said:
Pretty much solved my issue with this link for the original work-around to use Xposed on Chroma 5.1. There's the edit that tells anyone who reads it that the build.prop modifications pre-5/27 build are no longer in place meaning Xposed can be installed/flashed trouble-free now. I did however wipe cache and dalvik per a couple recommendations before and after flashing the Xposed sdk22 zip file. Much appreciate all assistance that's been given!
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No worries man. Just glad it worked out for you. Can't be without xposed, just gives so much flexibility to do stuff. I've been using it since 5.02 trouble free.
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No worries man. Just glad it worked out for you. Can't be without xposed, just gives so much flexibility to do stuff. I've been using it since 5.02 trouble free.
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@billybloxx more than anything though, I appreciate that you approached my questions with respect that I could sense even through your text. I can't say that for many other experiences I've had here at xda so far, even though it hasn't been that many.
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Seems to be working for me no ads. Also using awesome pop up video
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Wow! OK I will remove it and try again.
What is needed to get xposed working on latest 6-26 of chroma?
Got it working never mind
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This is for anyone who uses stock ROMs
I was just curious to what kernels your are all running and what settings
I'm a pretty hardcore user and my battery is pretty decent but i was wondering if I could get some better battery with a better kernel i also run nova launcher
We can freezw TWLauncher right?
Thanks to any responses
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Beastmode 1.7 is better than stock right out of the box. Beastmode 1.8 just released today. Has some user tweaks via text edit at /system/etc/init.d/01beastmode but I always preferred the stock kernel anyway and haven't tweaked it. Yet. More options have gotten added, maybe more to come, and text edit is simple.
There's an option to use stock kernel with systemless root by Chainfire but it wasn't stable early in development with system mods. It is intended for those that prefer stock system and don't modify it. Could be revolutionary but currently not my thing. Still depends on stock system like-factor which is lacking for me at this point; prefer to modify it.
There's also AEL, Emotion and Plasma kernel for touchwiz. I haven't used those recently but there are those with their preference that may comment.
Stock deodex ROM is the way to go if you use Xposed framework and make system changes. I'd only recommend stock Odex ROM for those that leave system alone like not flashing mods that add system applications or even manually swapping or installing applications in system. Xposed will work with Odex ROM but system applications don't install with Xposed framework applied. To apply system applications to Odex ROM, have to uninstall Xposed framework, apply system application changes, verify they're installed, reinstall Xposed; rather inconvenient and the added heat cycles are intensive on battery and CPU.
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Thanks alot for that it really did help
Hi everyone,
I have a really crazy idea and like to hear your opinion about it. But first let me introduce the topic.
First, let's take a look at what is going on when upgrading from one major Android version to a newer.
The boot and system partition are filled with new content.
Beside kernel adjustments, this is only related to Android, not device specific stuff, right?
Then we have more stuff like the recovery, closed source drivers for the modem, etc. Several times I read about the "firmware". I'm not sure what is meant with firmware exactly in case of a smartphone and how much device specific it is.
How much is this further stuff related to the Android version running on the device?
Summarizing, what is done by a manufacturer when upgrading a device from let's say Marshmallow to Nougat? What needs to be touched and what is not?
Now to the crazy idea. What about downgrading from one major Android version to an older, espacially when there is no older version by the manufacturer? What would need to be touched in this case? Did someone ever try this?
Finally I come to the real question:
Is it possible to port Android Marshmallow to the OnePlus 5?
The reason for this crazy idea is that I can't live without Xposed. But the Xposed Framework isn't available yet for Android Nougat. And to be honest, I'm not sure anymore if it will ever be.
I'm a developer, but I'm afraid I'm not experienced enough to help porting Xposed over to Android Nougat. I would if I could, but my time is limited also.
In contrast to porting Xposed to Nougat, porting Marshmallow to the OnePlus 5 might be easier for me or us, the people who would like to have a OnePlus 5, but can't live without Xposed.
I'm curious about what you think about this crazy idea.
What about Magisk? I've heard that Magisk simplify everything
I actually like the idea! It would be great to have "retro" ROMs, like Android 5, 4.4, or lower. I know it's a bit stupid, but that would be cool in my opinion
I would love it also just because of Xposed,nothing else really
FloyderE said:
What about Magisk? I've heard that Magisk simplify everything
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Magisk is a great tool, but it doesn't have the capabilities of Xposed. So this won't help.
But let's talk only about Marshmallow on the OnePlus 5 here, not about alternatives.
I would absolutely love if OP5 had a Custom Marshmallow port.....I also cannot live without Xposed.
I heard Xposed was ported on Nougat Rom with ARM architecture
I heard Xposed was ported on Nougat Rom with ARM architecture
Jonathanve said:
I heard Xposed was ported on Nougat Rom with ARM architecture
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Not true....it is still very much in a development stage as stated in this most recent update from XDA/Rovo
https://www.xda-developers.com/xposed-android-nougat-support/
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I would absolutely love if OP5 had a Custom Marshmallow port.....I also cannot live without Xposed.
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Just curious, but why? What do you use in Xposed you can't live without that root and custom ROMs don't offer?
Due to the fact you would have to literally write a kernel for MM for the Oneplus5 as there is no existing one, it would be more worthwhile to put all that time into geting Xposed working.
It's probably possible but the mammoth effort to get an older OS on your device would not be expedient...
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Not true....it is still very much in a development stage as stated in this most recent update from XDA/Rovo
https://www.xda-developers.com/xposed-android-nougat-support/
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I am currently using the Oneplus 5,
do you think there could be any way i can use Xposed?
The reason I prefer Oneplus is for being so open and easy to root together with Xposed personally.
1. Technically it should be possible, you just need drivers that would boot Marshmallow on SD 835.
2. Older systems usually have simpler/less API than new one, so there would be no "unsupported" system features.
3. Easiest way would be to port a kernel from a device that shipps with SD 835 and Marshmallow, for now I saw some on benchmarks, but they will probably ship with N onboard when released.
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Just curious, but why? What do you use in Xposed you can't live without that root and custom ROMs don't offer?
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We don't discuss this here. You can believe me, when I say I can't live without it. Xposed's capabilities go much much further then custom roms.
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We don't discuss this here. You can believe me, when I say I can't live without it. Xposed's capabilities go much much further then custom roms.
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Which is why I asked... The point of this thread you created was to get Xposed on the OP5, so I don't see why you can't discuss that here. I'm genuinely curious what it is about Xposed that you need that custom ROMs and/or root can't offer.
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Which is why I asked... The point of this thread you created was to get Xposed on the OP5, so I don't see why you can't discuss that here. I'm genuinely curious what it is about Xposed that you need that custom ROMs and/or root can't offer.
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The thread is about getting Marshmallow on the OP5.
geoff5093 said:
Which is why I asked... The point of this thread you created was to get Xposed on the OP5, so I don't see why you can't discuss that here. I'm genuinely curious what it is about Xposed that you need that custom ROMs and/or root can't offer.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-force-touch-detector-t3130154
Not possible currently without Xposed. Have not seen an app able to do this, have not seen Tasker or Tasker Plug-In able to do this.....nothing does this function. Very useful!
@geoff5093 OK, if you really want to know, I took the time to create a short list:
YouTube AdAway is a good example. It removes ads from the original YouTube app.
YouTube Background Playback adds what you usually only get when you pay for YouTube Red.
XHangouts adds certain stuff to the Hangouts app, like moving the call button to the manu, so that you don't accidently press it.
Amplify can extend your battery life.
Greenify works also only with root, but better (more capabilities) with Xposed.
MinMinGuard removes ads from apps.
App Settings, a classic module by rovo89, the developer of Xposed, can do several configuration stuff per app.
GravityBox is an example, that offers functionality that can also be done by using a custom rom, but selected features are only offered by this module.
I do even more with Xposed, almost everything isn't possible using only root and custom roms.
TL;DR
A custom rom can only add/change functionality of built in stuff, not apps. Xposed can manipulate also apps.
Cypher_01 said:
@geoff5093 OK, if you really want to know, I took the time to create a short list:
YouTube AdAway is a good example. It removes ads from the original YouTube app.
YouTube Background Playback adds what you usually only get when you pay for YouTube Red.
XHangouts adds certain stuff to the Hangouts app, like moving the call button to the manu, so that you don't accidently press it.
Amplify can extend your battery life.
Greenify works also only with root, but better (more capabilities) with Xposed.
MinMinGuard removes ads from apps.
App Settings, a classic module by rovo89, the developer of Xposed, can do several configuration stuff per app.
GravityBox is an example, that offers functionality that can also be done by using a custom rom, but selected features are only offered by this module.
I do even more with Xposed, almost everything isn't possible using only root and custom roms.
TL;DR
A custom rom can only add/change functionality of built in stuff, not apps. Xposed can manipulate also apps.
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Thanks for the list. I used to use many of those as well, but the benefits of greenify and amplify are pretty much moot when you have to sacrifice the significantly enhanced performance of doze in Nougat.
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It seems that not many people are interested in Marshmallow on the OnePlus 5. This is comprehensible, at least since we saw a first unofficial release of Xposed for Nougat here on XDA.
For everyone participating in this thread, Xposed is the reason why we would like to see Marshmallow on the OnePlus 5. Once Xposed for Nougat is out, the idea get's obsolete.
Let's see when we will get Xposed for Nougat, hopefully rovo89 is successful! :fingers-crossed:
Jonathanve said:
I heard Xposed was ported on Nougat Rom with ARM architecture
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Unofficial Xposed is Working on Nugat, though it breaks, SafetyNet. It was first tasted on OP3T :fingers-crossed:
[XPOSED] [NOUGAT] [WORK] [CAN UNSTABLE] Xposed SDK25/24 for all arch
Not all of the Modules are working, here's an Unofficial List...
[UNOFFICIAL] List of modules which work with Nougat Xposed SDK25
the Unofficial Supported Device list sohows OP5 is supported.
Take risk, you never know what you may find. At least you may come up with some interesting Logs.