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Thinking of moving to a RAZR M from a Droid X. Help?

So, I have a Droid X that is now about 2 years old. I run a custom ROM on it (Vortex) with the extended battery. I rarely hit under 60% each day because i don't really use my phone all that much unless I am out of town. I use a car dock with the DX so being charged on trips is also not a huge deal (and I use it as my GPS).
I guess my question is this: is the RAZR M a good follow up to a DX? I likely won't update again for 2 years, so this is always a huge decision for me. I see that they are both 4.3in screens, but that the M is actually a bit smaller, which I welcome. I find my DX to be the upper limit of size for me, so the HD/MAXX HD are out.
Anyways, any advice is welcome. Anyone else move from a DX to a Razr M?

Coronado is dead said:
So, I have a Droid X that is now about 2 years old. I run a custom ROM on it (Vortex) with the extended battery. I rarely hit under 60% each day because i don't really use my phone all that much unless I am out of town. I use a car dock with the DX so being charged on trips is also not a huge deal (and I use it as my GPS).
I guess my question is this: is the RAZR M a good follow up to a DX? I likely won't update again for 2 years, so this is always a huge decision for me. I see that they are both 4.3in screens, but that the M is actually a bit smaller, which I welcome. I find my DX to be the upper limit of size for me, so the HD/MAXX HD are out.
Anyways, any advice is welcome. Anyone else move from a DX to a Razr M?
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You will miss the level of development for it. Other than that it's a great phone.
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jamminjon82 said:
You will miss the level of development for it. Other than that it's a great phone.
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Well, I only really ran customs on my Droid X because it ran terribly on the stock rom. The Razr M does not seem to have that issue. Though I am concerned about background hiss in headphones that I am reading about.

Coronado is dead said:
Well, I only really ran customs on my Droid X because it ran terribly on the stock rom. The Razr M does not seem to have that issue. Though I am concerned about background hiss in headphones that I am reading about.
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I went from a galaxy S 3 to the M and I'm completely happy. Ya there's a million roms for the sgs 3 but you can only run one at a time (think I flashed most of the at one time or another). I'm running bhm (or whatever the initials are) rom and it's awesome, I also loaded the modified framework to hide just the navi bar so my phone is completely gesture based with gmd its cool as hell. I have a few pairs of high end iems at home I'll plug them in and listen for any hiss when I get off work. I think some people flashed beats audio and are having mixed success with it accepting the change. But for the people its worked for I think it solved their hiss issue.
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I use my klipsch in ear ones every day and my music is crisp. I'm a bit of an audiophile and this phone does just fine for me
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I use my klipsch in ear ones every day and my music is crisp. I'm a bit of an audiophile and this phone does just fine for me
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Interesting, I don't now which Klipsch set you use, but I have heard someone mention that brand in their complain about background hiss.
So you don't get any at all in quiet parts of songs? Do you mind me asking when you got your phone? I honestly don't plan on using this phone for music a lot (use an iPod Touch + FiiO amp for that), but I will for podcasts very often, and they have a lot of silence between speakers.
Thanks.

Coronado is dead said:
So, I have a Droid X that is now about 2 years old.
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I had the DX, it was a good phone but I wasn't happy with it after the update. I then bought the RAZR Maxx, a very good phone. Now I have the M which I've had since launch day and its probably the best phone I've owned. I like the size, its built very well, sounds clear and loud, the battery lasts me all day with about 90 minutes of talk time but I had to stop Latitude reporting my location as that killed battery life. The screen size is a bit deceiving as the soft buttons take up a portion of the screen so it's more like the 4" screen of the D3 rather than the 4.3" screen of the DX, you'll notice the difference.
Overall, I like the size of the phone more than the full size RAZRs. Negatives, there are complaints that it isn't as good in getting and holding a signal as the RAZR or RAZR HD phones. I don't monitor the signal strength but I do notice my phone tends to be on 3G more than I remember it on my other phones. I've also seen a few complaints about static or poor sound quality from the headphone jack; I don't have this problem.
I don't play games or watch movies on my phone. These are the last phones that Motorola developed without Google and we're expecting to see some new phones soon. There's a trade show coming up at the end of February so you may want to wait and see what's going to be available soon.

mgerbasio said:
I had the DX, it was a good phone but I wasn't happy with it after the update. I then bought the RAZR Maxx, a very good phone. Now I have the M which I've had since launch day and its probably the best phone I've owned. I like the size, its built very well, sounds clear and loud, the battery lasts me all day with about 90 minutes of talk time but I had to stop Latitude reporting my location as that killed battery life. The screen size is a bit deceiving as the soft buttons take up a portion of the screen so it's more like the 4" screen of the D3 rather than the 4.3" screen of the DX, you'll notice the difference.
Overall, I like the size of the phone more than the full size RAZRs. Negatives, there are complaints that it isn't as good in getting and holding a signal as the RAZR or RAZR HD phones. I don't monitor the signal strength but I do notice my phone tends to be on 3G more than I remember it on my other phones. I've also seen a few complaints about static or poor sound quality from the headphone jack; I don't have this problem.
I don't play games or watch movies on my phone. These are the last phones that Motorola developed without Google and we're expecting to see some new phones soon. There's a trade show coming up at the end of February so you may want to wait and see what's going to be available soon.
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Can i ask you one thing: do you lose anything by disabling latitude aside from check-ins and the like? Does it limit Google Now in any way?
Thanks

You will notice a large decline in camera performance. I'm using my dad's old DX as an extra video baby monitor and I've been messing around with the camera and it's hard to believe how much better the pictures turn out compared to the M. Other than the camera the M is the best phone I've had compared to the Tbolt, Spectrum, Rezound, Bionic, and Nexus.

bolt_of_thunder said:
You will notice a large decline in camera performance. I'm using my dad's old DX as an extra video baby monitor and I've been messing around with the camera and it's hard to believe how much better the pictures turn out compared to the M. Other than the camera the M is the best phone I've had compared to the Tbolt, Spectrum, Rezound, Bionic, and Nexus.
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Odd, I actually got the M yesterday and find the camera better, if only a tiny bit.
Anyway, thanks all, thread complete

It seems to be a mixed bag. I can't get the thing to focus worth a crap even if I use the touch to focus. Macro pictures seem to be non-existent also. I love the physical shutter button on the DX. Oh well, always have my wife's bionic to take quality pictures... Not! lol

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Annddd I'm back! With a new Moto x!

Dev Edition. Woot. Again. I talked to motorola after sending back my old one. The microphone just stopped working and they would not do an exchange. They agreed to help, but couldn't give me the sale price any more so they offered me 70 bucks in free accessories. Woot
Reveal case and Dock here I come. Ugh...so glad to be sending back the nexus 5. Moto x ftw.
Anyone else have a slightly stiff power button? I pray it is normal. lol

Yeah, I'd say my DE phone is pretty stiff on the buttons....especially compared to a GS3. Did you have a DE phone before? I couldn't recall....

Locklear308 said:
Dev Edition. Woot. Again. I talked to motorola after sending back my old one. The microphone just stopped working and they would not do an exchange. They agreed to help, but couldn't give me the sale price any more so they offered me 70 bucks in free accessories. Woot
Reveal case and Dock here I come. Ugh...so glad to be sending back the nexus 5. Moto x ftw.
Anyone else have a slightly stiff power button? I pray it is normal. lol
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Root, gravity box with the sleep menu in the drop down setting + active notifications. You'll never have to use your power button again... But it becomes a habit after a long time using the power button to turn on and off the phone.
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Root, gravity box with the sleep menu in the drop down setting + active notifications. You'll never have to use your power button again... But it becomes a habit after a long time using the power button to turn on and off the phone.
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Ahhhh Gravity Box. Honestly I don't know how it hasn't became the best thing in android. IMHO it's THE best thing.
Good idea! Yeah I really missed the active stuff... It really needs to became a stock android thing. Just like touchless.

alpha-niner64 said:
Yeah, I'd say my DE phone is pretty stiff on the buttons....especially compared to a GS3. Did you have a DE phone before? I couldn't recall....
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Yeah. DE all the way man. I don't want some ghetto AT&T logo making my phone look like garbage

welcome back ! why did u send ur N5 ? how do u compare them , cause im very hesitating between N5 and Moto X !
thanks in advance!

UltimHero said:
welcome back ! why did u send ur N5 ? how do u compare them , cause im very hesitating between N5 and Moto X !
thanks in advance!
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I have both.
N5 if you like to flash stuff and want raw power, X if you want exclusive Moto features and probably the better quality phone.
They are pretty similar in most other categories.
Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....

kj2112 said:
I have both.
N5 if you like to flash stuff and want raw power, X if you want exclusive Moto features and probably the better quality phone.
They are pretty similar in most other categories.
Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....
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yeah im a bit worried in terms of build quality , how do they compare, i mean is the moto way ahead ?
thanks

UltimHero said:
yeah im a bit worried in terms of build quality , how do they compare, i mean is the moto way ahead ?
thanks
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Nah, they're fairly similar. If the exclusive Moto features aren't a concern....I think the devices are fairly equal. I'm even matching my Moto x battery life....tho I run very lean and mean.
Size is another difference. The n5 feels bigger in hand for sure. Not weight, but dimensions.
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I could use either one, but missed all the development, so gave wife my x, I have the n5.
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matching moto x's battery life with stock setup ?
thanks its very helpful !

UltimHero said:
matching moto x's battery life with stock setup ?
thanks its very helpful !
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Not really stock. Slimkat, bricked kernel. Everything pretty much off. Greenified, etc. Same as I did with the x tho.
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kj2112 said:
I have both.
N5 if you like to flash stuff and want raw power, X if you want exclusive Moto features and probably the better quality phone.
They are pretty similar in most other categories.
Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....
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I agree 100%. I had both for a while, ended up keeping the X instead. I definitely miss flashing stuff all day but I just don't have the time. I spend too much time on xda as it stands
MotoX Developer Edition went from German 4.4.2 to Great Britain 4.4.2 to T-Mobile 4.4.2 no problem. Fastboot FTW!

kj2112 said:
Nah, they're fairly similar. If the exclusive Moto features aren't a concern....I think the devices are fairly equal. I'm even matching my Moto x battery life....tho I run very lean and mean.
Size is another difference. The n5 feels bigger in hand for sure. Not weight, but dimensions.
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I could use either one, but missed all the development, so gave wife my x, I have the n5.
Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....
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Looks like the creator of omnirom has figured oqut how to use the snapdragon 800 processor on the n5 to have touch less control... Still in beta be on the lookout. Along with dynamic notifications you got yourself the moto x on the n5.
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Looks like the creator of omnirom has figured oqut how to use the snapdragon 800 processor on the n5 to have touch less control... Still in beta be on the lookout. Along with dynamic notifications you got yourself the moto x on the n5.
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Call me old fashioned, but I'm liking the led notification light. With light flow app I've changed colors for different notifications and what not. Pretty cool.
Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....

UltimHero said:
welcome back ! why did u send ur N5 ? how do u compare them , cause im very hesitating between N5 and Moto X !
thanks in advance!
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Better feel in hand, solid feel. MUCH BETTER SPEAKER. I mean my god. Feels just as fast as the N5. Screen isn't as sharp...BUT you get AMOLED colors, which I love.
Battery life is GOD LIKE at least for me. Moto x is much better

Locklear308 said:
Better feel in hand, solid feel. MUCH BETTER SPEAKER. I mean my god. Feels just as fast as the N5. Screen isn't as sharp...BUT you get AMOLED colors, which I love.
Battery life is GOD LIKE at least for me. Moto x is much better
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Every time I come closer to deciding I see another point of view...X)
I really like the X but I in Europe there is only the unlocked version no DE ,no moto maker , and for the same price .plus the lenovo deal is really worrying me I really like moto under Google's lead ...what do you guys think ?
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UltimHero said:
Every time I come closer to deciding I see another point of view...X)
I really like the X but I in Europe there is only the unlocked version no DE ,no moto maker , and for the same price .plus the lenovo deal is really worrying me I really like moto under Google's lead ...what do you guys think ?
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I don't have an unlocked version I'm on at&t. I came from a 32 gig gs4 to a 16 gig moto x. I do admit there's times when I wish I had more gigs because I would love to keep more music on my device for maybe going to the gym or on car rides, but I have Pandora so that compensates for that. The things I love is active notifications, coming from an iPhone where you had your notifications on the lock screen its really useful in the end, paired up with touch less control saying what's up? And it reads your messages for you. On the nexus 5 you have to be on the homescreen and you have to have the Google now launcher to use the "OK Google" voice command. On moto x it has touch less control with the phone off you can just say "OK Google now" and it responds.. Say I'm driving and here in California its illegal to text and drive and I need directions or need to text or make a call touch less control helps with that. Also active assist is awesome! While your driving if you get an incoming text or call it will read your message to you and you can respond back or pick up a call for you. Pair this up with great headphones with a mic and your good to go. I'm using my gs4 headphones and it works great with it.
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UltimHero said:
Every time I come closer to deciding I see another point of view...X)
I really like the X but I in Europe there is only the unlocked version no DE ,no moto maker , and for the same price .plus the lenovo deal is really worrying me I really like moto under Google's lead ...what do you guys think ?
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4
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As far as my experience with the N5 and Moto X, I prefer the Moto X for a few variables. Of course, the big things that appealed to me in general with the first few hours of usage was the quality over the Nexus 5. Specifically the phone's speaker and sound card. Also, the phone takes less work in order to maximize battery. I ran stock rooted for the first few months I owned my Moto X until I saw Faux make his kernel, and that is the only reason I decided to even flash. Other than that, I just enjoy an AOSP experience with a few extra add on that makes the phone a much more pleasurable experience.
As far as 1080P resolution vs 720P resolution, I've always wanted manufacturers to opt for 720P as I understand the screen is a bit clearer, but you gain so much more battery life!
Driving Mode/Driving Assist is one of the biggest features for me as I drive quite a bit with incoming text being read out to me, and allowing me to respond back via my voice. As well as the ability to just continue driving, and suddenly your device plays your current music from your specified app that you prefer music to stream from!
The biggest thing that Moto X has to offer is the fact that this phone is the closest thing to AOSP with extra goodies that make the phone unnecessary to root, unless you're a flashaholic, which you are still able to with this phone. Just overall, this phone is a +3 more on a scale of 1 to 10 of N5 experience.
Kenichi

Kenichi said:
As far as my experience with the N5 and Moto X, I prefer the Moto X for a few variables. Of course, the big things that appealed to me in general with the first few hours of usage was the quality over the Nexus 5. Specifically the phone's speaker and sound card. Also, the phone takes less work in order to maximize battery. I ran stock rooted for the first few months I owned my Moto X until I saw Faux make his kernel, and that is the only reason I decided to even flash. Other than that, I just enjoy an AOSP experience with a few extra add on that makes the phone a much more pleasurable experience.
As far as 1080P resolution vs 720P resolution, I've always wanted manufacturers to opt for 720P as I understand the screen is a bit clearer, but you gain so much more battery life!
Driving Mode/Driving Assist is one of the biggest features for me as I drive quite a bit with incoming text being read out to me, and allowing me to respond back via my voice. As well as the ability to just continue driving, and suddenly your device plays your current music from your specified app that you prefer music to stream from!
The biggest thing that Moto X has to offer is the fact that this phone is the closest thing to AOSP with extra goodies that make the phone unnecessary to root, unless you're a flashaholic, which you are still able to with this phone. Just overall, this phone is a +3 more on a scale of 1 to 10 of N5 experience.
Kenichi
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I agree! i don't wh it feels like the moto x's forums r dead ! what do u think of the build quality between both ?cameras ?
thanks mate

UltimHero said:
I agree! i don't wh it feels like the moto x's forums r dead ! what do u think of the build quality between both ?cameras ?
thanks mate
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I'd take a snippet for you for each of the cameras but all in all. To stack up against each other, I find that the iPhone 5S camera is superior to the mobile world, aside from the Note 3's camera which is INSANE! But comparison of the N5, Moto X, and 5S. I think that the 5S > Moto X > N5. I agree the N5 camera is good, but it doesn't capture as much true colors as I find that it struggles to carry colors. I'd take the Moto X's camera any day, it's just consistent and the colors are generally quite close to my DSLR I use.
As far as build quality, hands down again, the Moto X takes the steals vs the N5! But compared to the iPhone 5S, I'm not sure, because the two are made out of two completely different material, and I find that I like metal phones, but it's not as a big of a deal with the Moto X because I enjoy the experience very much!
I think these forums feels dead, because there are very little users on it anyways. It's not that it's a bad phone, but it wasn't a popular phone either because many of my mobile friends weren't interested in it for the fact that it lacked in hardware, and they don't care for the software very much. Or they find that they prefer the hardware over software. I feel that people haven't given this phone a chance to impress them is all. All well! I hope the next Moto generates a lot of commotion, because it is in my honest opinion, the best phone of Android hands down. Simplistic, and it just works!
Kenichi

Nexus 5 to Moto X

After having issues with the N5's very poor call quality as well as sending double texts to my recipients. 10 replacements later and I've decided to switch to a Moto X.
Specs wise, I wouldn't say it's an upgrade from the Nexus 5 but not a downgrade either.
The O/S is nice and clean with just a few useful features added by Motorola.
Absolutely loving the Active Notifications, Motorola Connect (text from my Chrome), Motorola Assist etc. They're so useful.
Best feature is the voice recognition. It's so accurate it's scary lol. Much more accurate than the Nexus 5.
Best of all, call quality is superb!
The screen is smaller but my thumb used to often struggle to reach certain parts of the Nexus 5 screen which I don't have to worry about any more. I think it's a good balance between size and comfort.
The speaker is miles louder than the one in my N5. Massive difference!!
The phone feels fluid as the N5.
There's only one area I've noticed any slowness so far. That's in restoring my 16000+ text messages using SMS Backup & Restore. It took a fair bit longer than my N5 did. Not a big deal though as only needed to do it once.
I've got a usable phone and some money in my pocket on top. Can't complain.
Oh that Motorola Migrate feature didn't work for me when I tried it. Only tried it once though.
Most of my stuff is in the cloud anyway.
I do miss the wireless charging though but it's a loss I was willing to take as the Moto X benefits far outweigh the need to move away from the N5.

There should not be any difference in voice recognition as both phones rely on Google for that. I haven't noticed any difference between the two. ( Moto X is slightly better at picking up voice in noisy environment from little more distance. That's about it. Might have something to do with microphone quality. But when nexus 5 is held close, they're is virtually no difference in accuracy)
But yeah, Other than more consistent camera on nexus 5 after the update, I would take Moto X over nexus 5 any given day. In fact I came from Nexus 5 to moto x. I never really had any of the voice quality issues on nexus 5 either but overall I like the feel of Moto X. And love the active notifications.
From my Moto X, in your face!

I'm so tempted to get a nexus =( my flashing habits are going crazy with all those non-existent roms for my X

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I'm so tempted to get a nexus =( my flashing habits are going crazy with all those non-existent roms for my X
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When friends and family see mine and my wife's phones (me n5 now, her moto x) and they ask if I recommend them, my advice is always the same.
Moto x if you just want a great and smooth phone.
N5 if they are techy and may want to mess with the phone.
Thats my standard advice. They are both great phones....but for the non techy, the moto x is definitely the best choice. ?
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Battery life is better on the moto x by miles.
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Battery life is better on the moto x by miles.
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For the "everything on" people perhaps you are right....not miles though...but the x is probably a bit better.
But...I have both, and both get over 24 hours on a charge, and both can get over 6 hours screen time. With most things off of course. And greenified, and screen not too bright. I guess the x is slightly better on average for me...but only slightly. Oh...and I rarely use the "phone"....I'm a texter. ?
If set up for maximum battery life...both are excellent. But many want everything on....so they will lose more battery for sure. Much more.
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I am loving Motorola Connect, it is so convenient. It is going to take some fantastic phone to get me to change from my MotoX Dev Edition.
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I previously had a developer edition moto x one of the first on here to get one and then I bought into the nexus 5 hype and am back to a moto X. It is an all around better phone than the N5. No its ands or butts. Also to concur with the previous poster the voice recognition is better on the X because of the dedicated speech engine. The X has the perfect ergonomics just as fluid and fast, screen is actually better inho and the speaker is miles better. I get just as good pica from my X than the supposedly better n5. The only thing the N5 camera truly has on it is the OIS. Lastly motos extras are worth the price of admission all by themselves.
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younger06 said:
I am loving Motorola Connect, it is so convenient. It is going to take some fantastic phone to get me to change from my MotoX Dev Edition.
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I love this feature too especially when at work as it stops me fiddling around with my phone which can make others around me think I'm never off it.
This way I can discreetly reply to contacts and keep tabs of phone calls

Wutang200 said:
I love this feature too especially when at work as it stops me fiddling around with my phone which can make others around me think I'm never off it.
This way I can discreetly reply to contacts and keep tabs of phone calls
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I compared the speaker quality with my partners HTC 8X (which comes with Beats Audio) and mine actually sounds like it has a slightly higher frequency making treble sound like it's going to pop out. Very clear! The volume is just as loud as hers.

I unwillingly came from a N5 by dropping it and shattering the screen. Had been eyeing the moto x for a bit and decided to pick a like-new condition used one for cheap. Boy am I glad that I did. On paper everyone knocks it, but in actuality it's probably the best android phone I have ever used out of the box. No stock experience is as good, and this is my 7th android phone since 2009. Voice recognition is better hands down because of the dedicated processor. Active display is by far one of the best features out of any android device today. Form factor is excellent (N5 was good but ever so slightly too big for me), voice quality is better (both on speaker and off).
Battery life on STOCK Moto X is as good as my N5 was when I was rooted, underclocking, undervolting, except I have everything turned on (location, auto brightness, touchless controls, active display, etc. etc.).

I just (unwillingly) landed a moto x after living the luxury of lg's g2, and sadly I am extremely let down.
I had high hopes for the moto x, and don't get me wrong, for the average user not wanting to spend much on a phone, the moto x is a great choice, and has a lot less manufacturer and carrier bloat than much of its competition, but stacked next to the g2 I feel like I'm being punished.
I won't go to much into screen size because a lot of that is user preference, but personally I always thought that phablet sized phone were too much (and still do). The g2 still felt natural even with its larger size, where I find the moto x uncomfortable.
The moto x stock camera is actually pretty nice. My g2 was running cyanogenmod and the camera was slow as hell, but still took good pictures, the moto x is much faster.
Battery life is upsetting on the moto x compared to the g2. My g2 could survive 2 days of heavy use with everything on and just start entering the 15% low battery range. The moto x hardly makes it through one day (with most of the carrier/manufacturer boat apps disabled).
The screen color and brightness on the moto x are annoyingly over saturated. The amoled obviously isn't doing the battery and favors, so I'm pretty sold on the true IPS offered in the g2 as superior for battery and for display performance (and in not taking about resolution difference).
The microphone for calls on the moto x hardly picks my voice up (no issues on the g2)
The rear speaker on the moto x is actually louder and more clear than the g2, so that's nice.
But then the last nail in the coffin for me was the headphone quality. The g2 without modification has roughly the same volume output as the moto x, but the audio quality on the moto x is a joke. To make matters worse, if you use an auxiliary input in your car and plug the phone into a car charger while paying music and then unplug the car charger mid song you'll hear a pretty ridiculous difference in audio quality. It's as if the phone refuses to put any effort into making audio sound decent unless it's charging. And no this isn't a grounding issue, it's actually the phone putting less power towards the audio output when it's not charging, and it really kills the sound unless it's plugged in.
Anyway, as soon as I'm able to jump ship I'm headed back to LG land and probably not going to visit MOTOville again for a LONG time.
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iXNyNe said:
I just (unwillingly) landed a moto x after living the luxury of lg's g2, and sadly I am extremely let down.
I had high hopes for the moto x, and don't get me wrong, for the average user not wanting to spend much on a phone, the moto x is a great choice, and has a lot less manufacturer and carrier bloat than much of its competition, but stacked next to the g2 I feel like I'm being punished.
I won't go to much into screen size because a lot of that is user preference, but personally I always thought that phablet sized phone were too much (and still do). The g2 still felt natural even with its larger size, where I find the moto x uncomfortable.
The moto x stock camera is actually pretty nice. My g2 was running cyanogenmod and the camera was slow as hell, but so took good pictures, the moto x is much faster.
Battery life is upsetting on the moto x compared to the g2. My g2 could survive 2 days of heavy use with everything on and just start entering the 15% low battery range. The moto x hardly makes it through one day (with most of the carrier/manufacturer boat apps disabled).
The screen color and brightness on the moto x are annoyingly over saturated. The amoled obviously isn't doing the battery and favors, so I'm pretty sold on the true IPS offered in the g2 as superior for battery and for display performance (and in not taking about resolution difference).
The microphone for calls on the moto x hardly picks my voice up (no issues on the g2)
The rear speaker on the moto x is actually louder and more clear than the g2, so that's nice.
But then the last nail in the coffin for me was the headphone quality. The g2 without modification has roughly the same volume output as the moto x, but the audio quality on the moto x is a joke. To make matters worse, if you use an auxiliary input in your car and plug the phone into a car charger while paying music and then unplug the car charger mid song you'll hear a pretty ridiculous difference in audio quality. It's as if the phone refuses to put any effort into making audio sound decent unless it's charging. And no this isn't a grounding issue, it's actually the phone putting less power towards the audio output when it's not charging, and it really kills the sound unless it's plugged in.
Anyway, as soon as I'm able to jump ship I'm headed back to LG land and probably not going to visit MOTOville again for a LONG time.
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in my opinion the Nexus 5 is much better than the Motorola X, a much faster and with 2 cores more, better gpu for gaming and graphics, better display quality and higher definition processor, I just think that the Motorola x is better in voice prompts and little gross ... but in comparison the Nexus 5 takes the cake ... the processor is noted and much, greetings
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I also came from a 32gb nexus 5 to a 16gb moto x. And the n5 is just a bit faster not much though. My op the moto is way better for me. Just on the edge of 1 handed use. Where the nexus was very much 2 handed. I still have the nexus and I will not go back. X is the perfect all around phone. Size,speed,camera, screen,camera. Not the best in any but the best all together
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Its funny the two people who chose the other phones over the X were all about specs while the others are actually about the usage of a phone. I never understood the spec war its like having a Ferrari with nowhere to drive it. If you cant use it all that horsepower is a waste
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AndreaCristiano said:
Its funny the two people who chose the other phones over the X were all about specs while the others are actually about the usage of a phone. I never understood the spec war its like having a Ferrari with nowhere to drive it. If you cant use it all that horsepower is a waste
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... No...
See my post #12 right above yours on the same page.
The points I made have nothing to do with specs, just actual usage. Things that will actually make the experience of using the phone measurably different for a non-technical user.
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I also came from a 32gb nexus 5 to a 16gb moto x. And the n5 is just a bit faster not much though. My op the moto is way better for me. Just on the edge of 1 handed use. Where the nexus was very much 2 handed. I still have the nexus and I will not go back. X is the perfect all around phone. Size,speed,camera, screen,camera. Not the best in any but the best all together
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I agree with you as I noticed the same things.
I couldn't use my N5 as a phone as nobody could ever hear me the microphone quality is that bad. Most of the time I couldn't even hear them so a majority of each call was spent shouting hello to each other.
I've not noticed any speed difference between the N5 and Moto X. Browsing through the menus is very smooth and fluid, opening apps is almost instant, web page browsing is just the same too. Only difference was when restoring a high number of text messages which is where the N5 came into it's own.
But doing every day tasks such as phone calls, adding memos, adding calendar entries, Spotify, Facebook, Twitter, WhatApp, taking photos, etc, there is no difference at all that I've noticed.
If I were just given the N5 and Moto X to play with without being given the spec of either, I wouldn't be able to tell any difference in speed.
Also it's the most comfortable phone I've ever owned by a mile. No longer need both hands to operate the phone like I had to do with the N5. Screen size is perfect for me.

I have a question for you guys that had both: which camera is better?

AndreaCristiano said:
Its funny the two people who chose the other phones over the X were all about specs while the others are actually about the usage of a phone. I never understood the spec war its like having a Ferrari with nowhere to drive it. If you cant use it all that horsepower is a waste
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Nicely said.

AnandTech Review - Moto X (2nd gen)

Just taking some time to share this fresh review with you guys. Enjoy.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8523/the-new-motorola-moto-x-2014-review

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Just taking some time to share this fresh review with you guys. Enjoy.
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Thanks for posting... As we can expect from AT, it was a more technically oriented review and had some of their usual good insights at the component level. Maybe the technical slant of their reviews colored the conclusion, but I felt the review didn't speak enough to the overall strength of the user experience. Not that it was a bad review - it definitely covered the quantitative aspects of the battery, screen, camera and SOC performance - but I think what was missing was balancing that against the experience of actually using the Moto X as a phone.
My plan is to jump on one in another month or two after my current contract expires, so for me there's time to wait for more reviews from actual users to get a true picture.

dstr72 said:
Thanks for posting... As we can expect from AT, it was a more technically oriented review and had some of their usual good insights at the component level. Maybe the technical slant of their reviews colored the conclusion, but I felt the review didn't speak enough to the overall strength of the user experience. Not that it was a bad review - it definitely covered the quantitative aspects of the battery, screen, camera and SOC performance - but I think what was missing was balancing that against the experience of actually using the Moto X as a phone.
My plan is to jump on one in another month or two after my current contract expires, so for me there's time to wait for more reviews from actual users to get a true picture.
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I tend to agree with you. It is easy to criticize someone on the choices they make but you have to appreciate the effort that they have put in. They may not have made the best android phone but they have gotten a lot of things right. Moto X 2013 was my favorite phone last year since it was a good balance between all the things I wanted in a phone and after going through everything from S5 to M8, I'm hoping Moto X 2014 will be the perfect balance one more time. IMHO, of course.

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I tend to agree with you. It is easy to criticize someone on the choices they make but you have to appreciate the effort that they have put in. They may not have made the best android phone but they have gotten a lot of things right. Moto X 2013 was my favorite phone last year since it was a good balance between all the things I wanted in a phone and after going through everything from S5 to M8, I'm hoping Moto X 2014 will be the perfect balance one more time. IMHO, of course.
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I agree
These battery tests with scripts are not even real world usage, no matter what they say. Scripts running could bring in other factors, like wakelocks, blah blah blah. So it boils down to users, and their usage. I am betting it'll be fine with me
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I agree
These battery tests with scripts are not even real world usage, no matter what they say. Scripts running could bring in other factors, like wakelocks, blah blah blah. So it boils down to users, and their usage. I am betting it'll be fine with me
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+1, I would be happier with a bigger battery but I'm fine with 2.300mha. According to extensive reviews I saw already I don't believe battery would be a problem but yes I'm worried about the camera. I saw a lot of noise of sample pictures and I take a lot of photos of my children. I'm not saying the camera is bad, it is really great for the price but if I could pay a little more and get a better camera I'd do it right away.
Because of camera I'm thinking about Galaxy Note 4. Great cam and great screen but I had a Galaxy s4 before and I, like many others, dislike touchwiz and the slow updates. Right now I don't know exactly what to do, the price of moto x is extremely appealing and Android L won't take long to show up. I'm fine with battery, I'm fine with the single speaker (it's on front anyway) but the camera is holding me back. Maybe not for so long - but I want to check more sample pictures before jump on the boat.

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+1, I would be happier with a bigger battery but I'm fine with 2.300mha. According to extensive reviews I saw already I don't believe battery would be a problem but yes I'm worried about the camera. I saw a lot of noise of sample pictures and I take a lot of photos of my children. I'm not saying the camera is bad, it is really great for the price but if I could pay a little more and get a better camera I'd do it right away.
Because of camera I'm thinking about Galaxy Note 4. Great cam and great screen but I had a Galaxy s4 before and I, like many others, dislike touchwiz and the slow updates. Right now I don't know exactly what to do, the price of moto x is extremely appealing and Android L won't take long to show up. I'm fine with battery, I'm fine with the single speaker (it's on front anyway) but the camera is holding me back. Maybe not for so long - but I want to check more sample pictures before jump on the boat.
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I feel you. The camera isn't that bad, when I saw pics. It depends on the lighting. But maybe consider buying a small, cheap camera? Moto X + cheap camera = a Note 4 probably. But having two devices is a cause of concern, so I understand
My battery on my n4 is 2100mah and it can't even get half of what Moto X gets. That's pretty good to me, since n4 battery is only 200mah less
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I feel you. The camera isn't that bad, when I saw pics. It depends on the lighting. But maybe consider buying a small, cheap camera? Moto X + cheap camera = a Note 4 probably. But having two devices is a cause of concern, so I understand
My battery on my n4 is 2100mah and it can't even get half of what Moto X gets. That's pretty good to me, since n4 battery is only 200mah less
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You're absolutely right, having two devices is exactly the problem to me. And don't get me wrong, when I talk to much about the camera maybe seems like I want a fantastic and ultimate quality camera but something on par with GS4 that is two years old now or more would be perfect fine to me. I'm complaining but in the end I think I'll do get a moto x. Like we said before, it's not the best android available but when you see the big picture it's a really great and balanced set.

Wow. Thanks for the link to review which I read in its entirety. This is giving me pause and I just received email from moto that my order is in assembly stage. I may cancel the order and wait for Nexus. I also think this phone will be discounted by Xmas like last year. ;(
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markwebb said:
Wow. Thanks for the link to review which I read in its entirety. This is giving me pause and I just received email from moto that my order is in assembly stage. I may cancel the order and wait for Nexus. I also think this phone will be discounted by Xmas like last year. ;(
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What do you mean discontinued? The OG x was never discontinued was it?

matt99017d said:
What do you mean discontinued? The OG x was never discontinued was it?
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He said "discounted" lol
Idk if the new Moto X will get discounted by much, since looking at the chipset, it's really up to date. Even the s5 hardly got a discount. I don't expect it
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He said "discounted" lol
Idk if the new Moto X will get discounted by much, since looking at the chipset, it's really up to date. Even the s5 hardly got a discount. I don't expect it
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True. But if sales are slow like last year I wouldn't be surprised at a slight reduction to move them during the holidays to compete with you know who.
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The thing I found most notable about this review was the complete dismissal of Moto Voice. For me, this was one of the best attributes of the original Moto X, and it worked well enough to impress iPhone users with its text-message-by-voice feature that mostly "Just Worked." Mileage may vary, obviously, for anyone who spends any time in a car this is a potentially very useful feature.
It'd be nice if the battery life reports had come back better, but they seem more or less as performant as the original model which for me was adequate if not ideal. Throw in the turbo charger, which will theoretically provide a useful enough charge of a 15 minute power up and I'm sold.

Pocketnow just posted their review and he got 4 hours screen on time with 18 hours worth of usage and he used it with Moto 360 and all the bells and whistles. He liked the phone so much that he ordered his own since he was using review unit for a few days.
People just find reasons to hate on something. Motorola is like the guru of battery management. I start using my Moto 360 around 8am and when I put it back on charger at 10pm, I still have 50% battery left. I'm sure Moto X will be similar and I am not worried about it at all. You're always around a charging port in car, in house and at work so why worry?
It could have been better, could have been worse too but who cares. It's a great device overall and I'd be happy to own one

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Pocketnow just posted their review and he got 4 hours screen on time with 18 hours worth of usage and he used it with Moto 360 and all the bells and whistles. He liked the phone so much that he ordered his own since he was using review unit for a few days.
People just find reasons to hate on something. Motorola is like the guru of battery management. I start using my Moto 360 around 8am and when I put it back on charger at 10pm, I still have 50% battery left. I'm sure Moto X will be similar and I am not worried about it at all. You're always around a charging port in car, in house and at work so why worry?
It could have been better, could have been worse too but who cares. It's a great device overall and I'd be happy to own one
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If pocketnow tested the battery by actually using the phone and not by scripts (which I presume he did), then that just shows that running custom made scripts brings in some other factors that will kill battery. I can't trust reviews solely basing battery on scripts. I've read many reports saying that the phone was used and lasted for over 10 hours or whatever
Thank you for bringing more good news on this phone and its battery lol
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Using scripts to test battery life is fine, but were they really expecting? If you keep two phones on with roughly the same SoC and roughly the same screensize, but one has a larger battery, of course the one with the larger battery is going to win.
I'm more interested in knowing how the Moto X is optimized. When the screen is off, how frequent are the wakelocks? How is the ROM tailored to optimize the phone's battery life when it's not in use?
Does anyone know a site that runs those kinds of tests?

noobsquared said:
Pocketnow just posted their review and he got 4 hours screen on time with 18 hours worth of usage and he used it with Moto 360 and all the bells and whistles. He liked the phone so much that he ordered his own since he was using review unit for a few days.
People just find reasons to hate on something. Motorola is like the guru of battery management. I start using my Moto 360 around 8am and when I put it back on charger at 10pm, I still have 50% battery left. I'm sure Moto X will be similar and I am not worried about it at all. You're always around a charging port in car, in house and at work so why worry?
It could have been better, could have been worse too but who cares. It's a great device overall and I'd be happy to own one
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I just read the review and it wasn't a ringing endorsement as they had some concerns expressed towards the end of the article:
http://pocketnow.com/2014/09/18/moto-x-2014-review
Is there another I am missing?
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joelteixeira said:
Just taking some time to share this fresh review with you guys. Enjoy.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8523/the-new-motorola-moto-x-2014-review
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I used to like anandtech because they could give real world meaning to synthetic benchmarks. I miss the user experience. Even the verge, which always seems very apple biased rated the moto x 8.8 (vs iphone6 9.0), when they verge likes an android phone that much you know it must be good (even if it doesn't have *the best* camera)

Pocketnow basically concluded. It's no better than the predecessor and I agree. Barely an improvement if any.. I had a bad feeling. Maybe Lenovo screwed this up, who knows.

cipsaz said:
Pocketnow basically concluded. It's no better than the predecessor and I agree. Barely an improvement if any.. I had a bad feeling. Maybe Lenovo screwed this up, who knows.
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but... they gave it an 8.9 lol
edit: from listening to the review, they're only disappointed with the camera. and, like he says in the vid, their readers actually liked last years cam. i won't say i like the cam on my current one, but it's not total crap either. it's usable.
edit: and the battery. but he ends it with saying he's purchased it haha.
i personally think battery and camera can be slightly underwhelming considering the package as a whole. my only complaint deals more with the screen but we'll see how that turns out.

sogrady said:
The thing I found most notable about this review was the complete dismissal of Moto Voice. For me, this was one of the best attributes of the original Moto X, and it worked well enough to impress iPhone users with its text-message-by-voice feature that mostly "Just Worked." Mileage may vary, obviously, for anyone who spends any time in a car this is a potentially very useful feature.
It'd be nice if the battery life reports had come back better, but they seem more or less as performant as the original model which for me was adequate if not ideal. Throw in the turbo charger, which will theoretically provide a useful enough charge of a 15 minute power up and I'm sold.
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Ever since I ported my Google voice number over to a real number. I use moto voice non stop while driving. You can kind of make it work on other phones if you do the okay Google on any screen but you have to have it plugged in and have it set to never turn the screen off while charging. There are apps that will read out your texts but none seem as refined as moto assists features. If the next nexus somehow gets moto voice I'll probably end up with that but I'll probably sacrifice battery to get the next moto x. From reading. It seems it's on par with the 2013 moto x at least.
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Will Moto Display Only Work If you Accept The Privacy Agreement in Moto App?

Second Motorola phone, but first experience with the Moto toys. Frankly, I miss the LED. When I get an email, a Google Voice text or an SMS (using TextSecure), my phone tells me nothing beyond the audio sound.
I see on videos that the display is supposed to pulse every now and then with the info. Yet, mine does not.
I decided not to use the features in the Moto App, the Voice and Assist doesn't appeal to me right now. Thus, that app is waiting for my permission and I see Display is under it's umbrella. Is this why the "active display" feature is not working for me?

Yes. It's an option in there under display.
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I got it somewhat working, but the screen does not "pulse" like previous Moto X phones. Is that correct? If I get an email or a text, the phone makes a sound and the screen lights up once. I thought the point of the screen lighting up was to replace the LED, in other words I thought it was supposed to pulse or breath until you notice it.

No as that would drain the battery massively on an LCD screen. Of course it was OK on amoled screen.
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ephumuris said:
No as that would drain the battery massively on an LCD screen. Of course it was OK on amoled screen.
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You're worried about battery life on this beast?

dicecuber said:
You're worried about battery life on this beast?
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Absolutely. My one plus one had similar battery, with a smaller battery and faster processor.

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Absolutely. My one plus one had similar battery, with a smaller battery and faster processor.
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Was I talking to you?

dicecuber said:
Was I talking to you?
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Nope, but I made it clear I was talking to you, didn't I.

dicecuber said:
You're worried about battery life on this beast?
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Not so much worried but I'm a heavy user. Only get Max 5 hours screen on compared to some peoples 7-8. It's nice to conserve it. Cm12 battery is much better and ambient display better than moto version anyway.
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The Moto X Style has a LCD screen too and its even larger, the battery is smaller too. But it still repeats notifications (breathing). This is a huge fail on the Moto X Play.

Uludag said:
The Moto X Style has a LCD screen too and its even larger, the battery is smaller too. But it still repeats notifications (breathing). This is a huge fail on the Moto X Play.
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Yeah definitely doesn't make sense