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According to Wikipedia, the Schiphone Dream G2 phone runs android os. I looked around on google and looks like it doesn't and only imitates it.
If it does, can it be ported over?
No. No. This phone is a well-made imitation. I tried an actual set and wow, it had an awesome "android" look and feel. However, it most definately is not an android phone. How do I know? There isn't the marketplace app on this phone. Also it is stated on many sites that it doesnt not run on android, but rather it has "android look" simply, android UI, nothing more. And one more thing, you really trust wiki?
It says in wiki it is Windows mobile powered. it is?
No it does not... It runs on RTOS ( Real time operating system ) and has a android like interface ........... so in short its just a copy as in the china iphone
( Hiphone)
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If you change the "User Agent" on the Dolphin browser to iPhone or iPad then when you browse the Web you will automatically be invited by many sites to download iPhone or iPad applications which are applicable to the site to enhance your experience. That rarely, if ever happens when using the Android "User Agent" and shows how much better the iPhone and iPad are supported on the Web. In addition, many professional services such as stock market trading are only available on Apple devices.
Now that Android based hardware such as the Note and the Galaxy Tab 10.1 are as good as the iPhone and iPad it is time for attention to be paid to the experience of using the Android hardware. I would like to watch Sky TV or trade on the stock market on my Note but I cannot do that because there are no applications for Android being supplied by Sky or the major stock market sites. But these applications are available on the iPhone and the iPad.
There seems to be too much emphasis on Android about the technical aspects from users and not enough about applications. At the moment, it is lack of applications which is the Achilles Heel of Android and it is a problem which will not be solved easily or quickly. It is time for Android users to raise their concerns about lack of support for Android on the Web and ask Google and the manufacturers to get it sorted. Else it may take years before Android catches up with Apple and Android tablets will continue to lag behind the iPad because of lack of applications.
Totally dont agree. There are so many android apps. Back in the days such Popupps were considered annoying and benevolent. What caused a lot of virusses and malware to be installed because a lot of people clicked yes. Can't believe some people consider it a feature now. I am glad Android does not have that.
I think the OP's comment is valid. However, if you compare the utility of Android vs iOS with Linux vs Windows on the desktop, then I think Android is doing relatively well.
It is all a matter of what you want to do with a devce and then get the one that does it best. So if the I-stuff does the things you want better, then just get your I-stuff to do it. If however android does it better then get an Android device. If your needs are mixed, then just get both...
Don't you ppl use the "desktop" user agent in dolphin? i don't know about the "showing iPhone apps in webpages" you're talking. What are the advantages in iPad user agent?
Coming from iOS i agree with the 2nd paragraph, i miss some apps. That's life, there's also awesome apps in android i didn't know about 'till now. I'm also still in shock how i was living without flash. Without being essential it's nice to have it when needed.
I use opera with desktop user agent enabled. Best browsing experience on a mobile I've ever had.
Also using Opera as Desktop client.
I think, that the problem you are showing will dissappear in the future, as more and more companys/developers are moving away from ios apps towards Html5 pages.
Especially for newspapers and subscription stuff, the fee apple takes is too high.
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If you change the "User Agent" on the Dolphin browser to iPhone or iPad then when you browse the Web you will automatically be invited by many sites to download iPhone or iPad applications which are applicable to the site to enhance your experience. That rarely, if ever happens when using the Android "User Agent" and shows how much better the iPhone and iPad are supported on the Web. In addition, many professional services such as stock market trading are only available on Apple devices.
Now that Android based hardware such as the Note and the Galaxy Tab 10.1 are as good as the iPhone and iPad it is time for attention to be paid to the experience of using the Android hardware. I would like to watch Sky TV or trade on the stock market on my Note but I cannot do that because there are no applications for Android being supplied by Sky or the major stock market sites. But these applications are available on the iPhone and the iPad.
There seems to be too much emphasis on Android about the technical aspects from users and not enough about applications. At the moment, it is lack of applications which is the Achilles Heel of Android and it is a problem which will not be solved easily or quickly. It is time for Android users to raise their concerns about lack of support for Android on the Web and ask Google and the manufacturers to get it sorted. Else it may take years before Android catches up with Apple and Android tablets will continue to lag behind the iPad because of lack of applications.
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I don't know if the application described below is available for Android tablets, but if not then it is another example why the iPad is outselling Android tablets. I just hope that ICS will attract more developers to Android so that it can catch up with Apple.
"You can buy the Kevin Kling-Chris Monroe picture book “Big Little Brother” for $17.95 and read it to your child. Or you can buy the iPad app of “Big Little Brother” for $7.99 and hear Kling read it himself — and also watch the characters move and hear the toys talk."
William Haven said:
Don't you ppl use the "desktop" user agent in dolphin? i don't know about the "showing iPhone apps in webpages" you're talking. What are the advantages in iPad user agent?
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I couldn't agree more. When I browse the web I always use desktop agent. Why cripple the browsing experience when you can use the full web access with flash etc... ?
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I don't know if the application described below is available for Android tablets, but if not then it is another example why the iPad is outselling Android tablets. I just hope that ICS will attract more developers to Android so that it can catch up with Apple.
"You can buy the Kevin Kling-Chris Monroe picture book “Big Little Brother” for $17.95 and read it to your child. Or you can buy the iPad app of “Big Little Brother” for $7.99 and hear Kling read it himself — and also watch the characters move and hear the toys talk."
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I agree with you sir!
We android guys don't get all this love from the devs!
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Just to be sure im not making this thread cause im a ios funboy..its the other way arround..i respect both OS's as i think many of us here but i always wanted to ask something that is bothering me for a long time..
As i enter my 2nd year as a android user and using iOS since iphone 3G i was in love with the iOS but always envy the interface and openess that android had to offer...so when iOS became extremly boring to me i switch to android and im in love with it..so many options so many features so much to learn...
But the main question...even as android is a great OS why it not quite good as iOS in terms of stability,battery life,smoothness.
I see somewhere that android has problems with the memory and how its used...i can't remember the exact techical term that i saw on this post but if anyone has some techinal knowlage over this question i will be happy to hear his thought!!
Thanks and sorry if this is extremly off topic!!
You mean memory leak issue? And yeah it is correct that the android os can't use the full potential of the hardware it's been provided with
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You mean memory leak issue? And yeah it is correct that the android os can't use the full potential of the hardware it's been provided with
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Yeah but why??not even on nexus devices that are meant to use android??
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Yeah but why??not even on nexus devices that are meant to use android??
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I don't know i am only a reader like you read it in a blog by androidauthority if i remember correct
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abhinav quietly brilliant said:
You mean memory leak issue? And yeah it is correct that the android os can't use the full potential of the hardware it's been provided with
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what are you talking about? what memory leak bug? i have no memory leak on my n4(i constsnlty have between 1400-1600mb free ram, maybe youre using the wrong rom/kernel or you dont take control of your apps). and also, android can use the potential of the hardware, but the app developers have to write their apps that way. thats not an android issue, its the issue of some bad app developers.
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I don't know i am only a reader like you read it in a blog by androidauthority if i remember correct
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ha!
so if its written in a blog, then it MUST be the truth. because everything found online is true(the internet doesnt lie)
Dude i am just talking in general not technically.. I am not a engineer or neither a coder and you are getting too hyper, go get a life buddy you seriously need it
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abhinav quietly brilliant said:
Dude i am just talking in general not technically.. I am not a engineer or nor a coder and you are getting too hyper, go get a life buddy you seriously need it
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lol, youre funny
if you do not know, then why are you posting like you know? besides, your post right here is the hyper post. i have a nice normal life, thanks for your concern. but i do suggest that you stop living in the fantasy.
simms22 said:
lol, youre funny
if you do not know, then why are you posting like you know? besides, your post right here is the hyper post. i have a nice normal life, thanks for your concern. but i do suggest that you stop living in the fantasy.
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Just because the op mentioned about something related to memory so i thought he is talking about memory leak
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Calm simms we are asking about in technical terms whats wrong with the android versus the iOS...im sure you used or had at least once in your life used iOS so im pretty sure that you also notice the big difference in experience!!
I could very well be wrong, but if I understand iOS and Android correctly, iOS apps can access "more" of the hardware, or at least more efficiently. Android apps have to go through Dalvik, and aren't... native?
A similar comparison would be C++ Windows applications on Windows, vs Java apps (being ran through JVM).
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Calm simms we are asking about in technical terms whats wrong with the android versus the iOS...im sure you used or had at least once in your life used iOS so im pretty sure that you also notice the big difference in experience!!
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no, i dont use ios. i try to avoid it(but have played with it ). anyways, i was just stating that what he wrote isnt true.
default(stock) android vs ios, there probably is some kind of difference. there would even be a difference between a nexus/aosp android and other oem builds. many companies you proprietary dalvik tweaks to make things faster, but they are proprietary. aosp and the nexus use the basic open source dalvik/tweaks, so it might not be as fast when it comes to the ui(and other things). but then again, thats default/stock android. when you move to custom builds, and after optimizations, the difference between ios and android isnt there anymore. ios also uses custom proprietary optimizations btw.
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I could very well be wrong, but if I understand iOS and Android correctly, iOS apps can access "more" of the hardware, or at least more efficiently. Android apps have to go through Dalvik, and aren't... native?
A similar comparison would be C++ Windows applications on Windows, vs Java apps (being ran through JVM).
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I have heart that too some mounths ago..and why google used this as i get it with my least knowlage over software is like android is working on a virtual machine!!why they didn't create android just like iOS structure?
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no, i dont use ios. i try to avoid it(but have played with it ). anyways, i was just stating that what he wrote isnt true.
default(stock) android vs ios, there probably is some kind of difference. there would even be a difference between a nexus/aosp android and other oem builds. many companies you proprietary dalvik tweaks to make things faster, but they are proprietary. aosp and the nexus use the basic open source dalvik/tweaks, so it might not be as fast when it comes to the ui(and other things). but then again, thats default/stock android. when you move to custom builds, and after optimizations, the difference between ios and android isnt there anymore. ios also uses custom proprietary optimizations btw.
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You can understand my first question by a simple example...just see the specs of 3gs that can use ios6 just like iphone5..in the other way see the specs on nexus 4 or S4 and im pretty sure that there lags even 1-2secs!!
pikachukaki said:
I have heart that too some mounths ago..and why google used this as i get it with my least knowlage over software is like android is working on a virtual machine!!why they didn't create android just like iOS structure?
You can understand my first question by a simple example...just see the specs of 3gs that can use ios6 just like iphone5..in the other way see the specs on nexus 4 or S4 and im pretty sure that there lags even 1-2secs!!
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maybe so, but i have seen ios lag as well. and have heard people complain about ios lagging.
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maybe so, but i have seen ios lag as well. and have heard people complain about ios lagging.
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in my experience to make iphone lag..you have to do some serious sh1t with cydia....
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I have heart that too some mounths ago..and why google used this as i get it with my least knowlage over software is like android is working on a virtual machine!!why they didn't create android just like iOS structure?
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They did it likely for overall compatibility support. When Java was first announced, it made the promise of writing code once, and being able to run it on anything. Android is "essentially" the same thing, to maybe a lesser extent. iOS on the other hand is designed to run on the few devices Apple has currently, nothing else.
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They did it likely for overall compatibility support. When Java was first announced, it made the promise of writing code once, and being able to run it on anything. Android is "essentially" the same thing, to maybe a lesser extent. iOS on the other hand is designed to run on the few devices Apple has currently, nothing else.
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So we can't use 100% the possibilities of android cause of open source and compatibility!
So...
AFAIK iOS is based on Objective C whereas Android uses Java. Java is not exactly known for performance - in contrast to (obj.) C. So you can optimize C-Programs way more than Java since Java does a lot "under the hood" that you can hardly control. Android's Java VM is optimized a lot for performance but... it's still Java :>
Secondly iOS doesn't have true multitasking as Android does. When you press the home button on an iPhone, the current app is nearly instantly "frozen" in the RAM. In Android apps put in the background can still do calculations and stuff (you usually recognize that when an app goes rampage and drains your battery, lol).
Third iOS doesn't quite have a file system structure but a database structure internally. Databases are way faster than file systems. The disadvantage here is that you can't save files to your internal SD card since there is no file system (like NTFS under Windows or EXT under Linux).
Google needs to work on, say klp 5.0 being useful ,smoother, more patched Instead of all this buggy trash.
But it's always about something new...
I have thought a few times about getting an iPhone!
Almost everything is better. Let's be honest about that!
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Almost everything is better. Let's be honest about that!
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I can't agree there. I like the freedom of being able to look at AOSP source code, kernel sources, and even try out different operating systems, at all, on my Nexus device (I can't say OEM devices have the same freedom though).
I consider iOS a pretty locked down platform. If I'm paying about $500 for a phone, I better be able to do "whatever" I want with it, and that is simply not the case with an iPhone. A $300 Nexus 4 on the other hand can do far more
Guess this is now an iOS vs Android thread
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Google needs to work on, say klp 5.0 being useful ,smoother, more patched Instead of all this buggy trash.
But it's always about something new...
I have thought a few times about getting an iPhone!
Almost everything is better. Let's be honest about that!
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Just finish reading the above post..and yeah android is beautiful android is easy and fun to use but my thought is that android is a "kiddish" OS compare to iOS but i have to say that even with this bad features android is still better in term of using in time compare to iOS...iOS is pretty boring OS!!
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I can't agree there. I like the freedom of being able to look at AOSP source code, kernel sources, and even try out different operating systems, at all, on my Nexus device (I can't say OEM devices have the same freedom though).
I consider iOS a pretty locked down platform. If I'm paying about $500 for a phone, I better be able to do "whatever" I want with it, and that is simply not the case with an iPhone. A $300 Nexus 4 on the other hand can do far more
Guess this is now an iOS vs Android thread
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No...no just keep the thread in pure technical terms...i also like the freedom of android..but jailbroken iOS is pretty open,not in a way that android is but still pretty open....but i though that google could use the way iOS is build and keep the freedom is offering...imo the only way to banish iOS from the map is to use a different build structure and at least abandon java where they can!!
Hi,
Can anyone guide as to which custom rom is the most stable one in the lot?
-Majrul
majrul said:
Hi,
Can anyone guide as to which custom rom is the most stable one in the lot?
-Majrul
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Hi,
[ROM][29/11] Dynamics v2.0 - WP7.8 RTM and much more
[ROM] Clean ROM - Stock UI - RTM 8858 Base - Focus v1.3 - 7.8 Official
Cheers, Septvies
Thanks
Thanks a lot, i will surely try them out!
But, i have seen one thing, unlike Android, the number of roms available for Windows phones are so less.
majrul said:
But, i have seen one thing, unlike Android, the number of roms available for Windows phones are so less.
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Hi,
Yes, for sure, but because it is much less smartphone also.
Septvies said:
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Yes, for sure, but because it is much less smartphone also.
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Imho, you're wrong. The way I see it, in this order, Android is
1. an open platform - which makes it easier to find specs, look at thousands of Chinese spin-offs based on it; plus it's already well documented although coding for it is a mess (compatibility)
2. a more widespread platform - which makes the user base way larger than any other competitor
3. an older platform = which makes for time to develop for it
I would really like to know what is it missing when you say "(much) less". And please, please don't say apps. A platform is measured first in capabilities and only secondary in apps. By definition, a Smartphone is a phone with advanced computing capability and connectivity. After reading many, many reviews and comparison sites such as ZDNet, TechRadar, Cnet, TheVerge, PCAdvisor etc. one notices that WP8 doesn't really miss anything major, except adoption. For your comparison, Apple released notification center in IOS 5, about 4 years after first iPhone and Google in 2009, 4 years after the introduction of Android, as well. MS is doing it in 3 (it is about to release it). So as far as development cycle goes, MS is ahead here, as well as in other areas. I'm really curious to see what you base your conclusion on.
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Imho, you're wrong. The way I see it, in this order, Android is
1. an open platform - which makes it easier to find specs, look at thousands of Chinese spin-offs based on it; plus it's already well documented although coding for it is a mess (compatibility)
2. a more widespread platform - which makes the user base way larger than any other competitor
3. an older platform = which makes for time to develop for it
I would really like to know what is it missing when you say "(much) less". And please, please don't say apps. A platform is measured first in capabilities and only secondary in apps. By definition, a Smartphone is a phone with advanced computing capability and connectivity. After reading many, many reviews and comparison sites such as ZDNet, TechRadar, Cnet, TheVerge, PCAdvisor etc. one notices that WP8 doesn't really miss anything major, except adoption. For your comparison, Apple released notification center in IOS 5, about 4 years after first iPhone and Google in 2009, 4 years after the introduction of Android, as well. MS is doing it in 3 (it is about to release it). So as far as development cycle goes, MS is ahead here, as well as in other areas. I'm really curious to see what you base your conclusion on.
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Thank you but I know what a smartphone, so it is not worth putting a link to the definition.
So I quote:
majrul said:
But, i have seen one thing, unlike Android, the number of roms available for Windows phones are so less.
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He has asked me why there is less rom available on windows phone and many more of rom available on android.
I'm not mistaken?
I was replied:
Septvies said:
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Yes, for sure, but because it is much less smartphone also.
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My argument rests on the facts.
Indeed, there is much less of rom windows phone, than of rom android
because it is less than of smartphone windows phone than of smartphone android.
I can also do the reverse: There is much more than rom android than of rom windows phone, as there are more smartphone android than of smartphone windows phone.
My argument is quite logical.
@septivies: I see what you meant now, your choice of words was not the best.
What you meant is:
There are less WP smartphones (than other platforms).
What you wrote can be easily read as:
It is much less a smartphone (than other platforms).
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@septivies: I see what you meant now, your choice of words was not the best.
What you meant is:
There are less WP smartphones (than other platforms).
What you wrote can be easily read as:
It is much less a smartphone (than other platforms).
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Yes, bad translation google :fingers-crossed:
Have anyone tried the new Firefox OS yet? How is the OS in general compared to Android? Is it the same or better?
I have tried it on a Geeksphone Keon (only as a second phone); it's a developer preview so it's inusable for every day and the comparison with android isn't possible, but my general impressions are good. I think that the target of Firefox OS is the mid to low end phones, and I must admit that with that poor hardware the OS seems good. The market is - obviously - a little bit "desolated" and a lot of applications aren't optimized for the FFOS yet (the same marketplace is shared between Firefox and Firefox OS), but in my personal opinion the potential of this truly open system are huge.
What a website!
I don't really know much about the OS, but i am really impressed about one thing. I use the Firefox browser on my desktop. So, every time i open it, above the Google search bar at the homepage i see the promotion of the Firefox OS. Yesterday, when i opened the webpage to check it out... WOW! That is some next level s**t! I would say, go and check it out, it will be worth your while!
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I have tried it on a Geeksphone Keon (only as a second phone); it's a developer preview so it's inusable for every day and the comparison with android isn't possible, but my general impressions are good. I think that the target of Firefox OS is the mid to low end phones, and I must admit that with that poor hardware the OS seems good. The market is - obviously - a little bit "desolated" and a lot of applications aren't optimized for the FFOS yet (the same marketplace is shared between Firefox and Firefox OS), but in my personal opinion the potential of this truly open system are huge.
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Was hoping that the future for the OS to be promising, after this we could see giants like Samsung, HTC or LG using it to offer additional phones to their lineup apart from Android ...
I have not tried but it tempts me to do well.
Yes, the initial target market of Firefox OS phones are people who have never owned a smartphone before. And we must sell them at a price that type of person can afford - so the launch hardware is pretty minimal!
However, you can build and run it on phones like Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus and soon on Nexus 4. Running it on those devices gives you something more usable.
The system itself is not fully mature (Android only got awesome at JB!), so lots of work still to be done
One of the nice things about FFOS is that it just uses open standards. I would like to try it on a phone, haven't seen it yet!