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[Q] a little housekeeping a500 q's

Hello all
Just bought one of these off the net for the missus so ill be active around these threads as well. Personally i have a xoom this will be like my second to flash the heck out of lol but as I've been reading about these i have a couple small questions
1. Is the sd card working on stock rom so i can flash customs or will an update to 3.1 be required like the xoom?
2. Does the usb port work as host out of the box?
3. Whats the general stable oc you guys are achieving?
I have tried to search these but some are hazy on the specs or they are outdated
Cheers
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joshndroid said:
Hello all
Just bought one of these off the net for the missus so ill be active around these threads as well. Personally i have a xoom this will be like my second to flash the heck out of lol but as I've been reading about these i have a couple small questions
1. Is the sd card working on stock rom so i can flash customs or will an update to 3.1 be required like the xoom?
2. Does the usb port work as host out of the box?
3. Whats the general stable oc you guys are achieving?
I have tried to search these but some are hazy on the specs or they are outdated
Cheers
Sent from my mind control device
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Fastest claimed speed is 1.64ghz, stable closer to 1.5.
SD card does work on stock, actually is required for flashing. As yet you can't flash from on board only external.
USB seems to work for some devices not others depending on whether you use the full size USB or the mini. Look on the market for USB mount all, you do need fat32 not ntfs though
Anyone want to contradict any of this?

Cheers mate thats good to hear except for the host feature thats the whole point hoppwfulky i get a good one
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Yes USB host [the fullsize USB not the mini] works out of the box. If your USB device requires power though - like some external HDD's - it may not work as there might not be enough power draw.
The mini USB is for the connection to your computer and SDK/ADB/general File transfer use - along side the Acer USB driver install [so make sure you've got the Acer USB driver installed on the computer(s) you plan on using to push files to the tab though mini-USB].

gammaRascal said:
Yes USB host [the fullsize USB not the mini] works out of the box. If your USB device requires power though - like some external HDD's - it may not work as there might not be enough power draw.
The mini USB is for the connection to your computer and SDK/ADB/general File transfer use - along side the Acer USB driver install [so make sure you've got the Acer USB driver installed on the computer(s) you plan on using to push files to the tab though mini-USB].
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Yeh as i said im well advised due my xoom on rooting and android adb, drivers (not being a know it all smart azz) just those couple q got me thinking.. Thanks for a second opinion seems very similar to xoom. Shame how host cant produce 5v at 500ma it wouldnt be to hard for them to up the lousy 3.7v it seems they are running now
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eglathangion said:
Fastest claimed speed is 1.64ghz, stable closer to 1.5.
SD card does work on stock, actually is required for flashing. As yet you can't flash from on board only external.
USB seems to work for some devices not others depending on whether you use the full size USB or the mini. Look on the market for USB mount all, you do need fat32 not ntfs though
Anyone want to contradict any of this?
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You can use internal for flashing if you're using thors latest recovery.
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XWKI4 (and XXKI3) have killed USB OTG

I upgraded (OTA) to XWKI4 and a couple of days later found that USB Host mode has dissapeared. Anyone know why?
I've done some googling but haven't found a lot about it.
I tried XXKI3 via ODIN and it's the same. The blue overscroll doesn't make up for the omission of major functionality.
Why would samsung remove this? Is it maybe just a bug in the kernel or have they deliberately taken it out for some reason?
I presume I can downgrade in ODIN. Bit of a hassle though. I might have to go down the custom firmware route sooner rather than later.

that appen to me too .no USB OTG ,I have XWKI4 and SiyahKernel 2.1
sorry for my English

move down the notification area and there click to connect to your pc. I guess this was made to optimized battery life, because before this is running on background which consumes battery and only needed if connected to computer via usb.
Hope this help you bro.

dannielangel said:
move down the notification area and there click to connect to your pc. I guess this was made to optimized battery life, because before this is running on background which consumes battery and only needed if connected to computer via usb.
Hope this help you bro.
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Connect to PC != USB On-The-Go / USB Host mode.

I'm running XWKJ3 with Speedmod kernel and USB OTG works fine. For me, the most reliable way of getting it to recognise the device is to plug in the OTG cable WITHOUT the USB memory device connected, then plug the USB memory into the cable. Other sequences sometimes don't work.
So I would give that a try if you're not already doing it that way. If it still doesn't work, you could try flashing Speedmod temporarily, and if still no joy, consider upgrading to KJ3.

What are you after in particular?
If it's USB storage, that still works for me on KJ3, however, the ability to connect things like My DSLR to use D5KController (host mode) have gone, presumably because this feature wasn't introduced until API 11, and Samsung had it in there originally, maybe due to porting parts over for the USB storage, then realised it shouldn't be available and removed it.

kslw said:
For me, the most reliable way of getting it to recognise the device is to plug in the OTG cable WITHOUT the USB memory device connected, then plug the USB memory into the cable.
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Thanks, I've tried that and it works (with mass storage).
Oddly, i'm fairly sure (although not 100%) that plugging in the cable (with no device attached) used to cause a notification (something about USB Host mode activated). It does not do that now.
At least I can access media on a memory stick again, that's good.
Thanks for that.

[Q] Video Music Files Auto Sync with PC USB 3.0

Hello, I would like to ask if someone knows a way how to sync video, music files, photos, documents automatically with files in the PC. I would like to take advantage of the speed of the USB 3.0 of the the Note 3. Its like when you connect the phone to PC it will compare two folders (in PC and in the phone) automatically and copy/paste the files.
I used to use cheetah sync, but it uses wifi, which is very slow and most of the time stops/fails after a while of transferring.
Thanks!

karlo6184 said:
Hello, I would like to ask if someone knows a way how to sync video, music files, photos, documents automatically with files in the PC. I would like to take advantage of the speed of the USB 3.0 of the the Note 3. Its like when you connect the phone to PC it will compare two folders (in PC and in the phone) automatically and copy/paste the files.
I used to use cheetah sync, but it uses wifi, which is very slow and most of the time stops/fails after a while of transferring.
Thanks!
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I do not know any sync program but I just wanted to point out that the USB 3.0 doesn't make it any faster in this case because of the internal read/write speed is lower that USB 2.0 maxlimit.
AFAIK they added USB 3.0 to allow fast charging through a computer with USB 3.0 port.

Are you able to have access to the phone through USB 3 port ?
Mine doesn't show on the PC Explorer... but it is charging pretty fast through this port.
I don't know if actually it is an issue on my phone or my PC (drivers?) as I don't have any other USB 3 devices...

GalaxHe said:
Are you able to have access to the phone through USB 3 port ?
Mine doesn't show on the PC Explorer... but it is charging pretty fast through this port.
I don't know if actually it is an issue on my phone or my PC (drivers?) as I don't have any other USB 3 devices...
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There is a special mode on the phone called "allow file transfer through usb 3.0" or something that you need to click to access the phones filesystem through your computer.

USB 3.0 Transfers fail

Hi,
I've been struggling with this problem ever since I've had the Note 3 ( since December). I've been unable to find a solution so am turning to this forum in the hope that someone can shed some light on this.
When I connect via my USB 3.0 port and select MTP (usb 3.0), then try to transfer a file from the note 3 to my pc, the progress bar comes up but sits there at 0% for a while then a message pops up "a device attached to the system is not functioning".
At this point going to other folders reveals no files although the current folder still shows them. This suggest that there is a disconnection of some kind.
Switching back to plain MTP this transfer will work but obviously at usb 2.0 speeds.
I am running Windows 7 and the usb port I have is via a card attached which is an Asus u3S6 (usb 3 / sata 6) card. The chipset on the card is a NEC chip and my other use for it is a bunch of external SATA drives in a USB 3 enclosure. Needless to say there are no problems with running these drives through the ports.
I have Kies 3 installed so any usb drivers needed for the note 3 should be fine. I'm stumped so anyone that can help me troubleshoot this I'd be grateful.

Have you tried enabling " USB Debugging " ?

hey_joe said:
Have you tried enabling " USB Debugging " ?
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Yes sorry I forgot to add that fact. It makes no difference.

Guess no one knows

i have somewhat similar problem, at some point of usb 3 file transfer the progress bar freezes and so is "my computer". interestingly the file transfer to note from the pc always works fine, but it always freezes at some point when copying files from note to pc, even during kies backup. usb 2.0 works flawlessly.
i've messed around with usb 3 drivers (asmedia) and even updated its firmware but the freezeups still remain.
gonna try usb 3 transfer on a different pc tomorrow.

evgenetic said:
i have somewhat similar problem, at some point of usb 3 file transfer the progress bar freezes and so is "my computer". interestingly the file transfer to note from the pc always works fine,.
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This sounds like a different problem but I did get to the bottom of my problem which turned out to be the Anker 2 port hub I had connected to the usb 3.0 port. I didn't think to eliminate this but when I connected directly the problem goes away so the hub I had bought purely to extend the ports for convenience is faulty or incompatible.
Perhaps you have an extension or hub too in which case I'd make sure you connect directly.

USB3 seems a bit flaky in implementation. I had probs with my N3, a Corsair USB3 stick and a USB3 ext HDD. Problem turned out to be the ports on the PC. They would work with most devices but were intermittent or non-functional on others. Of course, among the USB3 devices it WOULD work with were the ones the vendor had. For some devices it behaved like the USB3 extra connectors in the plug or socket weren't long enough - push it in harder or push it sideways slightly and it would connect but drop as soon as you let go. (not good to do 0 USB carries power and this is a good way to get an arc across the plug and fry things)
The PC vendor gave me an add-on front port panel and all is fine now. Even though it plugs into the same port on the MB.
Note the USB3 HDD still pops up the 'check drive' error every time I connect but I haven't taken the time to nuke it and rebuild yet. But the Corsair now works and so does the phone.

Ah, the joys of the MTP protocol...
Same issue here. As well as it stops responding halfway through a transfer, crashes the connection when making a new folder, takes about 3 years to copy 1GB, randomly disconnects...
My TF700 started doing this after the 4.1.2 update removed UMS. My S3, same story. My Note 3, same story. 29 different computers, 4 different systems (XP, 7, 8, OSX). Different cables, different ports, with and without drivers, with and without USB debugging.
I bloody hate MTP. It's useless, limiting (because now it can't be used as a drive to attach to a mediaplayer via USB..) and about as stable as nitroglycerin during an earthquake.

Journyman16 said:
.... the plug or socket weren't long enough - push it in harder or push it sideways slightly and it would connect but drop as soon as you let go. (not good to do 0 USB carries power and this is a good way to get an arc across the plug and fry things)
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I thought I'd give up on hubs and just get an extension as my USB3.0 is on the back of the computer and not that accessible.
I've seen a lot of complaints about hubs and simple extensions that have this poor connectivity which seems crazy to me since it's a bit more important to have a solid connection on USB 3 plugs, besides which it's not as though the usb connectors are rocket science.
I'll try the extension and hope I get a reasonable one.

well i did try the usb 3.0 file transfer on a different pc with a different usb controller and it worked fine, copied my 5gb music folder to the pc without any problems. so in my case i guess it's some incompatibility with the asmedia 104x controller (i did connect directly in both cases and the same cable was used).

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ShadowLea said:
Ah, the joys of the MTP protocol...
Same issue here. As well as it stops responding halfway through a transfer, crashes the connection when making a new folder, takes about 3 years to copy 1GB, randomly disconnects...
My TF700 started doing this after the 4.1.2 update removed UMS. My S3, same story. My Note 3, same story. 29 different computers, 4 different systems (XP, 7, 8, OSX). Different cables, different ports, with and without drivers, with and without USB debugging.
I bloody hate MTP. It's useless, limiting (because now it can't be used as a drive to attach to a mediaplayer via USB..) and about as stable as nitroglycerin during an earthquake.
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it seems like it is indeed MTP issue here ! i rolled back to the old 2006 microsoft driver and i managed to do a full backup including music and everything else with kies. but after a while i tried again and it froze up again, i'll keep experimenting.

Sorry to resurrect this 3 month old thread but is there any way to fix this?
Whenever I want backup anything from my phone storage to PC, I have to do it in chunks of like, 50 files or less (huge PITA with TiBU). If I try to copy the whole folder, my computer locks up and I have to hard reset it. I've tried everything mentioned here short of buying a new USB3 controller.

Fastest file transfer from phone to PC

So MTP is unreliable and not always fast, wireless transfer with AirDroid and the like isn't always reliable or really fast, Mi Drop and other FTP solutions are in the same bag. I really miss the old USB mass storage mode, as it is fast and allows proper file management.
I stumbled upon this section under developer settings (default USB connection mode or sth like that), but I have yet to try it. The first option appears to be just regular MTP, what would MIDI be?
And what are your other suggestions for the fastest or smoothest file management between the phone and a PC?

FTP over AC wifi is my way to go for transferring files, i get around 40 MB which is fast enough for me, that is probably the speed limit for the memory used for this phone, because i get much higher speed on my laptop.
By the way i'm using Solid explorer built in ftp client to connect to an HDD (shared using ftp and samba) by my router

I have not yet installed USB driver on Windows Laptop.
With WLAN 802.11n connection over MyPhoneExplorer 1.8.12 to RN7 Hotspot (2.4 Ghz) I get transfer rates of 5-6 MB/s. 5 Ghz Hotspot seems not supported by my Laptop.
I could connect USB-C 2.0 (OTG) loading cable to either USB 2 or USB 3 on the Laptop.
Is it even possible to reach 20-30 MB/s over USB (like for external Drives connected trough USB2) or at least substantially better then 5-6 MB/s over the WLAN I have?

After applying a trick in Device Manager I was able to intall the USB MTP Driver.
I tried the transfer of a 1.7 GB file and the speed was 16-20 MB/s, so better then WLAN on the RN7 device.