Not directly related to Transformer, but very good news for us.
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQozs5tXxwY
Summary: It's ubuntu desktop experience using android's kernel that runs side by side with android. We can already boot ubuntu on our tablets, but this, from what I understand, will be able to benefit from all drivers. So, everything should work.
As long as they do better than chroot+vnc, I would consider this.
My PC blows away these devices for raw compiling power but versus e.g. an Atom netbook, heck yeah. Only thing better than what I've got with my Transformer, would be an Ultrabook with a touch screen.
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Prkblem is, it will be directly incoporated into rom, not something publicly available
knowing conical they will very likely release it as open source but it would be almost impossible to get it working without their knowledge and huge team
I currently have a nook color and looking to get a larger tablet. I was first looking at the acer a500 but didn't like that wouldn't charge over usb (same with their a200 model, and the a200 loses hdmi I believe).
The Lenova thinkpad is currently selling for 349.99, (canadian prices) but acer just came out with their a510. The 510 has tegra 3 processor but otherwise the specs seem pretty similar and it's for 100 dollars more. And the Lenova has an ips display so I'm sure the screen is better.
A couple of things I want is charge over usb (even though it's slow, you're not completely stuck without an adapter) and I want usb hosting.
I saw one review on this and she mentioned that plugging in a harddrive didn't mount.
Can anyone expand on how good the usb host is? Drives/mice/keyboards? Mulitple devices via usb hub? I was even thinking on having it wired to my network (via usb over ethernet) and I saw a review that actually mentioned usb over ethernet driver is included with the a510.
From going over these forums I gather the Lenova honeycomb is a little buggy but plain stock ics is on the way in june. I didn't like reading a thread about fixing the power button, that definitely gives me pause.
I'd like to save where I can and I don't see a better tablet for 349 (remember in canada) offering what I want. So trying to decide if the extra 100 is worth it and just get the new (and already has ics) acer 510.
I really enjoy the Lenovo tablet however if flashing roms or doing a lot of customizing is your thing I would look at something different. I'm very happy with the hardware itself but dev support for this device is just not there. Now yes I know we have an ics port but its really the only rom avalible and there are quite a few bugs with GB stock rom. Lets just hope ics works better than GB does.
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Maybe Not
From your use description, the ThinkPad Tablet may not be the best choice. The number one selling point for this tablet is the pen and active digitizer. I came here from an iPad2 because it could NOT support hand-written note-taking well enough for me to use in university classes. If acurate pen input is not high on your list then another tablet might be a better choice. Charging over USB may not work for you, my macBook Air running Linux has a software hack to provide extra current, the Thinkpad indicates that it is charging but I have not actually tested it for charge time or anything like that. The cheepo aftermarket charger I use for my Samsung Galaxy Note will NOT charge the ThinkPad.
The Accer is likely thinner and lighter which you could translate as more portable or less durable depending on your point of view.
-j
The Lenovo thinkpad tablet is mostly aimed at people who wants to "work" with their tablet. Being productive with note taking and so forth.
If you just looking for a tablet, get what ever you want. Could be the Lenovo thinkpad or that Tegra 3 tablet.
It's a great choice in many ways, unless you need GPS or a pen that works predictably. Good screen, decent battery life, good form factor, comfortable to hold.
Unfortunately for me, the pen and GPS are pretty much essential for utility. And they just don't work on this device.
I got the K1 in December because it was $250 for a 32gb tegra2 tablet with 10" 1200x800 screen. At this point, however, there's a multitude of tegra3 tablets being released so I'd either wait for those to drop in price or I'd pick up a current tegra2 if it's sub-$200. There was a dell streak 7" for $170 a few days ago. Granted that tablet has a low resolution screen and less than spectacular battery life but even high end tablets like the transformer and xoom have been in the $250 range recently.
If I needed pen input I'd only go for the thinkpad if it was significantly less than the Note. Samsung has hinted that their next Galaxy Tab may have pen input which may be worth waiting for.
Definitely Not!
SImply put I would not recommend Lenovo TPT at the moment. Feedback from the Lenovo developers conference and a recent WSJ article suggest that Lenovo will have a new "strategy"
which will produce a cheap android tablet and make their higher end offerings Win 8 tablets.
I am looking for my first tablet and was seriously considering a TPT but decided to wait for the TPT2 because of the problems plaguing the TPT. Now it looks like Lenovo will probably not produce a TPT2 so ot looks like I will wait for a Galaxy Note 10.1 ( I seriously want a pen ). Hopefully while I wait Lenovo's strategy will become clearer and hopefully it will include high end android tablets.
Not surprisingly considering how little attention Lenovo pays to resolving the TPT issues - little and none. :-/
The n-trig stylus is the biggest draw card, otherwise hard to recommend it.
Ditto. And once ICS ruins pressure sensitivity it's a no go.
Yes, Lenovos slow (and now poor quality) work on the ICS updates so far, their use of only patched updates, etc now make it impossible to recommmend it to either tech or non-tech users alike, where initially I was quite happy with it.
It's a new release for Lenovo, so their Android venture doesn't have all of the bugs worked out yet (including what the target market really wants, and all of that "fringy" stuff). I would say no, not now. I don't know what the competition offers, though, and I don't know what their bugs are.
Once everyone gets the ICS update, the camera focuses properly, the power button, usb port, and GPS hardware issues are resolved with newer releases of this tablet, then yes. The caveat is that you really need to know, then, when the tablet was manufactured to make sure you're not getting a flaky, early release that hasn't been fixed.
I'd definitely go for whatever Lenovo releases next.
That said, I can't imagine living without my stylus. I'll have to live without it, though, for what they said would be a week. I'm sending mine in for repair. They seem hellbent on keeping me happy.... We'll see.
Hm. Bleeding edge, I guess.
The short answer to your question is no. Search this forum for the immense dissatisfaction felt by users of this tab. When a company refuses to provide system images of their tablets needed because it would prevent them from selling custom Roms, that says it all about how selfish they are and that their priority is money not customer satisfaction. Read all about the gps issues, power button issues, broken USB ports, pen "wonk", botched updates, etc and the truth, (even to those singing lenovo's praises) is that being the first tablet of its type is no excuse because the tpt is filled with both hardware and software bugs. The galaxy note is the first phone of its kind with a pen yet its not like this bug-ridden POS. The tpt is a failure and if not for the pen that I manage to use when it works, I would have ditched the thing.
Its not even the negative actions of lenovo that bother me but the behavior behind it. For a so called business tablet, they provide zero support. Just imagine a tablet used for business being stuck in some bootloop and yet no custom image is provided for recovery unless you pay Lenovo $3000. Windows PCs come with recovery discs maybe Lenovo should learn from that. I WILL NOT be buying any Lenovo products because of these dodgy behaviors. And oh, I forgot to mention that they have a Backdoor into your tablet and they can patch whatever they want without your permission. They can probably steal your business info if they wanted.
When the Samsung tab with pen comes out, I will be moving swiftly as I have a long experience with Samsung devices such as my current gs2. They have never failed me.
Hey, but in the end, make your own choice. Just weighing in my 2cents.
TPT
No.. don't get one.... microUSB port for charging (which is painfully slow at the best of times) and ON/OFF switch fail... warranty support very variable. Lenovo forum on this topic is now about 20 pages long!! So.. no charging, not being able to switch on equals A LEMON!!
I was too interested in this tablet, but reading the previous comments I think I'd better wait, or ask for some more advice... also because I'm buying my first tablet and have no experience at all...
I just want an android tablet with its input stylus pen (and possibly a slot to keep the pen with the tablet).
I don't care much about its handwriting recognition software. I'm just interested in keeping ink "grahpics" notes (mainly math).
Display size should be around 10'' (say more than 9'')
Is there anything like that already available and/or advisable?
I saw reference to a "Samsung tab with pen" coming out... when will it be? What model?
Maybe I could also do with an ordinary tablet and with a separate (high quality) input pen?
Thanks for your help
toenail_flicker said:
Ditto. And once ICS ruins pressure sensitivity it's a no go.
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My n-trig on my TPT has been nothing short of amazing. It's the reason to get one of these. It's in the shop for repair (gps, power button, home key was giggly), so I haven't tried ICS on it yet, but pressure sensitivity is very much intact on my Galaxy Note on ICS.
I definitely prefer the n-trig over the s-pen (wacom), except for the clickiness.
As far as Lenovo goes, they seemed hellbent on making me happy when I called to send in the TPT, but I sent it in on the 1st, it's the 9th, and it's still sitting at the shop waiting for parts. It's listed as waiting for parts on both the 5th and the 7th, which means they didn't assess the thing upon arrival completely so they could order all the parts right way. That's just inept. It feels to me like dealing with a drinking alcoholic. If you get one, make it one that's proven working, and don't rely on support.
I have yet to plug anything in the TPT's usb port and not have it work. I might reccommend a GPS mouse....
The TPT is still the only game in town if you need a 10-inch tablet with an active pen (i.e., one that operates independently of one's own hand). I need a 10-inch tablet with an active pen, so I'd buy one again, today ... but probably not after the Galaxy 10 Note comes out (but right now that's vaporware).
Hello all!
My NVIDIA SHIELD comes in the mail tomorrow (I am the TZDiscovery winner from two weeks ago - Greg via Google+), and I want to revive these forums. They seem kinda zombified. Dead, but just doesn't want to die. I plan on trying to work on experimental CM11 builds and any other miscellaneous development. If I am successful in getting CM11 working, please feel free to let me know of anything else you would like me to try!
- r3pwn
Given the proprietary nature of the native controls, seems like CM could be more problematic on the Shield than any previous device.
I like the native control and hassle free support of emulators already, but hope you are happy with the Shield!
I do agree this forum seems near dead.
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Given the proprietary nature of the native controls, seems like CM could be more problematic on the Shield than any previous device.
I like the native control and hassle free support of emulators already, but hope you are happy with the Shield!
I do agree this forum seems near dead.
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CM just finished building, now I have to actually get the SHIELD. Lol.
I wouldnt call it dead, imo nvidia did a good job with the shield. Id rather see a forum that looks dead because theres not really any fine tuning needed rather then see a ton of threads on a device that needs to be modified to run the way it should, for instance the s4. The shield runs quite well, i started building a custom rom a while ago but halted because were not going to gain MUCH in the way of optimizations. Debloat the shield and your golden imo. Although i do understand the desire to want to do custom mods.
Kernels
I think that custom kernels with low-level optimizations are more useful than CyanogenMod.
Just wait till your flex cable breaks and you are stuck with 200 USD paper weight that only works on HDMI. Can't be repaired because there is no supply of parts.
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Just wait till your flex cable breaks and you are stuck with 200 USD paper weight that only works on HDMI. Can't be repaired because there is no supply of parts.
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I really think that was a problem with the earlier models and as long as he has something showing the date he receieved it, nvidia covers them for a year. Ive had a refurb for close to a year now and my 2 year gets to dink arou. D it sometimes and so far the flex cable is holding up. She likes opening and closing it seeing the screen light up and shutoff.
On a side note If the money was good enough, and enough people bought parts i would disassemble and sell the parts myself. Ive been selling on ebay for several years and use to do the same thing with sony psps. Maybe ill start a thread and check out the demand on it.
I keep going on and off with this thing on ROM'ing it but one thing has sort of made me decide to jump yes if there is an android 10 ROM out there. I love using ps4 remote play in my house. Right now I use my pixel 2 but Id love to use a larger screen. With my pixel c dead I have either this or my nexus 9 (which prob couldnt handle remote play anyway) to try and run a rom to see if I can connect the dual shock to the tablet as well. Remote play will work on anything above 5 but in order to use your dual shock instead of touch controls (yuck) you need android 10.
Is there a 10 based ROM or is this tablet just too old to have it?
Anyone know if it would work? (what Im looking to do)
Thanks
I don't think so, we only have an unofficial, and apparently on development halt LOS 16. It would be nice if we had a recent official build, then it could be picked up automatically by the microG fork.
Meanwhile the little brother Galaxy Note 3 has been on proper LOS 16 development, and there is an unofficial LOS 17, and two other roms (crDroid and Havoc OS) based on that.
The Note 10.1 is a really good device, the last one with stylus, before the stylus was reintroduced. And it's still kicking!