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I'd like to buy a NAS Server for my transformer to use the DLNA capability, any idea

I'd like to stream all my content to my tablet/pc's/phones, I was going to buy a QNAP TS-110 but first I wanted to make sure it's compatible.
I don't care a bout a specific model if you have any hints let me know (about 100/150€), 2TB should be enough for me (mainly streaming music and tv series)

chtamina said:
I'd like to stream all my content to my tablet/pc's/phones, I was going to buy a QNAP TS-110 but first I wanted to make sure it's compatible.
I don't care a bout a specific model if you have any hints let me know (about 100/150€), 2TB should be enough for me (mainly streaming music and tv series)
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Any DLNA server should work
I use a buffalo NAS with UPnPlay + Moboplayer

HD Streaming works like crap over DLNA on this device for whatever reason.
If the device supports HTTP server, use that for HD streaming.
sassafras

liput_81 said:
Any DLNA server should work
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unfortunately this does not work properly (upnplay won't stream its content) that's why I was asking

I use mindlna with IMS from the market works great
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA Premium App

I am using LaCie Network Space MAX with UPnPlay + rockplayer and got no problems

sassafras_ said:
HD Streaming works like crap over DLNA on this device for whatever reason.
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I strongly disagree.
The stock DLNA client/renderer, MyNet, works very well for all the audio/video formats that the Android platform supports.

Transformer with UPnPlay + Moboplayer works great with my Synology NAS. But if you only use it to stream videos, this is a bit of an overkill.
As a great home NAS with DLNA bonus video streaming it works great
http://www.synology.com/products/product.php?product_name=DS411slim

chtamina said:
unfortunately this does not work properly (upnplay won't stream its content) that's why I was asking
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The one thing to consider with DLNA is which formats are configured on the host and which are allowed on the client.
My personal DLNA is my Win7 PC with an attached USB HDD. I can use this to stream any file to my TV or my TF. I have noticed some of the video titles not appearing on one or other device but this changes when using something like uPnPlay as the client.

Whatever DLNA NAS you get try the Skifta app, it seems to work well and lets you choose the video player on the Transformer. I have Moboplayer and Vplayer, sometimes one plays better than the other.
UPnPlay looks interesting, I'm going to give it a try. I fear that Skifta may charge once it's out of beta.

I am very interested in this subject and want to report my results, but do not know how to get DLNA working. Can someone describe how I can test my NAS's (ReadyNAS Pro) DLNA capabilities from my TF? What do I have to configure and what app(s) should I run.

I love my ReadyNAS Ultra 4 (upgraded from an older NV+). It will stream 720p just fine to my Samsung TV, 1080p is too choppy though. Pretty sure that's an issue with the TV, not the NAS.
I could have sworn I fiddled with streaming from the NAS to my Transformer using DLNA, but don't remember any of the details offhand.

If you get a new router that supports TOMATO with USB ports, you can attach a hard drive and stream movies directly from it using UPNPPLAy and MOBOplayer...
I'm running Tomato on the ASUS RT-16N router with a 500GB USB2.0 hard drive attached. It work great, I stream all my movies from there.
Best part: Low Power Consumption!

This one is compatible, and you can see HD content too
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=280

I use WD MYBOOKLIVE 1T. No problem there.
I can access all my media files even by just using the File Expert.

PandaVoyageur said:
Transformer with UPnPlay + Moboplayer works great with my Synology NAS. But if you only use it to stream videos, this is a bit of an overkill.
As a great home NAS with DLNA bonus video streaming it works great
http://www.synology.com/products/product.php?product_name=DS411slim
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I have had a synology Nas for a few years, they are hands down by far the best nas for home use on the market!!
Also if you use ES file explorer you dont need DLNA, you can stream media files directly from a file share!! The latest version was updated two days ago and it works great on both my phone and my tablet!
Brandon

[Q] Are you able to watch 1080p movies with Nexus 10?

Hi,
When I bought the Nexus 10, my original thought was to use it to watch movies. Meaning, stream video from my pc using the wifi LAN (I also thought to use it as a streamer by connecting it to my TV via HDMI, but that's another story).
However, this doesn't work right. There are many movies that appear laggy/jumpy/buggy on the Nexus 10 itself (even without connecting it to a TV via HDMI).
Especially when I try to play high quality 1080p mkv files (about 10GB-15GB per movie). I don't have issues with lower quality 720p movies/series, but half the 1080p movies I just can't play right.
I have tried the following players: MX player, BS player, VLC beta, XMBC for android.
My benchmark is Avatar (exteneded) mkv 1080p, a 15GB size file. The only player that was able to play it is BS player, and only when I set it to use the "experimental HW decoding". But even that way, the fps seems to be a bit low. All other players play this movie like a powerpoint presentation, slide by slide...
I thought that the Nexus 10 hardware is strong enough to play 1080p movies. But now I'm not sure. Is it hardware limitation? is it the players fault that doesn't use properly the N10 hardware?
I a bit frustrated here, any help is appreciated!

did you try to put the file on your N10 instead of streaming it? That will rule out any potential WIFI bottleneck which may occur with files that size. Just to be sure. I cannot offer any other advice unfortunately.

Animor said:
Hi,
When I bought the Nexus 10, my original thought was to use it to watch movies. Meaning, stream video from my pc using the wifi LAN (I also thought to use it as a streamer by connecting it to my TV via HDMI, but that's another story).
However, this doesn't work right. There are many movies that appear laggy/jumpy/buggy on the Nexus 10 itself (even without connecting it to a TV via HDMI).
Especially when I try to play high quality 1080p mkv files (about 10GB-15GB per movie). I don't have issues with lower quality 720p movies/series, but half the 1080p movies I just can't play right.
I have tried the following players: MX player, BS player, VLC beta, XMBC for android.
My benchmark is Avatar (exteneded) mkv 1080p, a 15GB size file. The only player that was able to play it is BS player, and only when I set it to use the "experimental HW decoding". But even that way, the fps seems to be a bit low. All other players play this movie like a powerpoint presentation, slide by slide...
I thought that the Nexus 10 hardware is strong enough to play 1080p movies. But now I'm not sure. Is it hardware limitation? is it the players fault that doesn't use properly the N10 hardware?
I a bit frustrated here, any help is appreciated!
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Have you tried MX player's hw+ mode? Also try dice player. I have tried a higher resolution than 1080 and it worked fine in MX but it was mp4!

As I have no bluray remuxes or space on my tablet to try them, I have downloaded the test video called "Birds" from here, 40 mbps bluray remux and with MX player I can play it using HW codec with no stutter or lag. With SW Codec it has stutter and through network stream from PC with SW codec it stutters as well, and HW codec doesn't seem to work at all through network stream
I hope this helps.

Thank you all for your help!
I have made several trials according to your advices. The problem is indeed the wifi.
I have copied a movie that didn't run well through wifi to my N10 ("The Host" - 12GB), and it ran just fine with both BS and MX!
I have also tried "birds" from the post above me. When I tried to run it through wifi:
- MX player with hw+ was completely stuck on the first picture.
- BS player with experimental decoding was very bad, but a bit better than MX.
I have tried it with the N10 very close to the router, so it's not bad wifi reception.
When I copied "birds" file to my N10, it ran just fine with both MX and BS. Since it's 40mps bluray, it's much heavier than any of my 10-15GB movies in terms of mpbs.
Anyway, the problem is indeed caused by the wifi, which is a major bottleneck. Now the question is where is exactly the problem: the router (I have N type router)? N10 wifi? my computer wired Ethernet connection to the router?
How do regular streamers work with 1080p content?
Can I do anything to fix this bottleneck? Perhaps a better router?
What if I use usb OTG and connect USB DOK directly to the N10, do you think it may work?
Thanks again for your help!

Ah glad you got it to work finally. Yes the router can play a part in it, however if you are happy with your wifi setup otherwise (stability, range etc) I would not change the router just for this. There is no guarantee that a different router may indeed play your file without hiccups. It may also be that the tablet wifi is not up to the task of streaming the movies, but this is just an assumption on my part.
The cheapest solution, while not the most comfortable one, would be to use an OTG cable and a nice 64GB USB stick and just fill that with movies when you want to watch them. Maybe you can find more info on the net regarding streaming and wifi issues and solutions, but be ready to drop some cash for those routers.
EDIT: there is some good info in this thread http://forums.smallnetbuilder.com/showthread.php?t=7761
EDIT2: and here http://forums.smallnetbuilder.com/showthread.php?t=2755

I have the same router type N, cheap one that came free from my ISP, talktalk, and exactly the same issues when trying to play through network. I know that when trying to copy something through LAN from my PC to my tablet via ES File Explorer, it only downloads at 300KB/s, which is slower then when I download something off the internet at 1.8MB/s (which is the maximum I get from my ISP) so this leads me to believe that the problem isn't the router, because it can download fast enough for 1080p (maybe not fast enough for that "birds" test at 40mbps, though) this leaves the protocol that android uses to talk to windows PC, the Samba share or something like that.
Do you use windows as well? I'm thinking of trying to stream through a linux share, see how that goes.

I also use Windows - I've defined a user with password on windows and I connect to the workgroup on my pc with it. Perhaps you are right and this is the issue. Please update if you find a faster way to stream.
What if we use an external hdd which will connect to the router? You think it might help?
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Animor said:
I also use Windows - I've defined a user with password on windows and I connect to the workgroup on my pc with it. Perhaps you are right and this is the issue. Please update if you find a faster way to stream.
What if we use an external hdd which will connect to the router? You think it might help?
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Hey, I've made some good progress.
I downloaded an app called MediaHouse UPnP / DLNA Browser from app store and a uPnP server (I used XBMC - all I had to do to set it up after installing it was to add my movies folder under videos and then go into system>settings>services>uPnP and select share video and libraries trough UPnP) and that's it. Then I just open MediaHouse on my Nexus 10 (leave xbmc in background on pc) and browse my files... It works much better then the normal share: I can play movies that I couldn't play before with MX Player and play them using HW+ decoder. The "Birds" demo isn't great but it's much better, I had the best results using bs player, but still a bit laggy, but since you say your videos aren't quite that high in bitrate, maybe you'll get lucky.
I hope this helps. Bye

bv90andy said:
Hey, I've made some good progress.
I downloaded an app called MediaHouse UPnP / DLNA Browser from app store and a uPnP server (I used XBMC - all I had to do to set it up after installing it was to add my movies folder under videos and then go into system>settings>services>uPnP and select share video and libraries trough UPnP) and that's it. Then I just open MediaHouse on my Nexus 10 (leave xbmc in background on pc) and browse my files... It works much better then the normal share: I can play movies that I couldn't play before with MX Player and play them using HW+ decoder. The "Birds" demo isn't great but it's much better, I had the best results using bs player, but still a bit laggy, but since you say your videos aren't quite that high in bitrate, maybe you'll get lucky.
I hope this helps. Bye
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Thank you, this is indeed a very good progress. I was able to play 1080p movies!
Only problem is I can't stream .srt subtitles files along with the movie. The srt file is at the same directory of the movie. XMBC on my pc plays the subtitles, but on my N10 using MediaHouse, it's just being ignored.
Any advice?

Animor said:
Thank you, this is indeed a very good progress. I was able to play 1080p movies!
Only problem is I can't stream .srt subtitles files along with the movie. The srt file is at the same directory of the movie. XMBC on my pc plays the subtitles, but on my N10 using MediaHouse, it's just being ignored.
Any advice?
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OK, apparently uPnP doesn't support subtitles, but I have been able to copy the sub file over, normally, using ES file explorer and then, after you load the movie via mediahouse, in mx player you can click on menu>subtitles>open and select the file from your local storage where you saved it.
I hope this works.
Don't forget to click the thanks button

Thank you. This is not so comfortable, but I guess it should work.
I have posted a question to the author of mediaHouse, perhaps there is a more elegant solution...

Animor said:
Thank you all for your help!
I have made several trials according to your advices. The problem is indeed the wifi.
I have copied a movie that didn't run well through wifi to my N10 ("The Host" - 12GB), and it ran just fine with both BS and MX!
I have also tried "birds" from the post above me. When I tried to run it through wifi:
- MX player with hw+ was completely stuck on the first picture.
- BS player with experimental decoding was very bad, but a bit better than MX.
I have tried it with the N10 very close to the router, so it's not bad wifi reception.
When I copied "birds" file to my N10, it ran just fine with both MX and BS. Since it's 40mps bluray, it's much heavier than any of my 10-15GB movies in terms of mpbs.
Anyway, the problem is indeed caused by the wifi, which is a major bottleneck. Now the question is where is exactly the problem: the router (I have N type router)? N10 wifi? my computer wired Ethernet connection to the router?
How do regular streamers work with 1080p content?
Can I do anything to fix this bottleneck? Perhaps a better router?
What if I use usb OTG and connect USB DOK directly to the N10, do you think it may work?
Thanks again for your help!
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Here is an alternate OTG solution that I use for HD content of all types.(OTG USB Gigabit Ethernet adapter). Just a thought. Note that the drivers for this adapter are in the stock ROM.
http://goo.gl/v2nwLa

I've found another solution:
Using MKVmerge, you can easily merge mkv and srt file. It takes only 2-3 minutes for a movie. Output file is mkv file with embedded subtitles. I've checked it and MX player shows the subtitles just fine via MediaHouse.
Download from here.

Hi!
It took a while but I read the whole thread! I'm happy that you mostly solved your issue, about the Wi-Fi issue it's caused by your LAN speed, I use my old Xoom as media server here, sometimes it becomes really laggy, I solved this problem connecting both the devices (Nexus 10 and Xoom) on my S4 hotspot, believe this is FAST! Using SuperBeam app I usually get from 35-40Mbps. I think most of the android phones with hotspot functionality may have good speeds.
I use Bubble UPnP BTW! Also, if you think too uncomfortable having to manually select your subtitle, I believe BS Player still downloads it automatically and put on auto too. It used to do this with me, I don't know if it still downloads .
Well, those are just some more alternatives you may want to try . As there are some good solutions over there!
All the best,
~Lord

Great news, people!
 @bv90andy
I have found a way to stream external srt subtitles along with the movie, using uPnP.
Apparently, only some uPnP media servers and clients support it. In addition, only some movie players can extract this information when streamed through uPnP. I've found several such uPnP media servers, but most of them require payment after a trial period. However, I've managed to find one that doesn't!
So, in order to stream videos with external srt, you need the following:
1. Serviio on you PC.
2. BubbleUPnP on your android device.
3. MX player on your android device.
4. The srt file should have the same name of the movie file, and they have to reside both at the same directory in your PC.
Enjoy!
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XxLordxX said:
about the Wi-Fi issue it's caused by your LAN speed
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You are mistaken - read again the thread. The bottleneck is not the LAN speed or the router, it's smb/cisf protocol, which is too slow to stream 1080p videos. Using uPnP protocol instead of smb/cisf, over the same LAN and with the same router, we have managed to solves the issue.

Animor said:
Great news, people!
@bv90andy
I have found a way to stream external srt subtitles along with the movie, using uPnP.
Apparently, only some uPnP media servers and clients support it. In addition, only some movie players can extract this information when streamed through uPnP. I've found several such uPnP media servers, but most of them require payment after a trial period. However, I've managed to find one that doesn't!
So, in order to stream videos with external srt, you need the following:
1. Serviio on you PC.
2. BubbleUPnP on your android device.
3. MX player on your android device.
4. The srt file should have the same name of the movie file, and they have to reside both at the same directory in your PC.
Enjoy!
ps:You are mistaken - read again the thread. The bottleneck is not the LAN speed or the router, it's smb/cisf protocol, which is too slow to stream 1080p videos. Using uPnP protocol instead of smb/cisf, over the same LAN and with the same router, we have managed to solves the issue.
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Thanks for sharing that.

[Q] Want to buy it but need more info about DNLA and AirPlay

Hello guys,
I'm currently setting up my apartment and I'm looking for the perfect "Media Player Box" to hook up to my non-smart TV.
I watched a lot of Nexus Player reviews on YouTube but still, I'm not sure this box will do everything I need.
So I want to be able to do the following with the Nexus Player:
Cast YouTube videos directly from the YouTube app of my iOS devices (OK - this one is possible)
Cast and decode DLNA/UPnP movies stored on my Synology NAS from the Synology video app (or others) of my iOS devices using the DLNA protocol (? - Can I install an app like BubbleUPnP to make the Nexus Player act as a DLNA receiver even if BubbleUPnP is running in the background ?)
Stream the music of my iOS devices (Spotify or local) to my TV using the AirPlay protocol (? - I've seen some video about Android app allowing AirPlay but is it really working with the last iOS version ?)
I haven't found any TV box capable of these 3 requirement yet so I hope someone that has a Nexus Player can tell me I can stop searching !
Or maybe someone knows an even better box for this ?
Thanks in advance for your help!

Yes there are a few DLNA receivers and clients. Kodi is free and excellent.
The paid apps AirReceiver or Airplay/DLNA receiver by the developer wax rain will give you both Airplay and DLNA as background apps always available. You can Airplay any audio to these apps (kodi's Airplay is still broken I think). The Airplay problems are mostly for video. If the video is drm protected content you won't be able to Airplay it
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

goodhur said:
Yes there are a few DLNA receivers and clients. Kodi is free and excellent.
The paid apps AirReceiver or Airplay/DLNA receiver by the developer wax rain will give you both Airplay and DLNA as background apps always available. You can Airplay any audio to these apps (kodi's Airplay is still broken I think). The Airplay problems are mostly for video. If the video is drm protected content you won't be able to Airplay it
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Thanks for your answer goodhur
AirPlay will only be used for audio so it's OK.
So it seems like the Nexus Player is the TV box perfectly suited to my usages. However, I still have a question:
My NAS has poor transcoding performance so will the Nexus Player be able to decode big movie files (1080p, MKV, ...) on its own? Will it be compatible with any file format while streaming from a DLNA source? I don't want my NAS to handle the transcoding.
Thanks

I can't really give you much information on transcoding. I have streaming boxes for about 5 years now. Since Roku and Apple TV were my first boxes, I just had to keep my videos in MP4 or M4v formats which pretty much can be played on any device.

Video Streaming

Can anyone suggest video streaming apps that work with Android head units? I have a Joying 9 inch android 10.1 model. Xfinity, Prime, Nextflix do not work as I have tried. Some of Plex movies work. Wondering if you guys know of any others?

I would hazard to guess that some movies aren't playing because you haven't got the right codecs or streaming protocols installed on your machine so the movie can't be properly decoded. Try installing/using VLC FOR ANDROID. It's probably the most detailed player there is for codecs/streaming protocols and can play just about anything.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.videolan.vlc
How to Stream Netflix Movies and TV Shows on VLC
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https://medium.com/@yanghongyan9199/how-to-stream-netflix-movies-and-tv-shows-on-vlc-dbbfbdb2f7fe

Amazon fire TV Dolby Vision issue

I have "Toshiba 43" 4K UHD HDR LED Fire Smart TV (43LF711C20)" with Dolby Vision support.
When I try to play movie from network share the picture is green/violet. I tried different players from app store with same result
Did I miss something?

Try getting a different copy of the movie from somewhere else - the copy you have might be corrupt.

ALL Dolby Vision videos play same

VitaliyK said:
ALL Dolby Vision videos play same
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This indicates that the TV is not getting and decoding the DoVi layer. In order to get DoVi to work on many TVs you have to switch HDMI format from standard to enhanced. I don't think that this applies to the TVs internal apps and OS but it might be good to look for something like that.
Have you set dynamic range to adaptive under fireOS settings? Is this happening in multiple apps?

This TV has VERY limited settings
Here is no such parameter.
It made to show you as much as possible paid promotions.
I use NOVA player to play movies stored on NAS.

VitaliyK said:
This TV has VERY limited settings
Here is no such parameter.
It made to show you as much as possible paid promotions.
I use NOVA player to play movies stored on NAS.
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Ah ok, yeah I was wondering if you were talking about commercial apps or video players.
A lot of video players don't support DoVi. I don't think Nova Player does:
Dolby Vision doesn't work · Issue #383 · nova-video-player/aos-AVP
I just tried two Dolby Vision files with the latest Google Play release, and neither displayed DV. File 1 (No HDR10): https://sylvan.apple.com/Aerials/2x/Videos/SE_A016_C009_HDR_20190717_3m30s_HDR_...
github.com
I haven't had any major problems playing DoVi in Plex. The one problem I have noticed is that DoVi files using an .MP4 containers don't play without a lot of buffering. Remuxing to MKV (MKVtoolnix) makes them play fine.
So the good news is it isn't you, it's your app.

I was not able to open local files in Plex

VitaliyK said:
I was not able to open local files in Plex
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Yeah, Plex is for streaming videos from another device like a laptop.
If you really want to play files locally off of a flash drive, I tested a couple players
MPV - No
Nova Player - No
VLC - No
Just Player - Yes
GitHub - moneytoo/Player: ▶ Simple and lightweight, yet polished and powerful Android video player based on ExoPlayer
▶ Simple and lightweight, yet polished and powerful Android video player based on ExoPlayer - GitHub - moneytoo/Player: ▶ Simple and lightweight, yet polished and powerful Android video player base...
github.com
Kodi - Yes
But if you want a simple light weight player, go with Just Player
I have also heard MX Player works, but I haven't tried it.

I play videos from D-Link NAS. What would be best player with DoVi support?

VitaliyK said:
I play videos from D-Link NAS. What would be best player with DoVi support?
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I would see if you can install the Plex server on the DLink NAS and then run the Plex client on the FireTV. This will give you the most pleasant and lightweight interface.
You will have to see if it's possible to install.
Add-on "Plex Media Server v1.14.1.5488" for D-Link NAS
Add-on "Plex Media Server v1.14.1.5488" for D-Link NAS
forums.dlink.com
There seems to be a installer package for a few DLINK models, the last update in from 2020 though.
Plex covers quite a few NAS options
Media Server Downloads | Plex Media Server for Windows, Mac, Linux, FreeBSD and More
Click here to Download the Plex media server for Windows, Mac, Linux FreeBSD and more free today.
www.plex.tv
I'm not sure if Just Player can access a NAS, it doesn't look like it.
If you can't get the Plex Server installed, Kodi can play from a NAS. Kodi is a favorite of a lot of people.

Unfortunately there is fix for DNS-327L / DNS-340L. I have 3 of DNS-320 and 1 DNS-320L

VitaliyK said:
Unfortunately there is fix for DNS-327L / DNS-340L. I have 3 of DNS-320 and 1 DNS-320L
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You can still use Kodi, a lot of people prefer it over Plex anyway.

Again, I could not make it work with NAS

VitaliyK said:
Again, I could not make it work with NAS
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Kodi is very flexible, but at the cost of more complicated.
Does your DLink NAS use SMB for network sharing?
SMB - Official Kodi Wiki
kodi.wiki

@VitaliyK
try https://www.kodinerds.net/index.php/Thread/69428-Maven-s-Kodi-Builds-für-Android/

Where I can install Kodi from? It is not in App store

VitaliyK said:
Where I can install Kodi from? It is not in App store
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Android | Downloads
Kodi is a free media player that is designed to look great on your big screen TV but is just as at home on a small screen.
kodi.tv
Sideload the 32bit version

Kramar111 said:
@VitaliyK
try https://www.kodinerds.net/index.php/Thread/69428-Maven-s-Kodi-Builds-für-Android/
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I do not read German.
Finnzz said:
Android | Downloads
Kodi is a free media player that is designed to look great on your big screen TV but is just as at home on a small screen.
kodi.tv
Sideload the 32bit version
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How to load it on my FireTv?

VitaliyK said:
I do not read German.
How to load it on my FireTv?
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If you haven't sideloaded apps on your FireTV yet, Kodi might have a steep learning curve. You are going to need to do some googling.