Bootloader - Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Is the Verizon note 3 every going to have a unlocked bootloader so we can install aosp roms?

hazedabeast said:
Is the Verizon note 3 every going to have a unlocked bootloader so we can install aosp roms?
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So far only the dev edition, but we can keep hope alive.
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I hope so, I had a bad reaction coming from my note 2 to s4, upon finding out the bootloader was locked (after mkd)
Though safestrap has kept me sane. Cant live with verizon bloatware. I'm considering the g3 though

thegamerdarkseid said:
So far only the dev edition, but we can keep hope alive.
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brex91 said:
I hope so, I had a bad reaction coming from my note 2 to s4, upon finding out the bootloader was locked (after mkd)
Though safestrap has kept me sane. Cant live with verizon bloatware. I'm considering the g3 though
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Can I install tmobile aosp rom?

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hazedabeast said:
Can I install tmobile aosp rom?
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No. The Verizon N3 has a locked bootloader. Means you can only install Touchwiz based ROMs.
Only the Developer Edition can install AOSP ROMs.

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Dev-Edition & Roms

Hey all been out of the loop for a little bit and I have a question. With the phone being as locked down as it is I was thinking of getting the Verizon GS5 Dev-Edition. Can I use ROMs and/or Kernels that are in the main GS5 forum?
Thanks for the advice/help in advanced!
PistonPounder said:
Hey all been out of the loop for a little bit and I have a question. With the phone being as locked down as it is I was thinking of getting the Verizon GS5 Dev-Edition. Can I use ROMs and/or Kernels that are in the main GS5 forum?
Thanks for the advice/help in advanced!
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If it's the Dev Edition and once rooted, I would think so. I could be wrong.
kprice8 said:
If it's the Dev Edition and once rooted, I would think so. I could be wrong.
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Appreciate the quick reply! I'd imagine Kernals might be hit or miss but ROMs would be ok but I could be wrong on both accounts and I just wanted to make sure before I bought it.
PistonPounder said:
Appreciate the quick reply! I'd imagine Kernals might be hit or miss but ROMs would be ok but I could be wrong on both accounts and I just wanted to make sure before I bought it.
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Either way, the Dev edition is the way to go. There is a custom build in 'Original Android Dev' for the VZW S5 down a couple subforums that is confirmed stable.
kprice8 said:
Either way, the Dev edition is the way to go. There is a custom build in 'Original Android Dev' for the VZW S5 down a couple subforums that is confirmed stable.
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Yea I saw the Kernel but there aren't any ROM's in the Verizon forum, the main GS5 forum is hoping though so I wanted to make sure I can actually do what I intend with the device given the money. Especially since I know the Dev-Edition will never get official updates from samsung.
PistonPounder said:
Yea I saw the Kernel but there aren't any ROM's in the Verizon forum, the main GS5 forum is hoping though so I wanted to make sure I can actually do what I intend with the device given the money. Especially since I know the Dev-Edition will never get official updates from samsung.
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I'm curious myself. I just purchased an M8 but if we can flash ROMs from T-Mobile/AT&T/Int'l/Etc onto the rooted/unlocked S5 DE I'd probably buy that instead.
jeydax said:
I'm curious myself. I just purchased an M8 but if we can flash ROMs from T-Mobile/AT&T/Int'l/Etc onto the rooted/unlocked S5 DE I'd probably buy that instead.
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From what I'm reading it should be ok as long as we use a Verizon kernel because the Intl version seems to also have the Snapdragon 801.
Waiting for someone with experience to confirm though.
Anybody?

Looking For CM11 ROM For SM-G900A

The past pretty much says it all, is the a Cyanogen 11 ROM I can use for my AT&T S5 with safestrap maybe?
Simon Hammers said:
The past pretty much says it all, is the a Cyanogen 11 ROM I can use for my AT&T S5 with safestrap maybe?
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There are no roms for 900a afaik.
Lock boot loader?
from SM-G900F / SM-N9005
CM/AOSP roms will not be working on the ATT variant until the bootloader is unlocked. For now you only get to use TW roms via SafeStrap
androidfilesharing said:
CM/AOSP roms will not be working on the ATT variant until the bootloader is unlocked. For now you only get to use TW roms via SafeStrap
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You say until the bootloader is unlocked. Do you truly believe that Samsung and AT&T are gonna get off their money making high horse and actually allow an unlocked bootloader? That's why the "developer version" is there. I hate this crap. I have rooted and flashed roms for every damn phone I've ever owned. Sigh..
Bl33dingskullz said:
You say until the bootloader is unlocked. Do you truly bla bla bla rant
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He's talking about the community. Until someone in the android scene unlocks it. It's not up to Samsung, it's up to AT&T.

New to Samsung Note Series

Recently I purchased a note 3 off ebay to use tell Im available for an upgrade. I'm not sure what software version is on it cause I haven't gotten it. Just have a few questions.
Is the only way you can root is in 4.4.2 ?
If the phone comes can't I downgrade from 5.0 to 4.4.4 and them to 4.4.2.
Please understand I'm new to Samsung so not sure it all works. Coming from all htc devices like DNA and one max.
Welcvome aboard
thayl0 said:
Recently I purchased a note 3 off ebay to use tell Im available for an upgrade. I'm not sure what software version is on it cause I haven't gotten it. Just have a few questions.
Is the only way you can root is in 4.4.2 ?
If the phone comes can't I downgrade from 5.0 to 4.4.4 and them to 4.4.2.
Please understand I'm new to Samsung so not sure it all works. Coming from all htc devices like DNA and one max.
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no, you can root Lollipop as well.
there are ways to downgrade but you have to be careful...
Look out for threads in General section and work on the method specific to your model (about downgrade)
this is for N900 http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/general/safe-to-downgrade-ll-to-kk-sm-n900-t3016966 :angel:
nijom said:
no, you can root Lollipop as well.
there are ways to downgrade but you have to be careful...
Look out for threads in General section and work on the method specific to your model (about downgrade)
this is for N900 http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/general/safe-to-downgrade-ll-to-kk-sm-n900-t3016966 :angel:
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Thank you for the quick reply is the n900 and n900v the same thing cause !my model coming is the n900v
Do you think I should try to root lollipop before I try to downgrade.
Wouldn't I follow this guide to root and install trwp n custom rom after.
https://youtu.be/eDHSXn5KwAw
thayl0 said:
Thank you for the quick reply is the n900 and n900v the same thing cause !my model coming is the n900v
Do you think I should try to root lollipop before I try to downgrade.
Wouldn't I follow this guide to root and install trwp n custom rom after.
https://youtu.be/eDHSXn5KwAw
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Do not downgrade. Why would you do that?
No it is not the same, flashing other variants roms will brick yours. Or supersu twrp etc.
V is for Verizon
kenny1991 said:
Do not downgrade. Why would you do that?
No it is not the same, flashing other variants roms will brick yours. Or supersu twrp etc.
V is for Verizon
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Could you please link me to an guide on n900V and how to root it on lollipop. Samsung and HTC devices are way different in how to do things and I don't want to screw up. Hopefully you understand.
thayl0 said:
Could you please link me to an guide on n900V and how to root it on lollipop. Samsung and HTC devices are way different in how to do things and I don't want to screw up. Hopefully you understand.
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Verizon version is not rootable, nor does it accept custom recoveries. You better choose another variant, if that is important to you.
jisoo said:
Verizon version is not rootable, nor does it accept custom recoveries. You better choose another variant, if that is important to you.
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Because it has locked bootloader, right?
So there is no way to unlock the bootloader like with Sonys? Like asking for unlock code from Verizon?
kenny1991 said:
Because it has locked bootloader, right?
So there is no way to unlock the bootloader like with Sonys? Like asking for unlock code from Verizon?
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You are correct. Samsung phones all come bootloader unlocked, unless the carriers wants them locked (as was the case with Verizon and AT&T for the Note 4).
The locked versions have almost never successfully been unlocked.
So if you can, stay away from these two variants.
jisoo said:
You are correct. Samsung phones all come bootloader unlocked, unless the carriers wants them locked (as was the case with Verizon and AT&T for the Note 4).
The locked versions have almost never successfully been unlocked.
So if you can, stay away from these two variants.
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Then why are people saying I can root it.... I do know the phone is coming networked unlocked. I find it crazy that if you can't unlock a verizon bootloader that there are roms that support verizon.
So what your telling me is there's no possible way to root even on stock so i can run xposed framework.?
thayl0 said:
Then why are people saying I can root it.... I do know the phone is coming networked unlocked. I find it crazy that if you can't unlock a verizon bootloader that there are roms that support verizon.
So what your telling me is there's no possible way to root even on stock so i can run xposed framework.?
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Some firmware versions have vulnerabilities, which can be exploited to gain root/install safestrap. Some versions allow downgrading to vulnerable versions. But not all.
You should check the Verizon forums for more information http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-note-3.
jisoo said:
Some firmware versions have vulnerabilities, which can be exploited to gain root/install safestrap. Some versions allow downgrading to vulnerable versions. But not all.
You should check the Verizon forums for more information http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-note-3.
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Will do. But say I buy a note 3 that either from Sprint or T-Mobile and install custom rom want I be able to use Verizon but only if I have a custom rom?
thayl0 said:
Will do. But say I buy a note 3 that either from Sprint or T-Mobile and install custom rom want I be able to use Verizon but only if I have a custom rom?
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Sorry, I don't know much about the US carriers, so don't know how they interoperate.
thayl0 said:
Will do. But say I buy a note 3 that either from Sprint or T-Mobile and install custom rom want I be able to use Verizon but only if I have a custom rom?
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No. Verizon uses CDMA and will not allow 3rd party phones on their network. T-Mobile uses GSM and will NOT work on Verizon network. Period. You MUST use a Verizon branded device on Verizon network.
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toastido said:
No. Verizon uses CDMA and will not allow 3rd party phones on their network. T-Mobile uses GSM and will NOT work on Verizon network. Period. You MUST use a Verizon branded device on Verizon network.
Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk
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Well, just got the phone in the mail and it seems that it came with 5.0 so I guess I'm outta luck for root. First phone I've ever had that I can't root. I'm sad aha

Have a rooted SM-G900V on Android 5.0 ... Need better kernel

I come from rooted HTC phones, and need some help. Samsung Verizon version seems particular. I am looking for better or best battery life, in comparison to my current kernel. Please see screenshots. Thanks!
As far as I know you can't flash custom kernels on the G900V, sorry :/
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Verizon versions have locked bootloaders, no way to install custom recovery, so too bad.
Frost009 said:
Verizon versions have locked bootloaders, no way to install custom recovery, so too bad.
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Before telling other people to do research before posting - why not take some of your own advice
http://www.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5-bootloader-has-been-unlocked/
Verizon bootloader has been unlocked for days now
*Detection* said:
Before telling other people to do research before posting - why not take some of your own advice
http://www.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5-bootloader-has-been-unlocked/
Verizon bootloader has been unlocked for days now
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It's been unlocked as a proof of concept as part of private research, that is not released and for the masses its still locked.
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Yeah... Nice try there, the hypocrisy....

can you flash custom kernels?

is it possible to flash a custom kernel on the s5 even though it has a locked bootloader? i was looking online and saw that some people were able to do it with other phones but they said it varies on the phone itself and the kernel
Veid71 said:
is it possible to flash a custom kernel on the s5 even though it has a locked bootloader? i was looking online and saw that some people were able to do it with other phones but they said it varies on the phone itself and the kernel
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Nobody with the Verizon s5...
ldeveraux said:
Nobody with the Verizon s5...
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hmmm i know you could flash one that was called blaze or something like that but its for kitkat cuz i flashed it but when it turned on it had the safestrap screen come up and went black when i hit continue
Veid71 said:
hmmm i know you could flash one that was called blaze or something like that but its for kitkat cuz i flashed it but when it turned on it had the safestrap screen come up and went black when i hit continue
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Then why'd you ask if you knew the answer?
ldeveraux said:
Then why'd you ask if you knew the answer?
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because i wanted to know if anyone knew of any others or if anyone was working on some lollipop ones or just anymore in general
Veid71 said:
because i wanted to know if anyone knew of any others or if anyone was working on some lollipop ones or just anymore in general
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No, it won't work on our Verizon/At&T model. It will work with t-mobile and sprint and Verizon Dev edition. Dev had banned the project so everyone is moving on to ktoonsez's kernel, which again worked on everything except for our Verizon 900V model. Bottom line, you can't flash a custom kernel onto a locked bootloader. We have many variation of model S5, make sure you are looking at Verizon (SM-900V) and AT&T (SM-G900A) which have locked bootloader.
buhohitr said:
No, it won't work on our Verizon/At&T model. It will work with t-mobile and sprint and Verizon Dev edition. Dev had banned the project so everyone is moving on to ktoonsez's kernel, which again worked on everything except for our Verizon 900V model. Bottom line, you can't flash a custom kernel onto a locked bootloader. We have many variation of model S5, make sure you are looking at Verizon (SM-900V) and AT&T (SM-G900A) which have locked bootloader.
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hmm okay thanks

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