[Q] How to remove towelroot without supersu? - Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

​How do I safely remove towelroot? I installed and ran it but never checked supersu or anyhing. I just wanted to check if my device was compatible. International S5 here with May kernel.

umrafael said:
​How do I safely remove towelroot? I installed and ran it but never checked supersu or anyhing. I just wanted to check if my device was compatible. International S5 here with May kernel.
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Just unroot from within the TR app and factory reset. If system status is still custom reflash the stock rom with Odin and factory reset afterwards.

gee2012 said:
Just unroot from within the TR app and factory reset. If system status is still custom reflash the stock rom with Odin and factory reset afterwards.
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I uninstalled TR. "SYSTEM STATUS: Custom". Did flash stock rom from within Odin once and SYSTEM STATUS is fixed without a factory reset. I was sticking to april kernel but had to update to may one because MXPlayer H/W+ mode would be broken otherwise. And... H/W+ mode broken = no smooth 1080p anime for my phone...
Thanks for the reply.

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4.4.2 ota update, hk n9005, rooted, super su survival mode?

I am tempted to try, my Knox is not trapped yet and I am running 4.3 mk1. anyone tested already? I will go cm sooner or later but cm is not quite ready yet. if super su survives the ota and I don't have to factory reset it would be great
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doh, ota refused to install on rooted device!
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mobilevil said:
doh, ota refused to install on rooted device!
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If you want to install the OTA, you may have to use Wanam Xposed to reset the Custom Binary to Official and then you would be able to install it.
However, SuperSU MAY not survive the Survival Mode, and may or may not trip KNOX.
nicholaschum said:
If you want to install the OTA, you may have to use Wanam Xposed to reset the Custom Binary to Official and then you would be able to install it.
However, SuperSU MAY not survive the Survival Mode, and may or may not trip KNOX.
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with wanam installed, the phone is willing to download the OTA, but the actual install failed. maybe it detected the system modification, maybe the system is too dirty to do a upgrade without factory reset. i donno.
with wanam removed, the phone is not willing to start the OTA at all.
maybe I will try mobile odin and install bootloader in another step, as I see people are having good result in sprint note 3. or I will try a factory reset before trying OTA with wanam installed, again.
will post my result here.
mobilevil said:
with wanam installed, the phone is willing to download the OTA, but the actual install failed. maybe it detected the system modification, maybe the system is too dirty to do a upgrade without factory reset. i donno.
with wanam removed, the phone is not willing to start the OTA at all.
maybe I will try mobile odin and install bootloader in another step, as I see people are having good result in sprint note 3. or I will try a factory reset before trying OTA with wanam installed, again.
will post my result here.
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Hold up. Since you have the N9005, no matter what you do you will trip your KNOX when you're on 4.4.
If you want the OTA no matter what, download the stock firmware from SamMobile and flash it in Odin. Root will be removed and you can start to use OTAs any time you want.
nicholaschum said:
Hold up. Since you have the N9005, no matter what you do you will trip your KNOX when you're on 4.4.
If you want the OTA no matter what, download the stock firmware from SamMobile and flash it in Odin. Root will be removed and you can start to use OTAs any time you want.
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no big deal. I will move to CM sooner or later....just want to keep KNOX as long as possible

[Q] Unroot after rooted with Towelroot on SM-G900F?

Hi, I would like to ask you guys if the device can be unroot after it has been rooted with Towelroot?
I heard many people said about using SuperSU to remove the root.
However, I am not sure if the unroot process is safe and be able to give me a full warranty back.
Thank you.
minin0la said:
Hi, I would like to ask you guys if the device can be unroot after it has been rooted with Towelroot?
I heard many people said about using SuperSU to remove the root.
However, I am not sure if the unroot process is safe and be able to give me a full warranty back.
Thank you.
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I've unrooted my s5 before and it wasn't hard. Just flash an unroot pda with Odin. Saves all your data. But I think it will trip the Knox counter, so It'll void your warranty. So I'm not 100% sure if you'll be able to keep your warranty
nick.delaserda said:
I've unrooted my s5 before and it wasn't hard. Just flash an unroot pda with Odin. Saves all your data. But I think it will trip the Knox counter, so It'll void your warranty. So I'm not 100% sure if you'll be able to keep your warranty
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Dude, what advice is this? :crying: Flash an unroot PDA? What do you mean with that?. Just unroot from within the superSU app, flash a stock rom and do a data factory reset. Takes about 5-7 minutes if done correctly.
gee2012 said:
Dude, what advice is this? :crying: Flash an unroot PDA? What do you mean with that?. Just unroot from within the superSU app, flash a stock rom and do a data factory reset. Takes about 5-7 minutes if done correctly.
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Flash an unroot tar file. That's what I was told. I did it and it worked fine. No more root. But you can unroot with supersu?? I never knew that
gee2012 said:
Dude, what advice is this? :crying: Flash an unroot PDA? What do you mean with that?. Just unroot from within the superSU app, flash a stock rom and do a data factory reset. Takes about 5-7 minutes if done correctly.
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I unroot my phone with this method:
I go to recovery wipe data and cache and after this flash the stock rom So this method is a correct one or wrong? Thank you
SAMPPLE said:
I unroot my phone with this method:
I go to recovery wipe data and cache and after this flash the stock rom So this method is a correct one or wrong? Thank you
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Just unroot from within the superSU app, flash a stock rom with Odin and data factory reset afterwards. Thats how i do it.
gee2012 said:
Just unroot from within the superSU app, flash a stock rom with Odin and data factory reset afterwards. Thats how i do it.
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Aha... Ok Thank you!
gee2012 said:
Just unroot from within the superSU app, flash a stock rom with Odin and data factory reset afterwards. Thats how i do it.
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Factory Reset after flashing stock ROM? So, factory reset in stock recovery?
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Simone said:
Factory Reset after flashing stock ROM? So, factory reset in stock recovery?
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Or in settings/backup and restore/factory reset
gee2012 said:
Just unroot from within the superSU app, flash a stock rom with Odin and data factory reset afterwards. Thats how i do it.
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gee2012 said:
Or in settings/backup and restore/factory reset
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I have tried the method and everything works.
My device is now unrooted.
No KNOX trip after flash stock rom with odin.
The device status is official too.
Thanks!
Still a bit confused
Confused is my normal state...
In Super User the only options I have are for OTA survival and for temp unroot.
To unroot would I only need to select the temp unroot option then go into the S5's settings and do a factory reset (under the backup/restore selections) or would I temp unroot with superuser, then go into Odin (on my pc) and flash a factory rom?
With the Odin option of doing this,if it is necessary, where can I get the factory rom for Version's S5 for this process?
I just unrooted using SuperSu's full unroot option and wiped cache from the stock recovery and boom. Worked for me.
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klacenas said:
I just unrooted using SuperSu's full unroot option and wiped cache from the stock recovery and boom. Worked for me.
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Thanks klacenas, Where/how did you wipe the cache "from the stock recovery"? Also as an aside... did this cause you to lose any apps or files (photos, music, txt files type stuff) when you did the unrooting?
Sorry to be a pain.
CallMeTut said:
Thanks klacenas, Where/how did you wipe the cache "from the stock recovery"? Also as an aside... did this cause you to lose any apps or files (photos, music, txt files type stuff) when you did the unrooting?
Sorry to be a pain.
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By Unrooting only, you will not lost any of your personal data that stored on your phone. However when you do factory reset, your personal data that stored on the phone will be lost.
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minin0la said:
I have tried the method and everything works.
My device is now unrooted.
No KNOX trip after flash stock rom with odin.
The device status is official too.
Thanks!
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i unrooted with supersu and tried to use odin and i get a Fail in the top box. and on my phone it says after odin fail:
Product name: SM-G900A
Current Binary: Samsung Official
System Status: Custom
Reactivation Lock[kk]: OFF
Knox Warranty Void: 0x0
qualcomm secure: enable [csb]
UDC START
SW REV CHECK FAIL : [ABOUT]Fuse 2 > Binary 1
does any one know what i need to do to get rid the unlock custom when i rebooting my phone?
tmadekush said:
i unrooted with supersu and tried to use odin and i get a Fail in the top box. and on my phone it says after odin fail:
Product name: SM-G900A
Current Binary: Samsung Official
System Status: Custom
Reactivation Lock[kk]: OFF
Knox Warranty Void: 0x0
qualcomm secure: enable [csb]
UDC START
SW REV CHECK FAIL : [ABOUT]Fuse 2 > Binary 1
does any one know what i need to do to get rid the unlock custom when i rebooting my phone?
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Try a data factory reset and flash the rom again, that should help.
gee2012 said:
Try a data factory reset and flash the rom again, that should help.
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I just tried it same message on my phone and the fail message on odin.
tmadekush said:
I just tried it same message on my phone and the fail message on odin.
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Have you ever flashed a custom recovery, kernel or rom on this device?
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Have you ever flashed a custom recovery, kernel or rom on this device?
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No i didnt think they had any stable kernels or roms and i couldnt find a custom recovery for the att s5. just rooted it with towelroot acoulpe weeks ago. i've been having problems charger the phone and att is sending me another one. thats only reason why im tryin to figure this out. i dont want send this phone back with that custom status and the unlock image on the screen.
tmadekush said:
No i didnt think they had any stable kernels or roms and i couldnt find a custom recovery for the att s5. just rooted it with towelroot acoulpe weeks ago. i've been having problems charger the phone and att is sending me another one. thats only reason why im tryin to figure this out. i dont want send this phone back with that custom status and the unlock image on the screen.
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Don`t realy understand why the status is custom when you unrooted from within the superSU app and did a factory reset after that

[Q] Knox 0x0 and downgrade w/ Odin

Hello
Is there a way to downgrade xxugng8 kitkat on i9505, without trigger Knox efuse, to the latest stock Knox enable fw supported by towelroot v3 in order to root my device without void the warranty?
-> which is the latest stock fw/kernel supported by towelroot and is it downloadable in sammobile?
Thanks.
Guillaume
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querty75 said:
Hello
Is there a way to downgrade xxugng8 kitkat on i9505, without trigger Knox efuse, to the latest stock Knox enable fw supported by towelroot v3 in order to root my device without void the warranty?
-> which is the latest stock fw/kernel supported by towelroot and is it downloadable in sammobile?
Thanks.
Guillaume
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You cannot currently downgrade from a knox enabled bootloader to a non knox enabled bootloader.
querty75 said:
Hello
Is there a way to downgrade xxugng8 kitkat on i9505, without trigger Knox efuse, to the latest stock Knox enable fw supported by towelroot v3 in order to root my device without void the warranty?
-> which is the latest stock fw/kernel supported by towelroot and is it downloadable in sammobile?
Thanks.
Guillaume
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Yes, it's possible. You can downgrade to NF1 and then user Towelroot.
Our you use this method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/general/root-how-to-obtain-root-permissions-t2862768
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DarkerTimes said:
Yes, it's possible. You can downgrade to NF1 and then user Towelroot.
Our you use this method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/general/root-how-to-obtain-root-permissions-t2862768
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Thank you so much!!!!!
You're the best! :good::good::good:
Root keeped after factory reset
DarkerTimes said:
Yes, it's possible. You can downgrade to NF1 and then user Towelroot.
Our you use this method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/general/root-how-to-obtain-root-permissions-t2862768
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I followed this method and it's worked well.
I did a factory reset because my phone became not stable with time - probably because I froze too many Knox app. or install some app. I shouldn't not - and I was very surprised to constate that my phone was kept rooted.
I don't understand why. A factory reset doesn't reset the kernel at well?
Also I wanted to dd my /data, and for this I needed to umount it. When I booted in recovery mode, adb seemed not to run... I tried Odin mode too but looks the same, adb launched on my PC didn't see my device.
Of course I checked everythings and adb does work well when the phone is fully booted.
The stock recovery doesn't allow to make system/data backup... - no menu items - is this normal?
I cannot flash any custom recovery because I want my Knox remains 0x0.
Thanks for your comments,
gb
gballet said:
I followed this method and it's worked well.
I did a factory reset because my phone became not stable with time - probably because I froze too many Knox app. or install some app. I shouldn't not - and I was very surprised to constate that my phone was kept rooted.
I don't understand why. A factory reset doesn't reset the kernel at well?
Also I wanted to dd my /data, and for this I needed to umount it. When I booted in recovery mode, adb seemed not to run... I tried Odin mode too but looks the same, adb launched on my PC didn't see my device.
Of course I checked everythings and adb does work well when the phone is fully booted.
The stock recovery doesn't allow to make system/data backup... - no menu items - is this normal?
I cannot flash any custom recovery because I want my Knox remains 0x0.
Thanks for your comments,
gb
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Yes with a stock recovery your aren't able to make a complete system backup. And flashing a custom recovery will trip the Knox counter.
I don't deal with ADB, i can't help you with this, sorry.
No, a factory reset doesn't wipe kernel this would be very bad.
You have to delete every Knox app because they might cause reboots to your device.
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DarkerTimes said:
Yes with a stock recovery your aren't able to make a complete system backup. And flashing a custom recovery will trip the Knox counter.
I don't deal with ADB, i can't help you with this, sorry.
No, a factory reset doesn't wipe kernel this would be very bad.
You have to delete every Knox app because they might cause reboots to your device.
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Hello DarkTimes,
Thank you for your answering.
I don't know if deleting Knox app. cause reboots of device but freezing them for sure does!
For now, Knox doesn't have admin rights and doesn't bother me so I leave it untouched on my device...
I prefer to not attempt to delete them... because my phone seems quite stable after my factory reset...
Regards
gballet said:
Hello DarkTimes,
Thank you for your answering.
I don't know if deleting Knox app. cause reboots of device but freezing them for sure does!
For now, Knox doesn't have admin rights and doesn't bother me so I leave it untouched on my device...
I prefer to not attempt to delete them... because my phone seems quite stable after my factory reset...
Regards
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Fine, yes if everything is all right don't touch it. Sounds good. [emoji106]
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[Q] I unrooted my Galaxy S5 SM-G900F but device status is still modified

So I unrooted and installed offical rom for my Galaxy s5 SM-G900F to update it, but the device status is still modifed so how to get status to offical?
Villq said:
So I unrooted and installed offical rom for my Galaxy s5 SM-G900F to update it, but the device status is still modifed so how to get status to offical?
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Do a data factory reset and it should say official. BTW next time first use Triangle Away to reset the status and binaries, then unroot and after that flash a stock rom and data factory reset.
didn't worked
I did data factory reset, but device status is still modified
Villq said:
I did data factory reset, but device status is still modified
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Thats why i posted how to do it properly a few posts earlier. There is no cutting corners if you want to do it right. Just reroot and follow my guide and all will be official.
Guide:
I use these steps to unroot and get to Official:
1. Install Triangle Away to reset the official status and binaries (make sure you have a stock rom/kerel/recovery if you do this or flash a stock rom first with Mobile Odin Pro).
2. Unroot from within the superSU app.
3. Flash a stock rom.
4. Data factory reset in recovery.
Villq said:
So I unrooted and installed offical rom for my Galaxy s5 SM-G900F to update it, but the device status is still modifed so how to get status to offical?
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try this
if you have a micro SD remove it and do a wipe factory reset and wipe cache partitions in recovery mode
It worked after I removed micro SD card. thanks

Custom Recovery not possible - new protection from Samsung?

Hi!
I have tried to install a custom recovery image on different ways on my new Galaxy S5 (SM-G900F, Andoird 5.0, G900FXXU1BOD3, DBT) for root, de-bloat, etc with no success. Is there some new protection from Samsung to avoid the use of a custom recovery image?
I have tried the following procedures:
1.
-data/factory reset, wipe cache
-flash different custom recoveries with odin openrecovery-twrp-2.8.5.0-gt-klte.tar / philz_touch_6.26.2-klte.tar.md5 / twrp-2.8.6.0-klte.tar (no auto reboot in odin)
-remove battery after flash
-boot into recovery
Result:
Screen shows: RECOVERY BOOTING...., Set Warranty Bit: recovery -> then comes a black screen (also after 15 minutes), no reaction on pushing keys, custom recovery mode is not working
2.
-data/factory reset, wipe cache
-flash Android 4 stock rom DBT-G900FXXU1ANE2 (for towelroot)
Result:
Screen keeps black all the time, buttons and phone are working
So, I switched back to Android 5 in blind flight
3.
-data/factory reset, wipe cache
-flash Android 4 stock rom DBT-G900FXXU1ANG2
-flash Kernel KERNEL_G900FXXU1ANE2.tar.md5 (for towelroot)
Result:
Phone is not booting
So, I switched back to Android 5
What did I miss (no problems with galaxy S1-S4)? Is there some new protection from Samsung to avoid custom recoveries?
All you have to do is ensure no F-Time reset is ticked, and force the phone into recovery mode. That drove me crazy in my G900F, cause I were accustomed to my S2 and S3. LOL
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worf_1977 said:
All you have to do is ensure no F-Time reset is ticked, and force the phone into recovery mode. That drove me crazy in my G900F, cause I were accustomed to my S2 and S3. LOL
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Thank you for your hint. I have always checked the odin option "F. Reset Time". But the custom recovery is not working (black screen after forcing recovery, removing batterie/long power button holding is necessary to use the phone again). If I am the only one who has this problem, maybe the device has a hardware failure?
The stock recovery always works fine.
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Thank you for your hint. I have always checked the odin option "F. Reset Time". But the custom recovery is not working (black screen after forcing recovery, removing batterie/long power button holding is necessary to use the phone again). If I am the only one who has this problem, maybe the device has a hardware failure?
The stock recovery always works fine.
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Maybe you're flashing incorrect recovery image?
If rooted, use this to install TWRP (Install Busybox first)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jmz.soft.twrpmanager&hl=en_GB
Keeping an eye on this thread to see where it goes, as I have heard *rumours* of 'beefed up' security on Samsung's LP firmwares......
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TheATHEiST said:
Maybe you're flashing incorrect recovery image?
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I have used the following sources:
openrecovery-twrp-2.8.5.0-gt-klte.tar: techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/klte
philz_touch_6.26.2-klte.tar.md5: downloadandroidrom.com/file/GalaxyS5/CWM/Qualcomm/philz_touch_6.26.2-klte.tar.md5
twrp-2.8.6.0-klte.tar: dl.twrp.me/klte/
I assume that at least one of the sources should be correct. But no one is working.
*Detection* said:
If rooted, use this to install TWRP (Install Busybox first)
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Good idea, but how to root, if there seems to be no way to...
towelroot:
Android 4, G900FXXU1ANE2, stock image is not running
Android 4, G900FXXU1ANG2, device is not supported in towelroot
Android 5, G900FXXU1BOD3, device is not supported in towelroot
chainfire via custom recovery:
not possible, force recovery lead to black screen
Is there another way to root one of the stock images Android 4 G900FXXU1ANG2 or Android 5 G900FXXU1BOD3?
b8213 said:
Good idea, but how to root, if there seems to be no way to...
towelroot:
Android 4, G900FXXU1ANE2, stock image is not running
Android 4, G900FXXU1ANG2, device is not supported in towelroot
Android 5, G900FXXU1BOD3, device is not supported in towelroot
chainfire via custom recovery:
not possible, force recovery lead to black screen
Is there another way to root one of the stock images Android 4 G900FXXU1ANG2 or Android 5 G900FXXU1BOD3?
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CF Auto Root & ODIN
You're not alone! Im trying to root/flash custom recovery on my S5 (also G900FXXU1BOD3) since Friday, same approach as you. Tried everything I could find, nothing works.
Keeping an eye on this thread.
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CF Auto Root & ODIN
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Thanks.
I have also tried this: flashing of chainfires auto root via odin, then straight ahaed to recovery mode -> black screen (no execution of chainfires script, device is not rooted)
Running ODIN as Admin?
Got phone in Download Mode?
Samsung Drivers installed?
Using a native PC?
*Detection* said:
Running ODIN as Admin?
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Yes, have tried Odin 3.07 and 3.10.6 run as administrator
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Got phone in Download Mode?
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yes, download mode is always possible
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Samsung Drivers installed?
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yes, the last one v. 1.5.51.0
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Using a native PC?
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yes, its a notebook with native win 7 SP1 64 bit (no vm)
Do you have another machine you can try flashing it from?
Different USB cable?
*Detection* said:
Do you have another machine you can try flashing it from?
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I have already tried adb sideload from an ubuntu pc - same result (black screen). At the moment, I have no other Windows machine to try flashing from.
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Different USB cable?
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Yes, I have tried the original white one and an old black one - same result (black screen)
Flashing the stock rom from Android 4.4 ANG2 <-> Android 5 BOD1 via odin works fine. Also flashing only stock recovery.img (via odin, packed as tar) works fine. Before I am going to try to flash a custom recovery, I made sure that stock recovery is flashed an working.
I'm just leaving this here in case someone solves it. Running G900FXXU1BOD3 and need root.
Try to flash back to ANG(X), boot, then flash ANE2 kernel and use toweloroot. And ignore the FC's you should be getting, and reflash ANG2 kernel.
That should do it. If not, well, I'm in the dark (you can't use Samsung's service claiming that you are not able to root the phone LOL)
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Bought a Galaxy S5 yesterday and tried to flash from 5.0 to 4.4.2. It´s Mission Impossible.
When i flash anything older than ANG2 the phone boots but Display stays completly black.
tried to flash from G900FXXU1BOD3 to G900FXXU1ANE2 -----> Black Display
tried to flash from G900FXXU1BOD3 to G900FXXU1ANG2 -----> works, but towelroot does not support G900FXXU1ANG2
tried to flash from G900FXXU1BOD3 to G900FXXU1ANG2 and flash the G900FXXU1ANE2 Kernel -----> Black Display
This ties in with what I've heard rumours of......that something in a 5.0 firmware is not erased/overwritten during a rollback to 4.4 and causes 'problems'......
I wonder if flashing a pit would sort it out? If I understand how a pit file works, I *think* it formats the partitions and re writes them......that being the case, it should erase every trace of any pre existing OS allowing you to flash onto a completely blank device......somebody please CMIIW......
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Yep, that's my understanding of PIT files too
But I have flashed back from the latest LP to KK without any problems
And CF Auto Root still works like it did with any firmwares
If Samsung had changed something, everyone would be having the same problems surely

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