Hey all. New to the forum, new to samsung, and new to tasker yadda yadda....
Does anyone know how to control some of the touchwhiz features with tasker? Particularly I'd like to turn off the galaxy s5 toolbox when I'm running certain programs. Perhaps need root to access?
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After having read through ADB, deodexing, and a couple scripting/theming guides. I was wondering if there was any way to port/duplicate/enable Samsumg Tw widgets on other launchers either as a seperate framework(?)/entity that does not need the whole TW framework in order to run or maybe doing it from deodexing?
I'm not sure, but the idea seems capable and plausible just the issue would be how to pursue and accomplish it... Sorta like porting or modding the multitouch keyboard to work on other devives. And if TW Launcher was needed, wouldnt that just be a snippet of code or switch that would require the launcher which means you should be able to switch or disable it by either switching the launcher requirements with another or say having whats necessary for the widget to work off of the tw launcher and than switching the launcher requirements?
About deodexing you should be able to edit the files to set permission for other launcher uses right? :/
**I have read other threads but they just dont seem to quite answer the specific questions I have about the ability to port/mod/duplicte/adjusting system files through deodexing/permission rights.
Im new to the community and this is my first android phone but ive jailbroken/modded many things before and have coded c++ and a lil javascript before. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
Try talking to the devs at the irc channel, samsung-fascinate on freenode.
Ok thanks.
The question is more along the lines of what's the benefit of installing a custom rom? or rooting the device. I'm an iphone user right now, but i've been following this forum and reading posts cause I definitely wanted to buy an android and this is the one im getting. I was gonna get the GS3 and I understand why you would wanna install a custom rom on a GS3 (to get rid of touchwiz and have stock android) but what's the benefit of having a custom rom on an already stock android cellphone like Nexus 4 or Galaxy Nexus. :fingers-crossed:
Options and more control over the phone. Ability to over clock/under clock.
Titanium Backup, Light Flow, ES File Explorer, Ad Block... a few other awesome apps that need root to work..
This question is hardly specific to the N4. But a quick Google search will yield you lots of reasons and/or benefits if you will.
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Customizability. You can make the phone fully yours, have it run how you want it to run, to include faster or more efficiently. In theory, anyone can learn to dev and make exactly what they want their phone to be. Though in practice we usually just settle for whichever devs' preferences match our own, and are extremely thankful that somebody made it happen.
Consider my sister's phone, actually a nexus S, unrooted. I'm on a galaxy S and I'm running the 4.2 camera and keyboard. I showed those to her and she was so stoked, but she refuses to root, so I can't install them on her phone.
There is considerably less reason to root with such a device as this, but you do need root access to install some really cool and useful apps, especially Ti Backup as mentioned above. Don't forget that rooting is nothing like jailbreaking, as the latter is way more intrusive, that is, jailbreaking can indeed potentially render the iphone less stable. However, root access is simply elevated rights to the ROM (system) partition. But, you don't really need it. Just enjoy the phone and don't sweat the need for it.
Indeed. I think people equate rooting to jailbreaking but it's very different. Even with root access, apps need permission from you to run at root level. The first time you run them a message will ask you if you want to grant them permission (you can then tick an 'always allow' box for that app). If anything nasty tries to run at root level you will be prompted about it and if you aren't expecting it, you can just deny it.
I have rooted every android device I've owned, mainly for apps like Titanium Backup, AdFree, Game Guardian but also for customisations like different status bars or modded system apps.
You don't NEED to root, Android is more open than iOS out of the box. For example you can have different keyboards, messaging apps, diallers, alarms, calendars, navigation etc without needing root.
Basically gaining full access to the system. Some "programs" require modifying/accessing the system stuff. The best root app I think of is Tasker, which allows you to create almost any scenario to associate with an action. For example, disable sync between 12am to 7am, also mute all notifications. Also, if you open Maps/Navigation/tracking applications, automatically turn on GPS and turn off GPS when you exit. Also, when I plug in earphone ask to open either Phone app or Google Music. Also search for wifi ssid, if it matches my school's wifi, then connect to wifi and turn the phone to vibration. When leaving school turn off wifi and turn on ringtones. If ssid matches home's ssid, then disable lockscreen, turn on ringtone and connect to my home wifi. All of those require root access.
It's the same as the root access as in any other Linux system. Think Administrator privilege on Windows. However, it does come with some risk of others accessing your information/password. But as others have said, be careful about which app you grant root access. I only grant root access to those well-trusted apps.
coming from an iPhone, you wont really need root access. you can still do much more than iOS without root. I don't think you should also be getting into customization and stuff as a new android user, as the Nexus 4 is already stock android. Just enjoy the stock experience and you can root later once you have more knowledge of android and want to start doing more complex tasks.
AdFree and DroidWall. Along with many other things like flashing ROMs.
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AdFree and DroidWall. Along with many other things like flashing ROMs.
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AdAway ftw
Hi,
I read about the new App Ops (hidden) feature in the stock 4.3 that Google recently released to their Nexus devices. With the S4 that we have, I suspect it will be a while before we get 4.3 from Samsung/Sprint.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...ager-control-permissions-for-individual-apps/
App Ops basically lets you selectively disable some permissions for your apps.
I know that XPrivacy does something very similar - maybe even better because instead of just denying that permission (that may cause the app to fail), it feeds dummy data (like dummy GPS coordinates, or empty contact list etc). Unfortunately for me, the XPosed Framework that is required to make XPrivacy work causes one particular app on my device (Q-see) to misbehave (screen doesn't render correctly), and I really need that to work.
Yes, I realize that it is probably a bug in the Q-see app, but I can't seem to get Q-see to fix it. (I did contribute to the XPrivacy developer regardless because it was a very impressive app)
Anyway, back to my request
Can a developer take a look at the 4.3 code and see if there is a way to extract the code for the App Ops functionality and build an apk (or a flashable mod) that will work on the stock rooted Sprint S4? (I really like some of the features that the stock ROM offers - else, I would have tried CM and used their privacy guard options instead)
I'm not sure exactly where best to ask the question, but hopefully I can communicate my intent clearly enough. I'm a programmer and android is still fairly new to me, as I've done mostly Windows and a little Unix programming for most of my career, so I'm curious of a few aspects that I'm not so familiar with.
The gist of my question is really dealing more with some of the nuts and bolts of an android installation I suppose? I'm really trying to learn more of the guts of android and a
In using my Nexus I don't use Bluetooh, or NFC, or 99% of the widgets that get installed, I know there are a ton of tools out there that allow you to manipulate and see various aspects of the system, such as intents running services, etc...
If I turn off NFC and Bluetooth in the settings panel, I still see bluetooth and NFC tasks running in the system. What would be the resulting effect if I took a tool such as "NoBloat" and disabled Bluetooth and NFC?? Would there be any performance gain/degradation? Would I also have to use a tool and disable all Bluetooth intents?
Is there a tool to modify an app's permissions, for example, is there a way to modify YouTube/Google Music/Gmail etc wanting to start at boot, or an app's desire to keep the tablet awake, and again, what would be the benefit/detriment of it?
I've used a few tools, AutoStarts, NoBloat, Greenify, etc... but really want to know more about the system impacts etc...
And if it's a stupid question... at least be gentle! :laugh:
Hi
I have decided to move back to android from iOS as i would like to have more freedom and less dependency on itunes
I am having some issues with android
The biggest one is app permissions on ios i was able to choose which permissons i can give an app however on android its take it or leave it. Please please help me on this.
I know i can root my S5 and i might be able to control app permissions however i am worried i wont be able to use my banking apps after rooting my device.
I will appreciate a simple solution to this as i am not very technical and dont understand much about rooting (you cant blame me i am an ios user)
Thanks
I had that same issue you are worried about......I rooted my device and some apps detected this and refused to function. I got around it by installing xposed framework and adding the Rootcloak module to it......The apps in question can't tell I have root now......
Edit......Rootcloak contains a list of *known* root checking apps, but also offers the capability of adding new apps to the list if your app is not listed.....
Edit 2.......Welcome back from the dark side...... lol
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Hi Keith thanks for the info
Could you please direct me to a newbie friendly root method.
humadoon said:
Hi Keith thanks for the info
Could you please direct me to a newbie friendly root method.
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That depends on whether you are running 4.4.2 KK or 5.0.0 LP.......
But whichever Android version you have, you'll need to use a PC/Laptop and some software called Odin.......
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Could you guide me towards any step by step guide so much confusing info for newbie i dont want to brick my phone
As I said in my previous post, we need to know which version of Android your phone is running in order to direct you to the correct method......
You'll find that info in......
Settings >> general >> about device
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humadoon said:
Hi
I have decided to move back to android from iOS as i would like to have more freedom and less dependency on itunes
I am having some issues with android
The biggest one is app permissions on ios i was able to choose which permissons i can give an app however on android its take it or leave it. Please please help me on this.
I know i can root my S5 and i might be able to control app permissions however i am worried i wont be able to use my banking apps after rooting my device.
I will appreciate a simple solution to this as i am not very technical and dont understand much about rooting (you cant blame me i am an ios user)
Thanks
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Hello
Welcome in the Android familly!
Getting root access on the phone removes the basis of the security feature of the Android framework. For sure you will have more control on the application installed but some malware could
take benefit from the fact your phone is rooted. It is not surprising that critical stuff like banking does not want to run if the phone is rooted. This beeing said I rooted my previous phone (GS3) and
might well root this one (GS5) after a while.
For me main reason for rooting the phone was enabling automatic control of data on/off/ wifi on/off, flight mode which have been removed from latest Android revisions.
However when you give root access to an application that ask for it, you just give it more responsibility/power over your phone content/stability/integrity.
Apps without root support cannot "damage" the phone/content by construct because they only have access to their own stuff.
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Hello
Welcome in the Android familly!
Getting root access on the phone removes the basis of the security feature of the Android framework. For sure you will have more control on the application installed but some malware could
take benefit from the fact your phone is rooted. It is not surprising that critical stuff like banking does not want to run if the phone is rooted. This beeing said I rooted my previous phone (GS3) and
might well root this one (GS5) after a while.
For me main reason for rooting the phone was enabling automatic control of data on/off/ wifi on/off, flight mode which have been removed from latest Android revisions.
However when you give root access to an application that ask for it, you just give it more responsibility/power over your phone content/stability/integrity.
Apps without root support cannot "damage" the phone/content by construct because they only have access to their own stuff.
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Hi thanks i agree.
I wish android could give more control to users so they dont have to take the rooting route as i said my only reason is i want to control app permissions. I should have the right to choose which areas i allow fb to i dont want fb to save my contacts on their servers or my location.
humadoon said:
Hi thanks i agree.
I wish android could give more control to users so they dont have to take the rooting route as i said my only reason is i want to control app permissions. I should have the right to choose which areas i allow fb to i dont want fb to save my contacts on their servers or my location.
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Lol.....do what I do.......bookmark their mobile site, and save a shortcut to your home screen........no more resource hogging apps (FB and messenger) and no more dodgy permission requests.......
You won't get notifications anymore.......but is that REALLY that important that you do?
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My only concern from making the switch from iphone 6 to note 4 is the loss of imessage encryption witch is pretty solid to now using the basic sms messanger. There is 3rd party apps but they require both people to be on them. As far as documents and photos go google drive is encrypted just like i cloud i believe. Life would be perfect if they had imessage for android. I am rooted and set permissions based on what the app is and delete unnecessary Google apps like google + ect.
Edit but I also dont use Facebook ect only instagram
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Got myself a oneplus one which is perfect I can now restrict apps and also use banking apps