Please lend me ROM guidance - Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I never allowed the first big update (im on 4.3), assuming Verizon would slow my phone down. So, what steps and which ROM do you suggest? I am really just looking to tether(wired and wireless) and want the phone to stay smooth. I don't want to lose any S-Pen or Samsung functions but do not care for Touchwiz.
Thanks for advice!

skidawgz said:
I never allowed the first big update (im on 4.3), assuming Verizon would slow my phone down. So, what steps and which ROM do you suggest? I am really just looking to tether(wired and wireless) and want the phone to stay smooth. I don't want to lose any S-Pen or Samsung functions but do not care for Touchwiz.
Thanks for advice!
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S-pen is a touchwiz implementation so for the most part you are stuck there. Go through the stock based ROMs, find something debloated, back up, try it, then maybe look for some AOSP type themes and apps for your phone. You will have to do some of the leg work and research as there is no easy path for you to get what you are asking.

KennyG123 said:
S-pen is a touchwiz implementation so for the most part you are stuck there. Go through the stock based ROMs, find something debloated, back up, try it, then maybe look for some AOSP type themes and apps for your phone. You will have to do some of the leg work and research as there is no easy path for you to get what you are asking.
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Should I accept the OTA update first or does it not matter? I'm not sure what NC2 vs NC4 is.

skidawgz said:
Should I accept the OTA update first or does it not matter? I'm not sure what NC2 vs NC4 is.
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Are you on the NC2 kitkat leak? You should read this thread about avoiding ending up with a locked bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2727876

KennyG123 said:
Are you on the NC2 kitkat leak? You should read this thread about avoiding ending up with a locked bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2727876
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nope, i am not. i am on 4.3... and you just saved me from being severly angry later.

skidawgz said:
nope, i am not. i am on 4.3... and you just saved me from being severly angry later.
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Yeah...gotta love Verizon!! OK...so you should proceed as mentioned in that thread. I am a Sprint user but try to keep up on everything under my watch. I will leave you in, I am sure, very capable hands by the awesome Samsung users around here.

Looks like there is some hope for your Spen...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2611415
But most Samsung apps would still not work without TW.

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[REQUEST] Root injected Flashable Stock AT&T ROMs

Not sure if this is in the right place. I apologize if its not and please move it accordingly.
For the S3 there was a running thread where some developer would take every AT&T update, inject root into it and make it available for flashing via custom recovery. I know there is a subset of members here who are fine with TW. And now with the work Nottach put into his xposed module we get all the cool theming without losing TW features. We can also freeze or remove stock stuff as we see fit since all future updates would be flashed this way. This allows that subset of folks to freeze the stock updates and still be on the latest and greatest instead of updating and then rooting again. Its also a great restore option without needing Kies or ODIN once you have the custom recovery installed. If its possible now that we have custom recoveries I would love for someone who is capable to make it happen. Right now it's just the original and MDL update.
Just my request. I belong to that subset.
hamzer11 said:
Not sure if this is in the right place. I apologize if its not and please move it accordingly.
For the S3 there was a running thread where some developer would take every AT&T update, inject root into it and make it available for flashing via custom recovery. I know there is a subset of members here who are fine with TW. And now with the work Nottach put into his xposed module we get all the cool theming without losing TW features. We can also freeze or remove stock stuff as we see fit since all future updates would be flashed this way. This allows that subset of folks to freeze the stock updates and still be on the latest and greatest instead of updating and then rooting again. Its also a great restore option without needing Kies or ODIN once you have the custom recovery installed. If its possible now that we have custom recoveries I would love for someone who is capable to make it happen. Right now it's just the original and MDL update.
Just my request. I belong to that subset.
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This is available. If you add the Samsung Crap Pac back you get the base Rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2280556
rfb813 said:
This is available. If you add the Samsung Crap Pac back you get the base Rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2280556
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That ROM is not at all stock. It's been deodexed, zipaligned, etc. etc. Along with a few other mods. The OP is looking for root to be the only modification done to the ROM.
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I'm looking for something similar to the OP, but with the ROM being deodexed, zip aligned, init.d support, just not as pre-modified as MDOB is. A happy medium. I'm guessing the ROM Nottach is planning to release will be exactly what I'm looking for, gotta keep my fingers crossed!
KryptosXLayer2 said:
I'm looking for something similar to the OP, but with the ROM being deodexed, zip aligned, init.d support, just not as pre-modified as MDOB is. A happy medium. I'm guessing the ROM Nottach is planning to release will be exactly what I'm looking for, gotta keep my fingers crossed!
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ROMs like that usually get posted for devs to use as a base for their custom ROMs. So hopefully we'll see that soon.
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plwalsh88 said:
ROMs like that usually get posted for devs to use as a base for their custom ROMs. So hopefully we'll see that soon.
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Agreed, just gotta get on board with it before the originator of the "stock TW - rooted, deodexed, zip aligned, init.d support" ROM turns it into a circus with all the crazy mods no one initially wanted.... I've seen that happen one too many times and it actually caused me to unsubscribe from the thread! Too much work turns that stock ROM into what YOU actually want on your phone, not many others!
Please note, I'm NOT talking about MDOB, I like that ROM for what it is, but I want to bring it back one step before too many features are stripped off of it so I can choose what to remove myself, as well as allow full integration of Nottach's work and my SystemUI tweaks! Hell, if I knew what I was doing with some of this stuff, I'd try and make one myself, I just don't have the skill, time, or patience to maintain a thread on it though, unfortunately
KryptosXLayer2 said:
Agreed, just gotta get on board with it before the originator of the "stock TW - rooted, deodexed, zip aligned, init.d support" ROM turns it into a circus with all the crazy mods no one initially wanted.... I've seen that happen one too many times and it actually caused me to unsubscribe from the thread! Too much work turns that stock ROM into what YOU actually want on your phone, not many others!
Please note, I'm NOT talking about MDOB, I like that ROM for what it is, but I want to bring it back one step before too many features are stripped off of it so I can choose what to remove myself, as well as allow full integration of Nottach's work and my SystemUI tweaks! Hell, if I knew what I was doing with some of this stuff, I'd try and make one myself, I just don't have the skill, time, or patience to maintain a thread on it though, unfortunately
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+1 on this
Every other device I've had I have been able to get just a deodexed rom with root only. I guess we will have to learn or wait some more.
I guess I agree with you guys on a few of the other things I would do any way (de-odes, etc) and having the ability to remove what I want. I hope someone takes heed. Root injected ROM please (deodexed, zipaligned, etc ok) but then leave it to me to do whatever else. Anyone taking up the task?
KryptosXLayer2 said:
I'm looking for something similar to the OP, but with the ROM being deodexed, zip aligned, init.d support, just not as pre-modified as MDOB is. A happy medium. I'm guessing the ROM Nottach is planning to release will be exactly what I'm looking for, gotta keep my fingers crossed!
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Didn't know he was releasing one. Is there a thread already?
hamzer11 said:
Didn't know he was releasing one. Is there a thread already?
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No thread for the ROM just yet, but here's his quote from the Xposed Mod thread:
Nottach said:
I'm working on cleaning up the app and a new battery icon implementation that should cover any ROM or SysUi.
The next release, hopefully tomorrow, will be mainly performance and compatibility optimizations.
After that release I'm going to build a ROM that will be made specifically for this MOD.
I've got ideas...
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hamzer11 said:
I think you replied in the wrong thread but I'm with you on the excitement of this pending ROM. Hopefully that's the one I keep going for some time to come. He's done a brilliant job with the module.
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For sure.... as you can see from my sig, I kept the stock TW, deodexed, rooted, etc ROM on my SIII, and I plan to do the same with the S4, just want to get it working RIGHT like Samsung should have done from the beginning.... why the hell is it 2013 and we're still using Gingerbread green everywhere? ahhh, drives me crazy....
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In due time fellows in due time, the devs I'm sure are on this little issue, and will be included in all att roms.
TheAxman said:
In due time fellows in due time, the devs I'm sure are on this little issue, and will be included in all att roms.
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Huh? The OP isn't looking to have anything included in all att ROMs. He wants one ROM. To be completely stock other than being pre-rooted.
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Huh? The OP isn't looking to have anything included in all att ROMs. He wants one ROM. To be completely stock other than being pre-rooted.
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Im talking about the updates, my bad.
This is what I meant when I posted this request. They are doing it on the international s4. Wonder why no interest here. Best part is that it keeps everything original, no counters are tripped and no status is changed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250824
I'd be really happy with a Scotts Clean Rom version, he runs the update and posts the latest rom soon after.
It's near stock and often adds options to put back in most that was stripped out.
I run it on my Note 2 and it is a thing of beauty. So smooth, still some touch-wiz but without AT&T bloat.
Unfortunately he doesn't have the funding for an AT&T S4 and thus far has only developed the Verizon S4.
http://www.scottsroms.com/content.php

Rooted 4.2.2 MDL wanting to get OTA 4.3

I am on 4.2.2 MDL and have read over these forums alot to look for my issue but i have not come across exactly what to do.
I want to get the latest OTA which is 4.3
I have the OTA for MF3 I think it is? Its the one that locked the bootloader down tight and no one wants, since no Custom ROMs
I do not want any custom roms like CWM (although I loved it on older phones) I don't want to lose the functionality I bought this phone for.
When i tried to OTA to the locked bootloader version it fails at 32% or so.
The Phone is rooted.. and busybox installed. I mostly use this just for Titanium backup my apps.
So here is my question.
I want to get to the latest version available.
I have attached a screenshot of my about, if there is any other information required i'll be happy to provide!
Please don't upgrade and loose your MDL firmware, you'll regret it. You have many options for great TW roms, like GoldenEye that will offer a much better 4.3 experience versus the AT&T stock 4.3. Your bootloader was NEVER unlocked. The MDL firmware just allowed us to use Loki, which was an easy way around it. AT&T patched this with MF3 firmware in July. They do have safestrap for MF3, but its not CWM.
What exactly can't your phone do with MDL firmware and a custom rom? I don't get that? If you upgrade OTA, you will have Samsung's new knox crap, which if you ever do anything to your phone, it will set it to 0x1 and void your warranty.
I was reading you lose the Motions and Gestures with custom ROMS, I know CWM does not support that.
I do like that feature and I do use them on my S4.
I wanted to get to 4.3 to support the Galaxy Gear eventually.
Among I also do enjoy being uptodate
I understand completely how most of you hardcore modders and rom guys love your roms.
There were only slightly features in CWM I loved, which I can live without. But to completely knock out some of the biggest features of the S4 (the motions and gestures etc) Seems a waste of even buying this device in the first place.
Sure it has great hardware and alot would argue that.. but you can buy other devices with awesome hardware.
If you can point me to a custom rom for 4.3 (that will have the full support for galaxy gear) and it will support motions and gestures and lose 0 functionality I currently have, That'd be great. But I did not see that anywhere yet.
Cronus89 said:
I was reading you lose the Motions and Gestures with custom ROMS, I know CWM does not support that.
I do like that feature and I do use them on my S4.
I wanted to get to 4.3 to support the Galaxy Gear eventually.
Among I also do enjoy being uptodate
I understand completely how most of you hardcore modders and rom guys love your roms.
There were only slightly features in CWM I loved, which I can live without. But to completely knock out some of the biggest features of the S4 (the motions and gestures etc) Seems a waste of even buying this device in the first place.
Sure it has great hardware and alot would argue that.. but you can buy other devices with awesome hardware.
If you can point me to a custom rom for 4.3 (that will have the full support for galaxy gear) and it will support motions and gestures and lose 0 functionality I currently have, That'd be great. But I did not see that anywhere yet.
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I am not sure if GoldenEye supports the Galaxy Gear, but try out that rom out first. It's based entirely off the Internation S4's 4.3 firmware and it offers a lot more. Its optimized for AT&T, and includes all the motions and gestures. You loose the motions and gestures with a non Touch-Wiz rom, like AOKP for example. But that's whats so great about custom roms. When you get bored of touch-wiz, you can flash a pure google experience and vice versa.
Maybe this is just me, but in the beginning, before we had custom recovery for MDL, I found the AT&T stock experience to be absolutely awful. By far the worst Samsung stock experience I have ever had. I also can't stand how low Samsung puts the headphone volume, along with those annoying volume nags.
Try GoldenEye out and see how you like it. If you don't, then upgrade.
I've always loved Samsungs TouchWiz, they have been my favorite UI, Galaxy S is the best imo.
Can you link me to the official Goldeneye and everything I need?
I'd appreciate that alot.
I use Titanium Backup, so app restore shouldn't be a problem and I've done it before so im ok with trying it out.
If there is any tips or tricks with restoring your apps and data switching ROMs, i'd appreciate that bit of info too.
Always feared to post on these forums since alot of people in the past get angry and talk mean to people that don't know the whole book on this
You really need to search and read up on a lot if you are unfamiliar with rooting and flashing custom roms. If you don't know what you are doing, then you WILL brick your device. If you brick your device to the point where you cannot fix it, you are SOL. Samsung will know you modified the software and your warranty will be void.
But you should start here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2297033
This tool will do it all for you. You must be on MDL firmware for this to work. Once you run that program, you'll have CWM (Auto Loki'd). Then follow the directions in the rom's OP.
GoldenEye (Based on Samsung's International 4.3 stock)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2313469
Or if you want the AT&T 4.3 stock rom, iB4StiD also has a rom for that, MDOB
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2280556
Either way, you have A LOT of reading to do. I was once new and a complete air head on how to root, flash roms, and what not. The people on this site can be ignorant jerks who don't like noobs, like yourself. You are expected to do everything on your own, and no one will hold your hand. I usually don't provide what I did above, but I would hate to see you foolishly upgrade. Once you do, you are stuck. Good Luck.
I guess I was not clear enough my apologies.
I have flashed custom recovery and roms plenty of times on my older phones.
It did take a bit of reading but once you understand what limitations your device has (what will brick it etc) its not so bad
I just wanted the "proper" links from you so I start off right, I can definately handle it from here.
Quick question when i attempted to update did it somehow maybe give me KNOX?
SuperSU asked me to remove it and i let it, and it was succesful (it might have just deactivated it i cannot recall)
Cronus89 said:
I guess I was not clear enough my apologies.
I have flashed custom recovery and roms plenty of times on my older phones.
It did take a bit of reading but once you understand what limitations your device has (what will brick it etc) its not so bad
I just wanted the "proper" links from you so I start off right, I can definately handle it from here.
Quick question when i attempted to update did it somehow maybe give me KNOX?
SuperSU asked me to remove it and i let it, and it was succesful (it might have just deactivated it i cannot recall)
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If you updated to anything, the links I provided you with will completely BRICK your phone. Your current firmware MUST BE MDL to use the links I gave you. If you are on MF3, DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT USE THE LINKS ABOVE.
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I am not sure if it gave you KNOX, since the update failed. I doubt it. But I would restore to stock MDL, then use the tool I provided you with.
lol its ok I know what im doing I know that MDL is required.
Clearly in my screenshot im on MDL... i was asking about KNOX randomly being on my phone since I thought it only came with one of the OTA updates?
I am on MDL and if you double check my screenshot does everything look ok to do the flash?
Again just wanted to double check about the knox thing.
Cronus89 said:
lol its ok I know what im doing I know that MDL is required.
Clearly in my screenshot im on MDL... i was asking about KNOX randomly being on my phone since I thought it only came with one of the OTA updates?
I am on MDL and if you double check my screenshot does everything look ok to do the flash?
Again just wanted to double check about the knox thing.
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Yeah I see your screen shot. You look good from there. However, I do not know the repercussions your failed update had, if any? I would say you are probably fine. But I am no developer, or expert.
What you need to do is restore your phone to pure MDL stock via odin. Take your SIM card OUT, so that once the phone is restored it doesn't start updating. You'll then enable USB debugging and use the tool I provided you with in the other post. After that, its cake.
Ah darn... From the oneclick post thats a 1.6GB file lol will take me a couple of hours to download.
But if you insist I will do it. I do believe in starting clean is always a good idea too.
Cronus89 said:
Ah darn... From the oneclick post thats a 1.6GB file lol will take me a couple of hours to download.
But if you insist I will do it. I do believe in starting clean is always a good idea too.
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There are other mirrors for the MDL file, you just have to look. Let me see if I can find one.
Try the one in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2563533
The one I suggest isn't recommended apparently. You can try it, but I don't know. Apparently that site isn't good for stock roms. I don't know.
Alright im just downloading the one from the oneclick post, it seems to be downloading fine so i will stick with that for now.
So everything will work fine correct? Including the IR Blaster? I do love remote controlling my TV!
I use samsungs watch on app
Cronus89 said:
Alright im just downloading the one from the oneclick post, it seems to be downloading fine so i will stick with that for now.
So everything will work fine correct? Including the IR Blaster? I do love remote controlling my TV!
I use samsungs watch on app
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That I can confirm. I am using GoldenEye and love my remote
Did you successfully restore stock MDL and use that tool I provide you with? Hopefully everything went well.
Yes everything is fine.
That file they had was I think the orginal stock so not MDL but worked fine.
Its been working great, although the Messaging app and Contacts background is completely black.
on the stock S4 it wasnt... i cant for the life of me remember what it looked like, But I have been looking for a way to change it and there doesnt seem to be (I thought it was a phone setting, like light to dark, vice versa)
So far thats the only complaint, pretty big one too, cause i dont like solid black lol
Cronus89 said:
Yes everything is fine.
That file they had was I think the orginal stock so not MDL but worked fine.
Its been working great, although the Messaging app and Contacts background is completely black.
on the stock S4 it wasnt... i cant for the life of me remember what it looked like, But I have been looking for a way to change it and there doesnt seem to be (I thought it was a phone setting, like light to dark, vice versa)
So far thats the only complaint, pretty big one too, cause i dont like solid black lol
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Oh so you flashed the ADMB firmware? Yeah, loki works with that too. Buy boy is that firmware terrible. So have you loaded GoldenEye up yet?
Of course, Been loaded since last night
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Of course, Been loaded since last night
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See??? Wasn't it worth it? Hopefully all your features are there? I also recommending flashing the volume mod he lists.
Sorry for this question but I need to confirm my suspicion...The only way to get custom roms right now is with MDL (actually the one I have). Once you go MF3, MJ6,MJ9 or MK2 there is no way to go back??

Is lollipop worth it?

Hey guys!
Im a noob when it comes to installing ROMs and crap like that into phones (never done it), so even after looking at alot of threads about lollipop on s4 im wondering. Is it worth the time and effort i need to go through to get it because im running an unlocked version so i cant get updates from at&t. Chances of bricking? Oh and i was wondering do i need a sd card to do all of this? Can i do this from my phones internal storage?
Many thanks in advance.
TheJuli said:
Hey guys!
Im a noob when it comes to installing ROMs and crap like that into phones (never done it), so even after looking at alot of threads about lollipop on s4 im wondering. Is it worth the time and effort i need to go through to get it because im running an unlocked version so i cant get updates from at&t. Chances of bricking? Oh and i was wondering do i need a sd card to do all of this? Can i do this from my phones internal storage?
Many thanks in advance.
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What system version are you currently on? Check your baseband in the About section of your settings. Depending on which it is, the process is different, but you can do it from internal storage either way.
DeadlySin9 said:
What system version are you currently on? Check your baseband in the About section of your settings. Depending on which it is, the process is different, but you can do it from internal storage either way.
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Im on 4.4.2 1337UCUFNB1 atm and rooted using towelroot.
Still, is lollipop worth the effort to update from this?
If yes how do i go on about doing it so the chances of bricking are low? (I just got the phone and paranoid )
The tutorials ive seen gave some terminology im not up to par with it :/
Thank you for the help!
Is anyone there willing to help?
Pliz.
TheJuli said:
Im on 4.4.2 1337UCUFNB1 atm and rooted using towelroot.
Still, is lollipop worth the effort to update from this?
If yes how do i go on about doing it so the chances of bricking are low? (I just got the phone and paranoid )
The tutorials ive seen gave some terminology im not up to par with it :/
Thank you for the help!
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It's mostly personal preference, but if you're already rooted then it's not very difficult to do. If you want to just use stock Lollipop with root it's as simple as install Safestrap, flash the OC4 ROM, and flash the kernel. I can get you links for that if you want. If you want a custom ROM, you'll have to also flash the SuperSU Beta file and the correct modules for either the OC3 or OC4 kernel, which isn't difficult. I can get you links if you want to go ahead with either of those, if you want a custom ROM though you'll have to pick one out yourself.
DeadlySin9 said:
It's mostly personal preference, but if you're already rooted then it's not very difficult to do. If you want to just use stock Lollipop with root it's as simple as install Safestrap, flash the OC4 ROM, and flash the kernel. I can get you links for that if you want. If you want a custom ROM, you'll have to also flash the SuperSU Beta file and the correct modules for either the OC3 or OC4 kernel, which isn't difficult. I can get you links if you want to go ahead with either of those, if you want a custom ROM though you'll have to pick one out yourself.
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The stock lollipop please or just any lollipop that won't give me trouble like camera or bluetooth not working! So how do i do all what you mentioned there? Thanks a ton btw!
DeadlySin9 said:
It's mostly personal preference, but if you're already rooted then it's not very difficult to do. If you want to just use stock Lollipop with root it's as simple as install Safestrap, flash the OC4 ROM, and flash the kernel. I can get you links for that if you want. If you want a custom ROM, you'll have to also flash the SuperSU Beta file and the correct modules for either the OC3 or OC4 kernel, which isn't difficult. I can get you links if you want to go ahead with either of those, if you want a custom ROM though you'll have to pick one out yourself.
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I ran into this => http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-to-update-to-i337oc3-5-0-1-keeproot-t3075814
Will it do the job for me? Seems easier than what you described - But i still dont get step number 7. How do i do that Odin's PDA/AP thing?
If you dont wanna be bothered with what i just asked, continue with your own method, if its safer.
Sooo, umm anyone else there in the community, knows how to do this and walk me through?
Pliz.
TheJuli said:
I ran into this => http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-to-update-to-i337oc3-5-0-1-keeproot-t3075814
Will it do the job for me? Seems easier than what you described - But i still dont get step number 7. How do i do that Odin's PDA/AP thing?
If you dont wanna be bothered with what i just asked, continue with your own method, if its safer.
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TheJuli said:
Sooo, umm anyone else there in the community, knows how to do this and walk me through?
Pliz.
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muniz_ri's thread that you linked is the preferred method for someone in your situation to accomplish what you want to do. The instructions are all there. Read through the instructions several times until it makes sense to you. If there is something you don't understand, ask specific questions. It is better (for you) if we don't hold your hand and walk you through everything, because you will learn more if you do it yourself.
Regarding: "Is it worth it?"
It's personal preference. I find the ui improvements in 5.0.1 not great...they are minor or in some cases they seem like down grades.
But I do find the phone noticeably snappier and faster in most tasks. I've had no glitches or fc in the week since I upgraded (I think most of the people complaining about problems about 5.0.1 took the ota without doing a reset) And you'll have the latest security updates also.
If you do upgrade, you have choice of odexed stock or deodexed stock. I'd recommend deodexed if you think you might want to use xposed in the future.
Installed it
In my experience 5.0.1, with its huge constant 1GB Ram usage (without apps or bloatware running and grenify too), was pretty meh. The design of things looks good and all but i personaly think that kitkat did it better RAM wise (Constantly on 500MB), and for that reason, I switched back. I did not experince any snappier or faster performance but i would say it was the same. All in all, if you want flashy and a good looking android phone without loss of performance, but only 800MB free RAM, go for it.
The only thing i learnt from all of this was, how android stuff actually works. So much searching of things lead me to learning more and more. Never had i ever used odin or flashed any firmware. This whole proccess went with some fright within me, but as long as you follow the steps correctly, there is nothing you should be afraid of.

About COJ5 locked bootloader and Samsung policies.

Hi,
myself, being one happy Note 4 user, felt betrayed when Samsung locked the bootloader since COJ5 for Exynos variants, dunno about Qualcomm but I presume it's the same. Past this point we can't go back to whichever official (or custom for that matter) ROM, rendering our choices nonexistant. As far as I am concerned, we possess the phone thus we can do whatever we want, heck, I've paid a great sum of € for it! But samsung now says no-no. What gives? It isn't against the EULA afaik, and we have a crippled device now
Thoughts?
is the COK1 bootloader also locked ?
slit said:
Hi,
myself, being one happy Note 4 user, felt betrayed when Samsung locked the bootloader since COJ5 for Exynos variants, dunno about Qualcomm but I presume it's the same. Past this point we can't go back to whichever official (or custom for that matter) ROM, rendering our choices nonexistant. As far as I am concerned, we possess the phone thus we can do whatever we want, heck, I've paid a great sum of € for it! But samsung now says no-no. What gives? It isn't against the EULA afaik, and we have a crippled device now
Thoughts?
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How is it crippled besides the ability to go back ?
You can root, flash kernels, flash deodex stock ROMs. and custom ROMs ? What else is there? I don't understand.
I've tried both the COL2 and COL1 recent releases on Sammobile and while I can't revert back to an earlier firmware it has affected nothing in customizing my phone.
Yeah it sucks not being able to go back. It could suck a lot more.
Hey, thanks for replying!
dicksteele said:
How is it crippled besides the ability to go back ?
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Yeah, maybe I've got a little bit reactionary there, but
dicksteele said:
You can root, flash kernels, flash deodex stock ROMs. and custom ROMs ? What else is there? I don't understand.
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Well, for one I can't go back to Kit Kat, which was a completely different beast altogether...
dicksteele said:
I've tried both the COL2 and COL1 recent releases on Sammobile and while I can't revert back to an earlier firmware it has affected nothing in customizing my phone.
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I can't install viper4android (which I could with custom roms under the same bootloader but got into many other problems like cut-out audio for phone calls and 92% stuck battery when charging)
dicksteele said:
Yeah it sucks not being able to go back. It could suck a lot more.
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It does, and as I said maybe I was a bit over the top, but I'm expecting someone to crack this useless feature. What's the point anyways?
slit said:
Hey, thanks for replying!
Yeah, maybe I've got a little bit reactionary there, but
Well, for one I can't go back to Kit Kat, which was a completely different beast altogether...
I can't install viper4android (which I could with custom roms under the same bootloader but got into many other problems like cut-out audio for phone calls and 92% stuck battery when charging)
It does, and as I said maybe I was a bit over the top, but I'm expecting someone to crack this useless feature. What's the point anyways?
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I found this is a good base here for the N910C
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/development/rom-note-4-mod-t3244665
Flash TWRP via ODIN. Root and custom kernel via TWRP, then make a backup.
I haven't messed with Viper in a while. Been trying the other audio mods.
I'll see what I can find. I've got a COL2 deodex ROM built. Messing with other tweaks.
I've messed with a v4a mod and finally got it working on stock COJ5 with root. Now everything's working fine and savvy. Thanks for the assistance though!

"New" comer here, I need some help please

Hey guys, I have been out of the android world for a couple of years, I would appreciate some guidance.
I I'm currently living in US
T-mobil
Model number: SM-G935T
Android version: 6.0.1
Updated right now
So my question is, since I don't have any backup or anything, can someone provide me with the steps to get me started? Like what post to root it on this specific carrier and how everything? please
Thanks
Arturofm2 said:
Hey guys, I have been out of the android world for a couple of years, I would appreciate some guidance.
I I'm currently living in US
T-mobil
Model number: SM-G935T
Android version: 6.0.1
Updated right now
So my question is, since I don't have any backup or anything, can someone provide me with the steps to get me started? Like what post to root it on this specific carrier and how everything? please
Thanks
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Of course we can get your started but see
But first you must answer us these question three.
Why do you want root?
Do you have a computer? (This is a must for root.)
Are you ready to be disappointed?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/how-to/how-to-root-s7-edge-t3410470
follow this (use odin to flash rooted kernel) ......you should search before posting things like this.....google is your friend bro.
GOOD LUCK - BTW use flash fire app in play store to make backups and flash roms
Okay okay.
A quick glance at T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion would have led you to the "How to root the S7 EDGE" thread.
I'd take a look in there if I were you.
Binary100100 said:
Of course we can get your started but see
But first you must answer us these question three.
Why do you want root?
Do you have a computer? (This is a must for root.)
Are you ready to be disappointed?
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Well while I was waiting I just rooted it. So what do you think that would be the next step towards installing a rom? To answer your survey questions :laugh: :
1- Because a phone without being rooted is like a bird without wins.
2- I do
3- Oh well... tell me more
Arturofm2 said:
Well while I was waiting I just rooted it. So what do you think that would be the next step towards installing a rom? To answer your survey questions :laugh: :
1- Because a phone without being rooted is like a bird without wins.
2- I do
3- Oh well... tell me more
EDIT: I just checked and the root didn't go through... even though ODIN said it was successful
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Well then.
Rooting the phone (as I'm sure you had already found out) was fairly easy.
BUT... since we do not have an unlocked bootloader then we cannot have any custom recovery. Which means we can only (for now) use adb and Fireflash to flash any custom firmwares. And while we're on the subject of that... there is only one custom rom. Well... technically there are two but only one for you since you updated to the latest firmware.
Echoe ROM which was updated (ummm...) September 9th (not including the Verizon version which might work but with no promises)
Tekxv2 which was updated back in July. Unfortunately, that is flashed by adb (computer required) and only supports G935TUVS3APD8 which is... pretty old.
Things that you may notice with root.
Battery life may be shorter.
Strange icons on your status bar.
Might start to have random reboots for absolutely no reason.
Can't use Samsung Pay and some other apps.
Phone might be laggy.
Phone might feel hot.
Some of those can be resolved by flashing the only custom rom that we have (Echoe ROM... which is a rather nice rom) but it's not "there" yet.
Or you can use the guide in my signature to resolve issues like the lag and the strange icons. Yet even after the "fix" you might still experience both again from time to time.
You might even have the IMS force close issue which I used to get about once a month. It would piss me off because no sooner that you click the button, it'll pop up again and you don't have time to do anything. You're pretty much forced to reflash stock, wipe, re-root, restore a latest backup... which can take hours and is rather inconvenient if it happens to you while you're at work like it always seemed to happen for me.
SO...
All in all... root is okay. It's better than nothing I suppose. But until we get more developer support for this phone then in my opinion it's kinda pointless in my opinion.
Too many drawbacks. I eventually unrooted two weeks ago and I love my phone now. I'm using the heck out of Samsung Pay especially since their promotions are pretty nice right now! Plus a few members are testing the Nouget update which probably won't be getting root at all since rooting requires an engineering kernel which we don't have and might not get. Or an unlocked bootloader which we've pretty much given up on.
A lot of members that are testing the Nouget beta firmware are extremely satisfied with it so if we can't root Nouget then having a rooted S7 will probably fade away as more people update to Android 7+. That's where I see this going anyway.
Binary100100 said:
What you wrote above
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So for what I understood the dev support for this phone is very limited... I know the issues I may encounter, I had them with the galaxy note. but any way... If something I'll unroot it but I want to try it out Thank for you time. I've rooted it.
EDIT: Damn... I really don't like the visual style of Echoe... is that one the only one I can flash??
Binary100100 said:
Well then.
Rooting the phone (as I'm sure you had already found out) was fairly easy.
BUT... since we do not have an unlocked bootloader then we cannot have any custom recovery. Which means we can only (for now) use adb and Fireflash to flash any custom firmwares. And while we're on the subject of that... there is only one custom rom. Well... technically there are two but only one for you since you updated to the latest firmware.
Echoe ROM which was updated (ummm...) September 9th (not including the Verizon version which might work but with no promises)
Tekxv2 which was updated back in July. Unfortunately, that is flashed by adb (computer required) and only supports G935TUVS3APD8 which is... pretty old.
Things that you may notice with root.
Battery life may be shorter.
Strange icons on your status bar.
Might start to have random reboots for absolutely no reason.
Can't use Samsung Pay and some other apps.
Phone might be laggy.
Phone might feel hot.
Some of those can be resolved by flashing the only custom rom that we have (Echoe ROM... which is a rather nice rom) but it's not "there" yet.
Or you can use the guide in my signature to resolve issues like the lag and the strange icons. Yet even after the "fix" you might still experience both again from time to time.
You might even have the IMS force close issue which I used to get about once a month. It would piss me off because no sooner that you click the button, it'll pop up again and you don't have time to do anything. You're pretty much forced to reflash stock, wipe, re-root, restore a latest backup... which can take hours and is rather inconvenient if it happens to you while you're at work like it always seemed to happen for me.
SO...
All in all... root is okay. It's better than nothing I suppose. But until we get more developer support for this phone then in my opinion it's kinda pointless in my opinion.
Too many drawbacks. I eventually unrooted two weeks ago and I love my phone now. I'm using the heck out of Samsung Pay especially since their promotions are pretty nice right now! Plus a few members are testing the Nouget update which probably won't be getting root at all since rooting requires an engineering kernel which we don't have and might not get. Or an unlocked bootloader which we've pretty much given up on.
A lot of members that are testing the Nouget beta firmware are extremely satisfied with it so if we can't root Nouget then having a rooted S7 will probably fade away as more people update to Android 7+. That's where I see this going anyway.
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How are you doing with the ads? Like youtube, pandora, spotify? I just installed xposed and the phone feels very hot, and If I unroot it (which I'm thinking to do) I won't be able to get things without ads (I know about vpns and browsers). Also how can I install teaks for apps? Installing apks from pages that promise you this and you have to log in is very untruthful. Any suggestions to all this?
Arturofm2 said:
How are you doing with the ads? Like youtube, pandora, spotify? I just installed xposed and the phone feels very hot, and If I unroot it (which I'm thinking to do) I won't be able to get things without ads (I know about vpns and browsers). Also how can I install teaks for apps? Installing apks from pages that promise you this and you have to log in is very untruthful. Any suggestions to all this?
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I just put up with them.
In all reality, I don't use my phone for the purposes that require my viewing of ads to begin with.
Sure when I was rooted I had adblocker. But honestly, I had completely forgotten all about that benefit of being rooted until now.
I suppose if you absolutely need to be rid of ads then by all means, retain root. However ads don't effect my daily use one bit.
Binary100100 said:
I just put up with them.
In all reality, I don't use my phone for the purposes that require my viewing of ads to begin with.
Sure when I was rooted I had adblocker. But honestly, I had completely forgotten all about that benefit of being rooted until now.
I suppose if you absolutely need to be rid of ads then by all means, retain root. However ads don't effect my daily use one bit.
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Could you help me unroot it? I was following a guide here to unroot it and downloaded the firmware but when I click flash, it didn't work, I'm having travel reverting it, can you help me? The model is: SM-G935T
Arturofm2 said:
Could you help me unroot it? I was following a guide here to unroot it and downloaded the firmware but when I click flash, it didn't work, I'm having travel reverting it, can you help me? The model is: SM-G935T
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I just flash the appropriate firmware that you had prior to rooting with ODIN.
Never had any issues. Which "guide" are you referring to?
Binary100100 said:
I just flash the appropriate firmware that you had prior to rooting with ODIN.
Never had any issues. Which "guide" are you referring to?
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bro now I'm friking out, I followed this guide and when I click in flash it says Fail. I followed it step by step, I don't don't what's going on and when I reset the phone it says custom and doesn't even load, so tmobil would know that I rooted it...
fff.... can you give me the link, guide, whatever you used to revert it?
Arturofm2 said:
bro now I'm friking out, I followed this guide and when I click in flash it says Fail. I followed it step by step, I don't don't what's going on and when I reset the phone it says custom and doesn't even load, so tmobil would know that I rooted it...
fff.... can you give me the link, guide, whatever you used to revert it?
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You're probably trying to flash a firmware with a V3 bootloader over G935TTMB4APK1.
If you were seriously following that (outdated) guide step by step then you tried flashing TMB_G935TUVU3APG1.zip over a PK1 firmware. Yeah... that doesn't work.
Download the latest firmware from sammmobile.
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-G935T/
Try it again.
IF that doesn't work... try using Smart Switch.
I haven't done it before but I think it's the Emergency Software Recovery and Initialization.
forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/how-to/odin-apk1-tmobile-tmbg935ttmb4apk1-t3494724
Odin this to return to stock firmware.
Binary100100 said:
You're probably trying to flash a firmware with a V3 bootloader over G935TTMB4APK1.
If you were seriously following that (outdated) guide step by step then you tried flashing TMB_G935TUVU3APG1.zip over a PK1 firmware. Yeah... that doesn't work.
Download the latest firmware from sammobile.
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-G935T/
Try it again.
IF that doesn't work... try using Smart Switch.
I haven't done it before but I think it's the Emergency Software Recovery and Initialization.
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You have no idea the help you gave me. I went to sammobil before but since it said that the download speed was too slow, I didn't do it through that page. Now I did it and it's working fine thanks bro.
But when I start it, it says: custom in the log in, how can I totally put it original?
tduquefjc said:
forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/how-to/odin-apk1-tmobile-tmbg935ttmb4apk1-t3494724
Odin this to return to stock firmware.
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If I want to remove everything and just leave it plain how it comes from factory when you buy it, do I just flash the AP file?
Arturofm2 said:
You have no idea the help you gave me. I went to sammobil before but since it said that the download speed was too slow, I kept it. Now I did it and it's working fine thanks bro.
But when I start it, it says: custom in the log in, how can I totally put it original?
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Arturofm2 said:
If I want to remove everything and just leave it plain how it comes from factory when you buy it, do I just flash the AP file?
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You should flash everything.
BL= Bootloader (which should be V4 since you updated to the latest firmware already. Anything less than V4 will fail.)
AP= Is for System, Cache, kernel, etc.
CP= Is for modems
CSC is for your HOME_CSC_TMB_G935TTMB4APK1_CL9507190_QB11413830_REV02_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5 file.
Important! If you use the CSC_TMB_G935TTMB4APK1_CL9507190_QB11413830_REV02_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5 (doesn't have the word "HOME" in the name) then it'll wipe your phone!
If your phone still says "CUSTOM" on it then make sure that reboot and check again. If it still says custom then make sure that you don't still have the engineering kernel. Re-flash the AP files again if so. It shouldn't though if it's 100% stock. Also note if you saw the unlocked padlock on the S7 Edge splash screen (before the bootanimation).
Good luck and happy New Year.
Binary100100 said:
You should flash everything.
BL= Bootloader (which should be V4 since you updated to the latest firmware already. Anything less than V4 will fail.)
AP= Is for System, Cache, kernel, etc.
CP= Is for modems
CSC is for your HOME_CSC_TMB_G935TTMB4APK1_CL9507190_QB11413830_REV02_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5 file.
Important! If you use the CSC_TMB_G935TTMB4APK1_CL9507190_QB11413830_REV02_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5 (doesn't have the word "HOME" in the name) then it'll wipe your phone!
If your phone still says "CUSTOM" on it then make sure that reboot and check again. If it still says custom then make sure that you don't still have the engineering kernel. Re-flash the AP files again if so. It shouldn't though if it's 100% stock. Also note if you saw the unlocked padlock on the S7 Edge splash screen (before the bootanimation).
Good luck and happy New Year.
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Perfect! All I did was reboot it, and the unlocked padlock went away, thank you very much for all your help! Happy new year!

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