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[Q] Is the RAZR M SIM Unlocked From The Factory?

Most of Verizon's world phones are SIM locked, and you either have to get it unlocked, or use Verizon's SIM card. I figured it would be the same for this phone. However, I read somewhere that the pre-release version is unlocked out of the box. I'm guessing by pre-release, they mean the one that was given to the press at the launch event.
Anybody know if all the Ms are unlocked from the factory? Specifically, what I'm after is to find out if they can be used on AT&T or T-Mobile in the US without any modifications. The earlier Motorola world phones needed modifications to do so, but it's worth a shot to see if this maybe is different. Just being generally unlocked saves a step, too, but if someone can provide the information on whether it is unlocked for US bands, that would be great.

I can confirm it does not allow calls using a US T-Mobile SIM. It does show the voicemail indicator and my t-mo # correctly in settings, but I think its just reading that from the SIM card itself.
Doesn't verizon unlock after 90 days good standing? I know for iPhones they do. Might be something I'll try in a few months.
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olm3ca said:
I can confirm it does not allow calls using a US T-Mobile SIM. It does show the voicemail indicator and my t-mo # correctly in settings, but I think its just reading that from the SIM card itself.
Doesn't verizon unlock after 90 days good standing? I know for iPhones they do. Might be something I'll try in a few months.
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Thanks for the info! I'm not sure if that is the typical behavior or not. I forgot what my Droid Pro did before I unlocked it.
Verizon usually does unlock it if you've been a customer for more than 90 days. They still won't let you use the US networks, though...just international ones. Hopefully P3Droid and his team will work their magic on this one. I know he already ordered a Dev Edition of the M.

freak4dell said:
Thanks for the info! I'm not sure if that is the typical behavior or not. I forgot what my Droid Pro did before I unlocked it.
Verizon usually does unlock it if you've been a customer for more than 90 days. They still won't let you use the US networks, though...just international ones. Hopefully P3Droid and his team will work their magic on this one. I know he already ordered a Dev Edition of the M.
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It sounds like it is SIM unlocked since it's reading from the T-Mobile SIM at all. I believe all the Razr & Razr Maxx officially come as SIM unlocked from the factory, so I would guess the Razr M would too. It still has the network block for US GSM networks, but that's different than the SIM card.
I'm interested in getting the Razr M to replace my Droid Pro, so if anyone could confirm, that would be great!

celticjon said:
It sounds like it is SIM unlocked since it's reading from the T-Mobile SIM at all. I believe all the Razr & Razr Maxx officially come as SIM unlocked from the factory, so I would guess the Razr M would too. It still has the network block for US GSM networks, but that's different than the SIM card.
I'm interested in getting the Razr M to replace my Droid Pro, so if anyone could confirm, that would be great!
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That could be, and maybe it's just Verizon's policy these days, considering the iPhone 5 ships unlocked (and the iP5 has no US band lock, either). Hopefully someone can try it with an international SIM when they travel and let us know.

Now that a few people have gotten the Dev version in their hands, any differences on that one as far as the SIM unlock goes? Since Verizon doesn't sell that directly, maybe Motorola left the US bands unlocked on that one.

Is The RAZR M SIM Unlocked From The Factory?
Is there anything new on this?

Sim is Unlocked, it will read any sim but US-Sim seem to be Radio Locked.
Which u can bypass by an Aussie Radio. And then u can use it on T-Mobile or AT&T
I will be able to verify in 1-2 weeks if it will work on an International Sim with out any modification.
Sending my GirlFriend her Razr M to Germany so she can test it on O2.

Yeah, it's unlocked, and you can use it on T-Mobile and AT&T with the Australian radio, but nobody has been able to consistently get 3G on either carrier.

Does anybody test the phone outside of the U.S?

Any word?
Germanese said:
Sim is Unlocked, it will read any sim but US-Sim seem to be Radio Locked.
Which u can bypass by an Aussie Radio. And then u can use it on T-Mobile or AT&T
I will be able to verify in 1-2 weeks if it will work on an International Sim with out any modification.
Sending my GirlFriend her Razr M to Germany so she can test it on O2.
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Any word from Germany?

Works fine in Germany 3G is active but we cant get passed the .5mb/s mark in speed but she is also in a rural area at the moment for Christmas.
Where O2 doesn't have alot of towers.

Yes sim is factory unlocked. 4G works in Mexico
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I can confim that the razr m is sim unlocked for international use out of the box no modification required. My sister uses one on koodo mobile (canadian service provider) with her koodo sim. When she comes back to the states she pops in the american sim it came with and uses on my verizon plan.
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areayetee said:
I can confim that the razr m is sim unlocked for international use out of the box no modification required. My sister uses one on koodo mobile (canadian service provider) with her koodo sim. When she comes back to the states she pops in the american sim it came with and uses on my verizon plan.
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+1
Works great on Rogers here in Canada minus the lte of course.

does everything work?
Does call, text, picture messaging, and web all work internationally?

liongood9 said:
Does call, text, picture messaging, and web all work internationally?
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Yes, EVERYTHING works.

Did anyone use it on 900 and 1800 radio?
TIA.

sasikanth8 said:
Did anyone use it on 900 and 1800 radio?
TIA.
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I can confirm that everything works internationally, tried in Italy and Singapore. Also, the network in italy was on the 900 frequency band, so that works for sure, haven't tested 1800 but I don't see why it wouldn't work.

Does it mean that all models of razr m are factory unlocked? I know there are 3 versions of razr m XT905, XT907 and XT902. Just wonder if I can unlock my XT902.

Can the US Cellular Galaxy S4 be used on GSM carriers?

For some reason, most of the cheaper Galaxy S4's for sale on eBay are from US Cellular. Can those be unlocked for use on GSM carriers such as AT&T?
Thanks

Zoide_ said:
For some reason, most of the cheaper Galaxy S4's for sale on eBay are from US Cellular. Can those be unlocked for use on GSM carriers such as AT&T?
Thanks
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I dont think it will be possible :crying:

Zoide_ said:
For some reason, most of the cheaper Galaxy S4's for sale on eBay are from US Cellular. Can those be unlocked for use on GSM carriers such as AT&T?
Thanks
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Nope. They are CDMA.

KillaHurtz said:
Nope. They are CDMA.
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The verizon s3 had gsm capabilities after some tinkering (I think it involved flashing a different rom), so I was hoping the same might eventually be possible with the us cellular s4. Does anybody know if the us cellular is purely cdma and not possibly a world phone with hidden gsm capabilities?

I have seen a few galaxy S4 listed as I9500 from US Cellular. I asked the sellers about it and they say they don't know. But I9500 is a GSM model and US Cellular is a CDMA carrier.

US Cellular will not work on other carrier
According to this reliable source s4 US Cellular is strictly CDMA, not like Verizon counter part.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S4

HS™ said:
I dont think it will be possible :crying:
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I tryed to put all codes in dial app not even imeis code work..I found one the works..##366633# is restricting me to a dm enable disable mode any ideas what is it?

tsoupa said:
I tryed to put all codes in dial app not even imeis code work..I found one the works..##366633# is restricting me to a dm enable disable mode any ideas what is it?
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Developer Mode

I know, this is an old thread but I like the old phones.
I can confirm that a US Cellular Samsung S4 Model SCH-R970 can make calls and do SMS on a GSM carrier (Verizon) in my case. My problem is 4G data isn't working, yet. Edit: I am able to get 3G data going, but 4G is not.
I recently picked up a cheap but perfectly good US Cellular S4 and was able to use my Verizon SIM to make calls and SMS. It appears that the phone is only set to CDMA so data with Verizon isn't active at this moment (I am using wifi). The trick to getting the voice and text working was letting the phone go through 5-6 system updates over the course of 5-6 hours yesterday over wi-fi. After the last one, the phone "unlocked" from US Cellular** and let me use my Verizon sim to make calls and send text.
**This falls in line with what it says here uscellular dot com:
"4G LTE Devices
All 4G LTE devices launched by U.S. Cellular on or after February 1, 2016 are sold unlocked. Select 4G LTE devices (listed below) that were launched before February 1, 2016 are unlocked by installing the latest software update. Please refer to the Software Updates page to find the latest software version available for these devices and for instructions on how to download the latest software update."
ref: www uscellular dot com/site/legal/mobile-wireless-device-unlocking.html
I always liked my S4 so when my S5 broke (dead screen) I picked up an S4 cheap. I can't stomach paying $200-800 for a new or ussed S5-S8 phone.
Does anyone know how to add the GSM settings into the phone so I can select that as my data network?? Currently the phone only displays CDMA/LTE as the choices.

mergs! said:
I know, this is an old thread but I like the old phones.
I can confirm that a USCC Samsung S4 can make calls and do SMS on a GSM carrier (Verizon) in my case. My problem is 4G data isn't working, yet.
I recently picked up a cheap but perfectly good US Cellular S4 and was able to use my Verizon SIM to make calls and SMS. It appears that the phone is only set to CDMA so data with Verizon isn't active at this moment (I am using wifi). The trick to getting the voice and text working was letting the phone go through 5-6 system updates over the course of 5-6 hours yesterday over wi-fi. After the last one, the phone "unlocked" from US Cellular** and let me use my Verizon sim to make calls and send text.
**This falls in line with what it says here uscellular dot com:
"4G LTE Devices
All 4G LTE devices launched by U.S. Cellular on or after February 1, 2016 are sold unlocked. Select 4G LTE devices (listed below) that were launched before February 1, 2016 are unlocked by installing the latest software update. Please refer to the Software Updates page to find the latest software version available for these devices and for instructions on how to download the latest software update."
ref: www uscellular dot com/site/legal/mobile-wireless-device-unlocking.html
I always liked my S4 so when my S5 broke (dead screen) I picked up an S4 cheap. I can't stomach paying $200-800 for a new or ussed S5-S8 phone.
Does anyone know how to add the GSM settings into the phone so I can select that as my data network?? Currently the phone only displays CDMA/LTE as the choices.
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Verizon is a CDMA/LTE carrier.

dennis5pia said:
Verizon is a CDMA/LTE carrier.
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Ah, OK then I stand corrected. Perhaps I am running a fool's errand here (trying to get GSM going).
Let me update the situation: my current status is that 3G data is working on the SCH-R970 US Cellular phone (with a Verizon sim) but 4G never kicks in. Maybe I just need to visit a Verizon store.

mergs! said:
Ah, OK then I stand corrected. Perhaps I am running a fool's errand here (trying to get GSM going).
Let me update the situation: my current status is that 3G data is working on the SCH-R970 US Cellular phone (with a Verizon sim) but 4G never kicks in. Maybe I just need to visit a Verizon store.
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Did you add the Verizon LTE APN?

dennis5pia said:
Did you add the Verizon LTE APN?
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Yep, thanks. I attempted to do that. But I don't believe I the setting took hold.
Details: I used "Offline SIM APN" tool (from Play Store), and manually entered the settings that I found online for Verizon. The Os is now 5.0.1 and the tool says it can no longer add the APN automatically on Android v4.0 or higher, so I did it manually. It appears to be in the phone but I don't know how to activate it on the phone.

mergs! said:
Yep, thanks. I attempted to do that. But I don't believe I the setting took hold.
Details: I used "Offline SIM APN" tool (from Play Store), and manually entered the settings that I found online for Verizon. The Os is now 5.0.1 and the tool says it can no longer add the APN automatically on Android v4.0 or higher, so I did it manually. It appears to be in the phone but I don't know how to activate it on the phone.
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I managed to add APN in an old phone a few years ago by editing the build.pro file, but you need to be rooted in order to do that.

[Q] Putting D801(tmous) variant on ATT?

So I was looking over the difference between D800 (ATT) and D801 (TMOUS) and it seems that the reception difference is D800 has an LTE band 5 and the D801 has an 3G band of 1700. Whats the practical difference in reception? Seems like att is starting to grow band 5, and 1700 is tmobile. I travel to some remote areas and I think tmobile works there and att struggles (not sure at least it did 2 years ago), but do like the idea of freely switching between the two without having a tradeoff. will probably start with straight talk for att but will switch to the tmous if i cant get service where i move.
Please share thoughts on the best strategy...
thank you

Trying to get an answer on this also
Hi.
I've been trying to get an answer to this also, my post received no answers
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2506590
From my own, uninformed research I think we will be fine taking the T-mobile LG G2 (d801) to AT&T.
Looking at the information below taken from Phone Arena, the LTE band 5 isn't in all AT&T LTE phones
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/HTC-One-X-LTE_id7376
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Galaxy-Express-I437_id7515
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Nokia-Lumia-920_id7471
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Nokia-Lumia-925_id7850
Going off of this research I've ordered the D801 but It is possible I can turn out to be wrong.

This explains it more
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...y-compatible-with-atts-lte-and-hspa-networks/

I'm currently using the Tmobile version on ATT and haven't had any issues so far. The only problem I'm having is it appears there is substantially less support for the Tmobile version.

snobrdr2324 said:
I'm currently using the Tmobile version on ATT and haven't had any issues so far. The only problem I'm having is it appears there is substantially less support for the Tmobile version.
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Thx for the confirmation

snobrdr2324 said:
I'm currently using the Tmobile version on ATT and haven't had any issues so far. The only problem I'm having is it appears there is substantially less support for the Tmobile version.
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The D801 CM maintainer was out of county apparently and I'm guessing he held off on uploading everything since he's been gone for a couple weeks and didn't want to push something that would be broken for weeks by chance. We'll start seeing a good bit of roms in the coming weeks and by everything moving to KitKat we'll be in as good of shape as any other device since our devices are plenty similar to each other.

LG G2 d801 (t-mobile) with AT&T straight talk activation help...
I just tried to activate my factory unlocked lg g2 d801 with straight talk with at&t. I set my APN up for the at&t network and used the at&t sim card that came with the straight talk bundle. Now on the lock screen it says invalid SIM card.
What do I have to do to make my phone work? Thanks in advance!

I borked phone flashing a T Mobile based ROM on my canadian G2 (since they both are the D801; by personal research I've observed the D803 works as intended on my canadian D801). I will try later today to flash yet again another T Mo rom on it, but this time I'll flash back the stock kernel. I'll report back.
Just to play it safe, I'd reflash your stock kernel... that way it won't act funny all of a sudden along the way.

omegajester said:
I borked phone flashing a T Mobile based ROM on my canadian G2 (since they both are the D801; by personal research I've observed the D803 works as intended on my canadian D801). I will try later today to flash yet again another T Mo rom on it, but this time I'll flash back the stock kernel. I'll report back.
Just to play it safe, I'd reflash your stock rom... that way it won't act funny all of a sudden.
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I borked phone flashing a T Mobile based ROM on my canadian G2 (since they both are the D801; by personal research I've observed the D803 works as intended on my canadian D801). I will try later today to flash yet again another T Mo rom on it, but this time I'll flash back the stock kernel. I'll report back.
Just to play it safe, I'd reflash your stock kernel... that way it won't act funny all of a sudden along the way.
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Thanks, but I haven't rooted my phone and don't really intend to unless I absolutely need to. It's factory unlocked right out of the box.

It turns out Verizon was holding things up. I'm so happy I'm leaving them.
I tried setting up my APN, but now I can't download or view any media or picture texts in messenger or hangouts. Any suggestions?

LTE on AT&T with D801?
I can't seem to find a clear answer on whether it's possible to get LTE indication and speed on a D801 (TMo) used on AT&T.
Tech Support is giving me the "we can't guarantee data speeds on non-AT&T-branded phones".
This thread seems to say a TMo-branded phone (LG G2 in my case) CAN be provisioned for LTE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2506590
Most other threads say no, or there's no conclusion in the thread.
Can anyone give me the straight answer and tell me how to go about it? A way to get past the stone-walling AT&T techs?

I have H2O which uses AT&T's network but only HSPA+ and not LTE but the phone sees AT&T's LTE network when searching for networks.
In this thread there is a screenshot of a T-Mobile phone getting LTE indication on the AT&T network.

diamond12 said:
I have H2O which uses AT&T's network but only HSPA+ and not LTE but the phone sees AT&T's LTE network when searching for networks.
In this thread there is a screenshot of a T-Mobile phone getting LTE indication on the AT&T network.
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Along with a lot of confusion about why his phone was working on LTE. As a relative newb to this stuff I couldn't make any sense of it.
Also in that thread was this comment:
T-Mobile devices support ALL AT&T and T-Mobile bands, except LTE Band 5 (used by AT&T in a few rural areas). What's wrong is AT&T turns off LTE for non-AT&T devices. You have to call them up and give them the IMEI # of an AT&T-branded device (even if it's not yours and even if your SIM isn't in it/you don't plan on using it). They don't check after that.
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So it might be possible to "trick" the carrier into allowing LTE?

Guys, I'm not getting data and sms on my unlocked d801 on at&t. Can anybody share APN settings for at&t that work?
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I got my unlock tmo g2 working on at&t with LTE, mms, and Microsoft exchange email after some effort. It's also connecting to my 3g microcell.
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Sorry for hijacking but anyone moving from D801 to ATT can share their APN Settings. Cant get internet to work to save my life!

AT&T lg g2 using tmobile sim, No 4g/LTE

Hey, I've used xda plenty in the past before but never had to post a question so bear with me.
I bought a att lg g2 and a tmobile sim to go with it. I can only get 3g, no lte. Its very slow. I did some reading and it looks discouraging. I live in south texas.
Is there anyway to turn on the radio bands i need to make 4g/lte work? I saw a thread about how to turn on lte for custom roms. Will that work or not? I think tmobile uses bands 17 19 and 21. There are those bands in the hidden menu on my phone but idk. It looks like some att lg g2s work with tmobile lte and others do not. Thanks for your help.
Ps. Im on another forum where the attitude towards noobs is like xda's so take it easy on me lol.

First thing first, have you rooted, unlocked the phone and bootloader?
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comk4ver said:
First thing first, have you rooted, unlocked the phone and bootloader?
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Yes, its rooted and unlocked for different carriers. Su is installed but not a custom recovery. Im not really interested in installing a custom rom at this point.

From the carrier pages:
AT&T LG G2 has bands 1,2,4,5 & 17
T-Mobile LG G2 has: 2,4,7 & 17
7 is 2600MHz so it's not relevant for the US
I would say it's not a phone capability problem
The T-Mobile LG G2 has a seting in networks for network mode: GSM, WCDMA, GSM+WCDMA, GSM+WCDMA+LTE
The same can be achieved with the Phone Info app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=myc.phone.PhoneInfo
Also make sure you are using the fast.t-mobile.com APN http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2090

That apn you linked above does not work on my phone. I talked to a tmobile rep this morning and thats the one he gave me. When that one didnt work i got referred up the line to a rep that sent me texts with setting patches that supposedly set my phone up like a tmobile one but i didnt get 4g/lte from that and it wasnt the lte apn. I did, however, find another fast.tmobile.com apn with a little bit different settings than the one linked above that gave me 3g. Im at a loss, I guess.

LTE works fine on this phone, I use a D800 on T-Mobile, you just need the LTE APN. That's what I use on mine.
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Im using the apn from this link and no 4g. Just edge. Its a lte apn tutorial. I know i have tmobile lte in my area. Thanks for the help so far tho.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2236735

Do yall think it would be possible to install a tmobile kernel to maybe turn on bands that i need for tmobile lte? Tmobile uses bands 1700 and 2100. In some areas, it looks like, att phones do have tmobile lte .

jordylee18 said:
Do yall think it would be possible to install a tmobile kernel to maybe turn on bands that i need for tmobile lte? Tmobile uses bands 1700 and 2100. In some areas, it looks like, att phones do have tmobile lte .
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Only use D800 kernels on this model.
Transmitted via Geass

Make sure there is a dash in t-mobile in fast.t-mobile.com

Did you ever get this fixed?

Ace42 said:
Only use D800 kernels on this model.
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Thanks for Attached Thumbnails, I changed mine to match, and it works.
But it does take sometime to connect, especially inside house.
I'm running CM11 nightly 12/26.

Piggybacked network

I'm looking to buy a Dev edition Verizon S5. My network is bluegrass cellular which is a small carrier that piggybacks off of the Verizon towers. My question is if I purchase this phone will it work with my network? My net uses Sim cards and I miss the days when putting it in the phone was all it took haha. The phone my network sells specifically is the SM-G900R6 which I'm guessing will have almost 0 Dev support and I seriously miss rooting :crying: and aokp and cyanogenmod ect

Please click here and read post #10.

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Please click here and read post #10.
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Wow sorry I missed that smh thank you for the reply.

xenithxzavier said:
Well I apologize for missing that but I have to ask will this give me full functionality eg 4g and everything? Since this carrier shares Verizon towers and such I thought it should but I'd like to be sure I won't have any issues before I throw money at someone lol. Please excuse my ignorance
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Well, if you have a Bluegrass Phone, and Bluegrass SIM, then I do not see why it wouldn't run the 4G if that is something your carrier offers. If Verizon has the 4G there, and your carrier offers it as an option, then I would think you will be fine.

kprice8 said:
Well, if you have a Bluegrass Phone, and Bluegrass SIM, then I do not see why it wouldn't run the 4G if that is something your carrier offers. If Verizon has the 4G there, and your carrier offers it as an option, then I would think you will be fine.
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Nah I'm saying I'd purchase a Verizon phone and was asking if the 4g would work Verizon phone with bluegrass Sim but I checked the thread over there someones using a tmo Sim and their 4g is fully functional so I'm guessing mine will be fine too. Thanks!

xenithxzavier said:
Nah I'm saying I'd purchase a Verizon phone and was asking if the 4g would work Verizon phone with bluegrass Sim but I checked the thread over there someones using a tmo Sim and their 4g is fully functional so I'm guessing mine will be fine too. Thanks!
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If you need any help with the SM-G900R6 just msg me.
Here is the stock firmware that came on mine
http://www.mediafire.com/download/125u819egun44vc/G900R6WWU2AND7_G900R6LRA2AND7_LRA.zip
And here is the newest update
http://www.mediafire.com/download/vzvp61w4axwaa2r/G900R6WWU2ANF2_G900R6LRA2ANF2_LRA.zip
Both work fine with Odin 3.09