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So I'm guessing no installment plan?

I assume since this is going to be sold through Best Buy, similar to that of the nexus being sold through Google, that we can't get this on an installment plan is that correct?
Or is there a way to put this phone on our bill? I don't mind paying for the phone but it helps to be able to spread the payments out. Maybe I'll see if Best Buy will approve me for finance through them.

Cheeze[iT] said:
I assume since this is going to be sold through Best Buy, similar to that of the nexus being sold through Google, that we can't get this on an installment plan is that correct?
Or is there a way to put this phone on our bill? I don't mind paying for the phone but it helps to be able to spread the payments out. Maybe I'll see if Best Buy will approve me for finance through them.
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if the BestBuy sells T-Mo i believe they will do the installments

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if the BestBuy sells T-Mo i believe they will do the installments
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I thought only t-mobile retail and do installments, thats why radio shack, walmart, etc couldn't

They have a deal that if you make a purchase over $299 there is no interest for 12 months. Thats not bad at all. You have 12 months to pay off $529 if you buy Nexus S at full price.

i'm not even sure if bestbuy even officially sells tmobile phones. Every one I go to sells only att, verizon, and sprint. They don't even offer tmo phones through the official website afaik. I only see tmo prepaid -_-

Cheeze[iT] said:
I assume since this is going to be sold through Best Buy, similar to that of the nexus being sold through Google, that we can't get this on an installment plan is that correct?
Or is there a way to put this phone on our bill? I don't mind paying for the phone but it helps to be able to spread the payments out. Maybe I'll see if Best Buy will approve me for finance through them.
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This is the exact method i'm trying to get the nexus S. It's the ONLY method i'm able to get it right now because I don't have $566 cash. If we can't get it this way, i'm just gonna have to wait a cpl months so I can buy a used one for a cheaper price.

jroid said:
This is the exact method i'm trying to get the nexus S. It's the ONLY method i'm able to get it right now because I don't have $566 cash. If we can't get it this way, i'm just gonna have to wait a cpl months so I can buy a used one for a cheaper price.
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Same here, but I will just finance through Best buy with their card. 12 months with no interest will be enough for me.

[QUOTE='Cheeze[iT]]Same here, but I will just finance through Best buy with their card. 12 months with no interest will be enough for me.[/QUOTE]
Just got it confirmed through Nexus S support that bb's that sell T-Mobile should be able to sell a nexus S with an em+ plan. Problem is actually finding a store that does. Luckily, I've found one in my area
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thepoetvd776 said:
They have a deal that if you make a purchase over $299 there is no interest for 12 months. Thats not bad at all. You have 12 months to pay off $529 if you buy Nexus S at full price.
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You are correct.
Check out Best Buy's Nexus S FAQ for answers to questions like this: http://mobileaccessories.bestbuy.com/samsung-nexus-s-accessories.htm

Selling a Nexus S with an even more + plan does not mean the you will be able to use the T-Mobile Equipment Installment Plan, they are 2 different things.
To the best of my knowledge no 3rd party retailers can access EIP so you would have to do any financing through Best Buy.

best buy is NOT able to do the equipment installment plan. even in Best Buy locations that sell T-Mobile.
youre not purchasing the device from T-mobile when you buy from Best Buy, so why would you slowly be able to pay it off to T-mobile?

cpcrazyfly said:
best buy is NOT able to do the equipment installment plan. even in Best Buy locations that sell T-Mobile.
youre not purchasing the device from T-mobile when you buy from Best Buy, so why would you slowly be able to pay it off to T-mobile?
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There goes my only hope on purchasing the nexus S. I'm glad you answered this though i've been trying to get this figured out before I sell my vibrant. I was told differently from the nexus S support line. I will just hold off selling my phone and go to the location on the 16th to confirm yes/no to make my decision.

In the same boat.. currently trying to sell all kinds of crap on craigslist to come up with the $575 for the phone. I've had about all I can take from this slow ass G1.

A Great Note 8.0 Customer Service Story - AT&T

So last night, I decided to go to an AT&T store to buy an LTE Note 8.0 only to find that the first three of the corporate stores I called didn't have any in stock. Finally, the fourth store I called had two left. So I went over there fully expecting to pay the full unlocked $499 price. To me, it didn't make sense to lock myself in for two years when I'd only save $100 over full retail.
When I walked in, though, I was helped by the store manager. He gets the tablet for me and then goes to look up my account info so he could convert my plan to a MobileShare. He saw that I bought a Galaxy S4 about 40 days ago and, much to my surprise, offered me the smartphone bundle promotion, which meant I could get the tablet on contract for $199. I knew about the promotion but just assumed I wouldn't qualify since I bought the phone before the Note 8.0 even launched.
Needless to say, saving $300 over full retail WAS enough to get me to go contract. There's great customer service and then there's the service I received last night. The manager totally didn't have to do that for me but offered without me even asking. :good:

Awesome! Gratz to hear about your saving. Att never did me wrong, even when they rep accidentally took away my unlimited data, I just call customer service and they just me back on unlimited data.

I had a similar experience. I purchased an S4 but the Note 8 available when I purchased it. When it was to be released by AT&T my AT&T Sales person called me to let me know it would be available on the morrow and they had 5 in the store and further that even though I had purchased my S4 16 days previous AT&T would give me the promo bundle price of $199.00. That is stellar service in my opinion.
Bruce

cataloochee said:
I had a similar experience. I purchased an S4 but the Note 8 available when I purchased it. When it was to be released by AT&T my AT&T Sales person called me to let me know it would be available on the morrow and they had 5 in the store and further that even though I had purchased my S4 16 days previous AT&T would give me the promo bundle price of $199.00. That is stellar service in my opinion.
Bruce
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lol. Dealers do this all the time. They get people into promotions (most which they can find a way to make happen so long as its not too far outside the box).
The dealer did not do it to be helpful, which is the sad thing. Dealers, including managers, make more commission off contracts than they do off devices. So he would have made more commission still with that contract than having you spend money on devices. They do this because the company makes more money having you pay the monthly service cost than by having you buy a full cost phone or tablet.
In essence, it takes a company 18-24 months to make back the subsidized cost of a device. That means that 199 bucks you paid, you will pay back the missing 300 bucks on the plan after typically 18 months. Then they get 6 months of profit. So you do actually pay for the device for full cost anyways.,,,and they just extended out how long between upgrades and by the time you get around to actually being eligible for upgrade they may be extending it out further. The current discussions in the industry are talking about 3 year contracts and 2+ year upgrades.
What you have to consider is the lifetime cost of service and the device. They want you to buy a tablet. It makes you pay for their service, instead of just tethering your phone to the tablet. Tethering is cheaper, not contracts, and you wind up paying A LOT LESS even if you pay full cost for the device.
Truth is that ATT customers typically pay close to 1-2K more than many of the carriers that charge full cost for a device. Basically that 300 bucks you saved cost you at least a grand more in the end, and the manager who was "helping" you basically just weasled you into a contract where you will pay more for a separate plan for the tablet instead of just using cheaper tethering options (considering you still share data regardless) and he just got a good commission out of you.
Sad but true. You just got suckered.
How do I know? Nearly 7 years working in the wireless industry. Some of that time with AT&T and a great deal of that time with retail agents and retail policy.
I'm not trying to be a downer, but I hate AT&T dealers. After working for them for so long, Ive come to find that just about every single dealer if about as underhanded as a used car salesman trying to sell you a lemon and convince you its a ferrari. I used to see the dealers in my home town and my normal reaction to them is equivalent to the thought of "you sick bastard."
I do not know how many "deals" a dealer has done that I have had to fix, but typically even if their promises are kept they still use you and screw you over.
Ive even heard dealer chatter. How they talk about customers and think of customers as no more than a mark to be scammed so they can get their next commission. Ive seen more respect for their "victims" from the criminals on "to catch a predator."

phoenixbennu said:
lol. Dealers do this all the time. They get people into promotions (most which they can find a way to make happen so long as its not too far outside the box).
The dealer did not do it to be helpful, which is the sad thing. Dealers, including managers, make more commission off contracts than they do off devices. So he would have made more commission still with that contract than having you spend money on devices. They do this because the company makes more money having you pay the monthly service cost than by having you buy a full cost phone or tablet.
In essence, it takes a company 18-24 months to make back the subsidized cost of a device. That means that 199 bucks you paid, you will pay back the missing 300 bucks on the plan after typically 18 months. Then they get 6 months of profit. So you do actually pay for the device for full cost anyways.,,,and they just extended out how long between upgrades and by the time you get around to actually being eligible for upgrade they may be extending it out further. The current discussions in the industry are talking about 3 year contracts and 2+ year upgrades.
What you have to consider is the lifetime cost of service and the device. They want you to buy a tablet. It makes you pay for their service, instead of just tethering your phone to the tablet. Tethering is cheaper, not contracts, and you wind up paying A LOT LESS even if you pay full cost for the device.
Truth is that ATT customers typically pay close to 1-2K more than many of the carriers that charge full cost for a device. Basically that 300 bucks you saved cost you at least a grand more in the end, and the manager who was "helping" you basically just weasled you into a contract where you will pay more for a separate plan for the tablet instead of just using cheaper tethering options (considering you still share data regardless) and he just got a good commission out of you.
Sad but true. You just got suckered.
How do I know? Nearly 7 years working in the wireless industry. Some of that time with AT&T and a great deal of that time with retail agents and retail policy.
I'm not trying to be a downer, but I hate AT&T dealers. After working for them for so long, Ive come to find that just about every single dealer if about as underhanded as a used car salesman trying to sell you a lemon and convince you its a ferrari. I used to see the dealers in my home town and my normal reaction to them is equivalent to the thought of "you sick bastard."
I do not know how many "deals" a dealer has done that I have had to fix, but typically even if their promises are kept they still use you and screw you over.
Ive even heard dealer chatter. How they talk about customers and think of customers as no more than a mark to be scammed so they can get their next commission. Ive seen more respect for their "victims" from the criminals on "to catch a predator."
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While your statements are true they are not necessarily accurate. The only way a person would have been "suckered" is if he didn't know what you describe. But almost all consumers realize that there is no free lunch and that the choice of purchasing outright or monthly result in the full price of the device being paid. The only difference is when payment accrues and how much the final cost will be. No different than purchasing a vehicle or a home.
In addition, the accuracy of your claim of being suckered depends on whether the purchaser bought because of the lower initial price or because he wanted the device in any case. In my case I had already decided to purchase the Note 8 from AT&T and only awaited the availability of the Note 8 at AT&T as I wanted the LTE data option. Thus, my only decision was whether to pay full price or add a two year contract to my account. Since I would have to have a data plan from AT&T to use the LTE feature in any case I needed to have an additional phone line. So I was able to get the regular discounted price or pay full price plus the new line costs (these I would pay no matter how I purchased the device and would last as long as I wanted to use the device). With the additional bundle price I decided to purchase at $199 instead of $399. Of course I realize I will pay full price over the next 24 months including the premium for purchasing by installment. But I knew that, considered it, and choose to do it. Thus, I made a considered decision and was not "suckered".
And clearly the sales staff is trying to sell devices and services that bring them the greatest commission. That's what they do for a living. The consumer knows that too. Maybe the real "suckers" are those sales people that think that they are being really "sharp".
Bruce

cataloochee said:
While your statements are true they are not necessarily accurate. The only way a person would have been "suckered" is if he didn't know what you describe. But almost all consumers realize that there is no free lunch and that the choice of purchasing outright or monthly result in the full price of the device being paid. The only difference is when payment accrues and how much the final cost will be. No different than purchasing a vehicle or a home.
In addition, the accuracy of your claim of being suckered depends on whether the purchaser bought because of the lower initial price or because he wanted the device in any case. In my case I had already decided to purchase the Note 8 from AT&T and only awaited the availability of the Note 8 at AT&T as I wanted the LTE data option. Thus, my only decision was whether to pay full price or add a two year contract to my account. Since I would have to have a data plan from AT&T to use the LTE feature in any case I needed to have an additional phone line. So I was able to get the regular discounted price or pay full price plus the new line costs (these I would pay no matter how I purchased the device and would last as long as I wanted to use the device). With the additional bundle price I decided to purchase at $199 instead of $399. Of course I realize I will pay full price over the next 24 months including the premium for purchasing by installment. But I knew that, considered it, and choose to do it. Thus, I made a considered decision and was not "suckered".
And clearly the sales staff is trying to sell devices and services that bring them the greatest commission. That's what they do for a living. The consumer knows that too. Maybe the real "suckers" are those sales people that think that they are being really "sharp".
Bruce
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Same here. I don't feel suckered. I walked into the AT&T store fully planning on paying $499 full retail for the tablet. The contract price was $399 and it wasn't worth it to me to lock myself in for 2 years purely to save $100 off retail. However, when I was offered $199 for the tablet, now we're talking about saving $300 over retail up front and that WAS worth it to me as far as locking myself in for two years. I was able to put the $300 toward something else and I love having an LTE tablet. Win-win. It's only being "suckered" if you're led to believe one thing and something different actually happens. I knew what I was getting into.

oldblue910 said:
Same here. I don't feel suckered. I walked into the AT&T store fully planning on paying $499 full retail for the tablet. The contract price was $399 and it wasn't worth it to me to lock myself in for 2 years purely to save $100 off retail. However, when I was offered $199 for the tablet, now we're talking about saving $300 over retail up front and that WAS worth it to me as far as locking myself in for two years. I was able to put the $300 toward something else and I love having an LTE tablet. Win-win. It's only being "suckered" if you're led to believe one thing and something different actually happens. I knew what I was getting into.
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"You can lead them to the water but you can't make them drink" Of course you know they will, because they're thirsty!!

Nice that's great that they took care of you.. In reality I think you came out on top because if they switched you to mobile share you are only payin $10 a month for that line being locked in for the next 2 years would be $240 so by being in contract you actually get the device for $60 less than full retail.. Great stuff had a similar experience and that's what pushed me over the edge to get it

Best Buy deal

Went to buy the 4 With Walmart ad for price match on their $40 off deal. Found out Best Buy started deal better. Came out with Note 4 half price.
Glad I waited a little

I dont see this deal anywhere. Is this in-store only?

Not sure. I didn't know about it . My wife went to get it and when she showed the Walmart ad to him he said he had a better deal.
Gave her $150 gift card and let her use it on phone. She called me very happy as was I.
I Was just complaining about my luck the day before because Walnut was sold out.
Turns out that was a blessing!

I did a little searching. You must have gotten them to price match with the Costco deal:
http://membershipwireless.com/index.cfm/go/shop/do/PhoneDetails/productId/28256
I'm considering doing this today. Did Best Buy allow you to use the gift card on the Note 4 purchase?

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I did a little searching. You must have gotten them to price match with the Costco deal:
http://membershipwireless.com/index.cfm/go/shop/do/PhoneDetails/productId/28256
I'm considering doing this today. Did Best Buy allow you to use the gift card on the Note 4 purchase?
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Yes they did.

Ah, didn't see this point few mins ago, but I just did a PM with walmart successfully. Enjoy!

sprintuser1977 said:
Went to buy the 4 With Walmart ad for price match on their $40 off deal. Found out Best Buy started deal better. Came out with Note 4 half price.
Glad I waited a little
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Did you post a screen shot cause I don't see anything. Can you explain the deal because I just bought my note 4 from best buy on Monday and didn't get any deal. They price matched Verizon since I paid full price

Tried two Best Buys with no luck. As usual, it seems each Best Buy has their own policy. One BB said they wont price match Costco. The other said it was for new lines only. Did you get this through a new line? I just want to upgrade my line. I kinda wish I didnt goof on missing the trade in deal...

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Tried two Best Buys with no luck. As usual, it seems each Best Buy has their own policy. One BB said they wont price match Costco. The other said it was for new lines only. Did you get this through a new line? I just want to upgrade my line. I kinda wish I didnt goof on missing the trade in deal...
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l added a line. 1 had not seen it advertised either. My wife went to pick it up with the Walmart ad and the rep told her he could do that but had something better.
She said he printed out something, then scanned a Barcode off the print out and told her she would get a $150 gift card. He then told her she could use it towards the phone.
I asked her and he never told her what it was he printed out or what. We were just elated it happened.
For reference this was in Valdosta, Georgia.
If needed I will try and post receipt

Hey! I work at Best Buy Mobile! So let me clarify this deal for you guys! It shouldn't have been a price match to WalMart or CostCo. We normally don't match ads with CostCo because you have to pay them for a membership and it isn't a public store, so they're able to afford putting up crazy-ass deals as they do, and we don't match WalMart (in the Mobile department) because almost every single phone is subsidized and the price is set by the carrier for us, so we cannot modify the price because we end up losing whatever difference in price there is as we don't get that refunded to us from the carrier. Also, we do direct contracts with the carriers that we support, unlike Car Toys and CostCo and a few other places which run under third-party contracts.
Not too sure what deal you guys got onto, but for the rest of this week only you will receive a $150 gift card per NEW LINE you start with Verizon right now. Husband and I just upgraded to Note 4s tonight by porting into Verizon from AT&T/T-Mobile and got $300 back in gift-cards, which we used to pay for the deposit that Verizon wanted from me ('cause my credit isn't too good and I was more interested in the Edge program anyway.)
So, what probably happened is that you added a new line, which qualified for the instant gift which is able to be applied toward the cost of the phone (if you're buying it on a 2-year contract, doesn't work toward your device payments via Edge [unless you have to pay a deposit]). Also just so that everyone is aware, if you're on a More Everything Plan, make sure that you're aware that this month there is a promo plan through Verizon where the 10GB plan is going for $80 and $100 for the 15GB plan.

Ugh WTH ATT/Moto?

So ATT can't fix the recalled phones in-store at a corporate location? UGH!
My ATT contract has been up for about 2 months now. I wanted the Note 4 but now that Chainfire has said it will mostlikely not be bootloader unlocked, I've lost interest. Decide to wait on the Nexus 6. Missed pre-ordering so I decided to just pick one up today at my local store. Went to get one and was told they couldn't sell me one.
I can't afford to buy one outright, need do to a 2-year or Next and I really wanted to stick with ATT.
Went to order one online to get one hopefully on the way but now they are out-of-stock online! UGH.
Really sucky part is that my S3 broke about 2 weeks ago, screen is cracked and the digitizer doesn't work right so I can barely use it. I can answer calls but not place them or really use the phone.
Sad panda! :*(

Sorry to hear that, but you can always try T-Mobile. You can still buy it from them and can pay in monthly intervals for 24 months
http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/google-nexus-6.html#Midnight-Blue
$0 down. $27 for 24 months (32GB), $29 for 24 months (64GB)
Do note that you will have to wait before it gets shipped, or you can call your nearby T-Mobile stores to see if they have any in stock.

T-Mobile loves you.
Sent from my Nexus 6

If this guy orders from T-Mobile, and gets his phone before I get mine (a 64GB ordered on 11/19, 8 AM CST), I'm going to lose my ^&*(.
EDIT: kdoggy, I wish you the best in your endeavors to get a hold of this phone...

I was in a similar situation a few months ago. My Galaxy S4 broke. I was still in the middle of my contract with AT&T and couldn't afford to replace my phone at full retail price. I was thinking about ditching AT&T anyway. I switched to T-Mobile. I I traded in my busted S4 towards a Nexus 5, got the unlimited plan and had all but a few bucks of my AT&T ETF paid off by T-Mobile and haven't looked back. Just got my Nexus 6 the other day.

kdoggy said:
So ATT can't fix the recalled phones in-store at a corporate location? UGH!
Went to order one online to get one hopefully on the way but now they are out-of-stock online! UGH.(
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What I did today was go into the store and do a 'direct fulfillment' order and basically ordered the phone. No idea when it will ship, but that way you won't have to keep checking online and also they can make sure and set up your plan just the way you want it etc. Make all the necessary changes. I would recommend doing it this way. The rep almost sold me the unit they had, but saw the notice on her screen or something. Was that close!

I can't really switch from AT&T. We have 3 other phones on our account and my wife is not willing to switch from AT&T and she does not want a new phone. She is happy with keeping her S3 Vs. paying for a new phone. She was all set to grab an S5 for $1.00 this Black Friday until she found out that we have been charged a "$25.00" dollar up-charge for the phones the past two years. She is enjoying the $15.00 per line right now and doesn't even want ME to buy a new phone.
Her and the kids just bought new batteries for their S3's so they have no plans to change. I use my phone for work though (state government, in the technology services field) so I have an excuse and justification for an upgrade. Also the state gives me a $70.00 dollars a month reimbursement towards my phone bill and I get a 20% discount for being a state gov employee.

kdoggy said:
I can't really switch from AT&T. We have 3 other phones on our account and my wife is not willing to switch from AT&T and she does not want a new phone. She is happy with keeping her S3 Vs. paying for a new phone. She was all set to grab an S5 for $1.00 this Black Friday until she found out that we have been charged a "$25.00" dollar up-charge for the phones the past two years. She is enjoying the $15.00 per line right now and doesn't even want ME to buy a new phone.
Her and the kids just bought new batteries for their S3's so they have no plans to change. I use my phone for work though (state government, in the technology services field) so I have an excuse and justification for an upgrade. Also the state gives me a $70.00 dollars a month reimbursement towards my phone bill and I get a 20% discount for being a state gov employee.
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Your other alternative would be to buy it from Motorola on Wednesday and get 6/12/18 month financing or to just wait for AT&T.

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Your other alternative would be to buy it from Motorola on Wednesday and get 6/12/18 month financing or to just wait for AT&T.
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How does that work with Motorola? Now when you say Motorola, I assume you mean threw Google Play? How does the financing work?

I am also with AT&T, and a few months ago I was trying to pick up the Nexus 5 from T-Mobile. T-Mobile would not sell me the phone at all unless I purchased some form of service with them. Regardless of the fact the phone is unlocked; the reps stated their systems wouldn't allow a phone sale without accompanying service. So good luck buying from T-Mob.

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How does that work with Motorola? Now when you say Motorola, I assume you mean threw Google Play? How does the financing work?
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No not through Google Play. http://www.motorola.com/us/consumers/nexus-6-header/Nexus-6/nexus-6-motorola-us.html
When its in stock (Wednesdays) itll be available to buy. Its really tough from buying there and Google Play as it'll be out of stock and whatnot.
Financing is the same thing as you would on a carrier. You can pay out ~$649 + tax in 6/12/18 months (you pick) and you have to be approved.

2 Options for those who are at a loss of what to do

Heres a couple of choices for those that arent sure what to do.
A) If you returned your old device to ATT per the Next agreement. You may be able to have the Next agreement nullified. You can then purchase a $20 unlocked phone for temp use until next year. Or whenever the next 'superphone' comes out. All the best upgrades are probably happening next year anyhow.
B) If you did NOT return your old device, and sold it for cash, or passed it along to family - you can choose to "upgrade" to the cheapest possible phone (<$99 i believe) and pay it off cash all at once. This would let you have the upgrade available again, immediately for your next superphone.
Either way, you have options. One thing about the first one, you have to really haggle them to get out of the Next agreement. Stick to your guns, as the conditions of that situation mean you aren't owing ATT anything at the moment, and thus shouldn't be forced into purchasing a phone.
My 2 cents.

I'd like to think there's a few more options, such as those who paid their old devices off and kept it, they can get a refund on the Note 7 for what they paid so far and go back to their old device with the upgrade available for when they see a new phone of their liking, This is what I'll be doing once ATT or Samsung sends us notifications about the recall (because, so far, it's "strongly recommended" but voluntary to do so).

I bought the AT&T Note 7 on installments which I guess put me on the "Next" plan. Then I sold the Note 7 on eBay.
Anything cool for me to be able to take advantage of?

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I bought the AT&T Note 7 on installments which I guess put me on the "Next" plan. Then I sold the Note 7 on eBay.
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Why would you do that?

LOL seriously tho, what was the point in upgrading then? You keep 800 or so bucks but pay massive interest in payments to att. Just to be clear the Next plan just rolls the subsidies of the phone into the plan. You wind up paying almost double the cost of the device over the course of the payment period, unless you upgrade in one year. In which case your still paying nearly the full cost of the phone in installments.

I did the BOGO and sold the free one on eBay.. so if I return the one I have I'll no longer get the bogo deal and they'll want the device payments for the other.. so not sure what to do.

Phlip00ws6 said:
I did the BOGO and sold the free one on eBay.. so if I return the one I have I'll no longer get the bogo deal and they'll want the device payments for the other.. so not sure what to do.
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If you sold that free one for as much as the Note 7 costs retail, you're basically not losing much if you keep your phone. I know it aint fun considering you didn't make any profit out of it, but you could always just pay off the plan in full at this point. You just keep that phone in that case and are out of a contract/plan. You could always stop using the Note 7 then, and get into a new plan. Either way, there's no reason to take a loss at this point