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I sent my Touch HD back to HTC earlier this week to fix my apparent broken WIFI and Bluetooth. I was worried that I wouldn't be able to cope without it so I dusted off my old Orange M700 (HTC Trinity).
Unfortunately I decided to flash the rom and ended up with a brick (another story) so I had to dust off one of my other spare phones:
Orange M1000 (too big and battery life issues)
Sony Ericsson K750 (locked to the wrong network)
Sony Ericsson W800i (right network, can't find the battery cover!)
Nokia 5140 (right network, nothing missing...essentially a rugged phone from about 4 years ago. Can I really cope for 2 weeks with this old phone?
The answer is yes! My god, when did I start having to charge my phone daily? This nokia was charged on Sunday night and the battery is still at about 50%. It's also a little on the sturdy/rugged side - supposed to be splashproof and drop proof and I can confirm already that it is. The ringtones are very old skool and the screen is smaller than my watch but many people at work have said they are thinking now of getting something similar as a backup phone. Lets just say that in my line of work, I'm likely to break my phone in many ways and this little phone works a treat.
I am looking forward to getting my Hd back but I think I'm going to miss the little Nokia. Its reminded me that a phone can be just a phone sometimes.
Your thoughts?
I think I get what you mean, I personally still use my old Nokia everyday just for the sake of its alarm and as a backup phone (for some reasons, I can't really trust the HD to wake me up in the morning). My HD wouldn't even notify me of new text messages sometimes (I have to look for workarounds for this issue, while the Nokia simply works right out of the box). But then again, at almost every other aspects, the HD outperforms the Nokia, leaving it far behind.
I guess its kinda like having both a Ferrari and a Toyota sedan. Where the Ferrari outperforms the Toyota at almost all engineering aspects, sometimes the daily drives are still best served by the latter; simply because you know you wouldn't have to worry about petrol consumptions or all the speedbumps on the road.
one must admit, you cant have it all. but truth be told, this is the beauty of windows mobile, the experience is very personalised, after tweeking the phone to your needs, it becomes your special gadget. thats why i can always understand the frustration of people coming new into windows mobile, because they lack the patience to learn, how to make their phone better work. to be honest i myself have spent alot of time on the forums, until i became really comfortable with this phone.
as for the alarm issue, i usually soft reset the phone before i go to bed, and i havent ,missed an alarm yet.( i use galarm by the way).
i used to own one of those sturdy nokia phones, the ones with a rubber coating. and yes it gives u a peace of mind to know that u dont need to worry about cracking the screen everytime u sit down...
Physical:
- Speaker phone doesn't work -- at all!
- Keyboard rubs, plastic on plastic will be worn out soon and look ****ty
- Light leak above menu keys on the sides
- Track pad isn't consistent. Mostly it's correct in direction swipe.
- GPS takes a while to locate but is usually very precise.
- Keyboard has non-intuitive layout.
Software:
- Messages (text) constantly has "1 message" or more displayed permanently
- MyFaves duplicates notifications and is ****ty to look at.
- Google Sky Maps doesn't focus properly
- Can't remove some applications
- No "Link All" contacts with Twitter/FB
- No way to reprogram "MyFave" button to another program.
Phone Recommendation: Avoid this phone.
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Physical:
- Installing and Uninstalling a different speaker phone app has "enabled" it, for me at least.
- Light leak is really, really bad. Can see light through the side of the shell (near buttons).
- No dust in my phone, daily use. I don't really spend much time in dusty areas.
- Track pad still inconsistent
- GPS is amazingly accurate. Down to the address (not a range).
- Keyboard is still feeling awkward. After 3 weeks I'm still not used to it.
Software:
- Same problems.
New Discoveries:
Software:
- Contacts manager for text messaging shows multiples of EACH contact, including the "Linked" together contacts. I'm seeing 8 entries for a person with 2 contact numbers.
- Auto Orientation doesn't work when the screen is closed for "HOME" screen.
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Physical:
Phone Recommendation: Avoid this phone.
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Ha! So your G1 is superior? Atleast you can still return the phone! Btw take everyone off of your faves thing and it won't go off, and try ending it with an app manager. Speaker phone is just as low in any of the non rooted phones with out the audio mod. Same with the not being able to remove apps. The sliding gets a lot better. The messaging thing has been posted in the bugs thread. You can use handcent if it bothers you too much or if I recall there was a widget app that does the same thing but changes the icon, but I bet it has its quirks too.
Physical:
- Speaker phone doesn't work -- at all! No problems with mine here.. maybe you got a defective one
- Keyboard rubs, plastic on plastic will be worn out soon and look ****ty it goes away after a bit. I have strong doubts that it will ever leave physical marks on anything important
- Light leak above menu keys on the sides Come on... really? If that little bit bothers you, maybe you're just better off not owning a phone.
- Track pad isn't consistent. Mostly it's correct in direction swipe. I'll give you this one. It's not the best feature thats for sure
- GPS takes a while to locate but is usually very precise. Mine has always been quick and dead accurate
- Keyboard has non-intuitive layout. I went from a G1 to a Cliq to this phone, and this one has the best HWK of the 3, in my opinion.
Software:
- Messages (text) constantly has "1 message" or more displayed permanently Use Handcent. It allows much more flexibility and customization anyways.
- MyFaves duplicates notifications and is ****ty to look at. MyFaves sucks, don't use it if you don't like it.
- Google Sky Maps doesn't focus properly It's a lousy app and I've never seen it properly display anything on any Android phone I've used it on.
- Can't remove some applications Get used to it. Even on vanilla Android you can't remove useless apps.
- No "Link All" contacts with Twitter/FB Mine linked most of mine automatically, and the ones that weren't automatic were easy and quick to do.
- No way to reprogram "MyFave" button to another program. I'm sure it will come with root.
Phone Recommendation: Avoid this phone. Go ahead and return it and keep your G1. I'll take the Slide over just about ANY Android phone out right now.
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turboyo pretty much said the same thing, but I figured I would reiterate it for you. I'm tired of people *****ing on here about this phone and this or that or what not. You're one of those people that would buy any phone and immediately post on a forum every diminutive little issue you find. It's a brand new phone. It's bound to have bugs. If you can't deal with that, don't buy it, or wait 6 months to buy it.
I wonder if it would make most people feel better about the phone if they were forced to use an old Startac handset for a week.
x2 on the sliding getting better over time
at first it scared me and i almost thought i had a defective unit but either its better or i just got used to sliding it out.
All the issues and bugs that are being reported, I have not had any. So far the slide has been my best phone. No complains here.
If you drag out a new message shortcut out of the launcher and onto the home screen where your current message widget is it clears out the number. then discard the shortcut..
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turboyo pretty much said the same thing, but I figured I would reiterate it for you. I'm tired of people *****ing on here about this phone and this or that or what not. You're one of those people that would buy any phone and immediately post on a forum every diminutive little issue you find. It's a brand new phone. It's bound to have bugs. If you can't deal with that, don't buy it, or wait 6 months to buy it.
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Don't read a complaint thread if you're tired of it.
Yes, I am unsatisfied with a light leak, the sliding, the software errors, the gps, the star maps. These are the perks of this phone. I didn't pay to be a beta tester. I expect my phone to look and function properly.
My G1 didn't get wild with star maps or gps. Wouldn't we progress forward after 2 years?
Do you go buy a brand new car that has a dent or scratch on it and just pay full price -- not complaining?
Man I had a g1 on launch day and used it up until I got this phone. I loved the g1 and I love this phone, My only complaint has to do with just relearning on a 4 row keyboard as opposed to a 5 row, and really my only prob is the tab key is where my thumb feels the a key should be so I keep having to backspace but I'll live.
I almost didn't order this phone thinking a "better" sliding qwerty phone was coming but as nothing solid was on the horizon I went ahead. Super happy with the purchase.
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Don't read a complaint thread if you're tired of it.
Yes, I am unsatisfied with a light leak, the sliding, the software errors, the gps, the star maps. These are the perks of this phone. I didn't pay to be a beta tester. I expect my phone to look and function properly.
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There is a big difference between complaining and being unsatisfied.
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Do you go buy a brand new car that has a dent or scratch on it and just pay full price -- not complaining?
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90% of what you're talking about here is topical, and more than likely jsut your phone impaticular. Do you go buy a brand new car and complain about the car as a whole just beacuse of a few scratches and dents and tell people to go buy anotehr car beacuse of it? No, you take it back and either have it fixed, or you get a replacement,
Physical:
- Speaker phone doesn't work -- at all! Ive used my speaker phone more than Ive used it regularly, the volume cant be maxed out or it gets a tad distorted, however, if it doesnt work "at all" your phone is defective.
- Keyboard rubs, plastic on plastic will be worn out soon this is fact and look ****ty this is...fortuine telling? Ive heavly used my slide, and the noise is already gone, and doesnt look "****ty"
- Light leak above menu keys on the sides again, I see no signs of this, and I use the phone a lot, I even just took it out just now and looked at it from all angles, your phone really may be defective.
- Track pad isn't consistent. Mostly it's correct in direction swipe. Ill somewhat agree with this, my issue with it is that the track pad is a rectangle....but its facing the wrong direction when the keboard is slid out, which is 90% of the time when it would be in use. That was just bad engineering.
- GPS takes a while to locate but is usually very precise. In the City (Chicago) in the outer suburbs, and out in the boondocks 3 hrs away, it locates just as fast as my Garmin and my TomTom
- Keyboard has non-intuitive layout. Im not sure why they at least didn't shade down either the Letters or Numbers. They could have done without thw home key, he menu key, the tab key and made them slightly larger. But thats all really nitpicking, as Ive pretty much already gotten used to the keyboard.
Software:
- Messages (text) constantly has "1 message" or more displayed permanently Defective
- MyFaves duplicates notifications and is ****ty to look at. Why are you useing MyFaves?
- Google Sky Maps doesn't focus properly Cant comment, dont have it.
- Can't remove some applications Are you new?
- No "Link All" contacts with Twitter/FB I also hate that my phone doesnt make me toast in the morning. I mean, I paid good money for this thing.
- No way to reprogram "MyFave" button to another program. That kinda pissed me off, making it a definite part of the UI was pure Tmo duchebagery
Phone Recommendation: Seriously may want to return your phone and get one that works as it should
I have never had a "perfect" car to drive, nor have I ever even seen or heard of one. I'm pretty sure if they made one it would be called a Rolls Royce and be expensive as hell. If I wanted to be critical I could go with the old "why is it not waterproof and babysit when I wanna go out and drink beer with the guys". Five years ago this phone was out of everyones ability to even manufacture. I hear complaints at work all day, but it an extremely rare occasion when someone offers a solution. My motto is "if you don't like it, fix it". Or at the very least, look for someone who has.
ok The only issue I really have is I used Handcent SMS on my g1 but I can NOT find it in the app market with this phone. I did a search on both the G1 and the Slide. The sreach brought up the exact same results only Handcent SMS was listed on the G1 search results and NOT listed on the slide one. Anyone have an idea behind this at all?
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ok The only issue I really have is I used Handcent SMS on my g1 but I can NOT find it in the app market with this phone. I did a search on both the G1 and the Slide. The sreach brought up the exact same results only Handcent SMS was listed on the G1 search results and NOT listed on the slide one. Anyone have an idea behind this at all?
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It's google's issue. Supposedly it's fixed now. Try it again. I never had a problem not finding all these apps on my Slide.
Hnadcent SMS is showing up in the market today!
this phone roxers hard
hell yeah i love this phone best one i have had yet and all ur problems are on your phone only ...........stop dissing the phones before u have a chance to use them longer than a day ..i came from a cliq it was ok but this phone is the best i have seen in a long time
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hell yeah i love this phone best one i have had yet and all ur problems are on your phone only ...........stop dissing the phones before u have a chance to use them longer than a day ..i came from a cliq it was ok but this phone is the best i have seen in a long time
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It's funny to me how many people came from a cliq to this and are just absolutely amazed at the difference. My cliq almost made me hate android/tmo
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It's funny to me how many people came from a cliq to this and are just absolutely amazed at the difference. My cliq almost made me hate android/tmo
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Yea, I came from a cliq too, and I too was amazed at the differance. Only thing it made me hate was Motorola though.
Ill use 2 tin cans (string optional) before I buy another moto phone.
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Yea, I came from a cliq too, and I too was amazed at the differance. Only thing it made me hate was Motorola though.
Ill use 2 tin cans (string optional) before I buy another moto phone.
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Ah, there you go. I was forgetting the biggest one to hate. And yeah I guess I retract my previous statement. I can't hate Android for what Motorola effed up.
Just got my MT3G Slide yesterday; it is really a GREAT phone. Not sure what's going on with the poster's phone but mine has absolutely none of those issues. Kinda makes me wonder if he/she even has one. Buyer's remorse is there for a reason and I would not hesitate to return the Slide if i didn't think it was an absolute upgrade from the G1, MT3G, Cliq or CliqXT. I am a hardcore G1 root user and I was EXTREMELY skeptical of this phone; I am a skeptic no longer. I'm not even worried about root as I have no immediate need for an ad-hoc data tether nor any real desire for flashing experimental ROM's. Best phone I've ever owned, hands down.
I picked the slide up Monday and I love it so far.
I have noticed the light leaking through the bottom of the case, when I am in a dark room. But that doesn't bother me, I've seen this on other decives as well.
The speed of this phone is very impressive, even with all the crap that Tmobile put on it out of the box! But I would like to root this phone so I can get rid of the stuff I am not using. Just bothers me having it there.
After almost a month with the Vibrant, Why I chose G2..
I really enjoyed the big screen on the vibrant, definitely there is no flaws there, with the gorilla glass the samoled screen was just perfectly crisp.
The camera's daytime shots looked beautiful and camcorder recording was great, 720P quality, and night time mode wasn't too shabby either.
I actually thought the TouchWiz experience was fairly pleasant. Swype was also excellent.
However, theres just so many things wrong with the vibrant that urked me.
My G1 had better reception, 5 Bars, vs the Vibrant's 1-2 Bar or Occasional No Signal
The touch buttons at the bottom of vibrant, while they were pretty sensitive, it felt laggy...
Samsung Built their %$%# file system on their own properietary technology
GPS, Sorta works, but it just felt inferior to the G1's GPS, which is sad.
Ram on the Vibrant.. Although the Vibrant has 512MB of Ram, your lucky to have 100MB ram free. Why? Because its not 2.2, but also when I thought of it, I felt its because Samsung isn't as good at programming efficient kernels for their radio, etc.
128MB Ram (supposedly dedicated to graphics) which is great, but I realized I don't really need that much graphics power, Angry Birds should run fine on just about anything.
My Vibrant would power off in middle of day, or reboot randomly
It felt cheap, the buttons, the plastic backing, so glossy and cheap feeling, I had a nice mesh case would remedied a lot of the feel, but it still felt like a toy.
Sound Quality through the stereo jack, varies, from what I understand, Samsung applies their own EQ baseed on the OHM rating of your headphones or line-level connection.
Poor Software, Support, its Samsung's first generation galaxy phone, maybe next year... We shouldn't have to apply hackish lag fixes to make up for samsung's half-baked file system.
Dude. Wheres my FLASH man!, need Light, also not having Flash Support on websites I wanted to visit pissed me off so many times.
Ultimately, I felt like the Vibrant was an early prototype with lots of issues, and weighing how long each phone would last I felt the G2 would last 2 years like my G1, but the Vibrant I'd be lucky if it lasted a year, especially with it having such flimsy buttons, (power/vol). I basically babied the Vibrant, had a case, and a pouch to keep it extra safe. I didn't feel the need to do that with the G1.
Although I loved the swype on a big screen, I realize, buttons are important, even if you don't need them all the time, especially for games, scrolling through text, flash games, remoting to your pc at home. Connecting to a terminal perhaps?
In this sense, the G2 is the true gaming phone, and not the vibrant, it seems all the vibrant is geared to do is to play avatar movie, and the sims 3 mobile game, so they beefed up the ram usage for the gpu.
Also, who could deny the guaranteed development community that the G2 will definitely have, I felt the entire vibrant development was powered by 3-4 people. Samsung hasn't even come out with 2.2 yet on the vibrant, and even if they do, their crappy file system and kernels is still going to suck up a good chunk of the good it brings. My G1, made by HTC was sturdy, I've dropped it hard countless times onto concrete and it worked fine till the day I got rid of it.
QwertyAccess said:
After almost a month with the Vibrant, Why I chose G2..
I really enjoyed the big screen on the vibrant, definitely there is no flaws there, with the gorilla glass the samoled screen was just perfectly crisp.
The camera's daytime shots looked beautiful and camcorder recording was great, 720P quality, and night time mode wasn't too shabby either.
I actually thought the TouchWiz experience was fairly pleasant.
However, theres just so many things wrong with the vibrant that urked me.
My G1 had better reception, 5 Bars, vs the Vibrant's 1-2 Bar or Occasional No Signal
The touch buttons at the bottom of vibrant, while they were pretty sensitive, it felt laggy...
Samsung Built their %$%# file system on their own properietary technology
GPS, Sorta works, but it just felt inferior to the G1's GPS, which is sad.
Ram on the Vibrant.. Although the Vibrant has 512MB of Ram, your lucky to have 100MB ram free. Why? Because its not 2.2, but also when I thought of it, I felt its because Samsung isn't as good at programming efficient kernels for their radio, etc.
128MB Ram (supposedly dedicated to graphics) which is great, but I realized I don't really need that much graphics power, Angry Birds should run fine on just about anything.
My Vibrant would power off in middle of day, or reboot randomly
It felt cheap, the buttons, the plastic backing, so glossy and cheap feeling, I had a nice mesh case would remedied a lot of the feel, but it still felt like a toy.
Sound Quality through the stereo jack, varies, from what I understand, Samsung applies their own EQ baseed on the OHM rating of your headphones or line-level connection.
Poor Software, Support, its Samsung's first generation galaxy phone, maybe next year... We shouldn't have to apply hackish lag fixes to make up for samsung's half-baked file system.
Dude. Wheres my FLASH man!, need Light, also not having Flash Support on websites I wanted to visit pissed me off so many times.
Ultimately, I felt like the Vibrant was an early prototype with lots of issues, and weighing how long each phone would last I felt the G2 would last 2 years like my G1, but the Vibrant I'd be lucky if it lasted a year, especially with it having such flimsy buttons, (power/vol). I basically babied the Vibrant, had a case, and a pouch to keep it extra safe. I didn't feel the need to do that with the G1.
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Sounds more like the Vibrant broke your heart, than the G2 winning your heart. All phones have issues, If you beleive you will be happier with the G2 then thats all that matters.
Personaly i wont be happy untill tmobile has a Solid 4.3 In display Android phone.
Well said, I do eventually want something with the build quality and feel of the HD2, I saw in the t-mobile store, theres something nice when something is made out of metal, with metallic feeling buttons.
4.3? I'm straight on that. That's HUGE! I can't be carrying box of girl scout cookies sized in my pocket. That's like carrying a first gen PSP in your pocket. (I think)
But I know what you mean, big screens are cool.
I've never owned any popular smart phone, so this will be my first Android phone and I'm glad it's going to be the G2. I just can't wait to hop onto the mobile app world own it up!
U know what gave it away before I read all that?
Your username
Why I probably will sell the Vibrant for the G2 is because of the following Vibrant issues that I have had with three different Vibrants:
1. Have to go into service mode to change the bluetooth settings for people to hear me because I sound too far away otherwise.
2. I can't view full pages with about:debug because it crashes the browser.
3. When I hold the phone close to the bottom I do lose reception.
4. How long it's taking for froyo to come out.
5. Lack of flash (Small not a big problem)
6. And ofcourse the notorious GPS.
To some these might not be a big deal but it was has me really thinking of switching. Don't get me wrong, I love the screen size and the screen itself. But function always comes before form for me.
Lol didn't even notice the screen name.
I just bought my mom the Vibrant.. lol.
She's coming from an old ass Nokia candybar. I hope it's not too difficult for her to get used to.
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My G1, made by HTC was sturdy, I've dropped it hard countless times onto concrete and it worked fine till the day I got rid of it.
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well, so did I, except 2 weeks ago I dropped my G1 on my wood floor at home, and that finally did the trick. the screen went all staticy and unreadable (though the phone still technically functioned otherwise).
such bad timing because I was gonna get the G2 anyway. but I'm a data addict and had to get a replacement phone for the meantime, also I got a mt3g 1.2. I was surprised, but its like way faster. the 1.2 version has 256 RAM as opposed to the 192 in the G1 and mt3g original, and it makes a huge difference. I don't need compcache turned on to to keep web pages in memory and gtalk signed in. I never realized how much compcache slows down the system.
long story short - as much as the mt3g 1.2 was an upgrade over the G1, the G2 is gonna be like 5 times that. can't wait.
/tangent
QwertyAccess,
I agree, I have been waiting for T-Mobile to release an Android handset with the build quality of the HD2.
The G2 is the closest thing I have seen, it feels very solid and well built.
Now if it would just get here.
Makes me glad we Sprint users got the most unique Galaxy S, flash and keyboard and GPS that works. Plus I can't believe this beast of a phone is so light as well.
Now, a Vibrant to the G2 might make sense to some but I dare say that if Samsung had made the Epic for all the U.S carriers in its current iteration (keyboard + flash), you might be singing a different tune.
Forgive My Brevity. To Be Or Not To Be...
If I end up selling my vibrant for a G2, it will be for a reason a little more bizarre. My 2008 Corvette with an aftermarket exhaust drones, my nokia n95, n85, e71, iphone, etc all worked fine but the Vibrant pics up the drone and noone can hear me when my car is on. I was going to buy a wireless bluetooth to fix the problem but that seems like such a bandaid fix.
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If I end up selling my vibrant for a G2, it will be for a reason a little more bizarre. My 2008 Corvette with an aftermarket exhaust drones, my nokia n95, n85, e71, iphone, etc all worked fine but the Vibrant pics up the drone and noone can hear me when my car is on. I was going to buy a wireless bluetooth to fix the problem but that seems like such a bandaid fix.
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why not get the nexus one which has the two mics, it is made for situations like that
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If I end up selling my vibrant for a G2, it will be for a reason a little more bizarre. My 2008 Corvette with an aftermarket exhaust drones, my nokia n95, n85, e71, iphone, etc all worked fine but the Vibrant pics up the drone and noone can hear me when my car is on. I was going to buy a wireless bluetooth to fix the problem but that seems like such a bandaid fix.
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had a VW R32 w/aftermarket exhaust that had a horrible drone - only did it between 2200 - 2800 rpm. Unless you're headache proof, it can be eliminated. I found the point on the exhaust line that were vibrating like a tuning fork & secured them it with an additional hanger strap/bracket and wrapped the muffler body with asbestos tape - knocked 80% of the drone out - wife became more agreeable to riding in it after that
I honestly dont find it that bad, every other phone works fine but the vibrant
T-Mobile is swapping my Vibrant for a G2, but I have to wait until the 6th to get it done. On my 3rd Vibrant. GPS and lag issues. I didn't expect them to do a swap. I was expecting to pay something. Nice.
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T-Mobile is swapping my Vibrant for a G2, but I have to wait until the 6th to get it done. On my 3rd Vibrant. GPS and lag issues. I didn't expect them to do a swap. I was expecting to pay something. Nice.
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I love my G1. It is rock solid. I've dropped it in water until it was several inches submerged... TWICE. I've dropped in on concrete many times. I used the clear, hard plastic, T-Mobile cases, and actually drove off with it on the roof of my car. At 20mph I saw it fly past my window and hit the ground. The case flew off, but the phone is completely fine.
Heck, my wife had one, dropped it in the grocery store parking lot (didn't realize it). I sent a text message to her phone and used GPS Tracker to find the phone. I then went to the parking lot and started calling her phone. It had been run over and thrown into a garbage can. The screen was toast, and the phone was dented and scratched, but the screen still lit up, the GPS still worked, and the phone was still ringing and accepting texts. Amazing!!
I hope the G2 is as good as the G1 was only updated. If so, I'll be very happy.
I've got a coworker with a Droid X. He's had problems with his phone locking up and freezing and needing to be rebooted, much more than I ever had with my G1, even when it was rooted and running all sorts of ROMs.
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Customer Loyalty.
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I didn't get a complete swap but the rep I talked too said that if you return your phone two or more times for warranty you can choose another phone per T-mobile policy. I had one warranty swap and a battery issue, the battery issue didn't qualify but if you have done two or more warranty exchanges you can get any other phone of "similar" specs for free. You just have to trade in the old phone.
Call 611 and say cancel when the computer answers. The person you talk to will be loyalty or retention or whatever they call it. They can do almost anything for you. Be nice and explain how much the Vibrant sux and how you want something done about it. They will be more than happy to take care of it for you.
There seems to be so many complaints from people and them replacements for their G2. Are a lot of people plagued by these problems? Do you think you have a perfect G2? (No dead pixels, no loose hinge, no random reboots, good battery, etc). I'm curious to see how many people actually needed to get a replacement before they got a 'good' phone.
I have had my G2 for about five days now, and the only problem I have is with the hinge. At first, I just thought people were complaining that the hinge would not snap-close/was easy to open, but after playing with he phone almost non-stop for the past five days I've noticed that it has actually gotten worse. It seems almost floppy now, and I fear that after a few months with this particular phone I will eventually be able to make it appear to talk. I'm going to go to T-mobile sometime in the next week and get a replacement, bu I'm curious as to what the chances are that I'll get a new phone with the same problem.
Aside from the hinge problem, I am far more than happy with the phone, bloatware and all. I'm hopeful that we will eventually have root and I look forward to keeping this phone for at least a couple of years.
No hardware problems. Just software problems which is obviously happening to everyone. I'm fine with it. Best phone I've had. And I've had em all from iphone to blackberry to android.
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No software problems here, and don't yet have a good sense of the battery, but this hinge is driving me nuts.
Also, you're missing at least one more option in the poll: "I have a problem but I can live with it."
I have had my g 2 for 24 hours and love it. fast and smooth and no broken parts. I travel and I have had excellent signal. have only charge my battery 1 time in the last 24 hours. coming from blackberry this device beats it hands down
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when sending or receiving picture messages, the phone resizes the picture to 12kb.. its ridiculous! i could send 1mb pictures with a goddamn Razr 4 years ago!.. anyone know how this can be fixed? also the voice recognition is useless.. the hardware keyboard is a bit flimsy, but i try to not use it much for that reason.. the battery doesn't last that long if you have "background sync" or whatever its called turned on. i turned all that crap off so now the battery actually lasts
I have had mine for about a week. Two things mildly annoy me: the speakerphone is tinny and when I place the phone screen up, my carefully customized mp3 ringtones sound weird. Two, the battery life seems to barely eke by to a day and this is without even getting on to the GPS and Bluetooth bandwagon. Just HSPA/EDGE surfing. Heck, I barely even use it to make calls. An extremely minor minor irritant is that when I tap on the app drawer (I am using LauncherPro) there seems to be a millisecond lag before the apps zoom out. I find that a bit clunky, but no serious complaints.
No big complaints about mine. I love it. Best phone ever.
Few small quirks/bugs I've noticed.
Trackpad moves itself when in bright sunlight or in a car and sun goes behind trees.
I've had one random reboot. But it was while streaming Pandora with headphones in my car with no A/C on a 95 degree day. Phone was quite hot and rebooted itself.
MMS slideshow sucks though an update should fix that.
Hinge, battery life, speed and data connection are all excellent in my opinion.
That's about it... I came from a Cliq and could not be happier.
After 24 hours the worst thing that I have had happen to me is the phone rattles a bit when it vibrates.
Otherwise so far it seems to be the best phone I've owned. I don't even know if I'll root it!
I messed up the news and weather app because I always get a force close now. I don't know where I went wrong.
I've replaced the clock app and it should be fine for now... using it with tasker if I had clock open and change orientation, id get the geniewidget error force close.
Don't like mms slideshow. Rare random reboot. I'm still happy with this phone though.
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Well I will have had my phone for two weeks on Sunday (10/17/2010). I just sold my Nexus one on Ebay this week. So yes I like this baby a lot. Its faster than the N1, I love the design. I have had one random reboot, my hinges are fine. I think it's the nature of the design, not a defect. They're suppose to be loose. Plus in actual use when are you going to hold a five hundred dollar upside down. If I have one gripe it maybe the screen coming from the n1, I'll miss them black levels. But overall it's an nice upgrade. Love stock android.
ive had mine for a few days now. coming from an N1, then to a samsung vibrant, now to this.
absolutely love it, my only dislikes are not having a dedicated number row on the keypad, and charge port placement. but as far as the hinge goes, i can lay in bed with it upside down and still text. no issues there. i just cant wait until i can get a new rom on it to adjust the track pad illumination like i had with cyanogen on my N1
but no real "problems"
I've had my G2 for a week now, and I absolutely love it. It's the first smartphone I've ever bought new, so just getting to unbox it was a treat. I haven't found anything wrong with the phone at all. Only gripe is that the led light doesn't blink when there's a new message/call. A light around the track pad flashes instead, but it is almost impossible to see except in the dark. Otherwise I love everything about my G2.
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I've had mine for 2 weeks now. Everything is fine, keyboard gap I can cope with, it only happens when phone is held upside down.
I'm loving the speed of this thing.
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Got mines on pre-order and i do have the upside down hinge situation but its far from a problem for me since I don't use my phone that way and don't know anyone who does. Phones is perfect through and through, awaiting root!
I have several problems with mine.
1) Autorotate is a FAIL, doesn't seem to work at all, so I just have it disabled.
2) Reception is even bigger FAIL. It can't get a signal in midtown NYC very well, while my junky Nokia 6030 has full signal almost everywhere. It can't even hold a WiFi signal in my house very well, while any other device does. (802.11g).
I had one replacement phone shipped to me by T-Mobile with a very defective hinge (When you opened it up, it would wobble like it wasn't seated properly) and I'm waiting on my second replacement (or 3rd phone) to arrive via UPS. Odds are I'm going to send them all back, this phone is a pretty big dissapointment for me.
Also I'm not a huge fan of the physical keyboard, I thought I'd use it a lot more than I do (which is almost never)
I regret being an "early adopter" for sure this time. It's been a huge waste of time, money, and trips to the UPS store for returning the phone (I pre-ordered the phone from T-Mobile)
1) Not a problem, just a personal thing: Wish keyboard had another row. Coming from Tilt2 I was used to 5 rows. This one seems to have too much going on.
2) I swithched to T-Mo for this phone. Don't know anyone else w/ T-Mo in my area. They advertise I am in a strong 3G area and very close to a HSDPA+ area. I only get Edge speeds. Even with a very strong full bar, it stays on edge. Using Speedtest.net I avg. 32kbs. Using my Tilt2 on AT&T I avg 1500kbs. Customer Service tried to convince me (in a very friendly voice) that I would be very happy with the much slower speeds. They are wrong.
Overall, I love the device, but will return it Monday. I may wait a few weeks to see if any radio updates become widespread that may help. Otherwise, I will have to go with a Sprint EPIC. I wish there were more quality QWERTY Android handsets on the market.
Mine actually works pretty well. I have the hinge issue, but thats it. Really I almost accept the hinge as being a non-spring loaded hinge, which makes it kinda cool that it doesn't need it.
If it did have something locking it into place, thats just something to break later on.
No software issue's here.
Hardware: No issues other than the crappy external speaker. My hinge is fairly tight and I have had the phone since Sept. 30th. I have to hold it by the screen and wiggle it quite a bit before the keyboard drops. Really not an issue.
Software: My phone gets in a state where it is on a black screen and will not respond to power button input. I have to remove the battery for the phone to respond to power button input. It has happened 3 time since the 30th, once on the first day with the phone being straight stock (no apps installed by me). It happens if the phone is left in sleep mode for a long time. If I am constantly using the phone as I am most of the time, I do not see this problem. I am half convinced that it is some of the embedded apps that run in the background all the time. IE: My Account, Photobucket, Finance and all that jazz. When I had my app killer set to thirty minutes I did not see the issue. Now that I have it kill apps when the screen turns off it doesn't kill the apps when left asleep for an extended period and the bug has reared its' ugly head twice since then.
Other than that I love this phone coming from the nexus one. Better data connectivity, better gps lock, way better screen, way better camera, ****tier audio recording quality.
Can't really complain.
I got mine on Oct 1. As far as I can tell, it's perfect. It rebooted once when I had been wandering around our building at work checking the coverage and running speed tests. I'd probably run the xtreme speedtest +30 times. Its been rock solid since and before.
I have no problems and no complaints.
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1. Turbo charger is insane
2. The screen is gorgeous
3. The battery will make a full day of work with heavy duty usage
4. Love the Moto voice
5. No Verizon logos
6. Love the looks, and the nylon back is awesome
7. I do believe the size is the sweet spot, my note's great for use, but not do much carrying it around, this beast is big enough even for my old eyes and disappears in your pocket
What else do you like about this phone?
It's very early in the turbo's life, yes I think a few things needs fixed, and I believe they will in time, reading these threads make it seem like a disaster of a phone, I'm saying there's more to love then hate.
I really don't have a problem with the phone. I'm still learning what it does. Like it telling me good afternoon and reading my text message to me today..lol
I use the phone for work and as a personal phone. The biggest thing for me getting the phone was the battery. I bought it yesterday so, I have only charged it once. When I snagged it at 7am this morning, I played Clash of Clans, checked my email, the weather ans played Spades. Bout 30 minutes. I then talked throughout the day for around 5 hours of talk time. Played COC a few more times for a couple minutes, checked emails, had google find me a FedEx box and navigate me to it and a few other random things. As I am right now, the battery is at 53%. THAT IS EFFING RETARDED!! I came from an S3. I had to charge it twice daily just to be able to make it home from work without it dying. I felt like that commercial against Apple where everyones at the airport hugging a wall. I was that guy..lol Ever gone to a college basketball game and found yourself next to the mens room charging your phone so you have enough juice to make a call on the way home in case of emergency?
I can hammer this phone with everything I got and it's going to make it through the day. I could ask for nothing more. Add in a 15 minute charge can get me 8 hours... wow.
Screen size is perfect, fabric back is cool and in a month or two I will have Lollipop and my Data and Voice at the same time back with VoLTE. I'm good to go.
Its basically the sexiest phone ever.
I was in the elevator, a lady wanted to have my babies because of the Turbo.
If thats not a job well done by Motorola, I dont knwo what is
This phone pretty much changed my life! Once I left the Verizon store and waddled over to Walmart, the chicks took notice immediately! The chicks noticed the tier 1 Kevlar on this phone so they immediately assumed I was a millionaire and asked to borrow money for something called meth?!? No way was I gonna give them money for whatever that stuff is cause they clearly needed soap way more. Once I gave them girls some soap money they drove off in their rascals into the night and that's when it happened, I caught a whiff of pall malls and mountain dew and from out of nowhere comes my dreamgirl! The sweatpants and flip flops she was wearing were just like the ones she was wearing in my dreams! Once we finished up our mickey D $1 doubles we shared a smoke and went back to my trailer and made sweet love. Thank you droid turbo!
What I like
No Verizon logos anywhere. Welcome change from my DROID DNA
Went from 2020 mAh to 3900 mAh. Battery is insane from what I'm used to
Build quality is great. My DNA creaked and flexed. The Turbo is rock solid
Moto Display is pretty cool and useful
Nearly stock Android is a huge plus
Much faster than my DNA. No stutters or lag
Charging is extremely fast and not needed often
There's plenty more but these are the most important to me.
The complaints I see, seem like they are coming from people who did not do their research, or otherwise cannot appreciate how awesome simple, stock Android is. But I agree with all of the above. Its a great phone.
I like that my wife doesn't complain about her phone anymore and tells me she's happy instead!
Just got mine at 4 this afternoon and setting up. Was really scared when I started reading all the posts about problems from Saturday to today, but coming from a DNA to this I can't seem to wipe the smile from my face.
All I can say is thank you Motorola for this great device.
My only complaint is the usb cable that came with it is too short.. But I like how it's got an indent so you can feel if you're plugging it in correctly in dark.
Coming from Samsung. I've got used to the left side back button. Wish I had a close all apps option.. Otherwise I love this effin phone....
Was a Motorola fan for years then switched to Samsung. There is something about Motorola that I love and the turbo is a wet dream come true!!!
pandimus said:
My only complaint is the usb cable that came with it is too short.. But I like how it's got an indent so you can feel if you're plugging it in correctly in dark.
Coming from Samsung. I've got used to the left side back button. Wish I had a close all apps option.. Otherwise I love this effin phone....
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that reverse back button will bite you in the ass..lol Im trying to get used to it. 3 years give or take with an S3 and my finger just goes there with my brain letting it happen. (to the wrong side)
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that reverse back button will bite you in the ass..lol Im trying to get used to it. 3 years give or take with an S3 and my finger just goes there with my brain letting it happen.
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Haha.. I'm adapting quick.. I was unrooting my s3 and kept hitting the menu button..
Well its good to see this thread. I was going to not buy this phone because of all the complaints. And I was going to get the nexus 6. But I have no clue when the nexus is coming out. Maybe I'll give this a try and if I don't like with within the 14 days I'll get the nexus if it's available or the note 4.
So I hit a little buyers remorse over the past day or two. I even tried to switch out for the Note 4, but it would cost me around $100 extra due to restocking fees and activation fees and blah blah. Maybe this will help.
The battery has been good. One charge a day keeps it going, and the turbo charge is spectacular. I'm coming from a SGS3 with a ZeroLemon 7000mAh battery, so I have to keep reminding myself that the battery life just wont compare.
The screen is beautiful, even if it is over saturated.
Ballistic Nylon FTW. Never had a phone where I don't immediately want to slap a case on it, although in my profession, it really really needs one.
Replacement screen is something every company should offer at least one time. I still hate microscratches, but it definitely gives me piece of mind that I don't have to run out and get a screen protector.
The camera is at least an upgrade.
Capacative buttons aren't really all that bad.
I made-do with a 32 gig micro sd card in my S3 for two years, so I guess I don't need expandable storage.
It really likes to go fast.
Lolz. Every forum on XDA fills up with complaints. The people who are enjoying their phones, which are usually the majority, are out doing other things. This is normal - I've been on here since 2006 and its always been like that. Squeaky wheel...
Likes:
Battery life (even though I'm still tweaking it)
Nearly vanilla android
great screen
no hard home button
super fast and smooth
size is good
Coming from a GS4 which I never really liked. I was missing my Galaxy Nexus goodness! I think the Turbo will serve me for quite a while as long as we get the bootloader unlocked.
I love this phone. I have had zero issues with it so far. Coming from an S4 this thing is amazing. Still learning stuff about it
Hopefully hibiese more forums to help us repair certain errors
xkape said:
that reverse back button will bite you in the ass..lol Im trying to get used to it. 3 years give or take with an S3 and my finger just goes there with my brain letting it happen. (to the wrong side)
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I was so happy when Cyanogenmod made on screen navigation buttons with the correct android layout an option. I can't stand that Samsung has switched them around from what Google intended. So in all, this has been an easier transition for me than most Samsung owners.
Here's a picture of my S4 with correct navigation buttons, taken with my Turbo.
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Lolz. Every forum on XDA fills up with complaints. The people who are enjoying their phones, which are usually the majority, are out doing other things. This is normal - I've been on here since 2006 and its always been like that. Squeaky wheel...
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This is so true..