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How to remove Knox?

Hey guys,
I am feeling like a total noob and am getting rather frustrated so please could somebody help me. I install this Samsung Knox app ting when I first got my Note 3 (N9005 - Non Rooted) and now I want it gone. I Do not know how to get rid of it and would be grateful if somebody showed me how.
I have tried googling and searching xda but found nothing
Many thanks in advance

Please do us a favor and put a question mark after your thread title. It appears as if you are showing us how to do it.
There is no way to remove Knox.

Han Solo 1 said:
Please do us a favor and put a question mark after your thread title. It appears as if you are showing us how to do it.
There is no way to remove Knox.
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Apologies, it was a typo.
Dam okay, thanks

Mikrouwel said:
Apologies, it was a typo.
Dam okay, thanks
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lol
Didn't mean to offend you bro. But there is no way to disable Knox without unlocking the bootloader first, at least that's what I've read online.

Han Solo 1 said:
lol
Didn't mean to offend you bro. But there is no way to disable Knox without unlocking the bootloader first, at least that's what I've read online.
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Okay thanks

I installed Knox also, and uninstalled it later without any problem.
Just log in in Knox, hit the menu button and hit uninstall.
It will uninstall Knox with every program installed with it.

white-note said:
I installed Knox also, and uninstalled it later without any problem.
Just log in in Knox, hit the menu button and hit uninstall.
It will uninstall Knox with every program installed with it.
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n1 didnt see that uninstalled now
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white-note said:
I installed Knox also, and uninstalled it later without any problem.
Just log in in Knox, hit the menu button and hit uninstall.
It will uninstall Knox with every program installed with it.
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But will this also prevent knox from stopping applications trying to modify system files?

white-note said:
I installed Knox also, and uninstalled it later without any problem.
Just log in in Knox, hit the menu button and hit uninstall.
It will uninstall Knox with every program installed with it.
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The uninstall button on my menu is greyed out
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mine was to but then I pressed the info or about button and its there
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk 2

I'm installing again, see what happens....
EDIT...
After installing Knox is active.
So, Hit the menu button, Than "Knox settings", and than "About Knox".
There is a Delete button.
I have no problem deleting for the second time.
But will this also prevent knox from stopping applications trying to modify system files?
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I don't think so.
I gess it's two different things, the Knox app, and besides that the safety settings in the firmware Samsung made.
Even if you don't install Knox, your Knox counter will raise if you Root your phone or if you Flash it.

Mikrouwel said:
The uninstall button on my menu is greyed out
Sent from my Note 3 using Tapatalk
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You might need to uncheck Knox under settings>general>security>device administrators before you can uninstall it.
I think this will only remove the interface to Knox though, as I believe the implementation is very low level.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using xda app-developers app

So theres no way to reset the count like it has been done on note 2 with using triangle away. But thats a rooted app so are you speaking on US or Int'l note 3. Trying to understand more about knox before I purchase my note 3 instore tomorrow. Searched online and is the knox a security app? Do you have to activate it or is it free will? Please anyone explain thanks.
*Note 3*

white-note said:
I installed Knox also, and uninstalled it later without any problem.
Just log in in Knox, hit the menu button and hit uninstall.
It will uninstall Knox with every program installed with it.
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Thanks!!!!!

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Mikrouwel said:
Hey guys,
I am feeling like a total noob and am getting rather frustrated so please could somebody help me. I install this Samsung Knox app ting when I first got my Note 3 (N9005 - Non Rooted) and now I want it gone. I Do not know how to get rid of it and would be grateful if somebody showed me how.
I have tried googling and searching xda but found nothing
Many thanks in advance
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Solved jus hit 20 time wrong passwordd n knox will delete n unintall itself

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Mikrouwel said:
Hey guys,
I am feeling like a total noob and am getting rather frustrated so please could somebody help me. I install this Samsung Knox app ting when I first got my Note 3 (N9005 - Non Rooted) and now I want it gone. I Do not know how to get rid of it and would be grateful if somebody showed me how.
I have tried googling and searching xda but found nothing
Many thanks in advance
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Go to the knox mode, and then go to knox setting by pressing the menu button. There you will find the ABOUT button. Click on that button, there you will find uninstall button.
Thanks

skally said:
You might need to uncheck Knox under settings>general>security>device administrators before you can uninstall it.
I think this will only remove the interface to Knox though, as I believe the implementation is very low level.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using xda app-developers app
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It wont let me do this. You can "uninstall" Knox and get it back to how it was before setup (knox partition removed, back to having to install it again to re-knox), but you cannot AFAICT uninstall it completely, because its setup as a device administrator. You also cannot stop it being a device admin, even if its unticked, application manager wont uninstall as its device admin.
I wouldnt mind, but the knox process (as shown by CPU timelines pro) uses 10% of CPU power 24/7, which seems a bit naff when im not even using it. Im unsure if thats 10% of the current CPU speed (which might be virtually sleeping), or 10% max...
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yes, you can uninstall knox
Knox is a security feature which Samsung has created for Android versions 4.3 onwards,
It is a very clever mechanism, by which Samsung are hoping to grab the Mobile Device Management market from blackberry. As businesses are trying to get used to the Bring Your Own Device world we live in, there has increasingly been a call for device management, i.e that a business i.t administrator can control the data-flow and policy of all devices.
Knox, installs as a container, it is basically a second phone, with separate media, homescreens, email, apps etc, so that on your personal phone you can have a secure section for work or private matters.
It is optional to install, and to uninstall you have to go into Knox itself, hit menu, settings, about knox, uninstall.
enjoy.

If I don't install knox (dont have my phone yet) then I still get flagged when I root? Or do you only get flagged when knox is installed?
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efjbdejong said:
If I don't install knox (dont have my phone yet) then I still get flagged when I root? Or do you only get flagged when knox is installed?
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You will get the Knox 0x1 flag if you don't use a save way to root the phone. It doesn't matter if you activate the Knox feature.

To root s3 LTE on android 4.3

I updated my phone today and I was able to root it an disable KNOX.
I used CF-Autoroot http://autoroot.chainfire.eu/ and it worked flawlessly and when I was updating the binary I got the option to disable KNOX.
Root Instruction:
1. Flash with Odin
2. Add a google account incase it has not been setup yet.
3. Install SuperSU from Market.
4. Open it and it wil ask you to update binary.
Respect to the developer.
Futhermore, I got CWM with one of the methods I was using when on JB 4.1.2
PLS NOTE: You will lose warranty if phone is rooted at this time. If you will like to keep your warranty with no possibility to go back to an older android version, please AVOID rooting your ROM and wait for custom ROM with KNOX disabled

Cheers,
But.. I don't know whether to use the i9305 or I9305T files :/
My device is I9305T but has been running I9305 FW (and probably bootloaders) for a while...

For those who need some more links/instructions:
Backup your data, SMS, settings - and make sure you got an IMEI backup
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1946915
If you use Google's 2-Step Verification, make sure you can receive the SMS via a 2nd phone or have a backup option like landline or authenticator app.
I removed my SD card (just in case) and did a full system wipe just to get rid of everything I did to my system over the last year:
Hold down volume up, home and power buttons, when screen turns on, leave these buttons, do the full system wipe. (Don't think this is really necessary though.)
Install 4.3 on your i9305
http://www.androidegis.com/how-to/install-android-4-3-update-galaxy-s3-lte-i9305/
Switch the phone off after first book (at SIM PIN prompt).
Get CF-Auto-Root and install it
EDIT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957273
Now after your phone booted you can run the Samsung setup. Add your Google account.
Install SuperSU from the Play Store - not SuperUser
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.supersu&hl=en
Update the binary and disable KNOX
Enjoy

For me what worked, was installing PhilZ Touch (latest version), and using the built-in rooting function of the recovery. Then, installing SuperSU gave me perfect root.
Does anyone know if Koush's superuser app works in any way in this release? I would prefer to use an open-source superuser app.

gulbrillo said:
For those who need some more links/instructions:
Backup your data, SMS, settings - and make sure you got an IMEI backup
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1946915
If you use Google's 2-Step Verification, make sure you can receive the SMS via a 2nd phone or have a backup option like landline or authenticator app.
I removed my SD card (just in case) and did a full system wipe just to get rid of everything I did to my system over the last year:
Hold down volume up, home and power buttons, when screen turns on, leave these buttons, do the full system wipe. (Don't think this is really necessary though.)
Install 4.3 on your i9305
http://www.androidegis.com/how-to/install-android-4-3-update-galaxy-s3-lte-i9305/
Switch the phone off after first book (at SIM PIN prompt).
Get CF-Auto-Root and install it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2219803
Now after your phone booted you can run the Samsung setup. Add your Google account.
Install SuperSU from the Play Store - not SuperUser
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.supersu&hl=en
Update the binary and disable KNOX
Enjoy
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Did you mean to link the [GT-I9505 + GT-I9505G] CF-Auto-Root page, or should we get the file from [GT-I930x/T/N][SHV-E210*][SHW-M440S] CF-Auto-Root?

Damn, sorry - that was my mistake. I just changed the link above - it should have been http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957273 of cause. Thanks!
aaronsclee said:
Did you mean to link the [GT-I9505 + GT-I9505G] CF-Auto-Root page, or should we get the file from [GT-I930x/T/N][SHV-E210*][SHW-M440S] CF-Auto-Root?
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I don't understand if this method preserves the warranty.

No , it doesn't . By flashing CF-Root you will get Knox count 1 .

seaman5705 said:
No , it doesn't . By flashing CF-Root you will get Knox count 1 .
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Uh. I think, at this point, that the best thing (for me) is to not update.

Update using Heimdall, and skip flashing tz.img and sboot.bin. Be aware that this will break WiFi until a custom kernel is released
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I prefer to wait until a solution will be find.

lallolu said:
I updated my phone today and I was able to root it an disable KNOX.
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Thanks for sharing this interesting experience.
But I think it would be kind of you to edit the OP to say in a very visible way that someone doing that looses his warranty with no possibility to go back at this time (until a solution is found, but no one knows if this will ever be the case ...) because of the new Knox bootloader and the new Knox warranty void flag.

Ed Roid said:
Thanks for sharing this interesting experience.
But I think it would be kind of you to edit the OP to say in a very visible way that someone doing that looses his warranty with no possibility to go back at this time (until a solution is found, but no one knows if this will ever be the case ...) because of the new Knox bootloader and the new Knox warranty void flag.
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Thanks mate for clarifying the issue of Knox flag and warranty. I will wait for a dev to make Knox-free rom.

if you'd like to have 4.3 stock rom with root and warranty, you can update your phone to 4.3 using Mobile Odin PRO latest version (3.85). Let's say you're on 4.1.2, just download 4.3 for your phone, move it to phone storage, flash it using Mobile Odin PRO with EverRoot and Inject Mobile Odin features. This way you'll have a 4.3 rooted in warranty.

steebro said:
This way you'll have a 4.3 rooted in warranty.
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4.3 stock + root + warranty ok but no wifi, am i right ?

Ed Roid said:
Thanks for sharing this interesting experience.
But I think it would be kind of you to edit the OP to say in a very visible way that someone doing that looses his warranty with no possibility to go back at this time (until a solution is found, but no one knows if this will ever be the case ...) because of the new Knox bootloader and the new Knox warranty void flag.
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Thanks for pointing that out. I have updated the OP.

steebro said:
if you'd like to have 4.3 stock rom with root and warranty, you can update your phone to 4.3 using Mobile Odin PRO latest version (3.85). Let's say you're on 4.1.2, just download 4.3 for your phone, move it to phone storage, flash it using Mobile Odin PRO with EverRoot and Inject Mobile Odin features. This way you'll have a 4.3 rooted in warranty.
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For sure?
I've buy the Pro Version ( in this moment the version is only working with this Mobile ( nobody knows, at which time the support will be stopped ) ).
I don't want see, that Knox is incr. from 0x0 to 0x1 with this procedure ....
THX

Wesie said:
For sure?
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I think I've read that Mobile Odin isn't able to flash the bootloader. If this is really the case then it is true (old bootloader = no Knox flag). Note that you will also need to flash a custom kernel cause stock 4.3 kernel without Knox bootloader breaks wifi.

SHV-E210K
how can you root SHV-E210K with official 4.3 firmware?

Ed Roid said:
that someone doing that looses his warranty with no possibility to go back at this time because of the new Knox bootloader and the new Knox warranty void flag.
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What about triangle away? (Or downgrading to a earlier stock Knox free ROM and than triangleing away?)

[Q] Knox Reset??!!

Hello all,
First post here, and this question is what literally made me sign up.
So when root for the VZW Note 3 came out naturally i was one to jump right aboard for titanium backup. Well one thing led to another and details are not important but just reflashed the stock J7 image and one power cycle later i noticed that my KNOX was gone. By this i mean that the boot screen that says Galaxy Note 3, used to have the Custom and unlocked at the bottom of it, but since reflashing with stock is gone.
biggest question is, is this for real, or could verizon in theory see data that we can not and notice that is was at one time tripped.
I know i had read things in the past that once that KNOX Counter is tripped its your new forever friend.. anyone else had anything like this happen??
Thanks for being a great website and keep up the great work!

I dont believe if it is stock that there is any sort of lock on the boot screen
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Darth Pewee said:
Hello all,
First post here, and this question is what literally made me sign up.
So when root for the VZW Note 3 came out naturally i was one to jump right aboard for titanium backup. Well one thing led to another and details are not important but just reflashed the stock J7 image and one power cycle later i noticed that my KNOX was gone. By this i mean that the boot screen that says Galaxy Note 3, used to have the Custom and unlocked at the bottom of it, but since reflashing with stock is gone.
biggest question is, is this for real, or could verizon in theory see data that we can not and notice that is was at one time tripped.
I know i had read things in the past that once that KNOX Counter is tripped its your new forever friend.. anyone else had anything like this happen??
Thanks for being a great website and keep up the great work!
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Knox sees bootloader, kernel, and recovery. If you flash any of those, the phone wont boot and it will trip knox. Safestrap bypasses knox because it doesnt replace the recovery and it doesnt flash kernels. The "custom unlocked" icon was saying that the software on your device isnt stock, but this doesnt necessarily mean that knox was tripped. I have a custom rom on my phone with no custom unlocked on mine.

i hadnt used anything like Safestrap, all i did was flash the image that came out allowing root with odin way back when... and i noticed i had the custom unlocked icon.
i guess the way i understood is once that is on the boot screen the knox counter was tripped, if that is not the case im a very happy person.
i was doing all this looking around when KNOX was first found out about i believe. I may have to research again and see what the findings are about KNOX
Thanks for the explanations!

Just rooting it can cause the lock on boot but it does not trip knox. I am stock rooted. Installed Triangle Away to effectively hide the lock on boot. However when you dig deep into about phone it will show as custom. Again - my knox is all good.
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Your phone booting and showing "Custom" under Samsung boot logo is unrelated to Knox. It means custom firmware/modification (rooted most likely). FYI, this was not when Knox was "discovered", knox was out on the Galaxy S4 a year ago....6 months before Note 3 was even announced. Maybe you meant something different.... However, Knox status is determined as shiftr said before, and to see the actual Knox warranty status, power down your phone, and then press and hold volume-down, home-button, and power button all at the same time. Then when the warning screen pops up, press volume up to continue. This will put you into Odin Mode (or Download Mode). What you're looking for here is where is says "Knox Warranty Void: ...." If your status is 0x1 then you have tripped knox and voided your warranty permanently. If it says 0x0 then you're still in the clear. That "custom" logo you saw during boot will also show as "custom" up above here under "system status" as well. However, when you do a full Odin back to stock image, you will set that status back to "Official". It will usually still show custom on the first boot, but then after the second boot will go away (which is what you noticed when it disappeared). However even flashing stock Odin image will still not repair any Knox warranty status. If that tripped, there is currently no going back. Hope this helps clear things up. :good:

Thanks!
i had gone into the "odin" mode just yesterday and had seen that my KNOX is 0x0. I just had misread when i was rooting, but seems it has been cleared up now probably not going to worry about root until the Kit Kat update
Thanks again everyone for clearing my confused mind!

As I understand it you check knox by booting into download mode. Is that right? Ok, once in download mode how do you get out of it? Thanks.
Sent from my Hyperdriven Note 3

recDNA said:
As I understand it you check knox by booting into download mode. Is that right? Ok, once in download mode how do you get out of it? Thanks.
Sent from my Hyperdriven Note 3
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Should be able to just reboot the phone

Darth Pewee said:
Should be able to just reboot the phone
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I'm sorry to be so dumb but how do you reboot from within download mode?
Sent from my Hyperdriven Note 3

recDNA said:
I'm sorry to be so dumb but how do you reboot from within download mode?
Sent from my Hyperdriven Note 3
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No worries, just hold volume down and power until the screen goes black it will reboot at that point

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No worries, just hold volume down and power until the screen goes black it will reboot at that point
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Oh, I thought it was just volume down. Duh.
Sent from my Hyperdriven Note 3

Darth Pewee said:
No worries, just hold volume down and power until the screen goes black it will reboot at that point
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When I went into download mode it said downloading do not shut off. Power vol down only rebooted back into download mode. I was in safestrap slot 1 hyperdrive 7. Did it actually download anything? I hope I didn't download any of the ota! I was able to get back to Hyperdrive by pulling the battery but how would I know if anything downloaded? The kitkat ota would brick my phone.
Sent from my Hyperdriven Note 3

No it didn't download any of the ota, download mode is for use with Odin, and does not use any networks while in that mode.

Please Help Guys

Hi Guys,
I'm basically knox free im on 4.2.2, can anyone give me
a: a brief guide to easiest way of rooting and installing a recovery i.e TW or CWM, hopefully one click solution?
b: If I go onto 4.4 kitkat will I have to have a knox bootloader even with a custom rom?, if so is 4.4 worth it?.
c: &
d:Mod Edit removed due to asking for best ROM ( not allowed on xda)
At the moment main thing I want to do is safely root and install recovery without triggering knox as I want the chance to install custom roms and not void my warranty as I can always use triangle away at a later date.
BTW have done a lot of reading but want to be 100% sure and would really like some experienced advice.
Many thanks
Mav

a) Use Saferoot -> HERE
b) TWRP -> All info HERE
c) and d) Try it by yourself. Read the rules of XDA too :highfive:

Thanks
but a few things, will rooting cause the knox to come on?, as im confused also how do i know if my bootloader is locked or not?, if it does make the bootloader custom can I change it back?.
Thanks

Mod Edit
You may continue with this thread , but please do not ask for best ROMS.
Saferoot , AFAIK , does not trip knox flag
malybru
Forum Moderator

maverick7777 said:
Thanks
but a few things, will rooting cause the knox to come on?, as im confused also how do i know if my bootloader is locked or not?, if it does make the bootloader custom can I change it back?.
Thanks
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If you have an old bootloader you won't even have KNOX on it, lucky you.
If you have the new bootloader, it comes with KNOX.
You can check if you have a new or old bootloader by putting your phone in Download mode (Volume down + Home + Power buttons).
If the the top left corner is syas stuff like "KNOX warenty" etc. you have the new one.
Rooting using saferoot as mentioned earlier will not trigger KNOX anyways.
Installing a custom Recovery as well as installing a custom ROM will trigger KNOX (if you indeed have the new bootloader with KNOX offcourse).

OMG!!!! just screwed up my blacklisted imei g930p. it is now stuck

I was trying to make sure my KNOX counter wasnt tripped before I ordered the services being provided by imeigurus.com I thought I could just check and return to the home screen. not the case. what do I do please help. I dont know what im doing.
I foolishly did the following:
**YOUR DEVICE CAN NOT HAVE TRIPPED KNOX*** KNOX COUNTER MUST BE 0X000
FIND THAT BY POWERING YOUR DEVICE OFF.
please take it easy on me when you reply. I now realize how STUPID it was for me to do something without knowing what I was doing in the first place.

You seem to have some issue you're not describing at all.
About knox tho all you need to do is boot the phone into bootloader mode, or download a knox checker app from play store.
Honestly unless your flashing roms and kernels or custom recovery to the phone, or if you rooted it in any way except by using the engineering version bootloader, your not going to have tripped knox. If you have tripped knox you cant untrip it. It is an actual fuse in the phone that literally blows. All the knox counter really does is check if the fuse is blown and counts the number of times unauthorised changes were made to the system.

rayne980 said:
I was trying to make sure my KNOX counter wasnt tripped before I ordered the services being provided by imeigurus.com I thought I could just check and return to the home screen. not the case. what do I do please help. I dont know what im doing.
I foolishly did the following:
**YOUR DEVICE CAN NOT HAVE TRIPPED KNOX*** KNOX COUNTER MUST BE 0X000
FIND THAT BY POWERING YOUR DEVICE OFF.
please take it easy on me when you reply. I now realize how STUPID it was for me to do something without knowing what I was doing in the first place.
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What do you mean by you can't return to the home screen. Have you tried holding the power, home button and volume down button until the phone restarts. And what djdunn said is correct and you haven't fully explained the problem for people to fully help you.