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[Q] No DUN no ADHOC rant.....Honeycomb 3.1?

So all of our phones with Wifi hotspot features create an ADHOC connection which Honeycomb does not support. Same goes with Bluetooth, no DUN. Google what the hell? Ya ya,carriers this and carriers that but what about people paying for hotspot features on the phone. I have customers that I need to setup to pair with the TF but it seems nothing will work without rooting and that can be phone specific. So the TF is great as long as you are close to a WIFI connection is supports?
If I'm missing something someone please fill me in.
~DC

think it depends on phone my desire HD works fine

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combat goofwing said:
think it depends on phone my desire HD works fine
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Are you rooted?
Are you simply pairing or using another app on your phone?
Can you run through your connection steps?
Thanks,
~DC

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But why would they do this knowing what the phones support?
~DC

I am using the hotspot feature on my Evo, and I've been tethering to it at work since the day I got my Transformer. I'm not doing anything special, just turning on the hotspot and letting the TF connect. Now, my Evo is rooted with a ROM that "unlocks" the hotspot functionality so I'm not paying extra, and I'm not using the Wireless Tether app, but it's the same concept.

dfin13 said:
I am using the hotspot feature on my Evo, and I've been tethering to it at work since the day I got my Transformer. I'm not doing anything special, just turning on the hotspot and letting the TF connect. Now, my Evo is rooted with a ROM that "unlocks" the hotspot functionality so I'm not paying extra, and I'm not using the Wireless Tether app, but it's the same concept.
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The hotspot feature on your ROM is supporting a true wifi connection and not peer to peer adhoc. I can't always root customers phones.
~DC

I may be misunderstanding how it works, but this isn't a wireless tether baked into the ROM, it's the built-in Sprint hotspot feature that I'm using, just unlocked so I don't have to pay extra. If someone was paying for the hotspot feature on Sprint, they wouldn't need root, but maybe this is only the case with Sprint's implementation.

i was able to do both wifi and bluetooth tethering. took me a while to figure out, (since i've never done it before, less due to the difficulty of doing it)
assuming the phone supports Bluetooth tethering, it should always work.

I have a DroidX and I can tether using the built in stock Hotspot feature or with Bluetooth. However, I can't tether using an ad hoc connection because I get an error stating that the device doesn't support ad hoc connections...
So, it is definitely device specific and it will be something the carriers remove as many report being able to do so with root (my device is rooted and I can't connect via ad hoc - although, I haven't d/l or tried out the pdaNet app).
I will also add that the bluetooth tethering has worked MUCH better than the wifi - easier/faster to connect, runs pretty fast, and my phone doesn't overheat as much....

Works fine with my evo. The Evo has proper infrastructure wifi hotspot.
Maybe the users need to update their phones?

I went into a store to try a tf and there was no internet so I turned on my WiFi hotspot on my sgsII and it worked perfectly fine, not sure if that's the same as you're asking but that works.

jerrykur said:
Works fine with my evo. The Evo has proper infrastructure wifi hotspot.
Maybe the users need to update their phones?
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Are you rooted?
~DC

Any HTC thunderbolt users reading this that have tried hotspot?
~DC

a lot of clarification
Hi all,
I need your help, understanding ... well everything about wifi/TF/WM6.5/adhoc and whatever the other connection is?
I don't think of myself as a noob, but to be honest I'm lost with the wifi on the TF. So here it goes: I have TF and HD2. Under WM6.5 I can't get the TF to see the shared internet through the "wifi router" application on the phone. But then I run a custom Desire HD ROM and this one (can't remember the application) shares and gives access to the TF?!?!
First off, which is which? Which is adhoc and which is infrastructure? And what is the difference (sorry i did look on the internet, but that got me confused even more because I could not see any difference). Are you saying that a standard (not rooted Android) will have the same problem? I was thinking of switching to an android phone so that I can get the easy sharing option, but if I have to root a brand new phone????
Any help will be appreciated,
rio

Easy way to tether off a rooted phone.
Install one of the older versions of wireless tether that supports bluetooth.
Turn on the bluetooth DUN on wireless tether.
Hit ok when it asks to turn on Bluetooth and make discoverable.
On the transformer go to settings-wireless-bluetooth
Scan for your device and pair.
Once paired you should see a little wrench next to your device, click on it
Under Profiles, it should show tethering with a checkbox. Click this and in a few seconds Wireless tether should buzz its connected and off you go.
I've been able to tether my transformer like this since out of the box.
Edit - BTW I've tried this with PDAnet and other non rooted tehtering programs, and I couldn't get it to work with those options. Just FYI

the difference between ad-hoc and infrastructure is the way devices communicate.
infrastructure is kinda like the way we send messages via the post office. we send it to a central place, then it figures out how to deliver the message. this is how true routers operate
ad-hoc is peer-to-peer. imagine passing notes back in elementary school.
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some phones comes with a tethering app without having to root, but this typically requires you to pay extra fee to your carrier ($30 for sprint)
if you don't want to pay that, then you have to root your phone to either get a rom that already supports infrastructure mode, or download an app that does. [ ie Wifi Tether ]

people googling "honeycomb dun" would be incredibly misinformed by this thread.

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people googling "honeycomb dun" would be incredibly misinformed by this thread.
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You are right. I put Honeycomb 3.1 in the title but forgot to mention in the OP if anyone heard that 3.1 would have support for DUN or Ad Hoc.
Sorry for any confusion I might have caused
~DC

Edit: I posted misinformation.

Using Evo 4G with Zoom 4501 Router can you?

Hello all,
Here is my deal and hopefully someone can help.. I have an Evo 4g.. currently I do not have internet in my home (cable started getting to pricey in my area) and have rooted my phone and have been using the wifi tether app. However, I want to also share connection with other devices throughout my home, ie, 2 laptops, 1 desktop, 1 xbox360 so I purchased this Zoom 4501 wireless N router that works with 3G/4G, wifi, cable etc..
Now, I was able to connect my phone to the usb port on the router, go through the setup wizard and and was able to actually get the router up and running however, the only way to do it is by turning on the usb tether option in the settings menu.. it only works on 3G and not 4G.. when I turn on the 4G option, it says that I do have an account with sprint.. is there any other way around this? If anyone can help, let me know thanks!

Yea just steal ur neighbors wireless internet
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Yea just steal ur neighbors wireless internet
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C'mon man.. I'm looking for a legit solution... besides... theirs is encrypted....

Just get a wireless extender and connect all the devices to that.
EVO)))))))))Wireless extender ))))))))all your devices(no device limit) + ethernet.
http://3gstore.com/product/1813_pepwave-surf-mini-200.html I use it with my sprint mifi because I connect more than 9 devices when I'm at work. (grandfathered unlimited plan ) and the mifi only allows for 5

Hey thanks.. just got it to work, just purchased this... http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354515
seems to work pretty well... thanks for the info guys...

Just make sure only the router is connected to the evo with encryption, everything else will be handled by the repeater

Buy a router that you can put tomatousb firmware on it. Then configure the wireless as wireless bridge or client to the evo's wireless tether. Works great for me when the times my internet is down.

[Q] Internet on the N7

Firstly, I'm from India. We don't got no Newegg here
I don't have any WiFi router/Android phone etc. First foray into Android w/ this N7.
Should I get a WiFi router or a MiFi device? Or a 3G dongle-supporting router?
Also, if there are any Kolkatans here please tell me where I can find free WiFi (McDonalds' excluded).

Mifi device sounds great since you have the options.... they're portable and allow you to use your tablet wherever you go... if the data plan is good and the speed is good of course

Just get a wireless router for your internet at home. You say you don't have an android phone, and it's a shame. I turn on the mobile hotspot feature of my phone and use my N7 on the go. It's really awesome.

Visa Declined said:
Just get a wireless router for your internet at home. You say you don't have an android phone, and it's a shame. I turn on the mobile hotspot feature of my phone and use my N7 on the go. It's really awesome.
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I'm a 14YO kid, sir

Reverse Tether + Re Tether = How do I do it?

Basically I want to share my PC's internet to my Android phone via USB and then share the Android's internet to other WiFi enbled appliances via Android's WiFi as a hotspot.
PC Internet >>>--[USB]---> Android phone >>>--[WiFi Hotspot]--> WiFi clients
I progressed upto Reverse WiFi Tether where I can share my PC internet on my Android phone using USB connection but then enabling the WiFi hotspot on the Android phone doesn't share this internet to other WiFi clients (although the hotspot works and client's can connect, but no internet access/data transfer).
For those wondering why would I dig a pond to fill it;
a. I don't have WiFi (trans)receiver on my PC;
b. My Android phone doesn't have a RJ45 port;
For those even wondering: I don't want to buy a WiFi (trans)receiver for my PC either.

SKJoy2001 said:
Basically I want to share my PC's internet to my Android phone via USB and then share the Android's internet to other WiFi enbled appliances via Android's WiFi as a hotspot.
PC Internet >>>--[USB]---> Android phone >>>--[WiFi Hotspot]--> WiFi clients
I progressed upto Reverse WiFi Tether where I can share my PC internet on my Android phone using USB connection but then enabling the WiFi hotspot on the Android phone doesn't share this internet to other WiFi clients (although the hotspot works and client's can connect, but no internet access/data transfer).
For those wondering why would I dig a pond to fill it;
a. I don't have WiFi (trans)receiver on my PC;
b. My Android phone doesn't have a RJ45 port;
For those even wondering: I don't want to buy a WiFi (trans)receiver for my PC either.
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I'm not sure how to go about doing that, it might be cheaper just to go buy a cheap wireless router.
Any idea how to do the opposite? I want to use my phone to connect to a wireless network and send the network connection back to my computer that doesn't have WI-fi.

It might just be cheaper to buy a wifi card for your computer.
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Reilly1812 said:
It might just be cheaper to buy a wifi card for your computer.
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As soon as I can figure out how to stick a wifi card on my pi

How u Can reverse tethering place mentioned all steps plzzzzz
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lgoldstein said:
As soon as I can figure out how to stick a wifi card on my pi
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Curious. What does it have for networking?
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Curious. What does it have for networking?
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It just has an on board RJ45 Network connection. The problem that I'm running into is I want to use it to stream movies onto my TV in the living room, but my router is located in the kitchen and the wife has told me I'm not allowed to run a network cable across her house

lgoldstein said:
It just has an on board RJ45 Network connection. The problem that I'm running into is I want to use it to stream movies onto my TV in the living room, but my router is located in the kitchen and the wife has told me I'm not allowed to run a network cable across her house
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On a train for another hour at least. I will reply after I get to the office. Pretty sure Cisco/Linksys makes a box that gives you wifi access via RJ45. Have one and I know it works. Just not sure of vendor and model.
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Sorry - long day. Try a Linksys wireless bridge. I have the WET610N. Newer models on their website.
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I don't want to buy a router + I don't want to buy an access point... Why? I have enough of them
I just want to make an android a WiFi router (not for mobile data please) or a WiFi extender...
How... how... how...

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Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate x64

SKJoy2001 said:
Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate x64
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You must have seen my post before changing to delete. Had an idea that I then rejected.
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Plz say something about reverse tethering.
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Wi-Fi Sharing (Like Samsung)

Coming from Sammy that has offered a "Wi-Fi" sharing" feature for years I am really missing it on my OnePlus.
This feature allows you to keep your WiFi AND HotSpot on at the same time. It allows you to connect you Samsung to the hotels WiFi and then connect other devices (such as Chromecast) to your WiFi sharing Samsung phone that is using the Hotels WiFi and not your mobile data.
Does anyone know of a way to get this working on the phone? I have looked on the playstore but only found ones that work for a PCs.
Thaanks

CrozB said:
Coming from Sammy that has offered a "Wi-Fi" sharing" feature for years I am really missing it on my OnePlus.
This feature allows you to keep your WiFi AND HotSpot on at the same time. It allows you to connect you Samsung to the hotels WiFi and then connect other devices (such as Chromecast) to your WiFi sharing Samsung phone that is using the Hotels WiFi and not your mobile data.
Does anyone know of a way to get this working on the phone? I have looked on the playstore but only found ones that work for a PCs.
Thaanks
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Hey so it ends up the OnePlus actually has that already. Go to developer options and go to networking and you'll see WiFi coverage extend feature.

cgibbons51 said:
Go to developer options and go to networking and you'll see WiFi coverage extend feature.
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Thank you, that is a nice find.

cgibbons51 said:
Hey so it ends up the OnePlus actually has that already. Go to developer options and go to networking and you'll see WiFi coverage extend feature.
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. Did you get it to work? I enabled this feature but as soon as I turn on Hotspot it turns off my WiFi. If I turn WiFi back on, it kills hotspot. . Maybe I am missing something?

Same here. After enabling that extend option, turning on hotspot still kills wifi.

Just curious... If your phone is on WiFi.. Why would you need hotspot? Why not just put the 2nd device on the same WiFi your phone is on...

SteelH said:
Just curious... If your phone is on WiFi.. Why would you need hotspot? Why not just put the 2nd device on the same WiFi your phone is on...
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it's for traveling purposes it's not so easy to connect a Chromecast to a hotel Wi-Fi. It's very nice to have your phone be your access point for all of your devices like your computer your Chromecast Etc. and especially with the Chromecast since it really isn't possible to do the login page on a Chromecast. With Samsung's Wi-Fi share feature it works seamlessly the Chromecast connect to the Samsung hotspot while Samsung is connected to the hotel's Wi-Fi and I can control all of the Chromecast casting right from Samsung

CrozB said:
it's for traveling purposes it's not so easy to connect a Chromecast to a hotel Wi-Fi. It's very nice to have your phone be your access point for all of your devices like your computer your Chromecast Etc. and especially with the Chromecast since it really isn't possible to do the login page on a Chromecast. With Samsung's Wi-Fi share feature it works seamlessly the Chromecast connect to the Samsung hotspot while Samsung is connected to the hotel's Wi-Fi and I can control all of the Chromecast casting right from Samsung
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I figured there was a scenario where it made sense, I just wasnt aware, thanks for the info.