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Got a Vibrant yesterday to "try out" the android world for the first time. Must say I'm impressed by the phones performance out of the box even with all the bloatware and crap on it. I've been a windows mobile guy for quite some time now, so the people that know both platforms well, know they are two completely different monsters. My two options were the hd2 (since i know the WM world pretty well) or learn a whole new platform with the vibrant.
I like it so far, but also miss some of the things from WM (or rather miss knowing my phone well). I guess i just have to start from zero and get acquainted with it first.
Any suggestions on getting the bare down scoop of the platform and such as far as learning it from the ground up? The sticky explains how to do these things, but I need something more basic...I just wanna become proficient in the android world as I am in the WM world starting from zero.
Its hard to say where to start, the best thing about android is the customization. Playing with phone is the only way you are gonna learn, I have been an android owner since day one and am still learning new things everyday. If there is something I don't know I simply come here since this is the best android community on the web. Hope you enjoy IMO the best android phone on the market.
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Yeah, really not that much to help with...everything seems pretty intuitive to me. When in doubt, long press or press menu.
My first questions were always like:
Sweet I have Avatar on here, what else Can I put on?
Oh damn, there's only a 2GB Card, and if I remove it, I lose Avatar.
WTF is amazon kindle for? I don't need this? How can I remove Bloats?
That's where I started off, you're most likely going to want to root it. Search the forums around. There's some great stickies to follow by and just go with that.
Can't wait for CM? Learn to make your own APP to have fun with ;p
phragg said:
My first questions were always like:
Sweet I have Avatar on here, what else Can I put on?
Oh damn, there's only a 2GB Card, and if I remove it, I lose Avatar.
WTF is amazon kindle for? I don't need this? How can I remove Bloats?
That's where I started off, you're most likely going to want to root it. Search the forums around. There's some great stickies to follow by and just go with that.
Can't wait for CM? Learn to make your own APP to have fun with ;p
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Well, kindle isn't that bad considering you can get a ton of free books for it.
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phragg said:
My first questions were always like:
Sweet I have Avatar on here, what else Can I put on?
Oh damn, there's only a 2GB Card, and if I remove it, I lose Avatar.
WTF is amazon kindle for? I don't need this? How can I remove Bloats?
That's where I started off, you're most likely going to want to root it. Search the forums around. There's some great stickies to follow by and just go with that.
Can't wait for CM? Learn to make your own APP to have fun with ;p
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Well, you could always copy Avatar onto a larger card and then go wild! That's what I did, it will play lots of 720p mkv's that you might have laying around no problem!
Long press and menu are your friends. Other than that look here on xda and use the search function. The stickies typically have the most current info.
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phragg said:
My first questions were always like:
Sweet I have Avatar on here, what else Can I put on?
Oh damn, there's only a 2GB Card, and if I remove it, I lose Avatar.
WTF is amazon kindle for? I don't need this? How can I remove Bloats?
That's where I started off, you're most likely going to want to root it. Search the forums around. There's some great stickies to follow by and just go with that.
Can't wait for CM? Learn to make your own APP to have fun with ;p
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what is CM?
I am a programmer by profession. Maybe I could look into the world of android programming too while im at it
phragg said:
My first questions were always like:
Sweet I have Avatar on here, what else Can I put on?
Oh damn, there's only a 2GB Card, and if I remove it, I lose Avatar.
WTF is amazon kindle for? I don't need this? How can I remove Bloats?
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I didn't have those questions. I mean the first thing i did was move avatar to my 16gb msdhc into it and go wild with my music, photo, and videos...which I'm amazed how good of sound/video quality i get on this.
I thought more of like where do how do I view flash websites, how do i stream live .pls live music streams, or smaller things like hiding apps from the notification area at the top left when they are running, or resizing certain widgets, removing some of the applications that came with the phone from t mobile, mapping buttons to do different things based on holding them down or tapping a certain amount of times, things like that that aren't explained in the user manual. Or even like right now, I'm trying to make a call and it says: "Call not sent"...well? whyyyyyyyyy? so many questions!
I don't know, I guess all this is just part of the familiarization process and will sooner or later find them out whether by experience or hunting down resources why certain behaviors and actions happen.
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Long press and menu are your friends. Other than that look here on xda and use the search function. The stickies typically have the most current info.
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what is long press?
^ you should read the sticky. A lot of the things you mentioned, are addressed in the sticky.
Also, flash is only on Android 2.2, which we do not have yet.
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Got a Vibrant yesterday to "try out" the android world for the first time. Must say I'm impressed by the phones performance out of the box even with all the bloatware and crap on it. I've been a windows mobile guy for quite some time now, so the people that know both platforms well, know they are two completely different monsters. My two options were the hd2 (since i know the WM world pretty well) or learn a whole new platform with the vibrant.
I like it so far, but also miss some of the things from WM (or rather miss knowing my phone well). I guess i just have to start from zero and get acquainted with it first.
Any suggestions on getting the bare down scoop of the platform and such as far as learning it from the ground up? The sticky explains how to do these things, but I need something more basic...I just wanna become proficient in the android world as I am in the WM world starting from zero.
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Congrats on your new phone. Let us know how your GPS works, since that seems to be a hot issue. you can test using google maps, google navigation and GPS Test downloadable from the Android Market.
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Congrats on your new phone. Let us know how your GPS works, since that seems to be a hot issue. you can test using google maps, google navigation and GPS Test downloadable from the Android Market.
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haha that seems to be a problem with any gps enabled phone nowadays. Happened with the fuze and after months and months of tweaking and tweaking we got a hang of it. I tried the GPS yesterday on my way home from work yesterday and did not get a lock, i went ahead and downloaded gps test today to see if that will unlock it before using the gps software. We shall see! Thanks for the heads up tho!
edit: I guess gps test on android works differently than on WM. On WM it scans through your COM ports and gets a fix for you to then use your gps navigation software.
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what is CM?
I am a programmer by profession. Maybe I could look into the world of android programming too while im at it
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please do!
we could always use more programmers.
achild said:
what is long press?
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Instead of tapping on something you hold your finger down for a few seconds. A menu will pop up giving you options like copy and paste.
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If your phone won't play a video format, try RockPlayer
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I would recommend the market as the first place to go. Just start searching and downloading apps and play with your phone. You'll get accustomed to it very quickly!
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I would recommend the market as the first place to go. Just start searching and downloading apps and pay with your phone. You'll get accustomed to it very quickly!
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Yeah thats what ive been doing. Thats another thing that amazes me about android, soooo many apps, and they are all centralized into one easy, convenient location. In wm you would find a few in the marketplace, and the rest u had to hunt down either on the forum or the web. This is slowly growing on me
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Coming from WM myself, (and just recently and very reticently turned over my beloved Wizard to my mom) the fun and unfun I have with Android:
Apps are so dratted cheap. Have at it.
Cloud connectivity. I use Picasa all the time now. It took me a while to get used to Google contacts, especially first name alphabetization, but I like it now.
You might want to look at subscribing to CompanionLink. It reliably syncs everything Outlook with your Google account (thus your phone).
Almost nothing was built into Android 1.0. Not much was added through 1.5. Some stuff has been added since, like Facebook sync, but custom ROMs don't add stuff. There's an app for everything. There has to be.
The app drawer is a hassle. I use FolderOrganizer (and ADW Launcher) to quell my addiction to organization beyond alphabetical.
It's fun to watch a few things catch up with WinMo and hear all the Android users brag about how great it is. Like app-specific auto-rotation. There's an app for it out now, but it actually costs something you'll think about, and it eats a hunk of RAM. They're just getting into animated GIFs. Lists and their apps aren't anywhere near ListPro, but they almost all have some way to sync to the cloud.
Office documents created on a PC don't always work with the Office apps that are out there. Don't bother with DocumentsToGo, but Sheadspreet is good (you have to convert first) and I'm trying OfficeSuite, and it seems the best. 30-day trial, $15. It's still not WinMo, though.
For those things you don't sync with the cloud, you can't just throw stuff in your My Documents Folder and rely on that backup. DropBox is a good app/service, and GoogleDocs is your friend. Most apps back up thier specific data to your SD, but on this phone, it's on the internal SD. You have to manually handle your backups, or do Nandroid backups (another worthwhile Google).
You have to install an app to install apps not from Market. Instead of exes their apks.
There's no Total Commander. I like Root Explorer. Astro is feature-filled. There are a million file explorers, and every one of them will have its advocates.
Flashing ROMs is tons easier, but you have to root first.
The Android world moves a lot faster. If you're off the forums for a week you'll feel like you've been in a coma for months. On the flip side, if you're waiting for something to get developed, waiting a few days feel like eternity.
Android devs work harder for a lot less, or no money; it's truly inspiring.
Before you go buying the first app that does what you want, check Market for more that do the same thing. I've found that there's a free alternative to almost everything. The paid versions/apps are more luxurious in one way or another, usually, but a little research can save you a bunch of regret.
Widgets suck RAM. Before you know it you've got 25 and you're wondering why your Home screen is lagging. Phones are finite. Even these.
CM is CyanogenMod. Google it, it's worth it. They started on XDA and it got out of control, so they have their own site now, although the threads still hanging on XDA re CM are a much more interesting read. It seems to be the most popular set of ROMS for a variety of devices. I follow and flash them (the ROMs, that is. I dont want the devs to hate me).
Double entendres are rampant. It's Google.
Once you get your apps organized, you'll be surprised at how smoothly your phone useage goes. Frankly, it's just more fun, and much cheaper, to play with.
SamsungGalaxySVibrant said:
Congrats on your new phone. Let us know how your GPS works, since that seems to be a hot issue. you can test using google maps, google navigation and GPS Test downloadable from the Android Market.
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Tested it. Google maps got no lock. However, gps test gave me 3 satellites, when I held it in front, under the windshiels it jumped to five satellites, but it wasn't enough for google maps to lock or get my location.
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Being that this dev community is the absolute best, I have to bring this to light.
Google Movie Support has just informed me that Google Movies will not work for rooted XOOMs. This just won't fly.
Is there anyone out there working on a fix or workaround for this?
I'd love root. I love movies. We shouldn't have to choose between the two.
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Being that this dev community is the absolute best, I have to bring this to light.
Google Movie Support has just informed me that Google Movies will not work for rooted XOOMs. This just won't fly.
Is there anyone out there working on a fix or workaround for this?
I'd love root. I love movies. We shouldn't have to choose between the two.
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I feel ya bro, and I'm pretty sure the devs are already looking into it. Since it is a DRM authorization issue, it is probably going to be a pretty good hack to get around it.
I'm confused by 2 things on this topic:
1) why does it matter if its rooted or not?
I would assume the answers is because root would allow us some magical privledge of copying a cache and possibly extracting video and then redistributing.
2) how the frig can it tell?
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that is why i cannot watch green hornet. i rented it to see how it would look on the xoom and it will not play
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2) how the frig can it tell?
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My guess is either one of: (1) checking for the ro.secure property being set, or (2) doing something "rootable", like being able to read a certain file/directory, etc.
If in the former case, I don't have an idea of what to do that wouldn't require the HC source, but in the case of the latter, it'd be relatively easy to ... wait- don't let me help El Goog out. It's not rocket science (think rootkit, but in reverse).
Well instead of listening I tried it as well with The Green Hornet and couldn't download it. Kept getting error but these developers will come up with the answers they have been nothing short of amazing when it comes to the Moto Xoom
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My guess is either one of: (1) checking for the ro.secure property being set, or (2) doing something "rootable", like being able to read a certain file/directory, etc.
If in the former case, I don't have an idea of what to do that wouldn't require the HC source, but in the case of the latter, it'd be relatively easy to ... wait- don't let me help El Goog out. It's not rocket science (think rootkit, but in reverse).
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Assuming scenario 2, wouldn't Super User prompt for permissions? I would think its likely.
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This is the same with the blockbuster app on the Atrix. I can set SU to block requests from the app, but as long as I'm running rooted, it refuses to play (and tells you when you launch the app).
I don't understand the difference between this and running Itunes or Netflix on a "rooted" (admin capable) PC. Why is the phone different?
This is not development. Moved to general.
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This is not development. Moved to general.
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Your forum, you run it your way, just a question.
With all due respect, couldn't OP remain if modified to [REQUEST] since it's a dev request? General is so filled with crap I think this may get lost. :/
bishop72 said:
that is why i cannot watch green hornet. i rented it to see how it would look on the xoom and it will not play
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So did you still get charged for it? The wifi version won't even get the movies for awhile. I don't know why Google doesn't have it ready for both.
It isn't very surprising to hear. None of the major studios will allow media to be downloaded without some form of restrictive DRM and root access probably violates their policies.
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So did you still get charged for it? The wifi version won't even get the movies for awhile. I don't know why Google doesn't have it ready for both.
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? I saw the movie link in Web version of Market.
Yeah, you can order/get charged for it but it won't work. Need to contact customer service to get a refund. They told me they'll consider putting in a warning in the future before you buy it.
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Yeah, you can order/get charged for it but it won't work. Need to contact customer service to get a refund. They told me they'll consider putting in a warning in the future before you buy it.
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Would make more sense for it to check if you're rooted before the transaction goes through.
Nice Google, what a great way to pit the development community against you, even though Android would be nothing without us. Sellout.
Strange, I have unlocked and rooted Nexus One and could play any Netflix video in official Netflix app, so DRM works on rooted system. So may be it's problem with something else?
If you order thru your web browser by going to the web based android market and play it thru your web browser it works.
Thanks for the tip on the browser market thing it works
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Nice Google, what a great way to pit the development community against you, even though Android would be nothing without us. Sellout.
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Lol you're an idiot. It isn't googles fault they had to do this. If you were selling movies and wanted to make some money, would you want them to be distributed for free without your permission? I think not...
Mine came in today, Im debating on returning it before even opening. I started doing research and it seems the Android for tablets is still not up to par with the competition. I was an early adopter for Android (had the G1) but im have second thoughts about being the guinea pig for the tablets.
Anyone have the same feeling and decided to keep it? I may just try it out and return it but I need to see what Amazon return policy (restocking fee, etc)
I'm loving mine. I rarely use my laptop now. Overall its stable, occasioanlly the stock launcher and browser will fc but not enough to be an issue.
Now "the competition" may have more apps specifically for tablets, more are showing up for honeycomb.
Give us some idea of what you plan on using it for/ what you plan to get out of it and might be able to directly respond to your concerns.
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Why don't you just open it and find out.
As if there weren't enough useless threads like this already. This is the equivalent of posting 'ive just woken up' type messages on facebook. Totally pointless. Just return it if you dont want it. You dont need to tell the whole world.
bah double post..clicked submit twice =/
Ive been waiting on a good Android tablet to come out for awhile now. I almost jumped on the Nook Color because of the IPS screen, but I wanted a bigger screen.
I plan on using it for
1.) Browsing the web
2.) Watching Youtube videos
3.) Watching Netflix
4.) Hooking up to HDTV to watch MKV and XVID files
5.) Playing the occasional game
6.) Reading Comics
Now, #3 has me concerned because Ive read that Netflix doesn't work on Honeycomb. Has this been hacked yet? #4 has me concerned because of codec support and the fact this tablet may not be powerful enough for certain files formats. Anyone have experience with this? I have a MacBook Pro that I use maybe once a month, if that, mainly because I use my desktop most of the time.
Return it and stop crying into your milk.
I love mine and have also used Android since the G1. Considering how far Android has come since then, I have all the more confidence that Honeycomb will be much improved over the coming months.
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you havent opened it...?
not trying to come off as a ****, but maybe you need to open the thing and be your own judge. You decided to use your own credit card, pick your own vendor, now open it, play with it, and then decide.
Its only a tablet.. Not a baby. No remorse if you give it back.
I think a lot of these threads are popping up from posters who are looking for someone to make up their mind about this unit, when it should be themselves who choose..
my 2 cents.
Any experience with Asus and updates? Will the Transformer get Ice Cream Sandwich? I guess only time will tell...
If you use it you'll love it. But yes, pretty useless post, do you really need a bunch of anonymous folks telling you what to do?
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androidmonkey said:
Ive been waiting on a good Android tablet to come out for awhile now. I almost jumped on the Nook Color because of the IPS screen, but I wanted a bigger screen.
I plan on using it for
1.) Browsing the web
2.) Watching Youtube videos
3.) Watching Netflix
4.) Hooking up to HDTV to watch MKV and XVID files
5.) Playing the occasional game
6.) Reading Comics
Now, #3 has me concerned because Ive read that Netflix doesn't work on Honeycomb. Has this been hacked yet? #4 has me concerned because of codec support and the fact this tablet may not be powerful enough for certain files formats. Anyone have experience with this? I have a MacBook Pro that I use maybe once a month, if that, mainly because I use my desktop most of the time.
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1) Has been bad for me on 3.1. There is no single browser in my experience, which supports flash and doesn't lag.
2) Excellent for me in the app
3) Doesn't work. Being skeptical, I want to think nothing might work out soon.
4) mkv's are not supported properly, as per the Xoom's video playback thread. As suggested in other threads, Tegra 2 is not a platform you want to have, for video playback.
5) Games are very good on this thing.
6) I read a couple of books. The experience is very good.
BTW, not to be disrespectful, its ridiculous to have a gadget just beside you, and contemplate returning it, based on someone else's subjective experience, without you trying it.
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BTW, not to be disrespectful, its ridiculous to have a gadget just beside you, and contemplate returning it, based on someone else's subjective experience, without you trying it.
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Thanks for the post. I sort of jumped on ordering this without fully researching what it was capable of doing. I figure if my Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant can play back the video files I have, why not a "more powerful" tablet. If Netflix and HDMI output of HD doesnt work or is poor, then thats a show stopper for me. Tablets are media consumption devices.
Why did I order it? Because I was tempted at the time and they are hard to come buy so I ordered it. This was before 3.1, which I thought would fix a lot of these issues.
unreal.send it back and get a ipad
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unreal.send it back and get a ipad
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no mater which forum, or which device, this seems to be the mantra of peope who are fans of a certain os or device...
dont like it, go get a *****
plenty of that on ipad forums too. I don't see the issue with asking opinions or experiences.. and there are a ton fpeople like me who coulldn't care less who makes something, we just want that something
to fit our needs.
return it and leave this place..
this is the most ridiculous thread i've ever seen
Whats so unreal or ridiculous about verifying if certain things work or don't work on the Transformer?
WTF havent even open up the box and asking if you should return give us a freaking break.........Just return it!!!!!!
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Whats so unreal or ridiculous about verifying if certain things work or don't work on the Transformer?
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cause you havent even open up the freaking box and then asking if you should return it, thats why its so unreal......whats the point of purchasing it and not even trying it out..and then havent the balls to post this stupid thread asking if you should return.....hey next time LIE and say you open up and try it and youre not happy.......
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cause you havent even open it and to give it a return....thats why its so unreal......whats the point of purchasing it and not even trying it out..and then havent the balls to post this stupid thread asking if you should return.....hey next time LIE and say you open up and try it and youre not happy.......
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Dude, the point of this thread is to get questions answered. Id rather not go through the hassle of an opened return if certain things dont work. Why open it when I can ask others who have it already if these things work or dont work...
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Dude, the point of this thread is to get questions answered. Id rather not go through the hassle of an opened return if certain things dont work. Why open it when I can ask others who have it already if these things work or dont work...
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Then what you shouldve done was do some research before purchasing it..... Dude Go back and return it and get yourself a ipad2......
people today i rented an movie on the new market and guess what? i got an error 49 that says: this content if not available on rooted devices. this is unbelievable after they take our money they come with this crap like if they were in they getting they feelings. i'm piss off man this is an outrage people.
edit: like if they were getting theirs feelings hurt.
You realize you can edit the actual post?
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people today i rented an movie on the new market and guess what? i got an error 49 that says: this content if not available on rooted devices. this is unbelievable after they take our money they come with this crap like if they were in they getting they feelings. i'm piss off man this is an outrage people.
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Well, you can contact them and get a refund. And I don't think you'll make the same mistake twice.
But I can pretty much 99% guarantee in order to get deals to allow renting of movies on the Market, Google had to tell the studios that they wouldn't allow playback on rooted devices. Google is fine with rooted devices, they clearly allow many rooted apps (even apps that root your phone) on the Market. Its the studios that think there's piracy problem and want no playback on rooted phones, even though that's absolutely retarded, but that's how they feel (look at netflix, they were going to require hardware chips for DRM in android phones to get netflix playback at first).
Cool your jets. It'll be a small matter of time before we have the market cracked open and this root check removed so we can use it. If you're rooted you should have no problem waiting for this, you should understand it. The root community won't rage on this, they'll just fix it for themselves as they always do.
Well think of it this way. Either only nonrooted devices get to rent movies, or no android phones get to rent movies. It's not google, but the studios demanding protection from rooted devices copying their films.
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The content providers are thinking ENTIRELY too hard about this. Ok, so they could have took his money and he could have somehow pirated it off the phone. First off, there are millions of copies of whatever said media floating around anyways. Second of all, by them NOT letting him get it, he is probably just gonna go pirate it. F-in idiots! They should just take everyone's money and be thankful anyone even WANTS to actually pay for it. On a sidenote, it's been highly publicized that rooted phones were not gonna be aloud to access this new paid content on the market. Unfortunately looks like you missed all those articles lol. And i'm pretty sure i remember reading that it will take your money and then tell you that you can't have it.
WHAT! YOU MEAN TO TELL ME I CAN'T WATCH MOVIES FROM THE NEW GOOGLE MARKET FROM MY ROOTED PHONE!?!?!
WHEN DID THIS COME ABOUT?!?!?
(all caps rage is for effect)
Edit: just kidding with the post, but really I think it total BS that it wont work on rooted devises. This will pretty much exclude every android user from XDA. I mean, do you know any XDA member that's not rooted?
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Its been like that since way before the new market ever came out!
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You realize you can edit the actual post?
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yes but the edit button did was not able wen i post again that's why i did another post.
lawalty said:
WHAT! YOU MEAN TO TELL ME I CAN'T WATCH MOVIES FROM THE NEW GOOGLE MARKET FROM MY ROOTED PHONE!?!?!
WHEN DID THIS COME ABOUT?!?!?
(all caps rage is for effect)
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ok i check on my library on the market and i can see the movie on my laptop so at least i'm happy for that. now i could even do other things with it lol.
lolocabra said:
yes but the edit button did was not able wen i post again that's why i did another post.
ok i check on my library on the market and i can see the movie on my laptop so at least i'm happy for that. now i could even do other things with it lol.
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LMFAO that's hilarious! I have a feeling this no-rooted crap is not gonna last long. You can stream it to your laptop which has a thousand and one tools to rip that **** straight to piratebay, but you cant watch it on a rooted phone with its limited aspect ratio, quality, and somewhat harder process of ripping. What dumb asses seriously.
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LMFAO that's hilarious! I have a feeling this no-rooted crap is not gonna last long. You can stream it to your laptop which has a thousand and one tools to rip that **** straight to piratebay, but you cant watch it on a rooted phone with its limited aspect ratio, quality, and somewhat harder process of ripping. What dumb asses seriously.
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I could press this here button and rent your movie, hollywood... oh, I. can't ? you won't allow... it ?
piratebay ... success ! faster, cheaper, and better quality. ha HAAAAAA !
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I could press this here button and rent your movie, hollywood... oh, I. can't ? you won't allow... it ?
piratebay ... success ! faster, cheaper, and better quality. ha HAAAAAA !
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Ya really. It drives me nuts that they think they are still in a position to be making such demands. If I were the ceo of one of those company, I would be doing everything humanly possible to make it as EASY as possible to obtain their stuff legit. Instead they still want to candy coat it in drm and put restrictions all over the place. Its not like ten years ago where your average person really only knew how to get music. In this day and age even grandma moses knows how to download a movie. And with xbox, ps3 etc., you don't even have to go through the trouble of converting and burning it anymore! I mean seriously. The movie industry is its own worst enemy. The music industry imo has gotten slightly better, but the movie industry is its own worst enemy. At least with music they allow things like pandora, and now spotify. It really has curtailed a lot of my piracy. But the movie industry is still trying to run with this old model that's just not working. 10 dollars a TICKET? Twenty to buy it? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I LOVE how the price of everything in the world has went up, but the average wage has not went up barely at all. Don't get me started! In america music and movies are creature comforts, and they gotta realize were gonna get them one way or the other. Do u want to sell one movie for 20 dollars to one out of five people? Or sell a movie for 10 dollars to 4 out of 5.
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Its pretty clear whats going on here. And anyone on XDA understands that there is 100000% more piracy on computers where they offer this also than there are on phones.
But the studios don't care. They know piracy happens on computers and they're fighting that battle. They know that they can demand Google remove functionality from rooted devices, so they do. They can't stop it on computers, but they can (in their minds) stop it on Android phones.
You guys are expecting the studios to act rationally on this, since when do you expect them to do that? Like I said before 1) Did you really expect the studios to not block this? and 2) The community will crack this in no time, cool your jets.
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Its pretty clear whats going on here. And anyone on XDA understands that there is 100000% more piracy on computers where they offer this also than there are on phones.
But the studios don't care. They know piracy happens on computers and they're fighting that battle. They know that they can demand Google remove functionality from rooted devices, so they do. They can't stop it on computers, but they can (in their minds) stop it on Android phones.
You guys are expecting the studios to act rationally on this, since when do you expect them to do that? Like I said before 1) Did you really expect the studios to not block this? and 2) The community will crack this in no time, cool your jets.
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I apologize to the Mistress in advance for being slightly off topic, but Hulu has gotten just as bad. More and more studios are pulling their day after air streaming and making it exclusive to Hulu+. What they don't understand is after I missed a show I would much rather give them ad revenue by watching on Hulu than by torrenting something. Yet they take that away? Greedy idiots.
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You people realize that there has to be something on a phone WITH root compared to a phone withOUT root in order for them to DETECT IT, don't you? What do you suppose that thing is? Probably a command somewhere in the PATH called "su". Want them to not detect that you have root? "mv /path/to/su /path/to/fuisuANYWAY"
will that affect any of the functions of the root?
I don't understand why you're so surprised. This was said would happen when they announced Google Movies in May. Read up.
Why anyone would pay to rent a movie on they're smartphone is beyond me.
Torrent or xdcc that **** and put it on yur sdcard.....voila
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As posted, the devs will get around this. I don't have any devs skills but I'm thinking some type terminal app. Something that retains su permissions to take advantage of the currentwork around.
su
mount -o remount, rw /system
mv /system/xbin/su /system/xbin/mu
Hit home than watch your movie or other paid stuff is done, than reload the same terminal session, which still has su permissions
mv /system/xbin/mu /system/xbin/su
Either the videos or youtube app looks for the su binary. Simply renaming or removing it will yield results.
Perhaps the devs will modify the apps to not check. I only found one instance of su in the videos apk, but I really have no idea what I'm doing , just tinkering and exploring. About to check the youtube apk.
Well that works for me for now...just annoying as ****
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Truth be told anything that is rent-able in the Android Market is already available on torrents anyway! So to put that restriction on rooted phones is almost laughable, considering anyone who went through the process of rooting is almost assuredly a wiz at torrents!
After the aggravation of no flash support, multiple screen freezes, and the sometime slow buggy screen response. The screen is great for viewing though! I decided to just send it back. To be completely truthful I would not have bought it, when not supporting flash!! Reminds too much of Apple!! I hate when companies force me into, or in this case out of something I want just because they feel like it!! If they think it's a security risk, make it a user option! When you buy a router, do they force you to use encryption? No!! It's my tablet & I should be able to watch flash videos if I want!!
And before anyone starts saying, you can get around it by using firefox or dolphin browsers, you can't! At least not completely, they are buggy!
Just want to see if any others, traded it in so to speak!!
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After the aggravation of no flash support, multiple screen freezes, and the sometime slow buggy screen response. The screen is great for viewing though! I decided to just send it back. To be completely truthful I would not have bought it, when not supporting flash!! Reminds too much of Apple!! I hate when companies force me into, or in this case out of something I want just because they feel like it!! If they think it's a security risk, make it a user option! When you buy a router, do they force you to use encryption? No!! It's my tablet & I should be able to watch flash videos if I want!!
And before anyone starts saying, you can get around it by using firefox or dolphin browsers, you can't! At least not completely, they are buggy!
Just want to see if any others, traded it in so to speak!!
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Same boat as you, i had it for a while then gave it back. I ended up sticking with my infinity.
Mmm... Flash is no longer supported mate all across the tablet/mobile world. Besides if your not willing to side load the flash apk then I suggest you go buy a laptop. Flash is buggy anyways but for me flash is nice on my N10. I Can watch my Hulu through the browser. If you want flash you got to do a little work to get it working. Just like any android tablet nowadays. The issues you stated can you be a bit more specific? I haven't had any problems on performance on this thing. Browsing is very quick. Just opening apps and loading my gmail is very fast compared to the Infinity I had. Even using ttorrent, I can actually download a 3gig HD movie without sacrificing performance. No laggyness at all compared to other previous tablets I've owned.
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Question for OP, did you pay a restocking fee? When I swapped my 16gigger with 32 it was like a 15% fee!
Back on topic though, I guess I just was one of those users that got a bad tf700 and had a terrible experience. My N10 has been running superbly. The only reason I doubt my assumption is b/c I went through 3 tf201's before finally giving up and waiting on the tf700.
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Flash works fine on the Nexus 10 and it is Adobe who dropped Flash, not so much Google. Adobe said they were dropping all mobile flash support.
Guess I was one of the lucky ones because my Nexus 10 is perfect. Better than the Xoom I had, the Transformer tf101 I bought my wife and the Galaxy Tab 10.1's I got my parents.
No issues at all....and working flash
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Flash works fine on the Nexus 10 and it is Adobe who dropped Flash, not so much Google. Adobe said they were dropping all mobile flash support.
Guess I was one of the lucky ones because my Nexus 10 is perfect. Better than the Xoom I had, the Transformer tf101 I bought my wife and the Galaxy Tab 10.1's I got my parents.
No issues at all....and working flash
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Same here...won't give that sweet price of harware back!
The only thing bugging me is the auto brightness that always goes up and down too agresively...i disable that and I'm in love...
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I really don't understand how Flash Player is so important enough to justify a device purchase decision, especially since it's becoming obsolete... Might just be my browsing habits, but there are 2 sites total that I use that would be "somewhat" pointless without flash player. Just 2. And those 2 sites I could care less about on a tablet (one of the sites is YouTube; which has a standalone app on Android lol)
So in a few months when either all Android tablets are updated and no longer support flash, or your tablet that does, is completely outdated, you are just going to NOT own a tablet ..
At least that is what I get from your "reasons".
Honestly you don't have to justify returning the tablet, if you can't take change I suggest you move to the north pole or something where pretty much nothing changes.
These posts about "Why I don't like the N10" or "Why I am too lazy to sideload flash" or " X tablet is Better than Y tablet" are REALLY REALLY getting old ..
I am in these forums because I own said device, not because I want to talk about how I returned it, or how much I hate it ..
Should be a rule if you don't own the device and are not a developer, leave said forum.
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It looks as though you don't have any clue what you are talking about. The nexus 10 definitely supports flash. You don't need anything but the flash.apk to use it on any browser. It is the users choice to use it or not. And please do a little research next time before you try and slander or put down a company (Google) for something that they have nothing to do with. It's Adobe that doesn't support flash on the mobile platform. Not Google. All you would've needed to do is take 11 seconds to sideload one app and you have flash. Either way. If you don't have this tablet, what does your opinion of it matter here in the Nexus 10 forums? It doesn't. Move along to the next device,complain about that one, and waste more space in another forum with your opinions.
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It looks as though you don't have any clue what you are talking about. The nexus 10 definitely supports flash. You don't need anything but the flash.apk to use it on any browser. It is the users choice to use it or not. And please do a little research next time before you try and slander or put down a company (Google) for something that they have nothing to do with. It's Adobe that doesn't support flash on the mobile platform. Not Google. All you would've needed to do is take 11 seconds to sideload one app and you have flash. Either way. If you don't have this tablet, what does your opinion of it matter here in the Nexus 10 forums? It doesn't. Move along to the next device,complain about that one, and waste more space in another forum with your opinions.
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I agree with you 100% and I wish happy owners like me, who are the vast majority, could hide threads like this to make it easier to focus on threads of interest.
While many of us xda users are capable enough to search and find solutions to Chrome's lack of flash, there is an app I used to keep handy when I encountered a site w/ flash. Its called Flashify : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nightshadelabs.anotherbrowser
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Anyone who wants flash please see this post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34872127&postcount=6
I'm using Ocean browser and this apk worked fine for me.
Just use puffin browser whenever you need flash. It loads the content on remote servers then sends it back to you. It can even emulate a touch pad or a game controller for flash gaming.
It works on iOS too if you care about that.
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I had an Infinity for two months before I got the N10. Each person's experience is different but my Infinity experience was laggy and frustrating. I found myself rebooting frequently trying to make it speedy. I disabled most of the Asus stuff, it just didn't "feel" like a great experience. I will say Asus is on top of updates and the bloatware is minimal by comparison to other non-Nexus tablets, of course.
The N10, for me, is just smooth. Living with the N10 is just better for me.
No one had an answer last time I asked, does anyone know now if there is a fix for flash/browser yet, so when I hit full screen it doesn't crash the browser? I tried all of them, they all do it
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It looks as though you don't have any clue what you are talking about. The nexus 10 definitely supports flash. You don't need anything but the flash.apk to use it on any browser. It is the users choice to use it or not. And please do a little research next time before you try and slander or put down a company (Google) for something that they have nothing to do with. It's Adobe that doesn't support flash on the mobile platform. Not Google. All you would've needed to do is take 11 seconds to sideload one app and you have flash. Either way. If you don't have this tablet, what does your opinion of it matter here in the Nexus 10 forums? It doesn't. Move along to the next device,complain about that one, and waste more space in another forum with your opinions.
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Developer huh?? Like I said flash is buggy on the nexus 10! I did side load the apk flash pack & it only works partially!! Go to any site that uses flowplayer to show flash, hit the full screen button & the 10's screen goes black & does a partial lock up!! The only way you can move off that screen now is hit the home button!! And its not the flowplayer program, because it works fine on my PC!! It will do the same thing on your 10 too, most likely!! Take your personal assumption & attack where it belongs, off a cliff!! My point was I don't like Google, Android, Adobe, or developers taking things away just because they feel like it!! Remember the software companies work for the public, not the other way around!!
If I knew flash would not work properly, as i stated before. I would not have bought it to begin with!! I believed the developers that there is a workaround, there's not!! At least not one that works 100%.
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Developer huh?? Like I said flash is buggy on the nexus 10! I did side load the apk flash pack & it only works partially!! Go to any site that uses flowplayer to show flash, hit the full screen button & the 10's screen goes black & does a partial lock up!! The only way you can move off that screen now is hit the home button!! And its not the flowplayer program, because it works fine on my PC!! It will do the same thing on your 10 too, most likely!! Take your personal assumption & attack where it belongs, off a cliff!! My point was I don't like Google, Android, Adobe, or developers taking things away just because they feel like it!! Remember the software companies work for the public, not the other way around!!
If I knew flash would not work properly, as i stated before. I would not have bought it to begin with!! I believed the developers that there is a workaround, there's not!! At least not one that works 100%.
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Stay calm lol your the one that came here, posted a new topic, and assumed that things are what they are from your brief experience trying to get flash to work. Task650 knows what he is saying and we are all just trying to help you and correct you because what you think is not true. Yes there is a way to get flash working 100%
Here is a link to get flash working 100% you will need to unlock and root your device if you want it to work 100% Yes I'm sure that site you spend time on should work as well. It worked for me and I was able to watch Hulu. I would test it out for you but I just unrooted to exchange my N10.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1997720
But I guess you don't need it now since you've returned your N10. Its unfortunate because its a great tablet.
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Question for OP, did you pay a restocking fee? When I swapped my 16gigger with 32 it was like a 15% fee!
Back on topic though, I guess I just was one of those users that got a bad tf700 and had a terrible experience. My N10 has been running superbly. The only reason I doubt my assumption is b/c I went through 3 tf201's before finally giving up and waiting on the tf700.
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I believe I will be charged the 15% restocking fee, credit not issued yet. Apple customer service is way better in that regard. I think in the future, I will wait to see the device in a retail store first, save time & trouble on both ends!
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Developer huh?? Like I said flash is buggy on the nexus 10! I did side load the apk flash pack & it only works partially!! Go to any site that uses flowplayer to show flash, hit the full screen button & the 10's screen goes black & does a partial lock up!! The only way you can move off that screen now is hit the home button!! And its not the flowplayer program, because it works fine on my PC!! It will do the same thing on your 10 too, most likely!! Take your personal assumption & attack where it belongs, off a cliff!! My point was I don't like Google, Android, Adobe, or developers taking things away just because they feel like it!! Remember the software companies work for the public, not the other way around!!
If I knew flash would not work properly, as i stated before. I would not have bought it to begin with!! I believed the developers that there is a workaround, there's not!! At least not one that works 100%.
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So then... what mobile platform are you going to buy in a year or two? Plus, it's the mobile Flash player that's causing the problems. That's purely Adobe's fault for dropping it.
I can tell that your "multiple screen freezes, and the sometime slow buggy screen response" are from fullscreening Flowplayer and being unable to get out. You make it sound like a generalization throughout the whole device.
Anyway, were you talking about this?
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Yes sideloading will not give you 100% especially if your running stock and not rooted.
Here is a link to get flash working 100% you will need to unlock and root your device if you want it to work 100% Yes I'm sure that site you spend time on should work as well. It worked for me and I was able to watch Hulu. I would test it out for you but I just unrooted to exchange my N10.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1997720
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Thanks for the helpful response, unlike some other members that tell me I can't believe my own eyes!! Mine is heading back already but this may help others with the same problem!! Personally, I like flash & wish it would stick around. I take offense when others tell me what I can & can't have, especially when I'm paying them & they're not paying me!!